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@karlwilliams8625

Жыл бұрын

Do you believe the Justin's should find women in America or join the passport bros?

@xenophilia.lovegood

Жыл бұрын

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@internettuffguy1197

Жыл бұрын

Truth is, this Harriet girl wouldn't be making a video about this Topic unless it got under her skin. She's probably going to figure out the hard way that she's the least desirable type of Woman How do I know this? Your own Black Men are fleeing overseas to get *away* from Women like you lol 😆

@ForHarriet619

Жыл бұрын

@@internettuffguy1197 I have the man I want so, y'all do whatever makes you happy.

@alwaysreliable3

Жыл бұрын

@@ForHarriet619 I thought you were happily single. I am glad you found a man that makes you happy, and hopefully you make him happy as well. This should shut down all of the "she hates Black men talk (I am a BM)." Congratulations

Speaking as a Puerto Rican woman this "snaggging an American Man" is an old game. Be sure to check in after the 5 year mark when immigration stops doing check-ins, that full citizenship kicks in, and marriage tourist man forgot about the prenup. Some men don't realize women have starter marriages too.

@YaBasicMillenial

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking this too. Sounds like a marketing tagline. These women hopefully have the ability to leave this explorative situations

@elray9553

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations adios

@Nihilist_Porcupine

Жыл бұрын

Lol oh yeah. It's funny I've watched distant relatives of mine be so thrilled to bag a white American man... Then be shocked to find that they're not all rich and classy. You married a redneck who barely works, hun, and his parents call your kids slurs. Barely worth the paper his passport is printed on. But if you want that piece of paper, it's worth it to suffer for a few years to these people. You'll be bombarded with threats of deportation from your own husband and walk on eggshells the entire time. But when they get that citizenship... Poof, they're gone. And the moron never understands why because 'everything was going so well'.

@laughingshaman1

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know where you’re actually from, but if you were Puerto Rican, you would know that Puerto Ricans are 100% American citizens. There is no “full citizenship” needed.

@CyberMachine

Жыл бұрын

@@laughingshaman1 You do know that Dominicans do this with Puerto Ricans right?

My neighbor is a passport bro & his Filipina wife hates him lmao. He’ll be trying to have a conversation with her & she just walks away mid sentence like he doesn’t exist & it’s the funniest shit I’ve ever seen.

@aesanonymous8936

Жыл бұрын

I can't trust anybody with a mail order wife so much so that it's hard to even trust people who married somebody from another country. Obviously not all International relationships are like that, but it's hard not to side until the coast is clear. I literally helped end the marriage of a woman who was married to another woman because she was being abused and having her immigrant status threatened and used against her to stay in the marriage.

@ms.x1669

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@LifeAfter50withTerree

Жыл бұрын

I too have seen this in person!😆😆😆

@YashChoudhary-sz7mn

Жыл бұрын

It's how it is, a normal relationship 😁

@promiseland772

Жыл бұрын

My father is also married to a Filipina. He’s a deadbeat father and grandfather and a sexual predator. She’s able see past that and certainly doesn’t care.

Marriages are declining globally Putting this on BW is similar to what has been happening in China over the last decade or 2 with the concept of "leftover women". B/c of the 1 child policy, boys were preferred over girls. Now there's so many more men of marriageable age (and old age, Lol) than women. But a lot of women are either focusing on career, or not wanting the hassle in general. So the campaign with the term "leftover women" was started to shame the women into hurriedly marrying men, when in fact it's the men that are the left overs and "in need" of women

@rosepink9961

Жыл бұрын

Things are so bad, poor chinese women and from neighbor countries are being human traficked to be wives

@leila_de_hautjardin

Жыл бұрын

That's such a cognitive dissonance : complaining about being single while shaming single women.

@anikasmith8361

Жыл бұрын

YUP, I saw that in a docu and was confused about the "leftover women" title. There are WHOLE VILLAGES of single men with no chance of getting a woman to marry and have kids for them.

@CyberMachine

Жыл бұрын

@@rosepink9961 They could easily solve this with immigration but they want to keep China pure.

@iamlaurengill

Жыл бұрын

And I heard the men were miserable and tired because they can’t find wives

Any BM not selling drugs on the corner or not trying to start a rap career considers himself NOT a "Pookie or Ray Ray" when attempting to disparage BW

@submissiveproviderstboth9485

Жыл бұрын

They ALL pookies and Ray rays to me 😂

@angechrisman1694

Жыл бұрын

@@submissiveproviderstboth9485 This is not a divestment channel

@kaylove4507

Жыл бұрын

Listen some of them don't sell drugs because first of all they're not smart enough to and not to say all drug dealers are smart but they don't even have the business acumen to get started with selling drugs because it does take a little bit of business one-on-one to even consider the thought of selling drugs which a lot of them don't want to be independent That's why they don't do it it's not because there's such great men or because they have high integrity now is because they know that they would fail at it because none of them are builders. In the saddest part is that most of the action that was taken to build the black community back in the day had to do with the drug dealers. It was them who looked out for the community back in the day at least It was drug dealers who made sure turkeys and Christmas gifts got to kids This was back in the day though not these new drug dealers

@aswrittenbyash

Жыл бұрын

I know. The bar is so low for black men in America. They think just because they are not found work in some warehouse or in construction, are not unemployed, or did not end up in jail they are "high value men". Then the few black men that somehow manage to obtain a college degree and get an office job believe they are God's gift to women because they've managed to do the educational bare minimum that other races of men have been doing since forever.

@Karina_Borz

Жыл бұрын

Yet y’all procreate with those ones and become single mothers 😂😂😂

All I have to say to these pASSport Bros is “so long, farewell, auf weidersehen, goodbye. Adieu, adieu to you and you and you 😆 👋🏾✌🏾

@vsperatos

Жыл бұрын

Lmfaoooooo

@jensendsflowers

Жыл бұрын

LOL

@rafiqah4106

Жыл бұрын

Precisely.

@candycoatedreams

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@RayRay-yt1ly

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I've heard stories of women in mostly west Africa thinking they have fallen in love with a white man from Europe and following him there. When they get there they are abused and basically not allowed to live or leave. This one lady told a story of how this man would lock her in the house when he went to work and took away her phone. This passport bros thing feels very predatory to me

@moustik31

Жыл бұрын

I saw one bragging about r@ping Asian women in the Global South, so I think you are right: passport bros are very f*cked up.

@davichigbue1835

Жыл бұрын

It is, it's just repackaged séx tourism. Word for word bar for bar

@korionterivers9995

Жыл бұрын

It’s very predatory. They are using there privilege of being from a better country as there Xfactor in poorer countries

@Bree5three

Жыл бұрын

@@korionterivers9995 That part! And it also shows what sort of narcissist you are, or level of narcissism you must possess to think an entire country's worth of women is undeserving of you or "not good enough" to wife. Like who tf do you think you are? If you're getting that many undesirable partners either you need to pick better (like they love to tell us to do) or reevaluate what you actually lack and don't bring to the table that the woman you desire, requires (also like they love to tell us to do).

@sorel7342

Жыл бұрын

It also reminds me a bit of the "Thai brides" thing. Do you have that in America? In the UK some men who struggle in the UK dating scene would somehow get brides from countries like Thailand (I'm sure Thailand isn't the only one) and the idea is that they are submissive or whatever. I think it's something done through the internet but I think it's been a thing since like the 90s and before the internet was widespread. There was this idea of "mail order brides". Again it's like generally kind of weird guys who are struggling to hold down relationships because of something they might need to work on or understand about themselves, rather than finding a woman who they can get away with treating worse because she's in a strange country and wouldn't find it easy to get away. I don't know my memory on this phenomenon is kind of sketchy though

I just want to add that this is nothing new. In the African community, getting a wife from « the village » is common too. It’s weird cause sometimes, parents will encourage their son to do that while encouraging their daughter to be independent and not settle.

@fa_abdi3001

Жыл бұрын

Yes, because they know they did a poor job with the men. We have the same in the Muslim community. Men are vicious, education was left in the toilet and doing random job to get by while their own sisters are getting PhD in masse. So mum and dad know that the daughter deserves better. The guy has to find some desperate girl from the village that usually after 5 years she is leaving.

@YashChoudhary-sz7mn

Жыл бұрын

Life is predatory and unfair

@sallyhemings2295

Жыл бұрын

Complete LUNACY 😂

@breannajoseph2018

Жыл бұрын

that is a madness

@hazelbasil6451

Жыл бұрын

But why? That makes no sense?

It's pretty interesting that one guy said " looking for caring loving partners." But he said " cooking and cleaning as the traits" I said "Sir that's a maid but go off." 😂😂😂😂😂 Passport bros are just 90 day without the reality tv show.

@aesanonymous8936

Жыл бұрын

This is definitely tied to the unfortunate reality of when women and men are asked what they love about their partners, men tend to describe things that their partner does for them versus who their partner is.

@AndSoWeLaughed

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! He really so they’re looking for love SO they’re looking for cooking and cleaning. How is one related to the other without nuance and context (of patriarchy, feminism and everything in between which I doubt was his intention at all”. He used ‘so’ not ‘and’ which is very weird to me.

@abbeywalker5283

Жыл бұрын

I was looking for this! I wish more of them would watch 90 Days as a cautionary tale. Especially the updates.

@businessbuilder92

Жыл бұрын

@@aesanonymous8936 and women don't describe their men by what he can provide for them more than his personality? When women are asked what they want in a man Is providing and protecting not his opinion on third wave feminism lol

@bowalker7114

Жыл бұрын

I bet $10K this is a baby mama

It’s is increasingly embarrassing and scary every time I hear some new dumb idea a lot of my brothers are in to. I read ‘passport bros’ and thought we’re finally promoting “catch flights not fights” or somethin about exposure to life abroad. And here tf we go, some ignorant shit. If these men think they’re just gonna fly back to the states with silent, frail geisha stereotypes…ugh🤦🏾‍♂️

@aesanonymous8936

Жыл бұрын

Yup its mail order brides all over again. Straight up advocating predatory sex tourism to each other.

