Leon's Bowser is absolutely terrifying

First Leon Rule: don’t get cheesed. First match: 🧀🧀🧀🧀

@WungusBill

2 жыл бұрын

As if Falcon isn't made of cheese

@asam2738

2 жыл бұрын

@@WungusBill kill confirms do not equal cheese

@WungusBill

2 жыл бұрын

@@asam2738 Lol sorry, forgot that U-air, U-air, U-air, U-air, U-air, U-air, U-air, U-air, into knee ain't cheese. Or the fact that he's one of the fastest characters on the ground, and has good air speed. Not to mention the best magnet hands in the game for some odd reason. Oh, and a no-risk up special that's a command grab and a kill option. A side special that is safe even if it doesn't land. Some of the fastest and safest aerials in the game too. But I forget, the thing that keeps him from being considered cheese is his foot hurtbox on his turn around. Yup, he's definitely not cheese, sorry for the confusion.

@Atomicwaffle50

2 жыл бұрын

@@WungusBill u can DI out pretty much every falcon combo, up b is not unpunishable in the slightest, and with side b; it has a million frames of end lag, every good character in the game has safe aerials. If u learned the mu u wouldn't be so upset lol

@WungusBill

2 жыл бұрын

@@Atomicwaffle50 Defending cheese explains it all

people keep saying fatality was doing bad, but no one gives Leon the credit he deserves. He was in his head, he was patient, and won the set.

@davidk4082

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with what you’re saying but it was incredibly disappointing to see Fatality unable to play around the spot dodges. He just gave up going for them.

@iridescence7554

2 жыл бұрын

Fatality stanboys are just cringe like that

@millionshadesofdarkness2165

2 жыл бұрын

@@iridescence7554 facts

@balls.g

2 жыл бұрын

Leon play style is just annoying. “Don’t pressure my shield or imma up-b, don’t grab me or imma spot dodge up-b” he just relies mistakes to win instead of going out and finding mistakes player will make. He’s just too passive of a player for me to enjoy. Where is the flashy stocks and all that? Leon hands down best bowser.. but very carried by 1 move

@jahmairtrott4635

2 жыл бұрын

@@balls.g bruh stop crying lol you sound upset because he picks good options? Its bowser, what did u expect? If u pressure his shield unsafely, his best option is literally to up b, what u want him to not pick the best option out of shield? Y'all want flashy twitter clip combos from an unflashly character going up against the best falcon where one mistake can equal death. Leon was patient and forced fatality into choosing certain options that he punished heavily. You don't become the best bowser soley off of punishing mistakes especially when at the top level top players don't make much or any unforced mistakes

I love fatility more but I'm low-key happy bowser won because that character struggles against combo heavy characters. He really had to avoid like 15 spike attempts this entire set. One of my favorite things about this game is how balanced it is! It can definitely be better but dam.

@ilovepudding7873

2 жыл бұрын

fatality is cool but the bowser main in me was rooting for leon.

I remember when Fatality said he wouldnt lose to bowser.

@Crxwess

2 жыл бұрын

I do to

@edarkstar

2 жыл бұрын

Pepridge farm remembers

@steez4866

2 жыл бұрын

I do two

@dguespan1290

2 жыл бұрын

Sure remember that too, he was actually excited about it hahahaha

@funjukebox1324

2 жыл бұрын

Am I the only one that feels like Bowser is mad cheap? Like out of all the super heavies, he got a lot of love with his moves...the armor etc

All Bowser mains stand up for our national hero! LeoN's performance was incredibly coordinated and upmost patient for those openings, it's nice comparing his original match ups to how we see him now.

@lgamingnp3612

2 жыл бұрын

Haiii!!!

@xLOVExGODx

2 жыл бұрын

The way that he is able to recover after being thrown off the stage is incredible!

Been following fatality for a while fan of his play and personality, cool dude.. and dang man Leon is so nasty like u can’t do anything but respect that he just knows his character so well and the patience/reads etc. Props to both players

@joseavila6250

2 жыл бұрын

Fatality is a good player, but I think the problem with him is he makes so many callouts before having the time to prove he was right. He should be more humble imo.

