THIS is the type of review I look for when it comes to KZread presenters. Thanks so much for being technical, but understandable, to the point, and professional with your analysis.

@columbiariversalmonenhance4050

Жыл бұрын

To sum up your preference... it's the difference between learning from the Engineers... or from the Sales people... I share your preference for the Engineering perspective. There is a special place in hell for the sales people.

I saw and learned many technical aspects of picture quality and settings. Thanks a lot for this excellent video showcasing two iconic HDTV models' strengths and weaknesses! Very helpful in choosing the right model for my needs.

The style of these videos are so straight to the point, and tech reviews need way more of this. Just got into your channel while researching which tv to buy, and they have been more helpful than any tech review videos I've used for researching basically any other kind of product. Excellent stuff and Happy Holidays to you !

Loved this comparison and the channel in general. Bought the QN90a just now because our room has skylights so we get direct sunlight and an OLED couldn’t survive in that. Your videos made me incredibly well informed about my purchasing decision, so thank you.

@tywanjames4427

2 жыл бұрын

So how is it after all this time? Feel you made the right decesion?

@romanbennifir6020

Жыл бұрын

Hey get qd oled then

@Muhayyo666

Жыл бұрын

@@romanbennifir6020 still has higher chances of burn in , I watch a lot of football and gaming .

Short answer - If you watch tv in a bright environment, get the Samsung. If it's a dark room, get the LG.

@nerdstrangler4804

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, If you watch tv in a bright room you should probably just buy some curtains with your OLED.

@1Dustin

2 жыл бұрын

@@nerdstrangler4804 That's not really the point. There are many situations where you can't just blacken the room. Like having kids or a family.

@MrChocobit

2 жыл бұрын

you both are right.

@ihavenoname3925

2 жыл бұрын

@@1Dustin u can't blacken the room becoz u have a family?.. what a stupid argument

@ZambonieDude

2 жыл бұрын

@@ihavenoname3925 You can’t darken a room when your wife wants sunlight or you want to watch your kids while they’re playing outside, etc It’s situational bud.

Thank you for a most exceptional side-by-side comparison.

The review we deserve, without the Money we Need right now

Haven't seen a better and more detailed comparison. Thank you

There's just something about self emissive technology like OLED that's simply tough to beat right now. It's not without its flaws, but that pixel level precision works wonders for both SDR and HDR.

@OroborOSX11

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. I can’t understand LED apologists EXCEPT when talking strictly about peek brightness for HDR. OLED is just frankly a superior panel tech IMO, and it annoys me that Samsung has so stubbornly refused to adopt the tech. It’s why I’m an LG man… Now, MicroLED on the other hand appears to be the Holy Grail, and Samsung appears to be the first to market with it, so maybe the next generation will be different?

@joKerchy

3 жыл бұрын

@@OroborOSX11 because they are blind fanboys. Qled is at the same price or even more expensive than lg oleds... I can’t get it they are paying more for an inferior tech that looks absolutely awful in game mode..

@james.telfer

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, still very happy with my C8, chosen on the basis of Vincent's videos. 👍

@nejihiashi

3 жыл бұрын

@@OroborOSX11 i used both TVS lg c1 and qn90a, i ended up selling lg OLED while the OLED have better blacks it does suffer from lower brightness and it seemed so dim to me, while the QLED have insane brightness that makes colors really pop, and no risk of burn in so QLED is the better TV for me everyone have different preferences.

@tracer073

3 жыл бұрын

@@nejihiashi I bought the Sony A80j and I can’t get over how dark and dim it is, I should have gotten the Samsung qn90a.

The comparation we were waiting for 👏😊

Nice analysis. This was the best overview I’ve seen. I really like that you take your approach with some established tests

This was great! I felt like I was in a lecture lol.

I love technology but don't purchase TVs often. Looking at reviews for these flagship TVs is a breath of fresh air compared to other types of consumer tech. Love how technical this review was and I know exactly which TV I need (my room is bright) without even having to go to the store.

Nice comparison, got a C1 77" and a Samsung Q90T 65", the C1 looks almost 3d due to the picture's depth it's a fantastic set. That said i still find myself going to the Qled for daytime viewing, it's still impressive how it manages to overcome a bright room with ease, the Lg catches all the reflections due to the larger size and glossy panel.

@kmow0909

2 жыл бұрын

Envious of your financial stabilty. But does 1080p TV content e.g sports and soccer look good on 77"

@Braconara1981

2 жыл бұрын

@@kmow0909 haha not rich dude just worked my ass of for a very long time. Processing and upscaling are class leading and so is motion. What really stands out is the clarity, i haven't seen anything like it yet. If you get the chance get one your jaw will drop, some pretty decent deals already around.

@kmow0909

2 жыл бұрын

@@Braconara1981 Glad for your purchase. Hope it doesnt get any burn-ins. In my 8 years experience of using OLED smartphones there were no any defects nor flaws.