@FreyaEinde

Жыл бұрын

But for real can we talk about that weird fantasy trope men have about somewhere out there is a race of submissive women that’ll grant them emperor status. Like it’s a straight up psycho desire and needs to be called out. Nobody deserves to treated like a sex servant with no avenue for independence, it’s mad gross to have that as an expectation.

@Bree5three

Жыл бұрын

Honestly same, I thought nothing of it and then was annoyed and appalled when I actually found out what it really was. They never cease to amaze, their ignorance always manages to reach new heights

@lmusima3275

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t call these guys my brothers 😂 they’re new to actually having passports for the first time in their lazy, dusty, unproductive lives. They’ve chosen to be at the bottom end of society, doing the bare minimum, looking for 50/50 relationships. Then they go as far as hating on BW from the west to the point of elevating foreign women as the ideal wives. What have these BM brothers got to offer?

@fa_abdi3001

Жыл бұрын

You must be protected.

"...because being a wife/married is not about love." 100% facts. b/c when men complain, its not because of a lack of love. It is bc she doesn't cook or clean or doesn't want to have sex more often. They want certain services out of her and w/o them, they start to look elsewhere.

@ladybug3380

Жыл бұрын

Exactly their “love” is conditional

@LoneWulf278

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. It would be more bearable if these services were appreciated and compensated, but guys act like women are supposed to be grateful to have more work. 😂

@Harold10ful

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that's hypocritical. Up down and all around this channel when the topic is different you see oceans of women in the comment section complaining how they want a man of means or a man to pay this or a man to protect that etc. Facts is YES men want certain attributes from their wives or gf, the same as women wanting something from their husband or boyfriend. In what world is it fair for a woman to demand a man to have certain things but when a man ask for what he values I the same dynamic, then it's a problem. What type of backwards thinking is that. Yes my love cost something and so does yours.

@joshedaforrester5966

Жыл бұрын

@Leonard Washington your word salad has absolutely nothing to do with my point. My point is that, in many relationships, men make their women feel like they're only purpose is to do tasks of service for them. And that they're easily replaceable. No person wants to feel like a maid and cook. We do what we do out of love. Not bc we aspire to be glorified help. Women are people. We want to be loved in our entirety. Not just for what you or any man can get out of us. So think before you type and think twice before accusing me of being a hypocrite.

@Harold10ful

Жыл бұрын

@@joshedaforrester5966 ONCE AGAIN, your soggy argument is you want to hold someone to a standard but you do not want a standard to be held to you! you are a hypocrite! Men too want to be loved in their entirety as well, but we all know a woman will not be with a man if he is not providing, protecting and making provisions. Which is completely understandable! and true but for some insane reason when a man says "hey! I want a woman who is feminine, respectful, cooks and cleans" now it become a shaming tactic and political debate. You will get what you give you will not introduce a man to a certain standard then drop off mid relationship the same of how a man who stops dating his wife or gf soon finds himself single. This "I can do it but you can't do it" ideology has yall completely washed smh.

I think it’s so funny that WM with BW don’t have the same things to say about black women being hard to deal with. But you always see non black women complaining about the same issues with Bm that BW have with them.

@moneylineparlay105

Жыл бұрын

Wm don't deal with y'all in any significant way

@BlkMedusa

Жыл бұрын

@@moneylineparlay105 wym I’m married to a WM

@niratomas579

Жыл бұрын

Non black women get the same BM!🤷🏽‍♀️

@Shaylala19937

Жыл бұрын

@@moneylineparlay105My 2 sisters and I are the product of a marriage between a white man and a Black woman. So….

@damnkevindeaderthanamf6068

Жыл бұрын

@@moneylineparlay105 I'm married to a white man so 🤔

Basically, they’re looking for a mail order brides with curbside pick up but at a discount 😂😂😂

@LoneWulf278

Жыл бұрын

Not curbside pick-up 😂

@Goddess_Infinity

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@didyallseethat499

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelputin28 not really 🤷🏽‍♀️ Why would I compete for something that I don’t want… you gotta think, sir 🤦🏽‍♀️

@Goddess_Infinity

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelputin28 No one wants to compete with them for a broke incel dusty. They can have y’all . 🤮 Y’all men pay street hoes for sex 🤢, because you cant get it from the women you actually want it from . Same concept, and it’s sad and pathetic to be frank .

@Goddess_Infinity

Жыл бұрын

@@didyallseethat499 That part !!!!

I'm a brazilian woman and been interacting with US culture trough internet for some years and the way black man treats black women is so wild, like i know women are hated but i don't know where this specifically hate come from, it's a pattern i see in the internet and always the discourse of feminism destroying black family unit, anyways i don't know if they're trying to approach Brazilian black women but it's good to be aware of this movement

@Lena-ks7pn

Жыл бұрын

@MSA Nothing to do with feminism . There is alot of BM (Black men) are trying to use women for their resources along with 2nd mommies and trust they taken those behaviors over to Brazil / Columbia . They looking to run the same game on unsuspected foreign women. In the US alot of black men create kids and abandon them to the mothers . This pattern is also showing up in other communities of other races here in the US that black men try to run through other races of women in the US . In the US alot of black men create kids and abandon them to the mothers without any further care in the world

@RichBoy-dc2dq

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry. Passport bros have a rule to not date Brazilian women who speak English because they tend to think like American feminist.....so you're "safe" from the passport bros.

@zerotolerance2026

Жыл бұрын

@@RichBoy-dc2dq Good! Now scram!!!✈️✈️✈️

@brotherNegus

Жыл бұрын

...no they not in Brazil looking for the same type of women in the states

@longbeach225

Жыл бұрын

@@RichBoy-dc2dq Exactly she maybe Brazilian background but MSA is not a REAL Brazilian. She is a American not Brazilian.

“The passport bros - this entire thing does not work without grossly inequitable home lives- if those women had leverage, if they had power, they would not be desirable” Kim, this is a WORD and such a powerful observation! THIS IS THE KEY, THE CRUX, of this entire movement. The fact that these men don’t realize this is incredibly telling…

@zerotolerance2026

Жыл бұрын

This is why they hate “modern American women”.

@moneylineparlay105

Жыл бұрын

If men in the United States had leverage, most of y’all would be undesirable.

@hunadimakgatho3403

Жыл бұрын

Slavery basically...

@acertainslantoflight

Жыл бұрын

They are exposing themselves as predators

@dkt4377

Жыл бұрын

The average woman that a passport bros encounter is fit, feminine, and cooperative... that's her power/leverage that makes them attractive.

The idea of traveling to find a mate and not the intrinsic fulfillment that comes from traveling is weird to me. If you meet someone...fine...but I can't imagine booking a trip with an ulterior motive of manipulating a vulnerable person

@moneylineparlay105

Жыл бұрын

You are a female, you don’t live a male experience

My trip to Colombia was the first time I’ve ever seen large groups of black men traveling together 😂 they were all in the clubs in vip and the women were trying hard to get their attention. Looked like a music video, and the women were definitely beautiful and the men were 👹There was probably 10 girls for every 1 guy I can definitely see why they do it. I’m always hesitant to date a man that’s been to Colombia, and I know it’s irrational but I can’t unsee what I saw 😢

@SCFLEUR

Жыл бұрын

Everywhere they go the sully the image of said place 😑

@BlackberryTitties

Жыл бұрын

They go there for the Transformers!! 😂😂😂😂

@leila_de_hautjardin

Жыл бұрын

There's something else about men who have been to Columbia. Have you seen the Vice documentary about donkeys ? 🤢 Edit : For all of those who don't know what's up with men and donkeys in Columbia, don't look it up. No seriously, don't.

@EspritsFantomes

Жыл бұрын

For me it’s Thaïland. Where I live Thailand is popular. A guy who went to Thailand with a group of guys or alone? Suspicious 😂😂

@leila_de_hautjardin

Жыл бұрын

@@EspritsFantomes Same. Here in France it's associated with sex tourism. Not that it's the only thing to do there. But when you hear a guy who never goes to the museum, reads etc. tells you that he goes to Thailand for the culture and to visit temples, it's hard to believe.

LET THEM GO 👋🏿

@amgofficial7791

Жыл бұрын

ikr?! tha st. lunatic prophet, nelly said it best: "Dropdown and get ur eagle on, boy"... im over these types of conversations...hahaha...

@shagans6701

Жыл бұрын

@@amgofficial7791 ISAIAH 4:1 And in that day seven women will take hold of one man, saying, “We will eat our own food and wear [and provide] our own clothes; only let us be called by your name; take away our shame [of being unmarried].”

@guinealove3744

Жыл бұрын

@@shagans6701 Quoting from the bible eh? Seems quite convenient. Men hung out with JC until it came time to stand by him. Instead, one snitched on him, another turned chicken, whilst the others just hid in the bushes. As I recall, didn't women watch him take his last breath, and went looking for him whilst the disciples were hiding? They did make sure to write how cool he was..afterwards. Please don't go there. Thanks

This is such a great conversation. Your discussion of passport bos reminded of the 1990s in Eastern Europe when all these American men came to find wives and these women would end up in very precarious conditions. I love your take on this!

@nogodsnomasters6963

Жыл бұрын

The 90s huh? Gotta correct you here, that never actually stopped, it's also happening TODAY. And it's not just American men. It's euro men too, big time, all going to countries in Eastern Europe, Asia, Africa, south America, looking for "traditional" women. I've even met some men like those , and hoboi do i feel bad for the women they idealize.

@pdg23

Жыл бұрын

@@nogodsnomasters6963 very well said

@damnkevindeaderthanamf6068

Жыл бұрын

@@nogodsnomasters6963 look at Brazil 😂it's so praised and visited yet these women single moms like CRAZYYYY

@icelugedoctor

Жыл бұрын

Precarious? Most found themselves in better living situations. The ones who found themselves in bad situations are the ones who went for “work” not marriage.

NB: As to the bm "rejecting me", all I have to say, is: I dont dream of labour. I dont dream of cooking everyday, do most of the chores, raise children mostly alone, stay in shape AND be available for s3x on demand. I do not dream of being (mis)used, despised and dehumanised.

@CornellG

Жыл бұрын

As a feminist, an old fashion man and yourself wouldn’t naturally mesh. Nothing wrong with that. Only a man who doesn’t agree with old fashion roles would sync with you.