Bowser in Smash Ultimate is like the previous Bowsers got tired of being bullied and just decided to go to the gym. He always had the strength in the arms but now his legs are like freaking pistons

I feel like this was a set of many missed grabs

@yuelia9937

2 жыл бұрын

Lame win conditions

@turntech4776

2 жыл бұрын

@@yuelia9937 but grabs aren’t a win condition for bowser

@mahmud7645

2 жыл бұрын

@@turntech4776 command grab is

@fupalover

2 жыл бұрын

Fatality was afraid to go for them

@yuelia9937

2 жыл бұрын

@@turntech4776 go ahead and try hitting bowser shielding lmao. Fatality pretty much had to go for grabs, though his combos are pretty much win conditions against heavies.

As a Fatality fan, I gotta say I will give respect to Leon. He is dedicated to Bowser, a character that shares Captain Falcon's struggles in fighting against the higher tiers. He deserves the win and respect in defeating Falcon, a heavyweight slayer.

It was called the bowserside long before the Patrickside lol

@capitalmedia621

2 жыл бұрын

When did he say it wasn’t?

@omoloburn2513

2 жыл бұрын

@@capitalmedia621 Funny enough, Jesse Park never said that the commentators said patrickcide came first. Both parties merely stated facts. But the lol could be interpreted as him being turned off to the commentators mentioning patrickcide prior to their mention of bowsercide. Edited: side to cide*

@AlainReyes

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah there was no need to mention whats called in nick

@Youre_dumb

2 жыл бұрын

cide not side

@alphajnitro0072

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlainReyes Honestly it was kinda cringe ngl.

5 comments, and not one mentioning how the video freezes at points

@POKEMONSMASHSTAR

2 жыл бұрын

I thought it was my internet connection. I'm not crazy 😧 that's a relief.

@F.R.G317

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you...

@Bones_

2 жыл бұрын

It's like I'm playing online but I'm actually watching a video... I gives that same agonizing feeling though

This set was really hype. I wanted with all my heart for Fatality to win, especially after seeing how he evened things out after 2-0.

@teaguevox8160

2 жыл бұрын

yeah, same. aside from some whiffed grabs it was still a really skilled set from both of them. it was about as close as it gets, great matches. it's all good

@sifumig7492

2 жыл бұрын

Spoiler comment

@newpairofboots

2 жыл бұрын

@@sifumig7492 anyone who reads comments before watching is just asking to be spoiled. I mean what are these comments for other than to discuss how the set went???

@JoJoboiWav

Жыл бұрын

@@newpairofboots.. no ??? what tf is bro saying

This set was insanely entertaining to watch. Fatality and Leon are both so good.

I main Bowser and secondary Captain falcon, I’ve been waiting to see this for a long time

Leon really does have that MKLeo factor where he can get bodied in a set, but then he learns the hell out of the match-up and overcomes the next time round. Heck, he might even have an answer for Tweek this time round.

@HunterOnDrums

2 жыл бұрын

Bad news for you with Tweek brither

@calebw8189

2 жыл бұрын

Did something already happen or is that just your guess?

@dennisd.4726

2 жыл бұрын

It helps when you get a one stock lead and can just kamikaze suicide the rest of the game. Such a stupid game mechanic.

@calebw8189

2 жыл бұрын

So, you think Bowser has an unfair advantage against Falcon? XD

@noahlowrie6742

2 жыл бұрын

@@dennisd.4726 whichever player has the lower percentage influences where the side b lands more. so if you take your opponent’s stock and you are higher than 0, you can’t pull it off

Amazing match. Love to see when the heavies win these match ups

My theory is that there is a mental component of fear involved when Fatality plays pros in bracket, thus hindering his ability to play his best. He has no problem hanging with and/or beating the best of the best during friendlies and FT10's so as a fatality fan, it especially sucks to see him lose to opponents who have a huge MU disadvantage. I was banging my head on the table seeing him get cheesed by 2 command grabs in a row... wtf?!? Props to Leon for making it so far in the tourney though. Takes some insane skill to do that with Bowser.

