Let’s Argue: Anthony Fantano Defends Industry Plants Just Because He’s Vegan

@ivy67767

3 жыл бұрын

I hope this joke isn’t overused.

@jerriemelemuelmaderazo5163

3 жыл бұрын

wouldn't he wanna eat them then?

@guzzgalvan4989

3 жыл бұрын

Lets Argue: Anthony defends industry plants cause he's a simp

@hollandkroese7427

3 жыл бұрын

Personally, I’ve never seen or heard this comment, so be proud of your great, original comment.

@puddycat2325

3 жыл бұрын

lmao

She’s obviously a human being, not a plant. I don’t understand why this is an argument.

@mannyoftheeast3318

3 жыл бұрын

Right? The only real plant is the melon himself.

@thatssofetch3481

3 жыл бұрын

She has never once stated that she was a human being

@lmao9526

3 жыл бұрын

Melon

@trakc17

3 жыл бұрын

daddy was wrong this time

@noseblind2088

3 жыл бұрын

if she was a plant she would have been in veggie tales and i dont think ive seen her in that

"Fantano with long hair doesn't exist, he can't hurt you" Fantano with long hair: 2:10

@gglovesgorillazmj7784

3 жыл бұрын

your a genius 😹😹😭

@foofighters666

3 жыл бұрын

Goro lookin ass

@kevinross6235

3 жыл бұрын

@@gglovesgorillazmj7784 He definitely knew what he was doing by standing there

@keenobrown919

3 жыл бұрын

Best hair in the game.

@emalaw1329

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like he completely shaves his head except for his luscious ponytail. Giving me Zuko from season 1 of ATLA vibes

To really see if musicians are industry plants, we should force them to go a week without any sunlight. If they die because they cannot photosynthesize, we know they are a plant.

@lucioledizerot196

3 жыл бұрын

fair

@reign8006

3 жыл бұрын

This is the best solution

@joshentertainment2

3 жыл бұрын

Vitamin D difficiency

@ringer1324

3 жыл бұрын

Just pour water on them lol

@lukijez

3 жыл бұрын

were*

I’ll be really sad when we have to sacrifice Olivia Rodrigo for the corn harvest

@dustinray1694

3 жыл бұрын

MALAKAI THE ORDER OF THE ROARING BELCH WANTS YOUUUU

@_PuppetMaster86

3 жыл бұрын

@Ryan Akwar Minus Jake Paul.

@BEDCORN

3 жыл бұрын

this guy's sick

@KayvK

3 жыл бұрын

Ready your flash-photo cameras

@yaboi3339

3 жыл бұрын

nice pfp

Is an “industry plant” just someone who has connections? Because if that’s the case then 99% of all semi popular artists are industry plants

@patrickmchugh4616

3 жыл бұрын

As I understand it, "industry plant" is a derogatory term that refers to a "newly discovered, hot artist" that appears from out of the underground/indie scene but is, in actuality, a person or group with connections to the powers that be in the music industry. These connections are downplayed or actively hidden with respect to this new artist in the hopes of making them seem more "authentic."

@dialecticsjunkie7653

3 жыл бұрын

@@patrickmchugh4616 That's why I dislike the term "industry plant", it suggests that true meritocracy is the normal, default state of the industry and that people who have connections to the powers that be are some special type of hack. Whereas in fact most people who become big in the industry have connections to the powers that be -- that is the default state. It doesn't mean that they aren't talented.

@StonedCrackerofHell

3 жыл бұрын

@@dialecticsjunkie7653 based

@user-bx1bv6ng9t

3 жыл бұрын

@@dialecticsjunkie7653 it doesn’t mean they aren’t talented, and it isn’t a bad thing to have connections. i think the issue appears when, as stated above, the artist actively attempts to hide their connections to frame themselves as self made. i don’t necessarily think olivia rodrigo falls into that category, but i digress

@ktownshutdown21

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody in the history of music ever made it on the radio or nowadays big even know social media doesn't make it without connections. People love to romanticize the fantasy of the loner musician magically blowing up while tucked away in their room, but the fact of the matter is that it takes a lot of hustling and marketing savvy to get your work onto a big enough platform to start profiting from it. Everybody has an agent, sorry to spoil the illusion, kids.

I wonder if the idea of DJs at high school reunions in 20-30 years will be a moot point because high school reunions won't exist anymore

@ZomboTron_2099

3 жыл бұрын

itll be the shit we miss rn like black eyed p's and LMFAO

@j.s.7894

3 жыл бұрын

@@ZomboTron_2099 I’ve had a playlist for forever now that’s solely top 40 stuff from like 2002-2012 and i believe that it is my best playlist overall

@dopey473

3 жыл бұрын

Eyyy it's the Deuce

@brokengirrafe

3 жыл бұрын

I'm about to have a graduation event next month. It's going to be very awkward, because with the exception of one colleague who became a very close friend, I haven't interacted with any of those people in a year and a half lmao.