@kmow0909

2 жыл бұрын

@@Braconara1981 Also good that you have chosen 77" cos people regret buying 55" immediately. And even 65" owners have remorse but a bit later. You can't upgrade TV so size does really matter.

@altaafsheik5725

Жыл бұрын

I've just bought mine and notice this as well

Just found your channel. What a great in depth comparison. Greatly appreciated.

Very helpful and thorough comparison! Thank you for all the effort 👍

Just a suggestion - It might be worth showing whether the TV is capable of doing Pass-Through of uncompressed LPCM multi-channel audio via eArc. If you are using the 120Hz feature of the latest consoles then it's most likely that you will be going direct from console to the TV 2.1 HDMI port (after all, it's one of the big features of the latest TVs and very few AV amps will allow you to go the other way). So to then discover that the TV is not capable of passing through the uncompressed audio to a soundbar / AV receiver is a bit of a shock. The Samsungs all currently send stereo 2.0 output onwards forcing you select lossy bitstream output options on the consoles in order to set 5.1 or 7.1 output to your speakers. I believe LG and Sony had the same issue but have resolved it. Otherwise great review

@ariv8585

Жыл бұрын

I have the Samsung Q80T, but I’m here to see if it’s worth upgrading and noticed your comment. The Q80T definitely supports eARC at 120Hz with Dolby surround sound over the 2.1 HDMI gaming port. I have the PS5 and have no issues with this

I have one of each of these tvs OLED and a qled..I agree the OLED is better but not buy a large margin. In a bright room the qled is better. They are both great sets

I recently updated my 8 year old, 58 inch Panasonic TX58AX802 LCD/LED IPS tv, which at the time was the flagship of the Panasonic range, - to the 65 inch Panasonic JZ1500 OLED tv. I naturally had reservations about brightness levels in my 18 by 16 feet lounge, with one of the 18 feet walls being all window from above 3 feet. Those reservations provwd to be unfounded. I have no issues with screen luminance, even in direct sunlight. That having been said, the screen is at a 90 degree angle to the window! So, I’ve ended up with a highly impressive 65 inch OLED which cost almost half what I paid for that 58 inch IPS 8 years ago and which is more than adquately bright.

I was searching this type of video. Such a wonderful video where i can see the difference, spot on. Great work

Hey Vincent, would you be able to do a follow up video for the Samsung Q80T/Q90T post firmware update?

@countpythagoras

2 жыл бұрын

Seconded. Even though the 80t is last year it is still in my buying options

When the difference becomes neglible overall, perhaps we should also focus on which design we favor, or which remote and user interface we prefer. Or perhaps you prefer a split unit, since it only has one cable going to the screen.

Exactly the comparison I was looking for. Thanks!

The best video I've seen so far about OLED and QLED. Thank you

Backlight is a dealbreaker for me. It's OLED for me until MicroLED is ready. I hope Samsungs OLED will be good. Competition is always great.

Do you plan on reviewing the TCL C825, Vincent?

Hi Vincent. Thank-you. Reassured now that I purchased the Samsung QN55Q80BA. Great comparison. I appreciate your expertise.

Thank you very much. Great info. I'm waiting for LG C2 next year. Presently I watch TV/movies on my monitor.

I think people go way too easy on Samsung's dynamic tone mapping. It's extremely hard to get a balanced picture (especially in game mode) and impossible to watch anything that is accurate to the creators intent. Is that not a huge deal?

@hideff4982

3 жыл бұрын

It is, at least for kind of purist people, but many people usually don't care about accuracy. They are happy when they got their eyes melted and everything "pops".

@JustOneGuy

3 жыл бұрын

Not true. If you set source as game console you can adjust almost everything and you don't have locked settings. I do that when I connect my PC to play games and it works just fine. Granted, if I use it as PC source then its terrible since settings are locked and the image is poop.

@FruitlessRoaster

3 жыл бұрын

@@JustOneGuy no

@1.N.Decent

3 жыл бұрын

IMO it won't matter if it's in light polluted areas like near windows or bright room.

@fredfinks

3 жыл бұрын

@@FruitlessRoaster Could you elaborate please? What is dynamic tone mapping? Can you turn it off? Im about to buy a TV and thinking of Q90A. I dont care about game modes. My priority is just a good picture watching TV and Movies (also video from PC). On my TVs / Monitors ive always used 'normal' mode. I dont like fancy effects. just want real picture as possible. (within budget - 75" Q90A is my max$) Im worried about lifespan of OLED. Thanks for help

I hope OLEDs will be able to deliver high APL scenes better eventually. That beach scene at 12:10 is quite a big difference. It looks like the sun is not even out that day on C1

@stipeslol

3 жыл бұрын

That's because dynamic tone mapping is defintiley disabled on that oled to pReSeRvE cReAtiVe iNteNt, if he enabled it that scene would come to life. But of course at the expense of "accuracy" which is what sophisticated videophiles like vincent strive for

@FruitlessRoaster

3 жыл бұрын

The exposure of Vincent's camera is adjusted to the brightest TV in the room. Making the dimmer TV look darker than in real world viewing. 800nits is plenty if you're not watching in some completely lit up family room.

