Gaming laptops are the consoles in the PC world. What I mean by that is the power efficiency is unparalleled. So at a time where electricity bills are high, this can save you a lot of money per year.

Thanks for the detailed review :) The moment I saw Core i9 13900HX, I thought this's equivalent to the Y9000P Extreme version in China but it's not the case

Thank you for that great and informative video!!!

@arogantech

6 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Great video i just ordered the same laptop and its hard to find certain info sometimes on laptops and your videos covered them for me. My last 3 laptops have been 8750h 16gb’s ram 1070 120hz 1080p display, 10875h 16gb’s of ram 2070S 144hz 1080p gsync display and now the legion that has the 13900hx 32gb’s or 5600mhz ram 4070 and the screen is the 2560 x 1600 240 Hz IPS display with gsync. The only thing i wish it had was thunderbolt 4 ports the helios has 2 i think it was between 3 laptops i was looking at. I almost got an hp omen that had a 12900k 32gb’s of ram and a 3080ti having 16gb’s of vram was very tempting and the acer has a 13700hx 16gb’s of ram and a 4070. I just wish they would’ve done at least 12gb’s of vram on the 4070. It came down to the cpu and the newer architecture and power efficiency of the 4070 but i know the ti would’ve been faster. I got the legion 16 for $1550. And I didn’t need a crazy gpu because i have a gaming oc 4090 amd a nitro 7900xtx on my desktop rigs. You can undervolt the cpu right? I know some manufacturers let you and others dont? And hows the laptop so far any problems? As you can tell i love pc hardware and talking about it.

This was a really awesome video for me. I own a 2022 Legion 5i pro with the 3070 so it was nice to see how much gains I may have going with the 2023 4070 model in destiny 2. Also I think my 2022 12700H 3070 goes just a little bit better than your 2021 amd 3070 5 pro. Thanks for the destiny 2 info on this laptop :)

@arogantech

Жыл бұрын

Glad you found it informative!

Nicely explained everything.

I love people reviews who showing the charged brick

Goated youtuber for suggesting to watch JarrodTech

Thank you very much for testing it in Destiny 2. I don't understand why benchmarks and temp test are not being run in this game too. Like come on, there are x100 more people playing destiny 2 than GTA V or GoW rn.

@arogantech

6 ай бұрын

Agreed!!!!

Hi , what you will choose between Slim 5/7 and Pro 5 if prices are similar,I don’t mind battery and portability,thanks 😊

great job

I need this laptop for my studies but not available in india😭 What is the price and which region?

My dream laptop ❤❤❤❤❤

How’s the fan noise? In quiet mode and balanced

great in-depth review - I am seeing the 80w situation in Furmark and it was after I used a USB-C to trickle charge overnight to see if that worked. I tried the battery disable/bios reset approach, as well as the device security/ddu/nvidia reinstallation in safe mode methods, and I'm still seeing only 80w or less during Furmark. Any other suggestions to remedy this weird limitation?

@arogantech

Жыл бұрын

Sorry, those were the only solutions I came across in my research. Also make sure you update to the latest bios through lenovo vantage. There was one for me out of the box. Hopefully a future bios update will come out soon to fix this bug permanently.

@sasuke_u8688

9 ай бұрын

​@@arogantechhave they fixed it yet

Hello, thank you for the video. Is it possible to undervolt the i9 for cooler temps and more silent operation? In the gaming video you showed. The intel ship is hitting 93 celcius with %10 utilization? Thats insane!

@beardeddragon9255

5 ай бұрын

You don't have to undervolt. The best thing to do without going into bios is to adjust the power attributes in the registry key editor then adjust the boosting mode in the edit power plan menu. Believe me, this works. I have an Acer predator i9 13900hx 4080 and of all the brands, everyone knows that acer has thermal issues. I did to it what I described above by turning off aggressive boosting and enabling normal boosting. Temps went to an acceptable level. I baby my laptops and am very strict when it comes to temperatures. If you ever have thermal issues, give this a try. If you need help, just comment me back here.

