this lens is not a Planar symetrical design with 6 elements from the 19th century ! It a seven elements design by Mr Tronnier from Voigtländer in the seventies.
@bumi5178
Жыл бұрын
It was Erhard Glatzel
@Crispy_Bee4 жыл бұрын
The issue with your test wall is that if you're not shooting it straight you won't get is sharp a either side. Especially with wide apertures like 1.8 you have to be very precise.
@ianharper60152 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very useful video.
@davidjenkins8009 Жыл бұрын
I am surprised you have a copy with no play in the focus rack. I have had at least three of these and all three have had play when you change rotation of the focus ring. At one time, back in the early 1980's I had a Rolleiflex sl35E with seven Rollei Zeiss and Carl Zeiss lenses and all the Rollei Zeiss lenses suffered this play. I have had the same in the SLX lenses I have had. I used to think this was only a Rollei problem as I have never noticed this with Canon or Pentax lenses. That is until I purchased the later versions of the Pentax 67 lenses which have similar issue. However, I have to say the performance of all Rollei lenses was always good. Sadly I do not have any of these lenses today, I wish I had not sold them in the 1980's. The HFT coating was developed with Zeiss and for all purposes is the same as their T* coating. People should remember that by the time your lens was made, quite an old lens design but it still produced a competitive performance with more modern designs of the 1970's. So well done Zeiss. I did enjoy the video.
@davidjenkins8009
Жыл бұрын
My apologies, Zeiss started manufacturing it in 1968 (in the Voigtlander factory) so it was not all that old a design but some of the Japanese manufacture's did come to the market with lenses after and the point I was making was the design of the lens was a really good one, it stood the test of time. Rollei started manufacturing the lens in 1974.
@erichartke43315 жыл бұрын
I have this lens without the HFT all metal I got with my Grandfather's SL350 along with a HFT 35mm 2.8 Distagon which has lovely rendering! Nice video.
@doertepn
5 жыл бұрын
Nice. Ich belief the hft one has better a coating. But the 35mm is a lovely Lens! I would love to own one of thoughs! Good for you
@cybermees Жыл бұрын
Merci, thanks, I have this lens! QBM old version, before 1975, all metal (it's not marked HFT in red on the front),, it is not a formula 7 elements in 6 groups? I don't like to use full open optics! I always close a one stop, even 2 stops, the photos are often much sharper and more homogeneous at f2.8, there is still bokeh (I'm not crazy about bokeh, as long as it's smooth) and I prefer sharpness, otherwise why use Zeiss?.I did a test at f2, very surprised at the quality already! ,, sorry for my English
@AlGreenLightThroughGlass6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful lens - I was lucky to get an earlier German made version.
@doertepn
6 жыл бұрын
Al Green - Light Through Glass you are really lucky with that! They are really expensive now... i am really happy with it as well! The picturequality is amazing
@johnsonlee89134 жыл бұрын
Some model the aperture ring is smooth some are not depending on their maintenance.
@ekphotography4 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the Rollei Rolleinar MC 28mm f2.8
@doertepn
4 жыл бұрын
I havent Shot it yet... So i cant say anything about IT. Sorry
@minhhieunguyenthi31482 жыл бұрын
Hi. Could you pls advise which adapter to go with Sony alpha 7r3? Thank you
@cybermees
Жыл бұрын
yes, QBM adapter for Sony E,, or mount m42>sony E
@cybermees
Жыл бұрын
your son is cute! happy parents? may the divine protect you 🙏
@johnsonlee89134 жыл бұрын
No point doing on the close focus distance test. I wound use this prime for shooting open for bokeh and lens character
@peterandrews82235 ай бұрын
This lens is NOT the same as Dr Rudolph's original double-Gauss Planar design. It has an asymmetrical design of 7 elements in 6 groups. There are 4 separate elements in front of the iris, and 3 behind it, with one group being a cemented doublet. The optical performance of this revised Planar is far better than the old 6 element/4 group design.