@JimAtHome

2 жыл бұрын

It's because his camera has been adjusted to the way brighter screen of the Samsung but if money is no object you could always opt for the new LG OLED EVO the G model which is about 30% brighter when viewing Dolby Vision HDR but costs about £3,299 at the moment

Most complete and professional TV video I've seen. Thank you.

very good review. Direct and to the point. What type of price gap is there between these two technologies?

I thought about this a lot when I bought my OLED. My room is darker, and the movies I really like are also dark. For many families, I think OLED is a poor choice, but for me, it was the right one. My favorite movies are like Alita, IT, Matrix, John Wick, The Protoge, Joker, Pacific Rim, etc... Maybe in time there will be a more perfect TV in the next few years, but choosing the best one for your type of movies and environment is important. Thanks for informative and unbiased comparisons like this!

@johna9292

Жыл бұрын

How is OLED with sports? Olympics Skiing, Nascar?

@robertriho6541

Жыл бұрын

@@johna9292 If your absolutely priorities are perfect black level, uniformity, and viewing angle then OLED is your choice, but for general use is QLED better, it gets much brighter, OLED is just too dark for a bright room, and you will be disappointed.

@yajnalgibno6536

11 ай бұрын

@@robertriho6541 Thanks to your comment bro

@robertriho6541

11 ай бұрын

@@yajnalgibno6536 You are welcome. I have C1 OLED and it's too dark for a bright room, but from recent reviews, the new C3 generation is much brighter, 2 or 3 times more nits, so I'm guessing OLEDs are getting very close to QLEDs, but your wallet will cry.

Thank you for the comparison. Will we see a TCL c825 mini LED review or comparison in the future?

@nikhamblin

2 жыл бұрын

I second this

Very informative but not too much tech talk which can egt boring for most people. Very good, thanks!

Havnt been here for ages...nice vid vince. So nothings really changed with the advantages and disadvantages of both technologies. Youre right of course..its all about what works for you.

Vincent, please try to obtain a Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 for review. I am sure many of us would like to see it compared to the QN95A.

@hideff4982

3 жыл бұрын

@TECH LOVER.LOL

@benwhittle7204

2 жыл бұрын

@TECH LOVER. they LOL'd because you're believing that absolute marketing lie. There's is approximately ZERO chance it has a 1M:1 contrast ratio. Zero chance.

@mvl6800

2 жыл бұрын

@@benwhittle7204 I mean OLED has infinite:1 so 1 million:1 doesn't really seem that far-fetched.

@benwhittle7204

2 жыл бұрын

@@mvl6800 With OLED, yes of course, by nature of OLED technology, LCD? Not a chance and mini-LED is still and LCD with an LED backlight and will never be able to achieve a 1M:1 contrast ratio. When micro LED TVs come around however, then yeah it has a shot at it since it's no longer using an LCD panel.

@benwhittle7204

2 жыл бұрын

@TECH LOVER. you believe a lot of marketing specs......Just because they SAY they do, doesn't make it real. Go look at projectors as well, lots of them claim 1M:1 contrast ratio. Go look at _actual_ measurements of those and LCD monitors, most will be around the 1000:1 ratio.

I first bought an LG C1 since OLED is all the buzz, I ended up returning it due to low brightness and being too reflective. I got the Samsung QN95A and it's much much better in my livingroom environment than the OLED. For now, it would seem the OLED TVs are only suitable for dark-room usage.

@derfskittlers6125

Жыл бұрын

Me too.

@kirannakarmi1149

2 ай бұрын

Only good for caves

Just want to point out a clear flaw in LG’s MCFI algorithm on the LG CX…which I’m also curious, if this affects the 2021 models as well?…..figured I’d point them out, since you pointed out some clear flaws in this video, which I have experienced myself as well. I’m also curious how many other CX owners experience this issue. I’ve seen it all over the forums, so I know it’s not just me. This issue is a near black flicker, which becomes very, very apparent in HDR/DV content, and is immersion breaking, leaving MCFI unusable to me. Even at the lowest values, it’s very noticeable. It’s almost as if the interpolated frames have a different gamma or something. All I can say is this drives me crazy, and I thought a fix would of come via a FW update by now. I knew I should of returned this set, once I discovered how broken DV really was. Still beating myself up over this.

Can't wait for you to dig into the 2022 QD OLEDs. Going to be really interesting.

I’m literally in love with the neo qled, disappointed by the q95t last year. But this new miniled technology sounds great for the best of qled and a good black level and ( most of all) NO REFLECTION!!! So important for me

@matthewjalovick

3 жыл бұрын

Same. I purchased a Q80T last year and then a QN90A this year… the mini led is phenomenal. With my Series X it’s staggeringly beautiful. I do wish it had Dolby Vision but eh :)

@tracer073

3 жыл бұрын

@@matthewjalovick no need for Dolby vision on a tv that bright

@heavyweather4893

2 жыл бұрын

Wait next year for Samsung Q-Oled

@octavazio999

2 жыл бұрын

@@heavyweather4893 I should but I’m scared of the cost of this first gen panel, still curious BTW

@M340B58

2 жыл бұрын

@@tracer073 that's not how HDR and SDR work...