@samoflegend738

3 жыл бұрын

there will always be a contingent of ppl that will want to do reunions. can't say I understand the point in the age of social media but it's inevitable.

LETS AGREE: Anthony’s shirt is very nice

@pelekalikimaka

3 жыл бұрын

Joe

@asapluke

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree it sucks

@Blappyboop

3 жыл бұрын

I give it a solid 8

@becycewbfiuw8028

3 жыл бұрын

@@asapluke your mother

@joshrazorjt

3 жыл бұрын

NOT GOOD/10

People gotta learn what an industry plant is. Olivia can't be an industry plant because she has never marketed herself as coming from the underground or having an organic rise in fame. She's pretty open about her Disney background and all of it is out in the open for the public to see. Having industry connections is not inherently the same as being an industry plant.

@riya7422

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. People just like to throw that term around lol.

@MaRyaYTOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

An a hand full of younger gen z may recognize her from bizaardvark like it’s not a secret

@warofmankind

3 жыл бұрын

She 100% is yall delusional... These kids are groomed to be musicians apart from being child actors

@warofmankind

3 жыл бұрын

They've been groomed and prepped up from like 6 years ago before.

@riya7422

3 жыл бұрын

@@warofmankind The definition of an industry pant - "industry plant is an artist who has a Major/Indie Label backing their movement but presents themselves as a “home grown start up” label to create a pseudo organic following." Olivia does not meet that definition at all. Everyone knows she is prepped by Disney, a major corporation. She is the complete opposite of a plant.

Biggest takeaway: Anthony confirmed in 20-30 years he will make an onlyfans

I thought an “industry plant” was a super specific thing - Like, the formation of Peter, Paul & Mary was literally a producer thinking “Anti-war folk music is really taking off... Let’s get in on this!” and then he auditioned people to form a specific group that he, the industry insider, planned from the start. There’s also an element of deception there since, to the public, they seemed indie. Disney stars are really different, imo... but there’s no Wikipedia page for the term so I have no idea if others think it means the same thing I do lol.

@kedsarama

3 жыл бұрын

I always thought the same thing. I thought that industry plants were essentially molded and created by businessmen in the industry with the sole intention of making money off popular music trends. Recently though, people have thrown the term around so much that I just feel like it's lost any meaning it ever had.

@bluerobin7051

3 жыл бұрын

An "industry plant" is any artist who is brute-forced into the music world with obvious prior connections and a designed appeal. Basically when some artist comes out like a product.

@henrybottomsworth

3 жыл бұрын

@@bluerobin7051 yeah this seems like it would need a different definition. someone like billie eilish who has rich parents and connections to everything won't get her to her popularity today, at the end of the day, singing is something that is very hard to get good at until people start doing vocal implants or something you just gotta be born with it. you can have all the producers, ghost writers, etc. in the world carrying you but there is a bit of effort a rich person has to put in. but yeah totally different definition i just described than what an industry plant is. Drake at this point technically is an industry plant by that definition although i do not think he got his start in music being the same person he is today. that dude has people doing everything for him, he just has to get on a mic and sing whatever he was scripted to do.

@fisticuffs12

3 жыл бұрын

@@bluerobin7051 i thought there had to be some sort of marketing deception involved? like i wouldn't categorise kpop idols as industry plants when we all know they just pick hot people and train them to fulfill a role, if everyone knows that's what's going on it just feels weird to call them a plant. same goes for disney kids, we know where they come from, nobody imagined them to be indie

@RebornLegacy

3 жыл бұрын

@@bluerobin7051 Yup

"Imma need that money" *Ad plays* Well played, Tony.

Most folks commenting that “classical musicians just perform other peoples music” are really exposing how ignorant they are. In the classical world the composer is more akin to a screenwriter/director and the musicians are the actors that bring it to life. A conductor in a way is a bit more like a cinematographer/co-director. You wouldn’t scoff at Daniel day-Lewis for acting in someone else’s movie lol. It’s a collaborative effort. I don’t know where this take on classical musicians came from recently but holy hell is it dumb.

@DavidSmyth666

3 жыл бұрын

It's probably the same kind of people who dismiss pop singers who don't write their own songs. It's really quite a narrow perspective when you consider that there are a lot of styles of music (traditional music, musical theatre) in which musicians as a rule don't compose.

@it-s-a-mystery

3 жыл бұрын

@@DavidSmyth666 I wont lie, I get sad when I love an artist and then find out that they dont produce or write their own songs. Its disappointing to me, but it doesnt make me like the music any less. I also don't talk about the artist in a different way after finding out. Production is one thing. But writing, I at least want to see them as co writers. I think its because I put a lot of stock into personal meaning and sentimentality. It can make the music lose some of its charm, or meaning. I understand that artists sometimes dont write their music, but feed a writer a story, for them to craft a song or lyrics out of.

