The ISF will always be the OG 🫡

@2jzge

4 ай бұрын

Especially since it’s more affordable getting one for 19k cad 😅

@Midwest..

2 ай бұрын

Japanese classic 😊

@_MIKIMOTO_

2 ай бұрын

The build quality was so good between 10-13

The new IS front is so beautiful, its crazy. Unbelievably smooth and sharp

Wait that ISF is so sick! I can't believe they made tail lights and trunks that look like the new IS 500s rear! That's so cool

Nice review!! Most 500 (IS & LC) owners are not interested in the track weapon-ish characteristics of an F Product. I had a ‘06 IS350 and a ‘16 IS350 FSport and I loved both of them! I just wished they were a bit faster and had a tad more driving dynamics without compromising the Lexus-ness and Lexus delivered! The IS500 is the perfect street car, it’s fast, stunning to watch, and is most of all…comfortable. The ISF is awesome, but the suspension is too stiff for me to use on a daily basis. Plus…mountain sweepers aside…I’m never going on a track, so the ‘F Bits’ would be wasted on me. So I’m quite happy to be Team FSport Performance! Thanks for posting.

@truonghthe

7 ай бұрын

I agree with you, hence why Lexus call this an F sport. I dont know why people keep comparing this to an F car. May be because the 2UR-GSE? The Asin 8spd already found various Lexus products.

@T5_T-Rell

7 ай бұрын

Lexus introducing the actual F line of cars and then evolving to have f sports along side them was a great move. Lexus makes great cars in general and I love them both. The is500 also looks updated and very attractive and classy. The isf while older still looks good and is more suited as you mentioned for the more enthusiast driver in mind who may want to do more extreme driving.

@demetriusford

7 ай бұрын

I bought a 500 just to make it a track weapon. I liked that it didn’t have the support, or f badge. It’s an underdog that gives you the freedom to expand the platform how you choose. A well modded 500 is fierce

@blu_is500

7 ай бұрын

@@demetriusford Can’t wait to see the results! I’m not interested in messing with the suspension to feel the road, I just want to go fast with super direct steering. 😜

@darryltaylor2438

6 ай бұрын

I love my GS350 F sport. It’s quick but there’s something about the GSF that I want to own.

ISF seats are a dream. I have had both M and AMG guys ask if seats were OEM. Down side of ISF is stock sports suspension AND POT HOLES; SPEED BUMPS better have a really nice vocab :) . Take negation of both of those and you have a great suspension for daily driving with all modern gadgets in IS500 . Yet ISF is more JDM looking. I have the 2x/500 launch edt from 2022. And for those wondering the $; it was markup of +8K for "market adjustment" .

Add Apple Carplay with Grom Vline in the ISF and it's all the "modern" I need in a car.

I’m taking the 2012+ isf over the is500

I love my ISF and will never get rid of it. But of all the new cars I could even hope top afford the new IS is just killer.

@leonel9110

6 ай бұрын

Currently have a IS 250. iSF is def on my list of dream cars

Awesome video

Great video man! Your suit looks great too. Id love to see more comparison content like this to the old cars.

Cleanest ISF I’ve seen wow.

ISF for me. I already own an RCF and the size/lower weight would fit my tastes. This car started the F line.

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

Great choice!!

@ratedm90

24 күн бұрын

Is the weight with the rcf an actual issue? Because that’s all I hear about those cars is how heavy they are

@2URLex

24 күн бұрын

@@ratedm90 not as much as they say but it’s just noticeable in certain situations but it’s very manageable, and it doesn’t hold me back lol I wouldn’t trade it for anything on the market.

Good video. However, I do wish the comparison involved a more stock ISF. this white one is modified a little too much and trying to be 'updated'. It wouldve been a better comparison for the different eras.

Yes the engine is the best part of the Lexus ISF. But I didn’t know the transmission was ahead of its time. Good bit of knowledge to share at a Cars and Coffee. ☕️

Thanks for the insightful review. I would love to see Lexus produce an updated isf.

I enjoy your videos. It’s helping me shop for a RCF or IS500

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

3 ай бұрын

Hey! Thanks for watching! The RCF and IS 500 are both great choices!

great vid ill tale the isF please and thank you love the 500 sounds swell

This is a great review and video. You are a natural

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I see you have some Supra content on your channel! I have a 1995 JDM Supra as my personal car!