I had this exact dilemma a month ago and ended up getting the QN95A over the C1, as the potential for screen-burn (no matter how small) is a big worry for me. I'd never be able to relax knowing my kids will leave the PS4 paused for 2 hours when I'm away from the room! That anxiety isn't worth the slightly improved black levels etc. They're both awesome TVs.

@serhansazl740

2 жыл бұрын

I'm in the process of buying a TV these days, I agree with you.Regardless, as the name suggests, organic led will make a ghost logo after 2 or 3 years.You can delay this at the most, but the result is inevitable due to its nature.

@dave_s_vids

Жыл бұрын

@No_Name if not looked after, yes. Modern OLEDs have things built in to try and reduce image retention (screen jiggling, brightness reduction etc.), but it's still a risk. LCD isn't immune to it, but you'd have to leave the image there for weeks as opposed to a few hours. It's worth mentioning that permanent burn-in and image retention aren't the same thing. OLEDs suffer from both if abused, but most of the time you'd "only" see image retention that can generally be fixed with a screen "wash" etc. I suspect for most people with normal viewing habits it'll be fine, but if you can't control the usage of the screen it's still a concern for me.

@dave_s_vids

Жыл бұрын

@No_Name washed out colours is something you don't have to worry about with a Samsung! They might even need taming down slightly 😉

@Jza-GZa40k

6 ай бұрын

@@dave_s_vids They now turn off after a few minutes after leaving them on and you can change settings,Also like you said they have better screens now and precautions to stop it even a slight bit,It’s not really a issue anymore on new OLEDs,Even the normal cheaper ones.

@bobspence5322

4 ай бұрын

i disagree non organic led is immune to burn in. yes even if you abuse it. i dont get why everyones so hype about oled. even a full array led should be enough to satisfy the average videophile. i have tons of oled screens including 2 smart phones a laptop and 2 oled tv sets and im about to trash them all cause of dead pixels and burn in. youll get a viewing angle and good picture with a miniled qled. thats what i advise getting and get a larger one.

Great great great video! Very detailed and right to the point over and over again.

Wow. I have a G9 Neo and a LG OLED, I can't believe how lucky I am to find this ultra in-depth comparison. This really helped me to figure out which one I should use for which purpose!

@mrcoolorhot8595

2 жыл бұрын

So which one is better?

@Niberspace

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrcoolorhot8595 Technically the OLED, but I'm literally painting my near-windowless room black (no kidding) in hopes that that will make my C9 bright enough.

@mrcoolorhot8595

2 жыл бұрын

@@Niberspace hehehe nice. But seriously the OLEF is way better than QLED?

I like the idea of calibrated TVs from Crampton & Moore. Nice idea

any news on the eagerly awaited 42inch cut oled panels?

Fantastic and professional review. I have an older Samsung in the living room, absolutely love it, but I will get an LG OLED for the bedroom.

Thank you for you great work reviewing these TV's so thoroughly.

I like watching my qn90a with full brightness at night, my ambilight (hyperbian) complements the viewing experience nicely.

I Just literally sold my 65" B9 and I was deciding between the C1 and the QN90A. After a very difficult decision I went for the OLED technology again thanks to this video. The Tv is coming tomorrow and I can't wait playing Series X on it.

@Brbrnskhgf5666

3 жыл бұрын

U won’t be disappointed

@sobrius25

3 жыл бұрын

B9 is still a magnificent TV. Why switch now?

@HankoBeats

2 жыл бұрын

Reason is simple - I wanted a better picture quality. C1 arrived 6hrs ago. The SD/HD upscaling on my satelite receiver (Vu+ Solo 4K) and KZread is 10x better than on the B9. The colours are more punchier on every source. The motion looks smoother too. Just played Mauer der Toten on the Series X and I can already see more details that I didn't noticed on the B9. B9 now looks dull. The only drawback for me atm are the speakers and no 5.1 DTS in eARC/optical. B9 sounded richer and deeper. Bear in mind I have tested it only for 4hrs. Still loads of testing to do. Edit - Every sound feature on the C1 is off now and it's much better but it's still not that good as B9 DTS now work over the eARC. Had to set the sound output to pass though on the C1

@ashifat5669

2 жыл бұрын

I am sorry for asking but for how much did you sold your B9?

@flamehiro

2 жыл бұрын

And here I still rocking my c6 and x950g combo :)

This video did help me, and saved me money, man I nearly pulled the trigger on the LG OLED. I have a very bright living room, and that LG would've crushed me. Thanks again

Any plans to test those new Xiaomi OLED TVs they announced yesterday?