@SimonRobeyns4 жыл бұрын
I'm like waiting for u to finish your phrase each time haha no wonder the video took 15 minutes :D to be honest the build quality is not all that. The aperture ring feels super cheap and quirky.
@civicdz4 жыл бұрын
Very nice and professionnal review! I wondering the difference between this one the the 1.4? In term of price, it's a big difference.
@doertepn
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a Lot! I Hope IT IS a big one, but i doubt IT! Imagequality wise the 1.8 is a Peak. So price to Performance has to be Bad on the 1.4. but i have Not used it .
@DethronerX2 ай бұрын
Slowest talking, with longest breaks after every 3 words, is driving me insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane
@thomasjbiesewig4 жыл бұрын
Voigtländer SL35 and SL350? They are called Rolleiflex. Also the Rollei Factory in Germany wasn't shut down in 1975. Get your facts right.
@davidjenkins8009
Жыл бұрын
Rollei took over the Voigtlander works in around 1972, and was able to manufacture lenses itself for the first time. The Zeiss Ikon SL706 was rebadged as the Voigtlander VSL1 and launched in 1974. The same camera was also branded as the Rolleiflex SL35M from 1975. I suspect the delay from 1972 until 1974 was due to production being transferred to Singapore and also, Rollei did (apparently) find that the Zeiss Ikon SL706 was rather under developed. As you said, the Rollei factory was not shut down in 1975 but a lot of production was transferred to Singapore during the early to mid 1970's. This included the manufacture of the Rolleiflex and Voigtlander range of 35mm cameras and their lenses. The whole Rollei group was in serious financial distress in 1980 and finally failed in 1981. A lot of the German operation was put back together but has been the subject of a few failures since then. HY6 is still being made by a handful of people in a room in the former factory which is now let out as units. As you say, get your facts right. If you have an interest in Rollei, generally the best source of information is the Rollei Report books by Claus Prochnow.
@davidjenkins8009
Жыл бұрын
Having re listened to the video again, he says that the Voigtlander factory shut in 1975 and not the Rollei factory. So you need to listen more and criticise less. As I said, the Voigtlander factory came under Rollei ownership in 1972 and production equipment was transferred to Singapore with camera production having moved there at the latest by 1974. Therefore the final closing of the Voigtlander factory in 1975 seems very plausible. Therefore I think your criticism is completely without merrit.
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this lens is not a Planar symetrical design with 6 elements from the 19th century ! It a seven elements design by Mr Tronnier from Voigtländer in the seventies.
@bumi5178
Жыл бұрын
It was Erhard Glatzel
The issue with your test wall is that if you're not shooting it straight you won't get is sharp a either side. Especially with wide apertures like 1.8 you have to be very precise.
Thanks for a very useful video.
I am surprised you have a copy with no play in the focus rack. I have had at least three of these and all three have had play when you change rotation of the focus ring. At one time, back in the early 1980's I had a Rolleiflex sl35E with seven Rollei Zeiss and Carl Zeiss lenses and all the Rollei Zeiss lenses suffered this play. I have had the same in the SLX lenses I have had. I used to think this was only a Rollei problem as I have never noticed this with Canon or Pentax lenses. That is until I purchased the later versions of the Pentax 67 lenses which have similar issue. However, I have to say the performance of all Rollei lenses was always good. Sadly I do not have any of these lenses today, I wish I had not sold them in the 1980's. The HFT coating was developed with Zeiss and for all purposes is the same as their T* coating. People should remember that by the time your lens was made, quite an old lens design but it still produced a competitive performance with more modern designs of the 1970's. So well done Zeiss. I did enjoy the video.
@davidjenkins8009
Жыл бұрын
My apologies, Zeiss started manufacturing it in 1968 (in the Voigtlander factory) so it was not all that old a design but some of the Japanese manufacture's did come to the market with lenses after and the point I was making was the design of the lens was a really good one, it stood the test of time. Rollei started manufacturing the lens in 1974.
I have this lens without the HFT all metal I got with my Grandfather's SL350 along with a HFT 35mm 2.8 Distagon which has lovely rendering! Nice video.