@nicodvorak9926

3 жыл бұрын

had the same take but your comment made a lot of sense

@DevareayWilliams

3 жыл бұрын

@@it-s-a-mystery I used to get disappointed when I found out some of my favorite artists didn’t write their stuff. But I now see it like original post. Some people are good writers, but maybe suck at performing, so you give it to someone who can knock it out of the park performance wise. Just like in film, there are people who can write, but suck at directing, so they give the screenplay to somebody else.

@brzt4256

3 жыл бұрын

Have you considered that they might know, but still think this _shouldn't_ be the case?

Let’s agree: Anthony Fantano is a plant in the metal-plated wallet industry

@salimlamar4212

3 жыл бұрын

Lmfao bruh

@radioguy1667

3 жыл бұрын

Let’s agree: Melon is a Plant

@johnbogeyman5873

3 жыл бұрын

@@radioguy1667 melon is tree

In order to combat industry plants, we have to create industry rocks. People who are inserted into the music industry with the full intention of going nowhere. Not even that they wind up going nowhere, you have no music or anything.

@spoonmeanie5644

3 жыл бұрын

John Cage's 4'33'', No music or anything

Every Disney star is a plant, that's basically how it's worked for decades

@craigstephenson7676

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it actually works out super well for them cause they don’t have to eat they just have to stand in the sunlight every dsy

@PascalOPM

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigstephenson7676 this is really really funny. I hope you are proud. I want you to know that you should be proud of this comment.

@1970DAH

3 жыл бұрын

I wish the world would ignore Jake Paul and his "Disney Channel flow"

@Gamer123e4

3 жыл бұрын

every disney star is a plant if you have no earthly clue what the word plant means or how it’s used

@craigstephenson7676

3 жыл бұрын

@@PascalOPM I’m kind of the next Dave Chapelle

as a metalhead myself, the metalhead community has always been elitist and cruel for absolutely no reason, so it’s no revelation that the community kinda sucks sometimes lmao

I remember in esrly highschool I only listened to Thrash Metal and I used to trash talk everything else that people listened to, I'm glad I matured.

@_PuppetMaster86

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you found the high road. Some people I’ve seen never grew up.

@Revan-eb1wb

3 жыл бұрын

I still remember when nu metal was hot. It was not seen as a "metal" genre abd metalcore and deathcore got shit as well from the metal scene. I still wonder what counts as " metal" for them? Classic "heavy metal"? Everytime a new subgenre emerges it gets shit on.

@SunlessPeriwinkle

3 жыл бұрын

@@Revan-eb1wb Some of them are stuck in nostalgia, the young ones of this generation want to be "not like the other kids" and the others are just "better than thou music" buffoons. They want doom metal, thrash, black scene, as much I like metal, I totally despise the community, I'm not even going to shy away from the fact that I became one of them, different subgenres are bandwagoned against enough already, but specifically ragecore still gets shat on daily, they just shit on it for the sake of shitting on it.

@SunlessPeriwinkle

3 жыл бұрын

Same, I used to be exclusively a metal/rock bopper, but now I listen to every genre there is, u name it. I get to hear new songs everyday which opens me up to different artists and the musical/instrumental variety there is, I've learned not to just arrogantly dismiss the fact that all genres make music as a whole, and to overcome seeing from such a narrow spot.

@cancercentral9997

3 жыл бұрын

I think thrash also gets shat on by metalheads who don't listen to it. I personally don't really like thrash, based on the admittedly limited amount of it that I've heard. I've listened to Metallica's first three albums (Don't like Kill 'Em All, it just sounds like stupid ADHD shit, from what I can remember. Ride the Lightning is my favourite, as it has the best sound fidelity, and is the shortest. Master of Puppets was decent) and Rust in Peace. (Megadeth) I have, however, listened to a few "proto-thrash" songs. (Supernaut and Symptom of the Universe, by Black Sabbath + Breadfan and Crash Course in Brain Surgery, by Budgie. Symptom of the Universe is the best of the four, and I'd highly recommend listening to it)

8:00 As a “classically trained” musician, (started in a band class and am currently in college as a music education major) everything you said is 10,000,000% correct. I wish there was more understanding in the online music enjoying sphere of what all a “classical musician” can really mean. Because it is a WIDE category.

@uur_mum

3 жыл бұрын

I was about to comment my appreciation of how he responded to that post as well. Not classically trained but I did play cello all throughout childhood up through college. Bach’s cello suites are some of the most well known cello pieces, and there’s no single agreed upon way of how to play them. Once I got to college and studied the history of the period and Bach’s life, and then took lessons with a cello PhD, I fully realized how cool and fun it is to interpret this really old music and it’s sort of an insult to just call it a “cover”, especially if you’re that good because then you can write and sell your own version of it.