@submissiveproviderstboth9485

Жыл бұрын

@@CornellG old fashioned equates ABUSIVE, GOT IT 😂

@TheCasou

Жыл бұрын

@@CornellG who thought you those old fashion ways? We know Black men in America had never played a major role in building family, in building wealth. There are documentaries from the 50s and 60s that show it. Black women keep getting told a myth, the myth of a patriarchal past

@CornellG

Жыл бұрын

@@TheCasou My upbringing. Grandma, grandpa, uncles, parents, etc. I work in finance so building wealth is within my DNA. Building family has always been a goal of mine as family is the foundation. My wife and future children will be well taken care of. Not all black men are the same.

@CornellG

Жыл бұрын

@@submissiveproviderstboth9485 Old fashion for a man equates to providing and protecting his family. Something I’m able to afford daily. Is that not a trait you want for a spouse? Would you rather be the provider and protector?

As I'm reading these articles you suggested I have come to realize why it has been incredibly difficult for me to date black men. On the apps especially I tend to allow more space and do not stick as stringently to my deal breakers with regards to black men and men of color. And still no interest. The few times at black men have actually approached me in public it has been aggressive and angry, often insulting. I remember one time I was working at my second job at target, and a black man was hitting on me, which is typically a non-starter for me. Don't hit on people at work, it's predatory. But I was being polite and respectful to him, I even laughed at his jokes. He kept speaking coded language though, I guess trying to be slick, and was ultimately frustrated with me because I was being polite and professional and not responding in the overtly sexual way I think he wanted me to. He got visibly angry after I finished checking him out and stomped away. When I asked him what was wrong, he just yelled at me. My experience with dating over the past 7 years is that many black men have created a narrative in their mind that paints black women as the betrayer, and their enemy. I just don't have the energy for it. I can't do more work for folks than they will do for themselves. And if people don't want to work on themselves but instead want to externalize all of their trauma and grief, they're never going to be satisfied with anyone.

@Cng215

Жыл бұрын

Now you don't have to worry about them. Throw your hands up and celebrate 🍾 🙌 they are done with bw so not your problem anymore

@Lena-ks7pn

Жыл бұрын

Chile it is not you .Open yourself to dating other races because majority of BM do not know how to court or date a woman properly. I seen way too many bm that throw tantrums when you tell them NO ( for dating) . Most of them need therapy and are not worth the headaches or trouble they bring

@Heyu7her3

Жыл бұрын

That's a grown toddler.

@brotherNegus

Жыл бұрын

....stop the cap, I saw your pic. We know the real reason it's "hard for you to date black men"

@mrdino5101

Жыл бұрын

@@brotherNegus I was just about to say....

I think both sides of this passport bros thing are gross, condescending, annoying towards women in other countries and generally people of other countries and cultures. It seems a very eurocentric, colonialist type view of the rest of the world. Anyway in general passport bros are very mistaken if they think women in other countries have no standards and will take anything they throw at them which seems to be their general mentality.

@morgansubtilis6852

Жыл бұрын

I think plenty of people in the US have seen these marriages between a richer, older American dude (of whatever ethnicity) and brides from much poorer countries. You are correct that the women are not always doormats -- but they are often enough that *that* is the reason these men go for it.

@Heyu7her3

Жыл бұрын

@@ReesieDenise wdym, passport bros don't marry

@Ashley-bm9gc

Жыл бұрын

@@morgansubtilis6852 I think it mostly works for the men that have a consistent stream of income to maintain the submission of their foreign wives. The ones that see oppurtunities to make more money either by themselves or by partnering with a more financially stable partner dip at the first sign of financial trouble. Especially when they realise the US is not the land of milk and honey.

What's not to love about smart, informed, thoughtful, funny, clever black women? Good show.

@Harold10ful

Жыл бұрын

That is not what the PPB's issues are and you know it.

@r.walker7986

Жыл бұрын

@@Harold10ful I could care less about them, That was a compliment on the the woman behind the show.

@hotstreak9805

Жыл бұрын

They become leftovers because they're angry 304 and not wife material

@brotherNegus

Жыл бұрын

....I don't know but it's not looking too good

@r.walker7986

Жыл бұрын

@@eliottlindsey40 Time for guys to admit their obsession with "marriage" is more about the fact that they don't have the ability to consistently get attention from attractive women or get regular sex instead of genuinely valuing the institution or family. Stop the gaslighting.

I used to live in SE Asia...White American men and European men have been "finding traditional and/or meek" wives, girlfriends, or easy sex for decades! I lived in Bangkok for about 3 years, no one blinks an eye when a young Thai woman is with a man 30 years her senior. It benefits her (and her family), as marriage to a foreigner with a "strong" passport, provides a higher quality of life. But the Western man has to have **resources** money, social security, a pension, property, and/or well paying job. If they think Black American women are materialistic and gold diggers, phew going to Asia thinking women will just accept a man "as is" is foolishness. Marriage is a business, many families expect a dowry, want proof of wealth (deeds of property, tax returns, pay stubs, bank statements), and expect a husband to take care of the wife and her family. Sadly, Black American men wouldn't be able to afford a wife (andher family)...or would be accepted as a good match by most Asian families who focus on legacy, wealth, and status. Either way, left over Black American men are catching up to what Western Caucasian men have been doing for a long time....but with few resources.

@nathanj3665

Жыл бұрын

@Angela Do you really believe all that you just wrote. There are many, many,many bm with resources.@Angela Do you really believe all that you just wrote. There are many, many,many bm with resources in America. Countless in the corporate world. It's just that we have too much options to want to get married. An untold litter of beautiful wmen to always have and choose from. I'll tell you why we have so much options? Because from the sub par looking, average lookin (like this Kimberley) , good looking to stunning looking w'men want us types of men. Then also add the educated wman, the rich wman, the broke w'man also want us pool of men. And here lies the problem. No need to ever get married or settle till wear are ready and well spent in life. And even then we can still use money to keep our options still available to us.

@Chambermenz

Жыл бұрын

That part

@Shaylala19937

Жыл бұрын

Passport bros haven’t watched nair an episode of 90 Fiancé and it shows 😂😂😂😂

@Lena-ks7pn

Жыл бұрын

This right here is a word. I also spent some time in Asia region . Us Black Women dont got nothing on these Asian women as far as gold digging. We are lambs( BW) vs crocs (Asian women) in terms of gold digging . I had some enlightening convos with these chicks about men . They need to teach a class. lol

@charleskeyessr4288

Жыл бұрын

I can pay $2000 in Fl for a apt. or $400 in SE Asia for a luxury Condo. and get a beautiful woman and food for another $600......

So basically they want "traditional" women who don't ask for accountability and are ok with them doing the bare minimum... and they are using old tropes to hide their real intentions. Is not black women fault they can't compete and step up.

@Heyu7her3

Жыл бұрын

They want "traditional women who sex them without marriage or without paying dowry (if that's required)" 🤔

@shagans6701

Жыл бұрын

@@Heyu7her3 I think we just want functional woman, and woman want functional men. Right now we have dysfunction and most losing virginity before a life plan is ever played out, we allow our children to have boyfriend, girlfriend relationships as young as elementary, instead of making sure they have an economic plan to compete in the real adult world/ society, it's self sabotage in the name of emotion and feelings.

Black men are garnering a worldwide disrespect. You cannot hate yourself, willfully destroy your own and be accepted elsewhere. Maybe as a joke or amusement but respect is not a possibility from here. It’s the fool in proverbs 😭

@dnycebushton5008

Жыл бұрын

Ikr...dumb. Just silly

@brotherNegus

Жыл бұрын

Nah... bros just out here on vacay having a blast lmao

@everlyngathoni3027

Жыл бұрын

@@brotherNegus if you insist

@brotherNegus

Жыл бұрын

@@everlyngathoni3027 ok let's have a real conversation. Why do soooo many women in america have sex and children out of wedlock. I think that's a good starting point

@brotherNegus

Жыл бұрын

...is it fair or correct to say that in america the percentages of women without children are vastly disproportionate to the percentages of Men without children?

As a feminist, I care about migrant wives getting an education about their rights here in the West (and getting more rights, if necessary). They need clear and safe ways to exit the situation, if necessary.

@fa_abdi3001

Жыл бұрын

I think with internet and smartphone so wide spread globally, these girls have more chances that those mail order bride from the 90s. The passport bros are too ignorant to seek women in the dept of a village. They will stop in the main cities and those places between a Nigerian Prince and a global scam, will go to US with the sole purpose to get better opportunities and help their family and grew her daughters to be independent and fearless

@lightel652

Жыл бұрын

Hey as a feminist, also. "Feminist unite" I also care about these migrant wives having a mind of their own and choosing to not get an education, cause they know the education system is trash.

@AlyssaMakesArt

Жыл бұрын

“The West” will not provide everything for these women and it might be helpful for your feminism journey to examine why you view “the East’ as a homogenous, backwards place that doesn’t allow women reasonable access to education. Especially considering by different metrics including education many women are doing better (by various metrics) in places outside of “the west.”

@moneylineparlay105

Жыл бұрын

We don't bring them back here lol

@moustik31

Жыл бұрын

@@AlyssaMakesArt Again, wish, people would just take the time to read what I actually read before answering. Whatever you understood isnt what I wrote. 🙄

My uncle Is a passport bro. 65 married a 23 year old girl from the Philippines. He’s no catch, 5 divorces under his belt. She’s his retirement plan, it’s really disgusting.

@SCFLEUR

Жыл бұрын

Oh Lawd. In his big age he’s still acting the ass. Don’t worry, when that young woman gets her footing she will leave. She’s not trying to be a hospice wife.

@asmrcity3147

Жыл бұрын

Damn

@aesanonymous8936

Жыл бұрын

Five divorces is a lot, did the woman initiate each one?🤣

@shopece8807

Жыл бұрын

Wow, he has a guaranteed live-in nurse for the next 10-20 yrs **if he makes it**.

@LoveLaRieXO

Жыл бұрын

@@shopece8807 No he is not. It’s her husband, not her baby. If she is smart she won’t make any with grandpa. She is gonna be out. Jokes on them

I love that black men are leaving. I just want them to stay gone and to stop talking shit about us. Also leave us divestors alone

@hild-demongoddess7498

Жыл бұрын

Facts!!