@HK.Builds

6 ай бұрын

@@PerformanceLexusNiagara nice! Mine is a 94 JDM, but I'm manual swapping it.. Well, going to! It's been sat for a while but I'm posting on youtube to motivate myself

PHYSICAL BUTTONS AND KNOBS >>>

Lot of mods on the ISF, looks good cheers.

i growl i need it right now! this aint a song its me thinking outloud!

that ISF is nice asf 2000s cars with 2020 details look so good because it makes sense lol

I’d go for the IS 500. Thanks for the review.

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

In terms of exterior Lexus doesnt seem to disappoint when it comes to making attractive looking cars. Sometimes though simple is better and I will always have a soft spot for the OG ISF

That suit is tougher than the whips 🧐😮‍💨😤

I would go with the IS500 just for the grill, I love that black widow type grill.

Def taking the isf such a classic ♡

Thanks for this video! I appreciate the comparison. I picked up the most recent IS F sold on BringATrailer and I'm loving it. It took me some time to see all the details and appreciate how well the team thought through some of the dynamics and experience. Coming from a W205 C63S, the suspension is relatively not so bad either :)

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

Love that! Congrats on the ISF!

Keeping my IS-F with RR racing 780 kit and other tasty mods (very disapointed with is500 weight, and soft spongy suspension and brakes)

Dustin! Keep the reviews coming! And man, I need to go suit shopping with you one day! Dude, you know how to make a brother want to step his game up! Oh, and my pick is the IS500

@VersanGetryx

7 ай бұрын

What if you can pick up the IS F for 35k less? :)

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

HAHA Love that! Thank you for the great compliment! I do love a fine fitting suit that's for sure!!

License plate on that ISF is brilliant. I look forward to a second hand IS500 in a few years.

ISF was a true M/AMG/RS contender. IS500 is NOT. It was a Lexus agreeing to stuff the 5.0 V8 into the “new” IS chassis and that’s basically all it is. NO major changes to the suspension, chassis or transmission, where it needed it the most.

@floggyWM1

7 ай бұрын

In a way its a good thing, other wise it would bring the price up to 80+k.

Yes. I believe there's a sportier model to come.

I own a 2008 Lexus IS250 and my older brother owns a 2008 ISF. As someone who has driven the ISF quite a few times, I would stick to the old ISF. I love that car.

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

3 ай бұрын

There is something about those old IS's for sure! Great choice with yours! I see you have some good content on your channel as well! Thanks for watching!

IS500 for me since I own one. It is the perfect balance of modern family sedan for that dad life and just enough sports car for that inner child in you.

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

Love that! Great choice!

I have a 2015 IS350 F Sport AWD and would keep this car forever if it had that 5L V8. I’m hesitant to go back in time for an IS F because I’ve gotten so used to the creature comforts, seat improvements, and huge design/styling upgrades. But not sure I’d want to make the price jump to the 500. Wish there was a true F from the 3rd gen cars!

Awesome cars

I doubt a new ISF would be anywhere close to the price point of an IS500. Anything lower than USD$90k would cannibalize RCF sales. Toyota/Lexus are better off selling the “F” (or as a TRD or TOMs) body kit piece by piece as an end-user or dealer mod - maybe even a transmission tune included for the IS500 to transform into the F. Sort of what they did for ‘94 Supra to TRD3000GT and TOM’s body kit back in the days.

The ISF is not a 2008....the dash cluster is from a newer ISF. I think it was 2011 when the change was made. Unless the owner switch the cluster. Love my ISF, to bad Lexus didn't make the IS500 into a true F. Most people don't understand F vs F Sport. Still would take the IS500 any day over any other sedan out there. Of course that would bring my IS count to 3, 2005 IS300 and 2008 ISF are my current IS cars.

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

Great attention to detail! Yes the owner did put in a 2011 Gauge Cluster, which was apparently a nice upgrade from the 2008. Which year ISF do you have? have you done much to it? Or did you go for the classy stock look?

I’ll take the LC!

Great video comparison. Please invest in better audio gear. You peaked a few times. Ty. Keep it up.

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and for the feedback! I passed this on to my videography/editor and we are filming tonight so are going to try some different settings!

Very nice comparison, I prefer the older classic real ISF.

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Yes the classic ISF does have something about it for sure! I might have to try and do a road test sometime in 2024!