@BenjaminLongman

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that tweet was so ignorant

@Shpoofy12

3 жыл бұрын

Do you have any idea what the song is played at 9:22?

@tenciaga

2 жыл бұрын

Most classical music students can’t find a job to save their life.

@rypk2480

2 жыл бұрын

its takes like these that just make me respect fantano so much more

LET'S ARGUE: Fantano is making his Let's Argue videos shorter and we're all mad real mad

i feel like people forget that like 80% of disney shows are music related, or at least have a strong musical undertones. idk why it’s such a shock that stars from such a music forward TV channel become big pop artists

Lets argue: Anthony is the best because he is the only KZread that talks about the what the thumbnail is at the start of the video and not the end.

@cybercrasherstv

3 жыл бұрын

Either you're trolling, in which case gloss over the next sentence, or you're being serious, in which case, you are a close minded moron who hasn't even watched another music critic

@humansbornfreshh

3 жыл бұрын

@@cybercrasherstv bruh he's talking about KZread in general not music critics... Chill out

@pohlman1

3 жыл бұрын

Daily dose of internet also has the the thing that’s on the thumbnail at the start of the vid instead of the end

@cybercrasherstv

3 жыл бұрын

@@humansbornfreshh Still tho, very close minded. He ain't the only "youtube"

@DanJuega

3 жыл бұрын

@@cybercrasherstv Did you took your pills this morning?

even if you dislike her music, there’s no reason to be mean to a teenage girl or her fans

@boywonder420

3 жыл бұрын

their annoying so i try to stay away

@Nersius

3 жыл бұрын

@@boywonder420 You could always go over and see if they won't share with you.

@monsterwith21faces92

3 жыл бұрын

I don't like her but still I try to avoid their fans and commenting on her

@ikexbankai

3 жыл бұрын

@@monsterwith21faces92 what the hell did a teenager girl that you don’t even know personally do to you to make you not like her? You have literally no reason to not like her. You could not like the music but to not like her lol. I’m hoping you are meaning her music and not actually her

@monsterwith21faces92

3 жыл бұрын

@@ikexbankai I mean I don't like her because she is just another pop singer she ain't did none special or new didn't bring anything to the table so that's why

A song being overplayed can make you hate the song, but the song's quality doesn't change for that reason wtf 😂

As a classical musician, your last take was perfect. Plenty of great new music out there. Also, performing music and composing music are two different skill sets- you don’t have to do both. Most classical musicians are perfectly content dedicating their lives to doing a great job playing other people’s music, after all, there’s 500 years of great music to play through

@Shpoofy12

3 жыл бұрын

Do you know the song at 9:23?

@RyanRenteria

3 жыл бұрын

@@Shpoofy12 honestly it could be anyone. sounds like a lot of contemporary stuff

fella that said classical musicians only imitate greater minds prolly has some hot takes about actors too

LET’S ARGUE: Maybe music sucks?

As someone who grew up learning the classical guitar, modern classical compositions are really something special and interesting. I just wish the typical audience for classical music were more willing to listen to these newer works than the centuries old classics that everyone knows.

@pinkstrad

3 жыл бұрын

Totally agree

@Cheeseboiga

3 жыл бұрын

You got any recommendations?

@jx6603

3 жыл бұрын

@Emile Dehennin @M. Kenzei Check out Twoset violin's "5 modern composers to listen too" and their videos with other classically trained musicians

@Shpoofy12

3 жыл бұрын

Do you know the song at 9:23

When Fantano's head aligned with Olivia Rodrigo's hair in the background for a few seconds was one of the most disturbing images I've ever seen.

What's wrong with plants anyways? I like plants.

@chilihotdog7257

3 жыл бұрын

Me too man

@peanutgallery4

3 жыл бұрын

Anthony wants to know whether or not he can morally eat someone

@moneymoses

3 жыл бұрын

@@peanutgallery4 he wants to call humans plants so he can eat meat and still be vegan

@ZeroSensed

2 жыл бұрын

moneymoses Are you saying he wants to eat humans?

I better be in this one Update: I wasn’t

@syedyahyaali4055

3 жыл бұрын

no

@Iridesca

3 жыл бұрын

How do you even get into one of his let’s argue episodes?

@user-fw1bq3gd4x

3 жыл бұрын

@@Iridesca be *super* fast to reply to his let's argue tweets

@Iridesca

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-fw1bq3gd4x when does he typically post his let’s argue tweets? Or are they not on any sort of schedule?

I just don't like how tiktok doesn't make songs popular, but makes like 45-second clips of songs popular and it's an even further progression away from people listening to albums. Not that I think everyone should be listening to full vinyls but I feel like there's a reason why so many people I know barely even listen to full songs and just switch between them halfway through

@lindseycassella3015

3 жыл бұрын

I hate when they do that

"Oh really, you're an athlete? Tell me the best sports you've invented."

Props to the editor for giving Fantano Olivia's hair.