@Lisa-em6ed

Жыл бұрын

Girl they up in here arguing the women in the comments but swear they hate our existence, yet they always manage to find our spaces .

@Queennyla16

Жыл бұрын

This is not a divester space sis

It's not the toll of rejection, it's the toll of entitlement.

@MsMizz1

Жыл бұрын

☝🏾 that part

@thatguy9088

Жыл бұрын

Uh huh. "Hey Alexa, what's the rate of paternal fraud in America?" "32%."

@Cng215

Жыл бұрын

@@thatguy9088 35%

@sophon238

Жыл бұрын

we are all entitled, you feel entitled to men as well.

@TheDarkAdventure

Жыл бұрын

@@Cng215 @That Guy and that is just the men who asked for tests

A self-titled "passport bro" was just set up in Columbia. As soon as he exited the Taxi to his destination, the girl he was coming to meet had him robbed at gunpoint & several men stole everything on his person. I think we call that justice. Is it justice? It feels like justice to me LOL safe travels. I love that for them.

@TheDCbiz

Жыл бұрын

How is that justice?

@nikimd7833

Жыл бұрын

I love this song!!!

@BremiiXO

Жыл бұрын

Like you wanna go to these countries and take advantage of these women 🤷🏾‍♀️ you can’t be mad when they take advantage of you lmao

@CadillacBoss30

Жыл бұрын

It's sad that you think that someone getting robbed at gunpoint is ok just cause you don't like them.

@bronzebomber814

Жыл бұрын

Passport bros are going to see that living in abject poverty a woman will do anything or one to get out but let them figure it out for themselves..be safe out there I hear those international streets are wilder than anything stateside

Honestly blk men showing their true colors has made it a lot easier to accept advances from other races of men. It was hard at first but being desired the way I want to be desired…. How can I not like that??😮‍💨

@gregoriopassport

Жыл бұрын

Based on dating site data other races of men not really checking for blacks...

@Lena-ks7pn

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelputin28 I get plenty as well as a BW . You will deal as BM .

@Lisa-em6ed

Жыл бұрын

@@Lena-ks7pnthey hate black women so much but yet stay in our content and spaces. Make it make sense 😂

@tessy28

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelputin28 I've gotten attention from and dated all races of men, black, Asian, Hispanic and European. My current partner will probably be my husband as he has told me he plans to propose at soon. He is Polish. Plenty of bw have options they have just never considered them out of some misguided loyalty to bm until now. Now bw are choosing whoever they want, however they want.

@OP-er9tm

Жыл бұрын

Y’all not dating anyone cope

Polarity (femininity and masculinity) is the lazy man’s answer to figuring out who complements you in a relationship.

@brotherNegus

Жыл бұрын

What your husband think....

I know some Bros had a chill go down their spine when you mentioned creating laws to protect these economic migrants they bring over here 🤣

@aesanonymous8936

Жыл бұрын

As they should and we should apply even more laws because these women historically have been easily abused compared to women with citizenship in the country.

@moustik31

Жыл бұрын

They should be laws. Too many stories of migrants being locked in, having their passports kept away from them and being forced to work from dawn to dusk. This is akin to slavery.

@gregoriopassport

Жыл бұрын

I don't think the passport bros are wanting to bring the women back. They will travel there, have families there, and many are talking working remotely and living in foreign countries.

@lamar1990lg

Жыл бұрын

Creating laws just shows you're defeated and you running to White Daddy the same man that took Roe vs Wade away lol

@moustik31

Жыл бұрын

@@lamar1990lg BS.

I really wish women would stop responding to these men..it just give them clout when they rant about women being mad they have decided to go elsewhere..if we really don’t care then we have to stop talking about it..the moon does not bark at the dog..just let them go in peace ✋🏾

@dnycebushton5008

Жыл бұрын

exactly...the feeling is mutual as a mfer.

@sailormoongoon90

Жыл бұрын

A word! Amen.

I’m the son of a passport bro. What most of you fail to realize is the passport bro movement started with black military men. Most passport bros have military background. A lot have no kids or kids are grown. Some have retirement pensions and work remotely from anywhere. A lot are in IT field and usually make 6 figures. It’s common to see 30 year old IT guys making 6 figures like my cousins. My brother who is retired military has a pension for the rest of his life and just turned 39 with 20 years of service. He is a passport bro in Thailand. As much as folks want to label the movement about women it’s more about a lifestyle that may include women. My brother got offered $180K for a IT job in Miami. He turned it down for a complete remote job making $130K and moved to Thailand where cost of living is cheaper. So these passport bros are making moves for economic reasons also. When they speak it’s about showing other men how they live and how they were able to have this lifestyle.

@tam6011

Жыл бұрын

I would agree with you if that was in message in terms of jobs and cost of living. However that’s is never in the message. Most people in IT make 100k to 300k. If it’s about your money stretching it would be hey get a job here these are skills you need. I haven’t seen that story. Everyone needs to thrive in life.

@VeteranNomad

Жыл бұрын

@@tam6011 I said it’s a lifestyle and women are a part not the main reason. You don’t have to agree because you only talking from what you see. I’m telling you as someone who interact with actual passport bros so I think I know what I’m saying. Why make $300K and stay in the US with inflation when you can go overseas and operate off the strength of the USD? Why stay in Cali making $300K when you can move to Mexico and save more of your money? 🤦🏾‍♂️ There are also tax incentives. I sat in on a few passport bros zoom conferences about tax strategies, getting digital nomad visas, purchasing real estate, forex and IT jobs. The fact of the matter is there are a lot of 6&7 figure guys with their stuff together in the passport bro movement.

@tam6011

Жыл бұрын

@CamsWorld what I am saying to is what men are saying online isn't what you saying. Trust me I know plenty of military men overseas with women. Been around around them all my life but what you see online and words they speak thats not what they saying. People do what they want. I don't care. I debating your point on what is said online. That's it.

@VeteranNomad

Жыл бұрын

@@tam6011 You are debating based upon a snippet. There are a large amount of Passport bros that do not like the US system and they talk about it all the time. Some have issues with women. Some take advantage of tax breaks you can get from working overseas. Some do not want to be married in the US because of US laws. You are trying to simplify the movement about BW because of what you heard. I know you don’t care because I’m telling what the movement about and you are telling me about snippets to make it a gender war. 🤦🏾‍♂️

@tam6011

Жыл бұрын

@@VeteranNomad no I debating based her snippet. Her snippet even in this convo. Look I have worked in IT overseas I understand. I have gotten tax credits. I get 96k tax free. Free housing. Free food. Doing less. I get the marriage advantage or what they call it pu**y pay. What I am saying to you is I don’t see that convo amongst the masses. I know all IT doors where you can triple the money than in the states. IT folks with clearances have been doing that before 2011.

Its wild that these men would rather go to these lengths to find women they can manipulate and control rather than just.....be better men and grown ass adults, mature and act right so that women of their peer-groups would accept them as partners. Sheesh.

@nikkih4692

Жыл бұрын

Also, they are sooo happy to consider themselves as "Traditional Men" when they can't provide the way traditional men historically have. These poor foreign girls are going to be expected to accommodate and do 80% of the household labor AND work fulltime, and if they don't simply oblige these jerks will gleefully pull out the "green card" bluff. These "passport bros" are straight parasitic.

@zerotolerance2026

Жыл бұрын

@@nikkih4692 Right! Now they can’t use money and marriage to trap women here in America . Now it’s the green card.😂

The fact that my ex let me for a mail order bride and is now overweight and miserable….😂 But, she’s overweight too so I guess he had to match her energy 🥴🤷🏽‍♀️ When he said he wanted to break up, I didn’t argue with him or anything. I told him to do what he needed to do to be happy. Next thing I know, he’s online with a chick from Iceland and her baby by another bm. Smh I was like, really?! But I never wanted him back. Not even for a second. Just wish I hadn’t wasted my time.

@tessy28

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a mid life crisis happened to him lol be glad that mess is no longer your problem

@hotstreak9805

Жыл бұрын

what did you do wrong in the marriage for him wanting to divorce you?

@Bri-nc8yp

Жыл бұрын

@@hotstreak9805 You have poor reading comprehension skills like most black men. She said the word "break up" which would imply she dated him only. She never said "divorce" which would indicate marriage. Also, who cares what she did or did not do. The man said he wanted his freedom and she granted it to him so he can marry and take care of a white single mother. When BM want to go BW should let them go..who cares about the reason why he wants to go.

Kimberly, you look stunning!

@anisaskcirmoht57

Жыл бұрын

Yes, gorgeous 😍

@brotherNegus

Жыл бұрын

🤥

I love that she pointed out that a lot of these are leftover men that nobody wanted anyway. Nobody was signing up for their particular brand of partnership; nobody desired what they brought to the table….so they are going where they think they’ll have a better chance 🤷🏽‍♀️….👋🏾✌🏾 poor tink…Good Luck!

@Nygnotyogf

Жыл бұрын

Not "tink".......lol.

@debrabelton3161

Жыл бұрын

No one is getting married, men nor women. Are the women "left-over?"

@sheh.9163

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelputin28 they invite commentary, criticism and ridicule by constantly speaking about it while also disparaging blk women. Be for real

@ERoss338

Жыл бұрын

Damn that sounds like coping.

@sheh.9163

Жыл бұрын

@@debrabelton3161 Keep up Debra….women are increasing opting out of marriage. Meanwhile these men who desire the type of marriage that no one wants are choosing to go overseas to “find it”

Girl I almost spat out my tea when you said "don't threaten me with a good time" ..lmfaooooo

@user-lx8bb8et6d

6 ай бұрын

That was my favorite statement of this video. 😅

It's not that the guys hate these "hard" jobs, it's that they hate not being exhalted for having them. That's my dad. Wants all the cookies for back breaking stuff when we tell him to just chill instead. I don't wanna worship my dad dude.