@ghiblifanta8634

2 жыл бұрын

@@lokks2130 fatality has said that he does have fear when he plays crowds and that it hinders him. He doesnt have fear for pro's though.

@shikarixox1195

2 жыл бұрын

No, Fatality has been competing way too long at high level for "he's afraid of playing pros in bracket!" to make the tiniest bit of sense. Most ft10s are online, high isn't comparable to offline, and even offline and in friendlies majority of pros aren't being massive try hard. Fatality just isn't evolving as well in Ultimate and other players are improving faster than him.

@StephaneLevs

2 жыл бұрын

but even in the FT10, he usually struggle with the first few matches sadly :(

@francoisturcotte3982

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't take insane skill to dp that with bowser. Lmao bowser is brain dead.

@lordoshman6258

2 жыл бұрын

Fatality has gotten 2nd at 2gg Civil War, fighting multiple top players through a bracket where upsets were a commonplace. It was also one of the most crowded tournaments with a crowd more similar to a concert. Fear always plays a part in tournaments but don't see how it affects Fatality placings in tournaments.

As commentators, how do you miss mentioning that double footstool??

“An uh underrated move, that up air- THE KNEEEEEEE!!!!!

I'm not sure there's anything I like watching more then Leon's Bowser , dude is a master of his craft , great set !!!!!

Leon was playing really well here, respect. Think Fatality went for too many shield grabs early on and it cost him a lot of punishes. Fun set though

That was a good fight

Man very good set! Very entertaining

My two favorite players! Honestly happy to see Bowser win against Falcon, usually heavies get bodied.

I love how they were only cheering for fatality at first. Just for him to lose

@anthonyi8484

2 жыл бұрын

Not really

@jessiem.8301

2 жыл бұрын

Literally on the video but ok

Boswer takes so much skill

@martom_x9977

Жыл бұрын

Really easy to learn, really hard to master.

LoL when I saw that this was offline, I was like you can't blame the double bowsercide on lag. lol

@imnotgonnasugarcoatit

2 жыл бұрын

You never can blame bowsercide... I think Fatality just doesnt know you can actually Control it and he wasnt pressing anything. You technicly cant die to it especially around center stage

@Telescreen5

2 жыл бұрын

@@imnotgonnasugarcoatit Fatality is a great player, I'm pretty sure he knows.

@imnotgonnasugarcoatit

2 жыл бұрын

@@Telescreen5 Judging by this Set? I don't think he does.

@johnmarkson1998

2 жыл бұрын

@@imnotgonnasugarcoatit a good bowser will make you forget how to control it.

@imnotgonnasugarcoatit

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnmarkson1998 whatever you say buddy, if you really think that.

Oh my God fatality is so good at calling out people sleeping on ledge

Amazing match!

someone wins this set

@foks0054

2 жыл бұрын

NO OOOOOO YOU PSoiled iz

@nskachuful

2 жыл бұрын

Whyyyyyy

@ljhooka3735

2 жыл бұрын

it's people like you who ruin smash :'(

@sauce8277

2 жыл бұрын

Also, someone loses

Impossible match-up... And he made it work! Fellow Bowser mains let's all hail to our koopa king LeoN He doesn't play Bowser, he IS Bowser

@mysteriousmuffin6017

2 жыл бұрын

fellow bowser main here imo falcon isn’t that bad of a matchup, i think it’s -0.5 personally. the combos are rough but offstage isn’t terrible if you use different timings for up b as leon did here and we can also butcher falcon in disadvantage.

@ellachino4799

2 жыл бұрын

@@mysteriousmuffin6017 fellow bowser main, I think that's a whack take considering how falcon's punish game is light years ahead of bowser's while their neutral is pretty similar

@mysteriousmuffin6017

2 жыл бұрын

@@ellachino4799 is it though? our up throw combos do about as much as a falcon string and we can kill falcon off of a stray hit a lot earlier than he can so it adds up.