LET'S AGRUE: Anthony needs to start paying my mom child support

@falsalot9613

3 жыл бұрын

did you know that kanye west is bipolar?

@chilihotdog7257

3 жыл бұрын

@@falsalot9613 logic is actually biracial btw

@barrymcockiner976

3 жыл бұрын

Edp likes kids btw

@craigstephenson7676

3 жыл бұрын

@@chilihotdog7257 I’m actually by your moms house right now

@spoonmeanie5644

3 жыл бұрын

@@craigstephenson7676 Actually there is blood everywhere oh no what have i done this will scar me for the rest of my life.

2:16 Melon rockin some sweet new locks

@s1mplem4gic58

3 жыл бұрын

C U R S E D

Pause video at about 2:16 if you wanna see Fantano as a Prog rock guitarist

@nicrage92

3 жыл бұрын

Hairy melon

@ninjax9675

3 жыл бұрын

devthony fantownshend

@PatoGuzmanAd

3 жыл бұрын

this this is the best comment, laughed more than I wanted

what is the song at 9:23 i NEED it

@serwetkowywritter1

3 жыл бұрын

OMG I'm just scrolling through the comments to get that answer...

As a self-described metalhead, I can confirm that there are certainly a fair share of elitist dickheads in the metal community. I've had the joy of knowing a few personally. In my experience, I think it comes from the fact that the genre tends to attract people who were outcasts growing up and there's a certain amount of resentment there that they then translate into resentment towards other more "popular" or "mainstream" genres of music. I was certainly like that for a little while prior to some introspection which led me to open up to other genres and I now proudly have a large eclectic range of music I enjoy.

@alexdead8788

3 жыл бұрын

yes it's like they give back the hate they received for being a ''wierdo'' metal head.

@johnforestersworstnightmar3756

3 жыл бұрын

Same. I feel like it’s definitely a small but vocal minority in the community. I do feel like most metal heads like a variety of genres to the point where their tastes are more eclectic than the average music listener.

LETS ARGUE: Anthony’s pitch control is commendable.

@connorman6725

3 жыл бұрын

This should be a "Let's Agree".

how can he call himself a metalhead when his head is clearly made of melon

@indeed260

3 жыл бұрын

Melonhead

@dustinray1694

3 жыл бұрын

‘Cause all he can think about is the sleek, modern design of the Ridge Wallet 24/7 😂💰

@perlundgren7797

3 жыл бұрын

@@indeed260 Melönhead.

@_PuppetMaster86

3 жыл бұрын

@@perlundgren7797 Lemmy? Nah. Melly.

What is the music playing when it shows the patreon supporters? It's REALLY nice

@kylemanor1174

3 жыл бұрын

Please someone answer this, Shazam couldn’t identify it

@blarnglaibly9482

3 жыл бұрын

yeah what is itttt?

@nickvanamburg

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, does anyone know??

@UnMelomano89

3 жыл бұрын

I'm just here to read the answer

@Metalheadaches

3 жыл бұрын

yeah leaving a comment so I can come back later

Damn, meme comment aside these takes are cold as fuck, Anthony didn’t even have a reason to fully open his eyes during the entire video.

Does anyone know the classical snippet he played at the end? Absolutely love the sound of it.

2:10 Fantano with the best ponytail in the game

@spoonmeanie5644

3 жыл бұрын

Ariana back off 💅

She mad talented I don't even care if she's a plant

@nevermindgaming6848

3 жыл бұрын

I mean ripping off acts from the 2000s

@EpioN

3 жыл бұрын

She ain’t talented for shit. You don’t know what talent is, straight up, you really don’t know what talent is.

@JamesV1

3 жыл бұрын

@@EpioN Do you and your 11 subscribers know what talent is?

@thedisappointed2530

3 жыл бұрын

@@hwfq34fajw9foiffawdiufhuaiwfhw she’s a proficient multi instrumentalist, a nice little song-writer and talented singer. She’s good at what she does, why is it so easy to be dismissive for most of y’all.

@OhhhPez

3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesV1 did you try to roast his subs when it’s apparent he doesn’t care about that?

What is the classical song played at the patreon credits ?

@ryanl3260

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed, that track was amazing

@fantano

3 жыл бұрын

it's from ha-yang kim's threadsuns

@featherycoffee1401

3 жыл бұрын

@@fantano disappointing. Should have used hacker for classical music.

@OwlsSkySailing

3 жыл бұрын

Even after looking up the title Anthony gave I’m having the hardest time finding it, someone let me know if they find it

@adnizzz

3 жыл бұрын

@@OwlsSkySailing Apparently it’s only available at Soundcloud

Also, if you like music written for orchestra, from "classic" classic to every modern iteration of that, it is just great to be able to go see some favourite concert live, played to the very best of human skill. I had the luck of being taken to a concert for the first time back in school. It was a "modern" set, so I was introduced to Prokofiev's "Peter and the wolf" live when I was like 12. That truly changed me a bit. I'll be always grateful for those who choose to keep this format of music alive.