Ended up going with the QN85A. OLED looks amazing, but we have natural light in our living room and the wife tends to leave the TV on all day with a static image. Neo is near OLED, with is fine by me!

@ghp0518

2 жыл бұрын

In my country Neo QLED is the same price as OLED C1

@MrDahoox

2 жыл бұрын

I had a QLED TV 2018 from Samsung. For a few weeks now, you can see the LEDs shining through individually. The screen is not covered homogeneously. You can see bright spots every few centimeters. It looks like plastic has warped due to the warmth of the very bright LEDs. So the QLED TV lasted until shortly after the warranty. I didn't want to buy a new TV after 3 years. I bought LG OLED. the C1 is as bright at the highest level as the Samsung QLED.

@ghp0518

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrDahoox I also have a Samsung from 2017 and it has developed some dark strips (pi shaped) which look awful on darker scenes, plus light bleeding.. -thinking it's time to replace it / move it to a less used room.

@MrDahoox

2 жыл бұрын

@@BerryNiceToMeetYou The Samsung LED TVs do not have Dolby Vision. LG has it! I have not yet played on the LG OLED TV. But there is an extra gaming mode. The LG cannot be switched off at night. He then performs the pixel cleaning.

@MrDahoox

2 жыл бұрын

@@BerryNiceToMeetYou We turn off the LG OLED TV normally. But we don't turn off the radio-controlled socket.

VINCENT PLEASE COMPARE THE SAMSUNG G9 NEO WITH 2048 ZONES VS THE C1, THANKS!

@sorentappe8745

3 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what I'd like to see. One of them is probably going to be my next pc monitor.

Thnx for the distinctions. Never quite know the difference until now.

clear and to the point, at a great pace. SUBSCRIBED

It'd be really cool to see the Sony A90J or A80J Vs neo Qled. Even just to compare the upscaling and tone mapping.

@cmpmeridian1

3 жыл бұрын

It wonton change the overall that HDR a is better on LEDS

I think both are really good tvs.......If you watch alot of tv in a darker environment and not worried about burn in then go with the C1.....if you have a room with alot of light and tend to watch during the day I would consider the QN90a both are good tvs its not like one is so much better the other looks like crap. And honestly there have been some issues with both tvs unfortunately there is probably a 5% failure rate I dont know exactly what the numbers are but I know people that have had issues with pixels and burn in on oleds. I also know samsung lottery can give you dirty screen effect. I have a decent samsung from 2016 or 17 that is still bright and looks great but is only 65" .... now looking at the 77 c1 or 85 qn90a we do have a lot of light in the room where its at and even a lot of ambient lighting everywhere so its never really DARK in that part of the house even at night. I will say the oleds look fantastic Im just not sure if it would work for our use case.

@mick977

Жыл бұрын

What if you fit into neither category. I watch in the dark, but I am worried about burnin as I watch a lot of sports.

Learned a lot from your channel. Well done!

it seems from the video that the samsung showed more stars in the Gravity scene than the LG. is this something you notice in person? or were some of the stars just dimmer and not able to be captured by the camera?

The image degradation on the nqled in game-mode kills it for me since that's my use case 90% of the time. Thank you for covering that part, I'll wait for LG's 42 inch oled early next year.

@jonathaningram8157

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. I have a CX and was considering switching because of various problem (VRR flicker and horizontal banding among other) but image degradation in game mode here ruins it, might as well go for a random qled tv. I guess I will wait for a next generation of TV but I think I will avoid oled in the future.

@rob0600

2 жыл бұрын

As a nqled owner i can tell you the picture is still insane!!!

@93vincentvalentine

2 жыл бұрын

HEE-HOO!

well done and interesting, thanks

I just bought the LG OLED65B16LA as it was on offer from RS for £1,131.10 and as I can't personally see any difference in picture quality to the C1 that price was perfect for me, the Samsung Neo QLED QN95A was selling for £1,599 with a £300 cash back so £1,299 so still £167.90 less than the Samsung, and I still think the OLED's picture quality is superior to NEO QLED's even if they can go much brighter for me it's the perfect contrast and the total black where OLED wins plus I love Dolby Vision not available on Samsung TV's. Thanks for the review as always in depth with clear explanations.

Great video.. I own a Samsung Q70R and I'm thinking about a possible upgrade and I was wondering if it is time to jump into the OLED world (I use the tv for gaming and movies, but in this year of smart working I had to use the TV as monitor for 8-10 hours a day, so I'm extremely worried of burn-in issues).. talking about OLEDs, LG G1/C1 or Sony XR A90J?

@FranklySpeaking.

2 жыл бұрын

same here... I trade from home so PC displayed on tv more than 12 hours/day. bottom line? NO OLED if using as a PC monitor. its a shame OLED has the burn in problem... I would choose that in a heartbeat over QLED. But burn in makes it an absolute no go.... no interest in having browser bar or stock charts burned into the screen! Will choose the best QLED on the market when the time comes for that reason...tbh either will be an improvement over my 67" sammie DLP (which is just starting to act up 12+ years on... not a bad lifespan!)