@yourroyallioness6607

Жыл бұрын

I’m not so mad at a man for wanting praise and kudos for doing “back breaking work.” Traditionally, this is what men did and because he did so (and she didn’t HAVE to), was worthy of the love, care and devotion of a provided for wife. Notice I said provided for and wife, not slave that is hardly given a thought about. Nowadays, msn want to be praised for the most basic and common place duties that they take on. They do this, not even understanding that women work “hard duty” jobs, plus complete the most basic and common duties, daily. This is especially so, if you are a BW, across the diaspora. I find that so many BM can’t handle typical everyday tasks, such as holding a basic conversation or eye contact. Many don’t know how to speak up for themselves or articulate themselves to express a thought, idea, suggestion, etc. Let me also state that being articulate doesn’t mean that your speech must be flawless and perfect English, French, etc. Men nowadays, lack the confidence and desire to even respectfully woo and court a woman. Traditionally, it wasn’t such a bad thing if a man was short on words because he was overwhelmed by a woman’s beauty and grace. He still was able to speak sweetly, gentle and kind to her because that’s the communication and feelings that he wanted to express. These disgusting brute beast, nowadays… everything that comes out of their mouths is harsh, sexual related, and downright destructive and or demonic. Don’t catch a glimpse into the eyes of some of them, because you will be looking directly at a demon. You know something is extremely wrong with a man who says that he desires a woman, but uses his mouth and hands to destroy her. I could go on and on, but I think the point has been made. Brute beast are just a turn off; unless of course, you are the type of woman who desires that type of relationship. If you do, there is something seriously broken within you and therapy should be the option.

Coming from someone who lives in the Caribbean, good luck to these “passport bros”. Idk where what island they’re going to specifically but I find that people aren’t dieing to go to America. If they do, they shipping barrels home to their families and sending money home to build their. The same house they will retire in.

@RickyTPB4L

Жыл бұрын

We not bringing them back 🤣

@RichBoy-dc2dq

Жыл бұрын

These men are leaving America. Meaning they will not bring any women back because they now live in that country.

@hotstreak9805

Жыл бұрын

Are you panic coping because of competition anxiety? 🤣

@sepharcallwood2422

Жыл бұрын

@@RickyTPB4L exactly!

@Bri-nc8yp

Жыл бұрын

@@hotstreak9805 competition anxiety? There are about 3 billion men in the word if someone has anxiety about getting a man then they have issues. The world is large place... BW only need to step out side of their box and open up their dating options.

Agreed! Whenever a PB would post how BW are pressed because they are "winning", my response is always that (most) BW really don't care. Just leave us out of your discourse. EGADS! The BM I know that travel and live abroad, left in search of adventure to build consultancies and would never speak ill of a BW. Truth be told, they credit their moms for inspiring them to grow. It's so embarrassing!!!!! Why does their message have to disparage women. For jimmy cricketts...leave but leave us in peace.

After a recent experience with a passport bro I do know many of them are looking for places where they can express sexual deviancy and I’ll leave it at that.

@Shaylala19937

Жыл бұрын

Facts on facts on facts. Most of them aren’t marrying. They’re just making more single mothers in other countries.

@Lena-ks7pn

Жыл бұрын

oh of course , all in the name to exploit women in those counties. We can safely say about 95 percent of BM aka Passport Bros have bad intentions brewing

@sdothoward2743

Жыл бұрын

They don't have to leave America to find the Succubus

@chey6073

Жыл бұрын

EXACTLY! Look at where they’re going! It’s places where the US dollar stretches the most and where sex tourism is incredibly common

@Ricoyoung-ju1fj

9 ай бұрын

Now it seems that all of the black women who had a conversation with a passport bro is in this chatroom caring about men, they say they didn’t want us doing what is wrong jo more dinners dates or step daddy season is over

We don't care! The universe will deal with them. They don't represent us. We are our best representation of who we are. And we are REPRESENTING!!!!! You are so well spoken and beautiful.

@shagans6701

Жыл бұрын

ISAIAH 4:1 And in that day seven women will take hold of one man, saying, “We will eat our own food and wear [and provide] our own clothes; only let us be called by your name; take away our shame [of being unmarried].”

Passport bros gives tlc spin-off

@submissiveproviderstboth9485

Жыл бұрын

Property Bros VS Passport Bros 😂

My attitude is “do you, boo!” We’ll see how this all plays out 10-20 years from now. 🤷🏾‍♀️

@moneylineparlay105

Жыл бұрын

Happiness, with sons we are able to raise, no parental alienation by the evil united States government and a legacy that the West can't destroy.

@lifeisfunny6486

Жыл бұрын

@@moneylineparlay105 so why are you on an American womans comment section move on you weed yourself out of any meaningful conversation. Go raise those sons but I'll be sorry for him when he realize what being a child from a black man really mean. Wherever you go there you are

@delle3955

Жыл бұрын

Their "movement" is going to age like milk!🍼

@moneylineparlay105

Жыл бұрын

@@delle3955 lol, keep wishing.

@dnycebushton5008

Жыл бұрын

Child support & alimony for everybody!!! Go Girls...get all the $$$!

Talking about accessibility… my French Canadian/American coworker is on his third international marriage. He pays alimony to the first wife. Child support and $600k divorce to the second wife so she won’t ask for alimony. His third/current wife he’s building a house for in Thailand where she’s from so that she can return home when he passes away… BM don’t have the foresight nor the capital to do the same.

@ayanomar1408

Жыл бұрын

my dad worked in a french company and almost half of the white french men he worked with were married to south east asian women because like they said “french women are hard to deal with” but we all knew ehat he ment was “other women are on to my BS”

@StoicEver

Жыл бұрын

His mistake was marrying again after the first one failed.

The ending of this video you hit the nail on the head. The social awkwardness no emotional intelligence is not it. There is an arrested development with a lot men. So many things to contribute to this.

@shagans6701

Жыл бұрын

ISAIAH 4:1 And in that day seven women will take hold of one man, saying, “We will eat our own food and wear [and provide] our own clothes; only let us be called by your name; take away our shame [of being unmarried].”

If the Black manosphere is FINALLY the reason why straight bm start using condoms, I'll take it as a win. We've been through an HIV/AIDS pandemic for decades, the amount of unprotected s3x still happening is scary.

@zee-zm1io

Жыл бұрын

A win is a win!

@hatkingempire6286

Жыл бұрын

Lmfao like y’all can’t say no to sex. Coming from a bw most of y’all own these bm to sleep with y’all unprotected then cry wolf.

@brotherNegus

Жыл бұрын

I'm telling you!! Black women been thru EVERYTHING.. except marriage

@Ching-ii1ib

Жыл бұрын

@@brotherNegus😂

I had a conversation with a self proclaimed 6-figure passport bro and he was so strange. It was very obvious he was on the spectrum or if he wasn’t, his social skills were incredibly low. It was interesting he kept blaming black American women for having “unrealistic standards” but he had no self awareness, the charisma of a blank wall, and was boring

@BillionaireMusk

Жыл бұрын

So that was a lie😂 he makes six figures and he was just on the spectrum ? Which is it? Why would he meet you if he was a passport bro? He would be out of the country looking for non black women ya liar

@Bri-nc8yp

Жыл бұрын

@@BillionaireMusk Black men have reading comprehension and you proved it...she never said he made six figures (how can she confirm this she was talking with a stranger) she said he CLAIMED to make six figures but how he was presenting himself she doubts it. Just like how most BM in the comments section claim they are all alpha males and multi-millionares living their best lives with instagram baddies but they stay in the comments section all day arguing with women.

@jamesmanter8731

Жыл бұрын

Could it be he was a rich man who could care less what your opinion or interaction because he thought of you as a very low value American woman?

@biboebbs624

10 ай бұрын

@@jamesmanter8731autism

If a man in their 30s is online looking for dates its not because they are good romantic partners. Those often have intimacy issues as well as others. Its a problematic crowd.

@ninagrace-lee8323

Жыл бұрын

Yes and no. I think it truly depends. My current bf was on Tinder when we met. He’s no perfect guy, but he’s a very good man who adores me. I see quite a few guys who are doing okay financially but live in big cities where the competition is fierce. Most of those guys eventually give up online dating because of the skewed gender ratio though. So I’ll concede to that EDIT: I would say financial issue issues is the #1 reason why women pass over these guys. They may make decent money but they’re not making like, 400k a year.

@Boahemaa

Жыл бұрын

@@ninagrace-lee8323 I doubt the financial issue as the number 1 issue. I think its only a problem, because most women expect the man to have some other issues like lacking empathy or being inconsiderate and so will compromise on the lack of these things for expensive gifts and financial comfort. But of course as we can see the richest men in the world get divorced multiple times its not enough. I even suspect the Cardi Bs and City Girls of the world would take a man who makes a decent living and makes them feel secure in the relationship over their men. Unfortunately all men have bought into the idea that women are to be owned and controlled. Less than a quarter of all Americans earn four hundred thousand dollars a year. Seems like all the men want to date the two women who want billionaires.

@ninagrace-lee8323

Жыл бұрын

@@Boahemaa I disagree. I think many women would not opt for a man who makes less because he doesn’t fit their lifestyle and needs. There is no security and quite a few women have expressed they don’t see a reason to be with a man who can’t make them feel more secure, especially considering all the labor we do in relationships/marriages. I think it’s why many women are choosing to be single, it’s simply less work. Even *poor men are still a lot of work.

@debrabelton3161

Жыл бұрын

Approximately 1.8% of men make $400k. I doubt that those guys are in dating apps.

@Boahemaa

Жыл бұрын

@@debrabelton3161 thanks for clarifying it's even less. Money is a stand in for the lack of community and support. Why tolerate a broke narcissist?

Passport bro's are finding happiness with women that appreciate them. Kudos..

@ladybug3380

Жыл бұрын

We’re very happy for you guys!

@brooklyndecember

Жыл бұрын

Yea. Because like Kim said, wtf business of mine someone stuck in a developing nation looking for a way out has to do with me? We have very lives.

@gregoriopassport

Жыл бұрын

These backhanded comments are the best...lol

@ladybug3380

Жыл бұрын

@@gregoriopassport how are they backhanded? I personally encourage men to find happiness, as long as it’s not hurting anyone else. If a group of men aren’t happy with women in their country then they should look elsewhere.

@thetruesoulofanaquarius9302

Жыл бұрын

Nah they appreciate that future green card.