Awesome review, im considering buying this but not sure if i should get rtx 4070 or rtx 4060

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

I’ve been really happy with the performance of the 70 series but a lot depends on the kind of games you play.

hey wonderful review im planning to purchase a laptop for architectural purposes i cant seem to figure out which one to zero down on the lenovo legion pro 5i or the lenovo legion slim 7i with the same specs as your gen 8 legion pro 5i

@shrey522

Ай бұрын

what did you end up buying?

What settings do you recommend when playing games? I don’t like tinkering on bios. I just wan’t to play games like straight out of the box. I don’t mind having higher refresh rate like 165-240. In fact 60-120fps is already good for me.

@arogantech

6 ай бұрын

It really depends on the game. You can pretty much never have to go into the bios and do everything from Lenovo Vantage and nvidia control panel. I usually always shoot for native resolution of the display and then use dlss if available or fsr 2 if not and adjust some quality settings to hit the target framerate I'm going for (min 60fps)

Pretty thorough testing and review. Great to see some more in-depth bios stuff and troubleshooting the wattage issue. Waiting on the AMD version to get here. While mine has the slower screen 165hz, it’s rocking the AMD 7745HX and 4070. Wondering how it compares to the intel spec’d 5i in terms of gaming and thermals. Couple of coupon codes got me down to about 1450 pre tax from Lenovo direct

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

Thanks. Yeah I'm super curious about the 7745HX too. Should draw significantly less power under full load and less heat too. I expect gaming performance to be pretty close and maybe just a tad lower in multicore loads. Lenovo prices have never been better that's for sure.

@blynyt

11 ай бұрын

the amd version is far cheaper than the intel version so i really want to know if it really worth it to pay 500 more dollars for slight to little performance difference

@aleksandarpetkov7987

5 ай бұрын

@@arogantechI chose 13900HX for the 7945HX amd !!!

I just purchased the same laptop

Yea, I use a USB C 140w charger at work just to keep my laptop charged and running in normal mode (not battery saver)... trying to play games, I'd rather unplug the cable and run off battery and use the cable to recharge... (if I played games at work... ^_^ ).

about the 100W PD, this laptop should support up to 140W PD, so i guess it would perform much better and thank you, this is a great review

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

Indeed. I still need to pick up a 140w pd to test it out.

@fabianggs6241

8 ай бұрын

@@arogantechcan you please make a short video on 140w pd trying to get the most out of my Lenovo legion but don’t know what pd charger to get

@arogantech

8 ай бұрын

@@fabianggs6241 You'll need the lenovo C140 140w pd charger. I don't have one to test. I do use these 100w chargers which work well: kzread.infodr1PNqD8d7s

Hi, have you tried undervolting the cpu and gpu? Saw bunch of users on reddit managed to decrease the wattage and temps significantly, while retains the same perf Seems like the efficiency on 13th gen and rtx 40 series are pretty good this year

@arogantech

Жыл бұрын

No I haven't yet but that's a great idea. Thanks for the suggestion.

@albertputra6220

Жыл бұрын

@@arogantech Good to hear, all the best. Hopefully you'll make an update video tuning it.

Man I’ve got the same setup except I have the i7. I’m constantly getting DXGI Error crashes on games like Destiny, BF 2042, ESO… should this be an issue with this laptop? I’m about ready to throw in the towel

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

It's been rock solid so far. My son hasn't reported any crashes or issues with heavy use in the last month. You might need to dig deeper. analyze mini dumps, check system logs, etc.

Hey, were u testing jedi survivor with 4k resolution?

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

Native 1600p with FSR 2.0 on quality. This was a while back before all the patches.

If new Legion Pro 5i and 7i are both offered with 13900HX CPU, then what is the deciding difference between them for purchase?

@arogantech

Жыл бұрын

5 tops out at rtx 4070, You have to go to 7 for 4080 or 4090.

Thanks for very detailed video! I have just bought 5i Pro 13900HX 4070 version. It came with 35WW Bios version, now there is 38WW available, should I update it? What bios version do you use? Thnx! Could you please make a quick video about CUSTOM PERFORMANCE settings in Lenovo Vantage software in THERMAL MODE? Also while tasting games which THERMAL MODE did you use, BALANCE or PERFORMANCE?