Hi Vincent, was wondering what your thoughts are for a 9N95A versus older tech like the z9G or z9d in terms of backlight / blooming control? Wondering if available technology among the non oled options have regressed over time. I'm using a 75z9d and wonder what my upgrade path would look like if it were non oled.

@snowbowman1

2 жыл бұрын

Non-OLED you'd probably want a Samsung Neo QLED (mini-LED).

@kc-st

2 жыл бұрын

@@snowbowman1 I have a 75z9d with backlight master drive. Is neo qled superior to it?

Glad I went with the C1. I was really thinking about going with the QN95A for longevity reasons, but that blooming is still pretty bad. Once MicroLED is mainstream I'll be taking a look at that.

@ultimatewick

2 жыл бұрын

The blooming is never that bad in real life, he even points this out in the video - it's the camera ISO causing it to be much more pronounced. In fact, it's unnoticeable a vast majority of the time.

@busterscrugs

2 жыл бұрын

@@ultimatewick I watch a lot of space movies. It's very noticeable in dark scenes with lots of stars.

@jotapeeee4009

2 жыл бұрын

@@busterscrugs No, on the QN90A It's not

@emin62bek

2 жыл бұрын

@@ultimatewick Linus from LTT said himself that he can't recognize it while TRYING to see it. He had to cover it up with his hands to notice ANYTHING.

@asaneouji15

2 жыл бұрын

@@emin62bek it’s still a big issue and clearly visible in all content , blooming is horrible on every lcd no matter what content you watch no matter how many dimming zones

I cant decide between Samsung QN 95 A 75 Inch and LG G1 65 for the same price, what would you recommend?

What do you use to measure input lag in your reviews? Thanks to anyone who knows!!

I wish I had seen this months ago. I have the QN90A. I'm very happy with it but it seems that the C1 would have been better overall. Thank you regardless. As always great work Vincent!

@reaux1560

3 жыл бұрын

You would have had to deal with the burn-in risk with OLED and low brightness which is painful when the sun shines.

@tracer073

3 жыл бұрын

Did you buy the tv for a living room,? I think you made the right choice. I bought the Sony A80j for my dark bedroom and the picture is so dim and dark it’s not enjoyable to watch, I have to tweak vivid mode, the only mode I enjoy watch anything on. Stick with the qn90a I wish I had bought that instead.

@nejihiashi

3 жыл бұрын

I used both you're better with qn90a, ended up selling lg c1

@joKerchy

3 жыл бұрын

The C1 is better

@justinsugay1149

3 жыл бұрын

@@reaux1560 Thanks for that. I sometimes think I overanalyze perhaps. The QN90A is really great in the living room. I'm thinking of getting a 48in C1 for my office though. Thoughts?

The just scan bug not going off will bug me very much on the Neo tv.

This was a fantastic review! Thank you very much!

It'd be great if you can also do a section of price comparison between the two in the video. :)

As somebody who recently bought an LG CX and has been enjoying it but started to wonder if the QN90A would have been better, I appreciate this comparison. It reaffirmed that I made the correct decision for my situation. I’m able to completely control the light in my living room and prefer to watch movies/play games in darkness anyway. Personally, I also find my OLED more than bright enough in SDR and HDR. Perhaps that’s because I upgraded from an incredibly cheap LED, but regardless the OLED seems perfect for my use case. The brightness of QN90A is impressive, but it’s shortcomings would have absolutely bothered me. Of course in the grand scheme of things, both are superb choices that most people would probably be pleased with.

@lordmaster2562

3 жыл бұрын

I have the C1 65inch its amazing

@brandonlee7382

3 жыл бұрын

Amazing TVs

@troymuni6120

3 жыл бұрын

I just got a new 77" G1 and 7.2.4 surround sound with a Denon 6700 and Elac debut 2 speakers and couldn't be happier. If you're a gamer there's only one option that delivers: LG C and G series OLED's.

@chinogambino9375

3 жыл бұрын

If you play games or a lot of bright content the LG CX will not cut it. It didn't for me.

@fepethepenguin8287

3 жыл бұрын

@@chinogambino9375 it does in a dark room

I owned a 65" plasma for 10 years that I used as a HTPC. It only had very minor burn-in towards the end of its life that I could only see on e.g. a solid white screen when standing close to the TV. OLED was a no-brainer to replace it.

@drewcwsj

2 жыл бұрын

My Plasma is 9 years old with 50k hours as a HTPC and still looks new

@yz249

2 жыл бұрын

@@drewcwsj You've probably lost alot of peak brightness though, plasma displays half life for brightness is gernerally around 60k hours.

@Physics072

2 жыл бұрын

My 2012 Samsung 65" plasma looked like new in 2021 no burn ins. But the power board went out and it will take a bit to find a repair shop for it so I went OLED C1 as a fill in. Arrives in 2 days.