This is so odd to me bc none of this is about relationships, marriage etc… it’s about black men committing sex crimes. And we shouldn’t down play it as “tricking”. This is super serious stuff and idk why black women content creators aren’t treating it as such. This isn’t about “I’m not jealous, they’re undesirable men, those poor women can have them”. These are serious crimes of predators preying on vulnerable women & promoting sexual tourism to more degenerate black American men, putting these women in danger, who are most likely underage. This is horrifying.

@icelugedoctor

Жыл бұрын

What crimes?

@anthonynelson4015

9 ай бұрын

There is no undesirable men just undesirable women 😂😅😅😂

The main topic of the video starts at 14:09

@vsboardza

Жыл бұрын

You're an angel thank you

@roseopl7

Жыл бұрын

I scrolled and scrolled for this lol. Thanks

Let them go lol these men are not among the type that I would want to engage with or build a life with, not a loss. Blessings and luck to the women who choose them!

@CornellG

Жыл бұрын

Hmm, and there goes the irony. Being a passport bro means you’re making a certain amount of money. There has been a large complaint about the lack of black men who can afford marriage and a household. Only 2% of black men under 40 make $100k. So if half of that 2% is going overseas, it affects the community.

@mif4111

Жыл бұрын

@@CornellG this is my issue. Money is not all that women want. What these men are describing as a good marriage sounds like misery to me. It’s like master trying to convince me that slavery is better than freedom and then trying to demonize me as if I’m wrong for wanting freedom by showing me all the slaves he can get. It’s not appealing. Some of these BM demonize modern women in the black community with this fantasy of how it use to be in the 50s when that was not black Americans reality. It’s 2023 I’m all about progression which should be the focus especially for black Americans. It’s like these men want to go back to the day we were “strange fruit” instead of worrying about mental health and decreasing the wealth gap. Smh

@CornellG

Жыл бұрын

@@mif4111 You say that relationships have progressed but the majority of women still want a man who makes more than her and is a provider and protector. Roles that are old fashion for men. Modern women cannot say they want a old fashion man, yet want an old fashion man not to want an old fashion woman. Those things don’t mix. Money affords men the possibility to afford a household and consider marriage. The problem is there are a handful of modern women who are now older and regret not getting married to a man of means. They’re tired of having to always pay and always work for themselves. Look at the recent Taraji interview. The older you get, the more important family becomes. What type of men can afford marriage and a household, a man of decent means. Hence why money is fundamental to progressing of the family structure.

@mif4111

Жыл бұрын

@@CornellG sir that is your perspective. You keep bringing it back to money. Let me give you 2 examples. An clean and a hood one. Ex 1 hood: I use to braid a childhood friend hair every Friday lets just say he was a street pharmacist that had consumers that buy in bulk. His consumers use to make jokes about him because he really didn’t dress like that and nothing was flashy at all about him. His customers however were buying all the new clothes, cars, and living in these nice areas a lot of girls liked them so there is that one type. I thought he just wasn’t materialistic like me. He then dropped a jewel and basically told me to be smart with my money and move silently. This man was stashing and now he owns so much real estate and a great business man. It wasn’t the money that was attractive it was his MENTALITY.

@mif4111

Жыл бұрын

@@CornellG EX2 clean: my ex is a 8th grade math teacher and also a football coach. I make way more money than he does. Although we didn’t work out because of other reasons, his choice of career is what was attractive to me and the fact that he decided to make a difference in his community by being a male role model in the inner city. He created a purpose for his life. My income is significantly more than his income so it wasn’t his money it was his MENTALITY. There are so many different types of women in the world and just because you make a lot of money does not mean that is all you need. You can make a lot of money and have a trash mentality with no purpose.

The only group in the US where marriage is going strong is the upper middle class and above. Its pretty easy to see why. A couple with advanced education, stable good paying careers, and relatively high IQs are able to create a stable household together. They aren’t constantly facing the threat of financial ruin, fighting over having to budget every penny, or unable to do things to take care of their physical and mental wellbeing. As long as Republicans and Democrats continue to be owned by the ruling class and we keep getting their same garbage economic policies marriage will continue to decline for the bottom 80%.

It sounds like we are looking for well rounded individuals and the men are mad. Outbursts are a common weird thing ive seen with dating.

Listening to men like this makes me wanna go “Mhm…and Is the angry jealous non-submissive black woman in the room with us right now?” Lol

Passport Bros are so gullible. Thet really think African women are submissive and affordable to maintain?! As an African woman, we can't wait to pluck out their wallets with our families. They complain about American women being gold diggers while being ignorant of the monetary and lengthy process of acquiring an African/Arab bride. Lmao!

@moneylineparlay105

Жыл бұрын

So why Africa so poor lol

@oratiletsimatsima9643

Жыл бұрын

@@moneylineparlay105 Not poor. Poorly managed. You tried it.

Ugh I just love your breakdown of everything in this video. I have come across men in these circles and trying to discuss the nuance and root causes of this ideology to them is worse than pulling teeth. I’m glad I stay out of men’s business because I don’t see that content often. But once the black men who identify with these (and other) harmful ideologies just admit that they hate black women, then maybe more meaningful conversations can happen. Until then black women will always be blamed in our community.

@ljackson24

Жыл бұрын

Yesssss!!! Like, just admit it. Smh

@blackseed9293

Жыл бұрын

I married a woman from West Aftica, probably much darker than the average Black American woman. So there's your argument. There are also far more BW abroad than in the states.

As a Colombian from Medellin these passport bros are the pushed content when you KZread TikTok my city in the USA it’s rage inducing and sex trafficking for the most part

The crazy part is these men just broadly assume things about vastly different cultures. Mexican woman isn’t the same as an Argentinan woman even though they both speak Spanish. Flocking to Latin America with NO REGARD for the culture that exists there is sick! Especially if they don’t even attempt to learn the language at the very least

@lianagerhardt

Жыл бұрын

Also I don’t think many black men understand the anti-blackness that exists in other countries. Yes you may be able to get the traditional girlfriend who does domestic labor in exchange for monetary gain but the family may not allow her to marry you or accept you as one of their own. Again I don’t mind international relationships but do understand the culture you are jumping into

@gyata7270

Жыл бұрын

PB's aren't going to just any S.American countries, they go C.America, Africa and Asia, but it's always been standard procedure as black people to do the racist research for overseas trips. A lot of PB videos advise to check too

@gregoriopassport

Жыл бұрын

Why all the push back on men traveling to find compatible women?

@lianagerhardt

Жыл бұрын

@@michaelputin28 I have traveled to multiple countries lol what are you talking about?

@lianagerhardt

Жыл бұрын

@@gregoriopassport there’s nothing wrong with it as long as you’re not going in blind. PBs don’t seem genuinely interested in the cultures they are trying to marry into that’s my issue with it.

I love how you're able to articulate these dynamics because I see aspects of it mirrored in my community (just cultural-background wise), and it really needs a more realistic framework. I keep telling women of my ilk, stop limiting yourself to adhere to some collective fear of insecure men who want to adhere to the worst aspects of our culture to compensate for their own failings. I'd rather deal with the difficulties of dating outside my race than be dealing with all that.

@laurekapinga4279

Жыл бұрын

😘😘😘same

Getting a wife from a poor country only works if you stay there. Bring back a woman from a 3rd world country and she will leave the minute she meets a man that makes more money.

@Shaylala19937

Жыл бұрын

Same thing I said. 😂😂😂

@Heyu7her3

Жыл бұрын

With what money are they bringing her back?

@dnycebushton5008

Жыл бұрын

as she should. Because if he couldve gotten a "better deal($$$)" he would have. He couldve gotten something cuter & younger for less he would have. I root for the women...get your money & your papers!!!

@MelbourneMaster

Жыл бұрын

Its a dangerous trend no doubt. America is already one of the most feminized countries on earth. If it gets any worse it will become mainstream for men to leave the US in search of feminine, traditional, submissive women to start a family with. Society will crumble without men to run all the jobs that maintain the country's infastructure. But like all things it will have to hit rock bottom before it gets better.

@grav9992

Жыл бұрын

Just shows you know very very little about the world and these men. People don't want to come to Amerikkka who live in better countries with their own FAMILIES. Secondly, you women don't even know what a 3rd world country is, so that makes you women sound even more stupid and uninformed. The world is bigger than Amerikkka and everyone doesn't want to come here to experience these cops and random shootings that won't stop happening

The institutional problem we have is a black community that coddles men. Sure marriage is down across the board, but I think the system of patriarchy that underpins marriage just doesn’t work is societies where the patriarchal power hardly exists. Just my view

@zerotolerance2026

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree! Bm want to benefit from being a part of patriarchy, but unlike other races of men have not put in the work to make it work for them. They have been coddled and have an entitled attitude and believe they deserve patriarchal privileges- not for building, protecting or providing- but simply because they were born male. That’s never going to happen. Now they are throwing tantrums and threatening to run away like a bunch over grown children. I find it quite comical😂😂

@sami.1983

Жыл бұрын

Yup, patriarchy depends on power and power depends on money. If men can't compete in the money arena, there's no patriarchy for men

@shagans6701

Жыл бұрын

Then you woman have full power to control that , men don't coddle other men, who's the majority head of household in the black communities? I mean this stuff is pure mathematics and has to be dealt with in a mathematical way. Encourage your sisters to keep their sacredness closed until the proper time, other than that it's just the kettle continue to call out the pot, god is not going to pick and choose, these brothers speaking out after decades of you woman not checking the media and many other things like welfare crutch, dominant society propping up black woman artificially over their male counterpart, this is just warning before complete destruction cometh, do you seriously think brad and Becky has a place in their world besides a Sally hemming role?

“The bottom four quintiles” killed me 💀

@SCFLEUR

Жыл бұрын

Straight in the ground 😂

They CLEARLY aren't able to compete in the US dating market. So it's their choice to leave. I doubt any of them will be missed 🤷🏾‍♀️

@grav9992

Жыл бұрын

Clearly these women aren't able to compete in the US dating market, given the FACT that these women can't land a husband to save their life.