@ellachino4799

2 жыл бұрын

@@mysteriousmuffin6017I can't believe you are comparing up throw aerial to falcon's combo game... grabbing falcon is a lot harder than getting a stray falcon nair

@mysteriousmuffin6017

2 жыл бұрын

@@ellachino4799 just use a bait and punish strategy. if you shield a nair you get a grab-. bowser also needs less hits anyway to get falcon to kill percent.

That was a wonderful set. Well played on both ends.

Can someone explain how at 3:30 bowser jumped like 3 times? did his airdodge come back? but his 2nd/3rd jump didnt look like jumps, or airdodges, but weird pop ups... im so confused lmao

@mysteriousmuffin6017

2 жыл бұрын

leon airdodged left, then used his jump, then phantom footstooled fatality

Great set! Great game from both Fatality and Leon. As a bowser main tho gotta say amazing play from Leon!

So cool to see players really push the limits of their characters.

Fatality missed so many bowser up-b recovery punishes, cost him the match

@oliverhartman5055

2 жыл бұрын

as bowser you actually have a lot more control than you think over your recovery. Leon recovered like that on purpose as a mix up in order to avoid (and cross up) Fatality's edge guard or punish attempts

@kockdown3s403

2 жыл бұрын

@@oliverhartman5055 Yeah but fatality never adapted, he was going for the most basic option everytime, which didn’t work

@leonelgore4587

2 жыл бұрын

True bro and and he did not take advantage of raptor Boost at all

You can change where bowser goes with side B is based on if you have a lower percentage

Give Leon his props man. This match up is stupid bad for bowser. The way he fights would make you think otherwise though.

When are they uploading top 8

How do they do Normal PS2 without the settings popping up??? Very confused

@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy

3 ай бұрын

WDYM?

Flying Slam isn’t DI dependent, its % dependent. If Bowser has the lower % he has more “control” on Flying Slam, if the opponent has lower %, they have more “control” over the move.

Someone know how to do the Bowser's move at 8:10 ?

the technicality of both these players is insane

Fatality just played really bad here. Can’t sugarcoat or justify this one. He’s better than this.

@lui1115

2 жыл бұрын

leon is just really good . cant find exuses for this one, ur better than that

@okayperson3041

2 жыл бұрын

fatality played bad? LeoN just outplayed him

@LoofTroop

2 жыл бұрын

@@okayperson3041 fatality on a good day beats Leon easily. It’s not even the players it’s the character mu. Fatality should not be losing this. Honestly just watching all this missed grabs and horrible disadvantage game. Fatality lost because he played bad in my opinion

@okayperson3041

2 жыл бұрын

@@LoofTroop easily? nah. You need to know how much Leon has improved in the falcon mu. This mu is not as bad as people think it is. It's only +0.5 falcon favored. And your "opinion" isn't right either. Fatality didn't play bad, Leon just played better than him which is why he won. Leon avoided those grabs, which is why he won.

@LoofTroop

2 жыл бұрын

@@okayperson3041 no “your opinion is wrong”. Refer to my previous reply for the reason

Despite that first set being an absolute wash, the rest of the match was fun; glad both players got good hits in.

I hope fatality is OK. He played this set like he was hung over.

@isaiahkain4874

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. He was acting totally off

@oliverhartman5055

2 жыл бұрын

nah bro, leon was just in his head

14:42 the commentator nutted

Remember fatality used to destroy Leon. Not anymore

@okayperson3041

2 жыл бұрын

that was just once

leon has to have the most intimidating playstyle i've ever seen

What a set

Where is mvd?

3:48 こうやって崖下に潜るの勉強になる

bro where are the rest of the matches uploaded?

@okayperson3041

2 жыл бұрын

satellitesmash streamed the rest of the tournament.

LeoN: "Don't get cheesed"

Leon's Bowser is unreal

Did bowser get 2 air jumps after an air dodge at 3:30?

@uozzi3014

2 жыл бұрын

phantom footstool

"Neutral B is one of my favorite moves" The move where you stand still and shoot fire for free %. I can see why lol

@2000Doriyas

2 жыл бұрын

Please god nerf this move slightly, even when I play bowser it feels so stupid

@aidanpatrick5334

2 жыл бұрын

He needs it

@lgamingnp3612

2 жыл бұрын

@@2000Doriyasu want bowser to be just a punching bag then?