Lexus ISF still look stunning. Still looking bullet proof. Toyota Lexus Yamaha makes good high quality high performance car. Not powerful not the fastest but the best high performance car in the world in my opinion.😁 (LFA LC LS ES and IS)

@floggyWM1

7 ай бұрын

your reaching here bud, i have IS500 and i love it, i dont regret getting it, and i enjoy driving it. But to say "the best high performance car in the world" is really pushing it, its really not in the top 10

@linkylion9060

6 ай бұрын

​@yosonimstuckinthetwilightz286 so if it's not in the top 10 in your opinion why do you have one?..why waste your money and time on a car you do not see or think is worthy of being in the top 10 in your book 🤔

@floggyWM1

6 ай бұрын

@@linkylion9060 i said its not in the top 10 when it comes to performance, my buy wasn't solely based on the performance

I'm 36 and the ISF is my dream first car. Still working hard to can afford it. Such a master piece underrated. Funny thing i've never seen one in reality i guess that's the playing field in Africa.

@rockybaucom

Ай бұрын

Just got mine 3 mos ago (2012 model ) in mint condition. Obsidian black w black alcantara seats. I love it !!!

Information on the ISF headlights??

Is that ISF for sale?

So true! I kno lexus has the RC but I think they should hv just made the IS a coupe. It looks like 1

Still love the look of the ISF way more. Wish they would bring back this car in this classic look instead of the new Darth Vader front end on the new IS500F

That is the cleanest isf ive ever seen

How can I get those rear lights for my isf?

I like the isf, just the og f car, i'd definitely love the is500 as a daily though

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

Yes! That would be the ideal setup. IS 500 daily and ISF weekend car!

Where on earth do you find those custom headlights and rear lights for the ISF? Never seen anything like it. Ever.

@Xueqs

6 ай бұрын

Amazon

What year isbthe ISF????

Although i like the modern design of the is500. I prefer the clean understated classic lexus look of isf. Also the isf is a true F-car. I would pick the ISF as my show car and the is500 as my daily driver.

My v6 honda is enough tho my first fast car....will forever be greatful...will get 2014 isF just wanna make sure i have the money first...dont want car note anymore less stress on my girl

Did you say it had a Big Break kit? 😅

Taller and wider is win for the IS500 in terms of design

I’d have to go isf but 2011+…I really dislike the interior on them but still think the isf is amazing where as if I was shopping for an is500 I’d get a bmw m340i(just my personal taste)

Does the IS500 have same transmission from the ISF?

i love the 2nd gen is. but to me the is500 is a clear winner with it being newer and just have better amenities. plus im sure most isF been driven hard, or atleast harder than a normal car.

Isf needs a update

2:41 blue shine where? I hope it’s the camera not picking up the blue, paint jobs aren’t cheap

I like the infotainment better in the is F

As an ISF owner myself, it’s hard not to like the newer car with newer tech. But the ISF was made to be raw & pushed to the hill, the IS500 was made to be more refined/daily driver friendly. I still think the F car is the better buy

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

10 күн бұрын

congrats on the ISF! Such a beast of a car that just keeps going up in value!

Please is isf for sell ?

IS500 for me. I absolutely love the sharp and attractive design.

Hold on! I didn’t get it!! Is the car in white brand new??!

I love the simple looks of the past...modern hads alot of lines 😅

Smaller means lighter and better handling, which gives a performance advantage. Add a bigger screen and the lightning bling of the 500 to an ISF, and you have the perfect car. So, if a new F is coming, please, pretty please, make it an updated version of itself (ISFr, ISFII?) not an IS500F! I will also take a 2012+ ISF over the 500, any day. To put it in perspective, an IS-F is an IS body with everything else improved or redone from scratch, to achieve the ultimate Lexus driving experience on a street car, at the time (think Fuji/Yamaha/TRD). An IS500 is an IS everything, with an ISF V8 in it.

Does anybody knows if the front bumper of IS-F fit on a regular IS250?

I miss my 2007 IS350.

I prefer the late 2010s interiors over the new mid 2020s interiors that have enormous screens

@larkt6693

6 ай бұрын

Yeah those interiors had a more intimate feel

Unfortunately you don’t get BBK With the is500

I want one ❤ it

It’s a nice car, wish they didn’t axe the GS-F because the IS feels like a small car. Just not that much space.

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

Yes I agree!! The GSF is a dream car of mine

I bet I could do donuts in an IS 500. 🤓

ISF first series 2008

Hard to really compare as one is stock and the ISF is highly customized and away from stock

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

I'd love to do another comparison with a stock ISF but they are so rare! Hopefully I'll come across one!