@moneylineparlay105

Жыл бұрын

Their productivity to the government and tax dollars to feminism which allows female independence will be missed

@yblimited

Жыл бұрын

@@grav9992 Why do you men still think that women care about marriage??? These modern women could care less! You can no longer hold that over their head lol 🤷🏾‍♀️

@grav9992

Жыл бұрын

@@yblimited then you need to tell that to all these women making videos complaining about the state of dating, because clearly they care. Modern women in their 20s might not care, but they will when they hit the wall and the attention dries up

Many of these passport bros have not thought about the real possibility of losing their jobs or being injured. How can they support the lifestyle of their “foreign” woman with limited or no income? The patriarchy has limited some of these women in education and transferable skills in addition to lack of US citizenship or work visa therefore they cannot compete in the job market or assist with financial hardship. In such instances, having a educated and employed partner is essential.

@aesanonymous8936

Жыл бұрын

Yep this ain't the 1950s and before, you need more than one person to be working to even financially get by in this country. They're literally bringing these vulnerable women into sinking ships and we are in the early atages of a recession. Poverty brings on even higher levels of abuse so these women are just walking in to slave contracts with no escape. I can only feel bad for women at the end of the day when it comes to this cuz these men are just being predators praying on vulnerable women.

@CornellG

Жыл бұрын

I’ve met my wife overseas and I’m still maintaining my six figure salary. The world is big. The common mistake that any country outside of the US is third world needs to stop. My wife is equally as educated as I am.

@itsgabbybtch5587

Жыл бұрын

@@CornellG This is true, but at the same time, I'm sure many will totally be willing to purposely seek out impoverished women from the global south to exploit them, which already happens. This comment I'm sure was about that, not being an American dating someone French or Japanese. Which these men didn't really mention, they brought up mostly poorer countries, so they can have a less literate poor woman they can use.

@CornellG

Жыл бұрын

@@itsgabbybtch5587 For impoverished countries, I see it as a win win. The women there are operating in very limited capacity and an American man coming to save her would do wonders for her and her family. A 50k American could live like a king there. In return, the American man gets a traditional woman who would be traditional whether he came or not as that is her culture.

@moneylineparlay105

Жыл бұрын

Lol y'all are the same women that complain about 50/50 now you are pretending that y'all want to contribute financially in a relationship

I agree. Let them GO....NOW. We're seeing these preferences airing these passport bros out on their dust that they're trying to spread abroad. They're getting the same raggedy BM and these preferences are waking up.

@bandiddid8583

Жыл бұрын

Yes, their preference is feminine, sweet, lady like women. Something thats far removed when it comes to yall🤷

@fangal12

Жыл бұрын

@@bandiddid8583 The internet has poisoned your mind. There's tons of black men finding sweet, feminine, smart, funny women right here in the US. I think what you mean is silent, passive and pretends to worship the ground you walk on.

@bandiddid8583

Жыл бұрын

@@fangal12 no, the internet has woken men in general, black men specifically up from the non sense the women have been allowed to feed men.

@Lisa-em6ed

Жыл бұрын

@@bandiddid8583 if that’s the case why do you all have the highest divorce rate when you all marry out. The counter is for bw that marry out (the lowest of any demographic ). 😂

@yanig7558

Жыл бұрын

Lol that's what they get for messing with us

Pls stop paying attention to people that anger you. Live your life. Focus on positivity. Try to make things better for yourself

I genuinely wish them the best of luck.

I'm Haitian and this ain't new, just wait 3-5 yrs after they get their green card and see if there's still bliss in that marriage. This is marriage for paper, then she will leave for someone better. He will be so blind sided when he realize he's been her most successful scam.

@niesta8843

Жыл бұрын

You mean vice versa

@nonapplicable3055

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, we aren't bringing them back. That takes away significant leverage. You go to a place and you stay there. If one messes up. Then you find another. Pretty simple

This is called "say anything to discredit the competition."

Honestly, all of this stuff is incredibly confusing/hypocritical to me because on the one hand, these men claim they don’t want gold diggers but they don’t want hardworking independent women either - however, they’ll spend their money and resources on a non-American woman believing that she truly loves him for his soul and not his ability to provide. It’s all exchange of goods - I’ll praise you and pay you for your ability to be the wife I desire while I’ll disparage American women for the same thing…my question is, what happens when these women suddenly decide they don’t want to be “the damsel in distress” anymore?! If these women are suddenly uprooted to a country with more opportunities, I would assume that some may even desire a life outside of wife and stay at home Mom. I wonder how these men would react to that…

@niratomas579

Жыл бұрын

The fact of the matter is these women play the game strategically! The internet is worldwide! They are aware of the transactional aspect of the relationship! They act meager then get their green card and keep it moving!

@Shaylala19937

Жыл бұрын

If they bring those mail order brides back to the US, that woman will be gone in 6-18 months. I’ve watched it happen with male associates over and over and over again. These dudes just won’t learn 🤷🏽‍♀️

As a black man I've learned so much from your content (and other black women like Tee, Khadija, Joulzey, etc). Thank your for these incredibly well-thought out takes. This whole passport bros thing feels incredibly predatory to me. Like you said, this only works bc of inequity. Only disagreement I've got so far is the idea that marriage is always about ownership and control. It can be for sure. Just not always. That said, again, learning a great deal from your perspectives (despite BW not being here to save me 😂)

@1991-present

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate you brother

@Heyu7her3

Жыл бұрын

She said "wifedom" is, but without knowing what her views are about marriage, I can't say whether she values "marriage as partnership".

It’s not just seeking women who are “more submissive,” eesh but it really is just seeking women who are poor. And have less options for upward social mobility in their countries of origin.

@Shaylala19937

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@ERoss338

Жыл бұрын

See here’s the thing. Life is about leverage. You just prefer the women to have the leverage. So be honest and say it

@Heyu7her3

Жыл бұрын

Poor is submission

It’s the “Leftover blk men” fa me! 😂😂😂😂😂

Was listening while cleaning my house and heard you say you were ending the “Are y’all okay”?! Ran to my phone and purchased immediately!

@taty87

Жыл бұрын

Mind you it’s Sunday lol

I stand with the women in the Caribbean. I would never knock another woman's hustle. There are certain parts of the Caribbean that are not advertised in brochures, or tourist sites. It's 'survival mode' depending on where you live. These women are quite clever, talented, experienced and first class hustlers. There is nothing naive or unintelligent about them. If a woman can manipulate an American man with an over-inflated ego, I think she should proceed wisely for that green card. Once the expiration date is effective, and the mask wears off, I think she should milk him for every cent. It's not an easy task pretending to be emotionally connected to someone. It takes effort, ingesting disgust, acting and constant pacifying to keep your eye on the prize. It's not easy being in that 'pretentious' mode and validating someone through 'fake emotions.' I would say that she deserved it, and was entitled to it.

@moneylineparlay105

Жыл бұрын

We don't give green cards no more

@akilahbrooklyn8236

Жыл бұрын

@@moneylineparlay105 Your US citizen status can determine who you can sponsor to work or live in the US. Another requirement is showing financial proof that you can sponsor a foreign spouse. 1. Passport Bros will head overseas to look for green card sponsorships because their income doesn't substantiate a lifestyle for them to invest or live overseas. Contrary to popular belief, $100K is NOT $100M. They're not Jay-Z, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, and Warren Buffett. Note: None of the men that I listed are even married to women that required sponsorship. What chance do Passport Bros have with 0 equity? 2. These women are not naive, they know that the Passport Bros are worth $100K and not $100M. Lets not mention, how FINE the men are in their own countries, a fair trade off would have to be a very unattractive American man for $100K. 3. Loneliness will always settle in, so the "I have no desire for marriage" Passport Bros are simply deceiving themselves. Expect more green cards issued in the near future. Their operating income is in the US, not overseas. Again, I stand with my Caribbean Sistas... In the words of Ivana Trump "Take Everything."

@moneylineparlay105

Жыл бұрын

@@akilahbrooklyn8236 lol, dudes living overseas on 30k a year LMAO It's cheaper overseas, you don't know what you talking about

@moneylineparlay105

Жыл бұрын

@@akilahbrooklyn8236 the average 30k man can get a 20 year old baddie overseas and there is nothing you can do to stop it

@akilahbrooklyn8236

Жыл бұрын

@@moneylineparlay105 For the record, Retirement age is 59 1/2. Men who are 59-60 years of age aren't using the term 'baddies' either. You seem young and misinformed. 😂

I wish passbro go stay hell away from black woman 🤨

IMO from doing interviews and being in multiple lives with these Men. I find the common denominator being some sort of Psychological disorder in all of them. Narcissistic and Sociopathic behavior run rampant. So, yes, as a Man, these Men are very much "leftovers" unless you truly enjoy dysfunction.

@niffellbique3744

Жыл бұрын

Oh my

You should give F. D. Signifier work a look. He is a Black man trying to shine light on the ills and perils of Black manhood.

@KickedBackL

Жыл бұрын

I feel like she’s mentioned FD before. I know he’s shouted her out on his lives before

@Heyu7her3

Жыл бұрын

Are THEY listening to him? Because I've only seen fellow Black women shout him out.

@grav9992

Жыл бұрын

@@Heyu7her3 is he saying simp stuff???? If so, that's why. But hey, there's money in telling women bad advice that they want to hear

@sheilakosoff5806

Жыл бұрын

Love FD Signifier ❤

As a white Cuban living in Miami, fam they can save their money and just get on Spirit here or to Orlando; plenty of Caribbean women whether they're from DR, Haiti, Cuba, etc. Yall don't need a passport, just $90 and wait on stand-by at the airport lol Jokes aside, Kimberly makes an excellent point about not chasing after these dudes, they're not worth it. Marriage / kids is on the decline because of economic reasons NOT because of 'feminism' or whatever.

I KNEW I RECOGNIZED ONE OF MY OWN!! I some areas in your vid when I though, “hmm, she may be have ADHD.” It’s a gift and I love how you communicate and get sht done. It’s very inspiring. My ADHD is living my butt rn. 😫😅

People are just not okay anywhere. It’s sickening to see this type of injustice around the world and like Kim said have the nerve to dump all these hate ideologies onto our backs before letting the door hit them in they ass on the way out 🤦🏽‍♀️ just sick 😠😡🙄

@grav9992

Жыл бұрын

So, in your mind, black women are all good and anything that's said about them by these men is a lie???? Only bw think they're perfect and beyond reproach, that's why they're the least married but lead the league in baby mama life

👏🏽 where 👏🏽 are 👏🏽 these 👏🏽 traditional 👏🏽 men??? Most of them can’t even provide for a whole family. And another thing, BW been had their passports. BM just got ‘em to use for women, BW been using it for growth/experiences/ jobs.