@arogantech

8 ай бұрын

I don't have the laptop anymore since I bought it for my son who is at college now. But as a rule I always update the bios on laptops especially a model as new as this. I did do a bios update right before he left a few weeks ago but didn't have time to retest anything.

@keyable

8 ай бұрын

@@arogantech Thanks for the info, could you please tell me what THERMAL MODE did you use while making game tests? Performance or Balance mode?

@arogantech

8 ай бұрын

@@keyable performance

@keyable

8 ай бұрын

​@@arogantech Thanks! by the way I put it on Balance, because if I put on Performace CPU TEMP runs between 90-100, any suggestions about fixing it?

@arogantech

8 ай бұрын

@@keyableif it's under heavy load (say cinebench) 95c is actually normal for 13th gen intel cpu's. In my testing destiny 2 hangs around 80c and reternal on epic will touch off of 95c.

Its 2200 cad right now with 240hz 500 nits screen

@hemendraravi4787

10 ай бұрын

165 hz 300 nits -> 240hz 500 nits is a 20$ upgrade. atm

@juaneduardoperezyabar4121

8 ай бұрын

I got i9 4060 240hz and 32 ram at 1600usd. 4070 was 1800 but I read it was no worth the bucks

I bought this laptop legion 5i pro Intel core i7 gen 8. The promlem is that the charge last 2hour and 40minute on time saver mode. And about 1 hour and 20 minutes on balanced With our using dgpu. Does the problem is with my laptop or at all same laptops?

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

Not sure of what kind of cpu workloads you are doing but those times do seem really short. According to this review it should be closer to 5hrs: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h591q657gqu4oLw.html

How do you activate the 240hz? Mine is limited to 165 even though i bought the new Legion 5i Pro gen 8...

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

First, make sure you did select the $30 upgrade when you bought the laptop. Then just right click anywhere on desktop, display settings, advanced display, choose refresh rate

@alexandrusimciuc819

11 ай бұрын

@@arogantech did that, and bought the 240hz laptop... only can select 165hz and 60 hz

@hemendraravi4787

10 ай бұрын

@@alexandrusimciuc819 maybe they made a mistake , try to submit a tiket to lenovo

How much battery life do you get for simple web browsing, youtube, etc. TY

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/h591q657gqu4oLw.html

how long you charge it before it turned on?

Ordered the i9-13900hx / 32gb ddr5 5600 ram / 1tb nvme / 4070 for $2141 CAD from B&H!

@goldwally1428

5 ай бұрын

HOW WAST IT ??

@Jrekt

5 ай бұрын

@@goldwally1428 its awesome

@Fatima_33

3 ай бұрын

after taxes? And how much were the import/customs fees?

@Jrekt

3 ай бұрын

@@Fatima_33 after taxes yes, no import fee’s.

@Fatima_33

3 ай бұрын

@Jrekt what? How? There's two options, did you select the "manual" option for paying customs? In that case sometimes you get lucky.

Do you happen to know if the hdmi port takes input?

@arogantech

2 ай бұрын

It does not.

Can you turn off the power limiter for the gpu if you want?

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

Unfortunately it doesn’t seem like it.

Congratulations for the video, really good! You have gained a subscriber. Do you think this computer is worth USD1699 (before tax) or should I go last gen with a 3070ti for less USD 300? I'm not pretty sure if it's worth it or if I should wait and maybe get some news about voltage limiting in the future

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the sub! Yeah $300 savings is pretty significant percentage wise. It’s probably the better value. I think a lot depends on how much you value dlss 3 frame generation and hardware av1 encoding. $300 could buy a 4tb nvme and more ram. But if you have disposable income it’s nice knowing the 4070 is a bit more future proof. Tough choice.

I don't have much technical knowledge. Just last week have bought Legion 5 pro 2023, 32 GB DDR5 RAM, 4070 8gb, i7 1300HX for 1500 USD. Haven't done any settings in Vantage for dgpu/hybrid. Every setting is on default and It's giving good performance.