I love metal but good god yes there is a TON of elitism/gatekeeping in that community.

Dj Fantano would rock my high school reunion

@_PuppetMaster86

3 жыл бұрын

“Y’all ready for some *DEATH GRIPS?”*

@rhubarbdude3347

3 жыл бұрын

@@_PuppetMaster86 "Put your hands up in the air!" **PLAYS DAUGHTERS**

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 жыл бұрын

@@rhubarbdude3347 THIS WORLD IS OPENING UP

@rhubarbdude3347

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacksonconstantine5740 I'VE BEEN KNOCKING AND KNOCKING AND KNOCKING LET ME IIIIIN

@jacksonconstantine5740

2 жыл бұрын

@@rhubarbdude3347 I CRY ABOUT IT, I CRY ABOUT IT, I CRY ABOUT IT BECAUSE I WANT TO

3:31-3:37 Exactly. I notice this a lot especially when I go looking for essential album charts/sites listing albums to get me started with a genre I haven't really dabbled in yet.

“Industry plant” means someone they try to pass off as an independent artist. Usually in hip hop. That aside, corporate, major label music at this point is purely a manufactured product, like Cheetos. It has nothing to do with art. It has almost nothing to do with music. They pick someone they think is marketable, usually with pre-existing fame (like “Bhad Babie” from Dr. Phil). They barely need to be able to sing or rap. Autotune takes care of that. They have pre-existing teams of producers and songwriters, and they’ll have ten or more on one track, manufacturing what they hope will be a pop hit, by committee. It is the most purely cynical process imaginable. Some may say, “it’s always been that way”. Not true. There has always been pop music. But the window for experimentation has narrowed to nothing. Back in the 70s, the major labels would sign rock bands, and let them develop, writing their own songs, for two or three albums without producing hardly any sales. They’d get tour support, studio time, everything. Now, there are no artists at the major labels. There are no musicians. There are only jingle writers and celebrities (or would be celebrities). The celebrity is the product spokesperson, the music is the jingle. And that’s it. Absolutely nothing more. Increasingly, they’re just making really obvious copies of existing songs (Olivia Rodrigo has a Paramore ripoff), or sampling existing songs. It’s the same thing with Hollywood, trying to cash in on “Fast & Furious 27”, or “Star Wars Episode 90: You Will Eat This Dog Food And Like It”. Basically, anybody who listens to anything put out by a major label at this point has zero taste in music, only cares about trends and clout, and likes being a sucker.

The classical musician take is weird as fuck. They are musicians not composers. Big difference and like mrmelon said there is a heavy amount of interpretation involved in most classical performances.

Every single time a young woman makes a splash on the scene, “she’s a plant.”

@janine2957

3 жыл бұрын

say it louder!! following Fantano's example, Justin T never had a quarter of the people questioning him as they did with Britney, I wonder wy...

@sabrinasadeghi9037

3 жыл бұрын

Pre sure they said about Bieber. Justin Bieber might be the only male popstar that got scrutinized as much as female popstars in the history of pop music 😅🤣

@JohnDarksoul69

3 жыл бұрын

tbf every rapper is called a "industry plant" these days, too. but yeah you see that more frequently with women that break out for whatever reason

@Dior444L

2 жыл бұрын

never heard of Iann Dior?

if olivia rodrigo is a disney plant then why tf would they put her through bizaardvark 🤔

@svgftw351

3 жыл бұрын

This alone is enough of an answer

@NoCluYT

3 жыл бұрын

They gave her a music career to compensate for that horrible show

@jasvineetsingh8704

3 жыл бұрын

@@NoCluYT they did the other girl dirty then lol

@jacobbelyea7945

3 жыл бұрын

Show was pretty okay honestly, it’s really only infamous for having Jake Paul

@svgftw351

3 жыл бұрын

@@jacobbelyea7945 nobody that ever saw an episode of that show can ever tell me it was okay with a straight face

I've been waiting for this one

Around 2:16, the way Anthony is standing in front of that picture makes him look like he has a long brown ponytail and that just made my morning

2:14 It's nice to see that Fantano is finally letting his hair grow. It looks great!

Being a metalhead myself for more than two decades now, I can see where that person is coming from, but I can honestly say that, if anything, the metal communitys has gotten better recently. Especially in underground circles. Of course, if you only look online, you are going to see mostly the toxic part of it, because that's what gains the most traction online, but in person is a whole different thing. Metalhead are even getting more eccletic, something that would seem impossible in the past. Even Fenriz, the truest of the true, posts about electronic music and stuff like Aurora.

Let’s argue: Madlib is not only a great producer, he’s also a good rapper. His lyricism is poetic, interesting, and witty. Also The Unseen is a classic and you should review it.