@dnycebushton5008

Жыл бұрын

Boop

@sailormoongoon90

Жыл бұрын

Say it again!!

Cesar from 90 Day Fiancé…lol

I have a partner who likes to hate watch the manosphere. He is a good partner in every way, and just seems to like making fun of people in that world. But I wonder if there is any part of him who agrees or may become susceptible to their influence through the hate watching? Would any of you worry about this?

@ishowbrokey

Жыл бұрын

Guess that would depend on if he is happy in the relationship.

@afrivox

Жыл бұрын

Watching the manosphere won't make necessarily hate women... let alone his own spouse....but it might make him less of a doormat...and thats not you want in a man in the first tbh

Oooh, Kim…I love your work to death, but I’ve got to call you in, here. This video was filled with coherent and salient points. I was right there with you until the piece about neurodivergence. I think it’s a really erudite observation that ND mascs may be more susceptible to manosphere rhetoric both because of their marginalization and their neurodivergence. That part? Spot on. I have yet to hear anyone talk deeply about that and as an autistic masc, I think that makes a lot of sense. But I started to depart at the demonization of ND traits and the association of neurodivergence with being abnormal, requiring healing and medication, and being worthy of derision. Some neurodivergences can be medicated, but it’s v dangerous to treat ND like a disease or disorder to be fixed. Largely because many ND traits are not subject to change, and are only positioned as negative when neurotypicality is held as the gold standard. Though you or I may fall on the verbal, emotionally, and situationally aware side of the spectrum, our more marginalized ND counterparts surely deserve our respect and compassion. If being neurodivergent or missing social cues is a disqualifier for romance, that’s fine! No one is obligated to date ND people with incompatible traits. that’s a person’s prerogative. I’m sure most ND people don’t want to be in relationships where their disabilities are framed as a negative. Although I understand the context within the video, I’m not saying weirdness or misogynoir should be ignored when it comes from a ND person. But some of these comments come off like unhealed ableism, and doubling down on the ableism in regard to misogynistic nd men, has implications beyond just those men. Yes for sure, ND men can be misogynistic, there are ND assholes, of course, just like any community. But there are also kind ND people with solid politics. When personality traits are conflated with neurodivergence instead of simply tied to that individual…I’d be really careful about how that conversation unfolds, because it can definitely encourage and reinforce stigmas against ND people, even if it’s coming from an ND person. I know you and this community are warm, empathetic, and well informed. I just think this particular topic may necessitate some more research bc the vibe during that segment was def not the move, and I’d hate for that to sour all of the beautiful work you do in any way.

@morgansubtilis6852

Жыл бұрын

This is definitely a tricky topic. But when it comes to adult relationships, and traits that lead a population to not only have difficulty but to adopt ideas that make them even less suitable and possibly harmful as partners, I think it's fair for the population of potential partners to say "sorry, not our responsibility, we can't do anything about that".

@GayHimbo

Жыл бұрын

@@morgansubtilis6852 (I’m sorry i had a lot of scattered thoughts i had to collect, and i wanted to be as clear as i could in responding to you, so i figured it just made more sense to repost my revised comment) while I do think there is a specific kind of vulnerability in ND mascs that gets preyed upon by the manosphere, I think it’s dangerous to then navigate as if neurodivergent partners will always or even predominantly be drawn to incel culture or abuse. I think it’s very possible to hold people accountable for their actions and views, without tethering that critique to marginalized identities or disabilities they may hold, right? I see this dynamic a lot in diff axes of oppression. I don’t have any statistics but at least anecdotally in my experiences with ND people, I think that neurodivergent people are by and large more likely to receive abuse, but are positioned as boogeymen in broad society, which is then used to silence nd victims and justify ableism. much in the same way that Kevin samuels types incorrectly characterize black fems as being more socially powerful than they really are and use that characterization as evidence to support their misogynoir, if that makes sense. Or how conservatives act like queer people are taking over and are a danger to cishet people to make their queerphobia seem reasonable, it’s very common. If a person thinks they shouldn’t be dating ND people, I honestly think so too! That requires unpacking a lot of socially ingrained biases and if that work hasn’t been done, it can cause a lot of damage, I’ve seen and lived that first hand. But I think it’s very important to think deeply about the way we conceptualize neurodivergence, even when talking about people we dislike, because of what that says implicitly about ND people as a whole, you know?

@morgansubtilis6852

Жыл бұрын

@@GayHimbo I'm trying to go through what you said to make sure that you are not putting the responsibility for keeping ND men out of red pill circles on women and calling anything less than that "ableism" by women, or calling women having preferences that do not include doing extra work to take care of ND men out of guilt or social obligation instead of genuine affection "ableism". I am all for social changes to accommodate different types of people, but that support stops hard and cold when it comes to any guilt tripping about who women "need to be nicer to" / "give a chance to". No - society doesn't get to tell women who they are obligated to dispense affection to. Even if it's ableism, I don't think you can convince me that it should prevail over my autonomy over who I give myself to.

@GayHimbo

Жыл бұрын

@@morgansubtilis6852 oh no that’s not what I’m saying at all! I actually mentioned twice that I don’t think anyone has a responsibility to date or caretake neurodivergent strangers out of guilt or social obligation, so maybe we’re talking past each other? I realize i wrote a lot also, but I’m not advocating for any societal pressure for esp black women and fems to settle or provide unreciprocated care or anything like that. I’m referring to the way that neurodivergence is being *talked about* both in this video and that you echoed in your comment, the assumptions and negative associations being applied to neurodivergent traits. Kim literally calls neurodivergence not normal and took that general tone throughout that part of the discussion. That rhetoric impacts all neurodivergent people, including ND women and queers. That’s what I’m naming as ableist.

@Blahgirl283

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing, Mio Mio. That was a thoughtful response.

They definitely just want their egos stroked. Cause the second those women get over here and get the citizenship they want and they disappear and leave them with babies they gone be looking crazy😭

1:13:15 that part about them being neurodiverse is definitely something to look at 👀 (for someone else cause like you said it ain’t my ministry either 😂) but RSD is common for neurodiverse people. Taking rejection REALLY hard and hyper fixating on that, stewing in it. It’s an avenue of conversation for sure.

@dudeeveryone391

Жыл бұрын

Tbh also the black and white structural thinking of men vs women and very specific gender roles and becoming irrationally angry at people that don’t perfectly align with them.

@Heyu7her3

Жыл бұрын

They're not neurodivergent. They're toddlers in suits. Neurodivergent people (I am one) typically value equity and morality.

@dudeeveryone391

Жыл бұрын

@@Heyu7her3 I’m also neurodivergent and I (unfortunately) know a ton of other neurodivergent people who are extremely misogynistic/racist/homophobic. Just slip into your average magic the gathering play space and you can meet a ton. I’ve known several that way and the rest I know are my coworkers in IT. That’s really an extreme generalization to make. Neurodivergence has nothing to do with your personal moral beliefs and does not magically make you a better person. It does tend to cause people to have extremely strong beliefs and ethics, but in no way means they are going to be “good” ones.

Ive heard someone say a marriage license is really just a work contract for women 🤐 and its stuck with me ever since

@dkt4377

4 ай бұрын

Marriage is work and full of responsibility for both husbands and wives.

PassportBros have joined the party late! Men in the west finding partners in the developing world is not new. White men in Europe, US, Australia & NZ have been doing this for over 20 years, it is called modern day slavery. The book "Modern Day Slave Wives" by Harriet Lisa Chebet tells of horrific experiences of domestic abuse. Domestic partnering with people from other countries is not all bad, men in China (due to less women) are partnering with women from Africa, India, Pakistan etc

As a brown man I say that black women get disrespected a lot and this must stop now. Love your work

@audacity2hope645

Жыл бұрын

Thank you🤗. It’s nice to see honesty. Black women tend to be very giving and take all manner shit before they get tired and truly assert themselves.

@afrivox

Жыл бұрын

From what I see, black women who are more conservative tend to do better than woke feminists... overall

Oh, so it isn’t only me. Since being diagnosed with ADHD, I have been trying to convince myself to stop thinking everyone is on the spectrum as well, but here we are.

@Heyu7her3

Жыл бұрын

I don't think they're on any kind of spectrum _(tho some may be on a particular one that they need to reconcile)_ . They're underdeveloped at best.

@sky1luv793

Жыл бұрын

Everyone is the spectrum. One person's crazy is another person's sanity.

Love your concise thoughtful perspective always

Laughs in woman from the islands… y’all are getting got lol. These men are just pushing the same narrative as mail-order brides. While not having any postage lol 😂

@jayceechester

Жыл бұрын

That’s ok. I am all for women benefiting financially. 🙄

@ayanomar1408

Жыл бұрын

lol as soon as I understood what passportbros ment I thought “Oh no, they are like bloody person in a shark infested waters! best of luck to those women” 😂😂😂

I'm hearing about this for the first time. I'm south Africa and I'm not sure if this has arrived on our shores. Honestly this all sounds like slavery to me.

@Shaylala19937

Жыл бұрын

It is

@sharronewilson4761

Жыл бұрын

I doubt any American men will rush to find a wife in South Africa

@hunadimakgatho3403

Жыл бұрын

@@sharronewilson4761 they better not. We've suffered enough in the hands of America. No need to legally tie your self to more suffering.

@sharronewilson4761

Жыл бұрын

@@hunadimakgatho3403 so by that statement you feel black American men are toxic. I would respectfully love to hear why you feel that and please be honest

@hunadimakgatho3403

Жыл бұрын

@@sharronewilson4761 I said it in my initial response. Its very slavery- like to go to under developed country to look for wives to clean and cook for you. Taking advantage of the fact that people come from poorer countries that you just so you can exploit them is disgusting. And my comments were very specific to passport bro movements. The video we are watching is also directed at this passport bro movements. I don't know why you decided to include the entire gender of black people