@Karifi

2 жыл бұрын

My Panasonic 600hz plasma still running with better image than any led. Sadly only 1080p.

Very detailed review brother, good job keep it up.

Will you test Hisense dual Cell ULED (65SX or 75 U9DG)?

I was about to pull the trigger a week ago on the Samsung as it seems a better match for my bright living room, but too many people are getting panels with DSE and then screen drop out from HDMI devices. I get that currently with my older Qled and the PS5 (doesn't happen with the XSX) and it drives me mad, it looks to have gotten worse with these new sets 🤔

@tygobermind3640

3 жыл бұрын

That's with the one connectbox, if you get the QN90A instead of the QN95A you won't have the dropout.

@ZG0002

3 жыл бұрын

@@tygobermind3640 Then you aren't getting the 4 x HDMI 2.1 ports which is a different problem (as above I have both the new consoles connected go the tv) thanks for the info though I will take a look.

@tygobermind3640

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZG0002 There are hdmi 2.1 splitters available.

@ZG0002

2 жыл бұрын

@@tygobermind3640 As always, I've done the research and unfortunately this statement isn't true. The QN90A and QN94A also suffer from drop outs and DSE. It's a shame as I would manage with one 2.1 HDMI (oh and you can't currently get a 2.1 splitter that supports 4k 120hz, which is the whole point in wanting hdmi 2.1)

@tygobermind3640

2 жыл бұрын

@@ZG0002 My QN92A hasn't had a single dropoup on hdmi.

I watched this on an LG OLED, and I could really see the differences. I think it helps to have a high-quality television in order to get the full impact of these tests.

@rygaros6669

2 жыл бұрын

im happy i bought the QLED Neo, much better :))

Can you do an LED blooming demonstration with and without bias lighting? I feel like that would really be useful. I will be doing it on my own anyway but I think it would be cool to see you do it too!

Here's a question, why is tone mapping allegedly more difficult with more zones, yet OLED has pixel level tone mapping. Surely that would be the most challenging of all?

@bigcjm

2 жыл бұрын

No. One has absolute control over it's picture. The other has limited control while trying to look like it has absolute control. It's akin to the difference between being in the cockpit of a vehicle vs controlling it remotely with partial controls

As someone that went through two Samsung QN90As, I can tell you I'm much happier with my LG C1 now. Too many problems with vertical banding and DSE on Samsung sets. Not to mention blooming in game mode. Great brightness and color volume can't overcome manufacturing issues and too few dimming zones.

@cmpmeridian1

3 жыл бұрын

I went through 3 QN90A and had a 65 C1 and a 83A90J and prefer my 75Z8H to all of them price to value overall

@tygobermind3640

3 жыл бұрын

You can get rid of most the blooming by settings local dimming to standard or low. The default gamemode settings suck, but you can make it look really good with some tweaking.

@JustOneGuy

3 жыл бұрын

@@tygobermind3640 You can change source to game console and change many settings that are otherwise locked which can give you much better image. I don't know why people don't talk about that.

@Jg-be7it

3 жыл бұрын

Get back to us in about a year and a half, when your burn in starts to creep in.

@aicguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@tygobermind3640 I don't deny you can make it look great. Darker scenes do simply fall apart. Not enough dimming zones. Not to mention how everything gets nerfed in game mode. Just the way it is. Honestly it's something I could put up with if the panels weren't all infested with DSE and vertical banding problems. Edit: As a side note, Samsung's dynamic tone mapping goes against artists/developers intent. Would rather it track properly.

I love the comparison but can you please do a comparison using the Samsung 900T 8K Neo Qled Versus LG C1 please please that would be very nice cause that's what I'm debating on which TV to get.thanks

I really like the neutral tech heavy delivery of this channel. absolutely no BS talk here. sometimes I have to google stuff he mentions... that's rare!

Thank you so much for your help in my purchase decision!

Decided upgrade my Q60R to a QN90A and I couldn't be happier with the picture quality. I am having an issue with my Series X and PS5 on the HDR calibration screen. You mentioned in one of your videos that even though the new Samsung QLED support HGIG, it still tone maps which makes it hard to use the calibration. How many click from darkest should I have my Neo QLED set at?

@Tyler-nj5dr

2 жыл бұрын

I just picked one up to. Are you having trouble with Game Motion Plus? Judder reduction seems to do nothing at all. I want smooth gaming!

@VLADABEAST

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tyler-nj5dr I turn off all video processing when playing games.

@VLADABEAST

2 жыл бұрын

@Gr1mwalk3r that's what I have my PS5 set to already but Xbox is different

@bravedwarf

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tyler-nj5dr turn it off it’s rubbish. Input delay goes mad

Well worded intro Vincent - 'for your needs' is something people have trouble with.

@mrwalker6026

3 жыл бұрын

Very true..Sony care very much about their own needs why delivering false promises...