@victorjhgf

3 жыл бұрын

Nowhere near as good as quasimoto imo

@IK-yb5rn

3 жыл бұрын

I would compare Madlib’s rapping to Kanye’s. Their rapping is not very technical, but they have this great blend of humor and insight

@Iridesca

3 жыл бұрын

@@victorjhgf lmao

@Iridesca

3 жыл бұрын

@@IK-yb5rn yeah

They're Disney backed, which personally feels more appropriate than conflating them into the term for industry plants. Industry plants have already been described in the other comments better, but to recap, they're basically artists whose info is being covered up to be under the pretense of being an indie artist when they have actually been on the hands of big influential members of the entertainment industry. Olivia Rodrigo and the many other Disney artists that came before her had the pattern where people knew they came from Disney TV shows originally already and then were made to become pop stars. To the best of my knowledge there wasn't any effort from Disney to hide those facts, so they were basically given a great amount of backing to be part of the pop music scene, not be planted insincerely into the indie scene.

As someone who's gone to live classical music shows, I've seen people play their own composed pieces. I even remember there was one duo that had decades of experience in the industry and for the show (this was college) they performed their own piece. What an odd take.

I honestly never thought about classical music like that before

@The last take: This so much, Ensemble Modern and Bernhard Gander's Oozing Earth was one of the best concert experiences I've ever had.

Imagine Fantano dj-ing your school reunions

@craigstephenson7676

3 жыл бұрын

He probably has a playlist for every number. My personal favorite is 7s only

@dustinray1694

3 жыл бұрын

TBAP, Swan, and Danny Brown will definitely be on his set list 🤓

@carrotcake2654

3 жыл бұрын

D-D-D-DJ FANTANO

@carrotcake2654

3 жыл бұрын

D-D-D-DJ FANTANO

Metal somehow harbors both the sweetest, most kind people I’ve ever met, as well as the most abusive, toxic narcissists I’ve ever had the dishonor of knowing. Its a gamble lol

Yungblud literally was on a Disney show for basically half of a season, quit because he didn't enjoy it, and wanted to have a proper music career, went out and started playing to tiny crowds in normal sized pubs, working his way up. Just having "been" on a Disney show isn't really an easy ticket to stardom. Even now you might think he is hugely popular but he's playing 2k seaters at best in the US, and he barely played a 5k gig in the UK, and isn't a top line festival act, He's only 2nd line at Reading because the third line and 4th line are sort of an "everybody else" category, although before the pandemic, Denzel Curry was billed above him at Coachella and now he is billed above Denzel, but it also is in the UK and he has had a #1 album in the UK, so that probably helped him out there. But it was through actual touring his ass off, not the way some ex-Disney people sort of get handed shit.

Thx for your thoughts re: classical, there are so many misconceptions and it’s always nice to be understood :) love, a classical musician (also, noice choice of outro ☀️)

@TheSkoneczny117

3 жыл бұрын

Do you know what that outro track's called maybe?

@pinkstrad

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkoneczny117 Ha-Yang Kim: Threadsuns. It’s on a JACK quartet album

@TheSkoneczny117

3 жыл бұрын

@@pinkstrad Thank you

@TheSkoneczny117

3 жыл бұрын

@@pinkstrad Is there any place online where you can listen to this? I've found some shops selling the CD but no streams, no Bandcamp, nothing like that. Gonna need some more help here :| Edit: found it, it's on Soundcloud! Anyway, I'll pay you back with an amazing polish neo-classical album recommendation: Stefan Wesołowski - Rite of the End

Overplayed songs aren't necessarily bad (though many are), but a song needs to be at a certain high level of quality, to remain listenable after being overplayed. At that point you could argue that they're not overplayed.

I love when Olivia's hair in the background looks like a good wig on him

Such a great channel. Just relentless with the quality content. So smart.

After listening to some man berate a woman across the parking lot, this was exactly what I needed. Good therapy, thanks Anthony.

Notice how nobody ever accuses young male artists of being industry plants.

@fuckagimmick

3 жыл бұрын

kid laroi? yes they do.

@idontevenhaveapla7224

3 жыл бұрын

@@fuckagimmick Not as much as the female artists. They definitely don't spend as much time talking about whether male artists "deserve to be there". Only exception that I've seen is Justin Beiber back in the day.

@WilliamFuckingButcher

3 жыл бұрын

@@idontevenhaveapla7224 What about Lil Nas X

@jamand9201

3 жыл бұрын

Ian Dior

@k-leb4671

2 жыл бұрын

I think it is more common though for industry executives to seek out women to specifically groom into huge money-making stars. Think about the age of jazz, when female singers were constantly sort out to sing the jazz songs of male writers. There's always this sense that women have less control over their musical careers, which goes back to patriarchy yadda yadda yadda you get the idea.

Words cannot describe how much I despise everything Disney

@_PuppetMaster86

3 жыл бұрын

Even Lion King and Toy Story? 😢

@endmysuffering2925

3 жыл бұрын

Damn you a 6?