@doertepn
5 жыл бұрын
Nice. Ich belief the hft one has better a coating. But the 35mm is a lovely Lens! I would love to own one of thoughs! Good for you
Merci, thanks, I have this lens! QBM old version, before 1975, all metal (it's not marked HFT in red on the front),, it is not a formula 7 elements in 6 groups? I don't like to use full open optics! I always close a one stop, even 2 stops, the photos are often much sharper and more homogeneous at f2.8, there is still bokeh (I'm not crazy about bokeh, as long as it's smooth) and I prefer sharpness, otherwise why use Zeiss?.I did a test at f2, very surprised at the quality already! ,, sorry for my English
Wonderful lens - I was lucky to get an earlier German made version.
@doertepn
6 жыл бұрын
Al Green - Light Through Glass you are really lucky with that! They are really expensive now... i am really happy with it as well! The picturequality is amazing
Some model the aperture ring is smooth some are not depending on their maintenance.
What do you think about the Rollei Rolleinar MC 28mm f2.8
@doertepn
4 жыл бұрын
I havent Shot it yet... So i cant say anything about IT. Sorry
Hi. Could you pls advise which adapter to go with Sony alpha 7r3? Thank you
@cybermees
Жыл бұрын
yes, QBM adapter for Sony E,, or mount m42>sony E
@cybermees
Жыл бұрын
your son is cute! happy parents? may the divine protect you 🙏
No point doing on the close focus distance test. I wound use this prime for shooting open for bokeh and lens character
This lens is NOT the same as Dr Rudolph's original double-Gauss Planar design. It has an asymmetrical design of 7 elements in 6 groups. There are 4 separate elements in front of the iris, and 3 behind it, with one group being a cemented doublet. The optical performance of this revised Planar is far better than the old 6 element/4 group design.
I'm like waiting for u to finish your phrase each time haha no wonder the video took 15 minutes :D to be honest the build quality is not all that. The aperture ring feels super cheap and quirky.
Very nice and professionnal review! I wondering the difference between this one the the 1.4? In term of price, it's a big difference.
@doertepn
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a Lot! I Hope IT IS a big one, but i doubt IT! Imagequality wise the 1.8 is a Peak. So price to Performance has to be Bad on the 1.4. but i have Not used it .
Slowest talking, with longest breaks after every 3 words, is driving me insaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaane
Voigtländer SL35 and SL350? They are called Rolleiflex. Also the Rollei Factory in Germany wasn't shut down in 1975. Get your facts right.
@davidjenkins8009
Жыл бұрын
Rollei took over the Voigtlander works in around 1972, and was able to manufacture lenses itself for the first time. The Zeiss Ikon SL706 was rebadged as the Voigtlander VSL1 and launched in 1974. The same camera was also branded as the Rolleiflex SL35M from 1975. I suspect the delay from 1972 until 1974 was due to production being transferred to Singapore and also, Rollei did (apparently) find that the Zeiss Ikon SL706 was rather under developed. As you said, the Rollei factory was not shut down in 1975 but a lot of production was transferred to Singapore during the early to mid 1970's. This included the manufacture of the Rolleiflex and Voigtlander range of 35mm cameras and their lenses. The whole Rollei group was in serious financial distress in 1980 and finally failed in 1981. A lot of the German operation was put back together but has been the subject of a few failures since then. HY6 is still being made by a handful of people in a room in the former factory which is now let out as units. As you say, get your facts right. If you have an interest in Rollei, generally the best source of information is the Rollei Report books by Claus Prochnow.
@davidjenkins8009
Жыл бұрын
Having re listened to the video again, he says that the Voigtlander factory shut in 1975 and not the Rollei factory. So you need to listen more and criticise less. As I said, the Voigtlander factory came under Rollei ownership in 1972 and production equipment was transferred to Singapore with camera production having moved there at the latest by 1974. Therefore the final closing of the Voigtlander factory in 1975 seems very plausible. Therefore I think your criticism is completely without merrit.
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