ISF...no question. The fact all the F cars after it weigh up to 400 lbs more shows that Lexus has moved backwards. Yes it's an old person's car that probably values comfort over performance but there are so many other comfort cars in the Lexus line up that at least one car can be unhinged.

I've seen ISF with apple carplay

I was between the IS500 and a Camaro SS1le. Yeah I know totally different cars but I like them both. I ended up with the 1le but this 500 is always calling me. I think I will have to sacrifice and have both the Camaro and the 500 soon.

Ist gen is f just looks better

The is 500 should have been released in 2018

I’ll be honest here. IS500 and the ISF are not in the same league. The only similarities they have are the 5 L V-8 engine. Other than that the IS 500 is still a “F sport”, and not a true ‘F’. 6 Piston on the F compared to 4 piston on the F Sport, smaller rotors, F sport suspension (which can be found in every F sport), where the F has its own tuned suspension that doesn’t share with anything else. The list can go on. Also, can we talk about the age difference

Mann tha ISF 💫🛞🛞

bring back the ISF!

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

5 ай бұрын

YES PLEASE!

What is the colour of the IS500 featured here?

@blu_is500

7 ай бұрын

It’s called Iridium Silver.

@corollabzr

6 ай бұрын

Iridium Silver and the color is discontinued for 2024, so if you want that color on the 500 you have to buy 2022 or 2023...

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

Actually this particular one is Atomic Silver (in the Canadian market anyway)

Love the vintage look on the isf these new Lexus not my style

Wow where can I get that F badge for my ISF??

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

It was custom made, but I can try and get the info for you!

Probability on new ISF being made?

@PerformanceLexusNiagara

6 ай бұрын

I go back and forth with this sometimes, however I do see some "Performance" trends happening in the Lexus world. SO I'm thinking right now it's a 70% chance it gets made!

@drzbest07

6 ай бұрын

they need to make the ISF 500 .,

But Can Mary Poppins levitate a rancor?

Rear lights spoil the isf

The isf is a performance vehicle and the is500 is a sport luxury vehicle 😅😅😅😅😅,they detuned the torque on the is500 and isf has 500 something torque # big difference 😆

Did you just say there's a new ISF coming? 😮 I know you said rumor but it could very well be a tease.

@michaelvang1902

7 ай бұрын

Considering the RC F "Track Edition" is $100K+ there's no point in a new IS F. It'll cost the same and Lexus won't make any profit on it. Is500 is a good solution for that.

@floggyWM1

7 ай бұрын

ISF might be coming, if its going to be electric. Lexus/Toyota are going away from V8 toward the electric route.

@stefano3124

7 ай бұрын

@@floggyWM1 Electric ISF? Thats not a real ISF. ☹️

@corollabzr

6 ай бұрын

@@floggyWM1 they say they are moving towards EV but they are still testing the twin turbo V8 that will probably end up in the next LFA or make it's way down to a F product. They did say they are making a EV supercar and also a Hybrid version of it.

@mrbzliteyear

6 ай бұрын

Lexus 2008-2010 stuck now as prior F had good HP vs M/AMG, but now 15 years later same engine so it can only keep up w bmw/Mercedes’ lower “sports” trims - what can Lexus do?

This may be just me. But I like the ISF better than the IS 500. To be honest, I'm hoping if they bring it back talking about the Isf I would love to see that car with Amy with a really powerful engine. I don't know maybe the 2jz 🤔 and just a little small and with AWD I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT !!!!❤

The ISF actually had leather seats smh Lexus interiors have gone downhill through the years

One can dream T-T

hows the MPG tho?

@abuelb

6 ай бұрын

What's a mpg?😂

@rocc6596

6 ай бұрын

@@abuelb nooooo then i cant get it ...

Why does Lexus insist on sticking the touch screen on top of the dash instead of integrating it into the dash. My GS350 has the screen in the dash. Much more pleasing to the eye...it's tacky, like an afterthought ...that said I wouldn't touch any other car, Lexus rules

As a previous owner of two ISF (08/10) The ISF paddle shift is and was slow af. Many dual clutch options from Germans were faster than the auto 8 speed

@sircefiro

6 ай бұрын

Those german cars will likely cause issues though unless pretty new, you seen there's trans tune for the isf now?