@medievalprince1

2 жыл бұрын

@@2000Doriyas Bowser is nowhere near needing a nerf lol

@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy

3 ай бұрын

If you mess it up, it can lead to the punish, it's fair.

3:30 why did Bowser have 2 double jumps after his air dodge?

@lgamingnp3612

2 жыл бұрын

Footstool

Let's go Leon!!

Does Leon jump 3 times?

@nathanielbrill1523

2 жыл бұрын

I think he footstooled fatality there.

LEON es mi pinche ídolo ALV. Es una maestro con Bowser

Good set

Damn

Jeez Leon dun leveled up.

Fatality actually said that he was super comfortable going against Bowser on this tournament , he said he was more worried about elegant and others... Well that turned out OK... Right?

@ItchyBurritoMiniAltThingy

3 ай бұрын

It was pretty close

3:31 I don't get it - how is it that bowser jumped twice in mid-air?! Shouldn't he have either cancelled Falcon's up-B or got caught in it?

@lgamingnp3612

2 жыл бұрын

I now understand it was footstool

These are the 2 most aggressive, hype players in the world... and when they face off, they're both just really scared of each other

@nikolasmoret1884

2 жыл бұрын

Leon is one of the most passive players in the game

This is one of those sets where fatality literally forgot that side b exists lol

I thought fatality would be able to control the side b in game one last stock cuz he was lower percent

@A.M.Personal

2 жыл бұрын

Fatality was probably holding out instead of in to preemptively DI for the knockback of the move.

@cebolla1449

2 жыл бұрын

@@A.M.Personal naw that's not how it works the general rule of thumb for how side b influence works is that the player with lower percent has more influence, but there are a few exceptions, usually at low percent. if the opponent is at 0, bowser will have more influence over side b's direction than them until he's at around 45, so leon had way more influence in both of the bowsercides in game 1, since he was around 45 for both of them and fatality was at 30 and 45 respectively

IT'S A KNEEEE

I main Bowser with Dedede as a secondary. I can safely say 49% of the game is all metal. You need a lot of patience and you need to be able to get consistent reads

Was rooting for leon I like fatality as well but bowser is the boss and needs to win lol, 3:31 can someone explain I thought bowser only has 1 jump he jumped twice in the air wtf?

@Ace-dc3zs

2 жыл бұрын

Phantom footstool

These commentators bruh🤣🤣. One dude calm and really analyzing, while the other just screaming when deaths happen and kinda being annoying. Good game tho

What a gruelling fucking mu for Bowser. It reminds me of watching Fox struggle against Game and Watch.

@DemonEyeHelix

2 жыл бұрын

This matchup isn't nearly as bad as Fox vs GnW

@lancerweasle

2 жыл бұрын

leon actually thinks the matchup is even.

@mysteriousmuffin6017

2 жыл бұрын

as a bowser main i personally think this matchup is -0.5 for bowser and -1 at worse tbh.

@sharsasuke01

2 жыл бұрын

@@lancerweasle Bruh, this matchup is NOT even. lol

@lancerweasle

2 жыл бұрын

@@sharsasuke01 i mean, take it up with leon and fatality i guess if you have a problem with their opinions.

learning that in Nick All Stars they call it "Patricide" is so funny to me lmao

How the frig does captain falcon live at 129% from a bowser side B on the top platform. I just really have no idea how to DI

2:04 photos taken moments from disaster

Hearing the Commentators says fatality has control of bowscide, is wild. Smash 4 it was percentage wise, this game it’s bowser. You have almost no control of that. Fatality been in the scene for such a long time. He would of avoid it if he could of

so many whiff grab i don't understand why Fatality put standing grab in neutral

It surprises me that Leon only tries to 2-frame Fatality with f-tilt ONCE in the entire set. I know Falcon is kind of hard to 2-frame, but Leon always makes it look so easy. What am I missing? Also, you can tell they both respect the sh*t out of each other. One hit or grab is life-or-death in this match up. I love it!