@26101976bdm

3 жыл бұрын

@@mrwalker6026 your meds have run out, wipe the dribble off your shoulder. Vincent showed an LG OLED because the Sony obliterates both of these TV's for PQ.

@mrwalker6026

3 жыл бұрын

@@26101976bdm Wouldn't it be wonderful to be the proud owner of the Sony X900h right now...18 months and still no VRR as promised, blurring and colour banding at 120 Hz doesn't sound like superb PQ to me.... Forgive me but I want a TV that's good at everything and covers all bases without compromising one feature at the expense of another 🤷‍♂️

Just received my QN85A and I don't know why it got all that hate?! The blacks are so deep and the local dimming is beautiful. Yes without local dimming it's ugly but why would I turn it off!

Vincent, what settings did you use on the LG in game mode? Turning on HGIG and disabling dynamic contrast will make the image much much darker than it should and can be on the OLED. Turn these settings on guys

@fredfinks

3 жыл бұрын

What is HGIG? Thinking of a 75" Q90A. (still on a 2009 plasma) I just want 'real' picture as possible without fancy effects (or side effects). Ill be connecting PC but may not play games on it (have pc for that) if theres going to be a bunch of detrimental settings that affect video/ tv. What do you recommend? Thanks for help

@VeryBlueCactus

2 жыл бұрын

@@fredfinks when it comes to gaming both OLED and QLED will be good

Even when the OLED displayed a visibly dimmer image, there was still something deeper to the image, compared to the QLED.

@jonathaningram8157

2 жыл бұрын

crushed black?

@bigben9056

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonathaningram8157 yeah on qled for sure.you dont even know what crushed black is.and its not always a bad thing.overbrightenig shadow detail is way worse than that.its a bad thing if you see what you should not see

@jotapeeee4009

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigben9056 Bro, the C1 just has a problem with black crushing, It is a legit problem

The big issue with any local dimming technology is as soon as it is utilized good luck maintaining any level of color accuracy. This is why the OLED displays are still king. No off angle contrast/color shift is a huge plus as well.

@prussell890

Жыл бұрын

King of brightness?

I live in the USA, if I could find a qn95a would I be able to use it here with only changing the power cable? I want the one connect box with all 4 hdmi 2.1 ports. Here in the USA the qn90a doesn't have the one connect box and only has 1 hdmi 2.1 port. THANK YOU!

Hello, I was asking you, what TV do you suggest for me to buy, which one is the best, LG OLED C3 or Neo QLED 90 C Samsung?

Qled all the time.., i just like how bright this TV is!!!...

Do you see those 2 dead pixels on the Samsung?

Great video... what's the best tv for the PS5 under 1000 ? Greetings from Switzerland !!

Vincent can you please do one for Samsung q90T? q90T is 600 less than Qn90A where I’m at; would you recommend buying that over the much better Qn90A? Also how does Q90T compare to X90j which is 200 cheaper? Thanks!

Im sorry, but after going LG OLED, I can't go back to Led ever. Nor Samsung, Oled just immerses you into every aspect. Playing Gears 5, walking in the dark areas just made me feel like i was in the game.

@nejihiashi

3 жыл бұрын

Led and neo qled are different you need to watch neo qled so you can compare them.

@chinogambino9375

3 жыл бұрын

Then you go into the searing light of the sun, then ABL kicks in and its like you are in England on a grey overcast day.

@tygobermind3640

3 жыл бұрын

@@chinogambino9375 And then you realise the bight hud of the game has been there for the entire afternoon. Still visable when you watch tv later that night. But at least the black levels are perfect eh...

@joKerchy

3 жыл бұрын

Yes oled for gaming is simply amazing. Best picture you can buy. Samsung looks shit in game mode. Everything is grey and washed out.

@joKerchy

3 жыл бұрын

@@nejihiashi it’s the same washed out picture with blooming.

Stick with my cx n love it everysingle time i turn on.

@Jg-be7it

3 жыл бұрын

Give it about 18 months. Burn in is inevitable.

@dions4683

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jg-be7it 4 year Best Buy Geek Squad warranty on mine (covers Burn-in). Bring on the burn-in🤣

@R1ckmister

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jg-be7it utter bullshit the cx is now coming to 18 months, no mass reports of burn in

@Jg-be7it

2 жыл бұрын

@@R1ckmister Says who? You?

@Jg-be7it

2 жыл бұрын

@@dions4683 It is hilarious that you have to pay for an extra third party warranty because the TV you already paid a premium for can't handle actually being used like a TV.🤣

the point this is missing besides for bright rooms is this. in a few years you will see burned pixels less color and burn in on the oled. meanwhile a miniled will continue to shine with none of those issues. it goes like this.. edge lit < direct < full array < qled < miniled qled < oled < qd oled < micro led. the genius of the qled is that while not equal to oled its darn close. you get benefits i already mention and lower prices especially for screen sizes over 75 inches.

9:11 does the game mode on the QN95A still look this bad? Or has it been fixed/impoved?