@Deevs

Жыл бұрын

Hi! Care to share where you bought this specific one? I am on the lookout on those exact same specs (just i7, 4070)

Can you tell me 3D mark test and cinebench result

@arogantech

Жыл бұрын

cinebench: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h591q657gqu4oLw.html 3dmark: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h591q657gqu4oLw.html

@Scorge120

Жыл бұрын

@@arogantech Any ideas why 5i has a much higher CPU score in Cinebench R23 than the 7i when using balance or quiet modes?

So it's not possible to use an external monitor with the iGPU because all the video output ports are hard-wired to the dGPU?

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

Yes, I believe this is true. It is definitely is this way on my 2021 model.

@MnemonicCarrier

11 ай бұрын

@@arogantech Nice one - thanks! I'll probably still buy one. I'm not a gamer, I'm a developer. I have the 5th gen AMD model, and love it! I use them as Linux workstations. Anyway, thanks so much for the video.

chinese versions of the 2023 model still has that letter "Y" logo at the back of the panel

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing.

Does this laptop have rgb keyboard or single light

@arogantech

10 ай бұрын

rgb by zones, not individual keys.

Watching this on the same laptop but 4060 hahah

is it damaging to have the cpu run at 85C°+?

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

Max temp is 100c so I assume it's fine. Also it is about the same as what Jarrod got: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h591q657gqu4oLw.html

Is the voltage limit still a thing?

@arogantech

2 ай бұрын

Good question! I'll try to retest and get back to you. It might be a few weeks.

@thisis3379

2 ай бұрын

@@arogantechFigure out answer to voltage limit yet on Legion Pro 5i?

whats the battery life like when not gaming?

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/h591q657gqu4oLw.html

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

@Bluecast hmm that seems a bit shorter than expected. I haven’t personally tested though. Good to know.

Hows battery life?

@arogantech

Жыл бұрын

Sorry I didn't test that but check this out: kzread.info/dash/bejne/h591q657gqu4oLw.html

frame drops are realy crazy ill buy when they fix it

@sy0635

Жыл бұрын

It won’t be fixed, the 4070 has terrible 1% lows due to lower bandwidth and bus size compared to 3070ti. You’re better off w 3070ti for best gaming performance

@brodylockwood14

9 ай бұрын

​@@sy0635So 3070ti is slightly lower fps but way more stable?

@brodylockwood14

9 ай бұрын

​@@sy0635I want to get the Strix G15 with 6900hx and 3070ti, it's on sale for $2399 AUD, is that a good deal? The Lenovo in this video would cost me close to $2800. Or can you tell me what the best 3070ti laptop is?

I bought the 7i but downgraded the rtx 4080 to 4070. In a lenovo flash sale and got over 300 off in discount. Mine come with a 300w power supply, i wonder if I'll get better performance than a 100w? Waiting for it to be delivered, can't wait !!

@arogantech

11 ай бұрын

100w PD is really just for productivity work or some really light gaming. 300w will unleash the full power of the 4070 and is a night and day difference.

Jedi was a little laggy

can i put 64gb RAM?

@arogantech

Ай бұрын

specs sheet say only 32gb offering. I think that just means what they sell as equipped: psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/Legion/Legion_Pro_5_16IRX8/Legion_Pro_5_16IRX8_Spec.pdf Reddit says 64gb: www.reddit.com/r/LenovoLegion/comments/17rzufg/max_ram_legion_pro_5_16arx8/

Just bought this laptop for 1200EUR

@311fran311

7 ай бұрын

What specs?

Not performing well... Lagging!

@tomisu117

Жыл бұрын

That can be cause of the game, survivor is not well optimised yet, if you mean this performance

@niazahmed9535

10 ай бұрын

Really?

@niazahmed9535

10 ай бұрын

​@@tomisu117i mean all legions laps of 2023 has the lagging issues I heard and saw

FPS too low plus temps too high

@VERTEXyt01

6 ай бұрын

1399$ 😮