@mysteriousmuffin6017

2 жыл бұрын

as a bowser main i’m pretty sure it’s impossible to hit falcons 2 frame with f tilt. also flame breath is just free percent and especially easy to hit on falcon so that’s why leon was going for that

@TheAoki9

2 жыл бұрын

@@mysteriousmuffin6017 That was my guess, but it's good to hear from an actual Bowser main. Thanks!

@mysteriousmuffin6017

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheAoki9 no problem i’m pretty sure it’s because falcons ledge grab animation is lower than a lot of the others for some reason. same with ganon too

@derp4752

2 жыл бұрын

Also as a Bowser main, it's not impossible to 2-frame Falcon with ftilt it's just really hard so usually better to just get the FB damage

@cebolla1449

2 жыл бұрын

yo, bowser main here leon's probably doing it because he doesn't want to risk an execution error like that. Falcon can punish a whiffed f tilt 2 frame with ledge drop DJ Nair and then convert that into raptor boost which usually gives him 80+, since leon is usually around low percent when he hits fatality offstage instead he's opting for sitting at a distance where fatality can't hit him directly off the ledge, and then using good spacing to ledge trap fatality properly bowser's got a couple matchups like this (gnw and palu are probably the other best examples) where the potential risk of getting punished for a dropped 2 frame often isn't worth going for it in the first place

Leon's movement is so good. He knows right where to be and when to be there, very smart playing.

Leon makes Bowser look top tier

Fatality maybe mash a little?

1:30 lol I think patricide means something else

You've gotta give credit to Leon for playing the mu inredibly well. He sdi'd the nairs and upairs down like a mad man so Fatality couldn't get the 0-to-deaths he normally does on super heavies. On top of that, he didn't get up-tilted a single time the entire set, he guessed the airdodge/no airdodge mixup right every time he was put in that position. The only thing I'd put against Fatality is not going for up-B edgeguards enough. Instead he tried to get the spikes which are harder to land on Bowser.

Leon is so cute and I love his bowser play! Good job

@chumfartlin9963

2 жыл бұрын

leon is HOT

Leon did so damn good!

god damn

Leon is the beast!!

can't complain considering both are my mains for ultimate/smash 4. great set!

Fr Bowser is more intimidating in the smash bros franchise than in Mario franchise just saying🔥

@lgamingnp3612

2 жыл бұрын

Cant agree more

@wpower7435

2 жыл бұрын

@@lgamingnp3612 I've been thinking of it for a while Bowser is more violent heck even more evil in this franchise I'm glad Sakurai made him this way

@lgamingnp3612

2 жыл бұрын

@@wpower7435 i like this way too, if not, he was being disrespected way too much like he got dissed by mario by getting said "so long gay bowser"

3:32 Bowser has 2 jumps????

First game especially didn't look like Fatality

Leon is so damn good

Damn fatality must have forgotten about up B out of shield? So many instances where he could have used that in this set 🤷‍♂️

@TheMdub27

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe he didn’t want to risk that against someone who can kill you as easy as bowser

@davidvilla1247

2 жыл бұрын

It’s been a while since fatality played Leon so he must have forgotten the match ups while Leon who was always loosing decided to do more practice with bowser so that he could beat fatality, now if fatality recovers from the mistakes and they okay again I’m sure falcon will be even more scarier

This is a surprising set. Fatality usually beats Leon and plays this match up better.

@kidn00b1

2 жыл бұрын

He’s lost to him before in other majors. Bowser isn’t as free for CF as people think. He’s fast and you can’t shield pressure him and obviously kills super early. Though he definitely should have done better when Leon was offstage

@vaughnsoso4849

2 жыл бұрын

@@kidn00b1 I wasn't saying he never won a major against him but it's usually a close win every round. The first 2 games Fatality was not on his best.

Those commentators struggling for command over the mic.

Arguably my two faves

Here there are people talking shit, Leo won very close, if they had continued playing, I would be closed, they talk too much straw, winning and winning convincingly, not by sheer luck.