@shrimp1276

3 жыл бұрын

that’s like half of all things

@Astolfo2001

3 жыл бұрын

I mostly agree with you.

I like to watch your videos to see how your bass playing improves

I thought the title was gonna be "Olivia Rodrigo is a Disney Princess" and I am now thoroughly disappointed.

3:34 is fantano not aware that pop “stans” are some of the worst people to deal with

That classical music take is the absolute worst thing I've ever seen.

Anyone know the track that was played during the patreon credits? Strings were nice, felt like building towards something

2:19 i thought you had hair for a split second and i legit flinched in fear

@pepesempanadas8284

3 жыл бұрын

He looks like that momo thing

2:12 nice hair antknee

There are a lot of orchestral music being written. Specially for movies and video games.

love the ring light reflection in your giant harry potter glasses

the metal arguement has been known forever. hardcore musicians are the same way. ive never vibed with them. at concerts theyre known for leaving or heckle bands that arent that genre, its very lame

Does anyone have sause in the outro/patreon song clip? So beautiful and chaotic!

@TheSkoneczny117

3 жыл бұрын

Scrolling the comments for the same answers rn :\

I feel very concerned for that poor cello in the background photo at 8:09.

yo what was that snippet of classical from at the end. I needa hear the whole thing

The classical musician thing: They're in it because they care about maintaining the tradition of it all. It's quite beautiful really. LISTEN TO YO-YO MA'S NEW ALBUM

@Shpoofy12

3 жыл бұрын

Do you know the song at 9:23?

Melon rocking a full head of hair at 2:15 lol

I love metal more than my life but it’s one of the few genres absolutely infested with elitists in every sub genre

8:02 the Kepler quartet is the first and only group to record Ben Johnson's "string quartet #7". if that doesn't answer this question then i dont know what will.

My question in these debates is always why does it matter in the first place whether or not an artist is an industry plant? Like even if an artist does check off all the boxes of being an "industry plant", if they're talented and make good music then shouldn't that be the only thing that matters? Why does where and how they became successful have to have anything to with whether or not they're good?

@jackie6467

3 жыл бұрын

i think being an industry plant matters a lot when you’re defining an industry plant as an artist who markets themself as having a different background than they actually do and is trying to hide they way they were chosen by the industry to be the next big hit. one famous industry plant example is how elvis was a pretty unsuccessful ballad singer but producers eventually realized that he “sounded black” when singing african american rock n roll and blues, which was gaining popularity but most white americans were avoiding it as not to idolize black singers, so they chose to make elvis a star in order to make black music palatable to a white audience. and in music genres where authenticity and intimate personal experiences are just a part of the songs and culture attached to them, it can damage the experience of listening to those artists. but disney stars going on to make music without hiding their disney past? not a problem, and not industry plants anyways.

Want to see melon with long hair? You don’t have to imagine anymore. 2:14

I feel like she is an industry plant in the same way that billie eilish is an industry plant. She def has connections, but what she does, how she dresses, and all of her music seems to be genuine (at least mostly)

@DR-fc1ey

2 жыл бұрын

If someone goes to Harvard they go their to build a network of connections so they get a massive headstart that the average person will never have, why would you expect someone to take the hardest road there is and accept no help when they can take the best path that leads to the most success it makes no sense, and in the ends its all based on if people like their music or not, if their music is shit and no one likes it then they wont be famous, the idea of an industry plant is fake.

@BK-gk2fj

2 жыл бұрын

WRY Grammy 2022 what she does, how she dresses and most of her music too (sorry) seemed to be copied from Taylor.

@gdaw8326

Жыл бұрын

@@BK-gk2fj Not to mention that paramore rip off lmao

@user-uu5dd5jj2k

8 ай бұрын

She also feeds on negativity. See how that drama she made helped her become a likable victim for the masses

I remember when The Alchemist was in that loosely-Soul Assassins affiliated teen-hop duo Tha Whooliganz. The other guy was James Caan's son. Not sure if it was Scott. Anyway they had like one hit and I can't remember the name of it. The Alchesmist's beats are dope though

Good on the editor for the part from 2:12

Disney always come with someone it's the same story but another decade

There's also been plenty examples of Disney stars whose pop careers never worked out with the same help and connections. Miley Selena Demi were all around the same time, but there have been many Disney stars where that was not their story: Bridgit Mendler, Bella Thorne, Zendaya (yes they still acted, but music careers failed) and probably a bunch more I don't know. Sabrina carpenter is doing okay, but it's not like she would have been booked on SNL for her debut album right away and didn't instantly became a household name

Not a hot take but I respect that you always put the title question first Anthony so I don't have to go searching for it, good on ya

Does anyone know what the classical bit that played during the Patreon subscribers was from? I enjoyed it and would like to hear more.