I wish it came with 32 gb of ram and dedicate up to 16 gb to vram. I feel like that would be great for all the current gen handhelds

@ominousview

7 ай бұрын

yep, 32gb would be great. unless you 're using eGPU but then you're not portable

@johnfreeman5956

7 ай бұрын

Totally agree, since textures usually don't impact performance that much. I don't mind "unrealistic" shadows but I do mind when the game textures are a blocky mess.

@mosthated8848

7 ай бұрын

That's next year's handhelds.

@LeeLee-fi7mx

7 ай бұрын

The very reason I pre-ordered an ayaneo Kun with 32gb ram and didn't get the Steam Deck, Ally or Go. Hopefully the mainstream handheld manufacturers will make 32gb standard as it seems like there are more AAA games being released that have heavier memory requirements.

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

@@mosthated8848 Thats why. So they can sell us 2 Items within a short period of time. ;)

Just started catching your videos. Very nice job! Keep these Legion Go videos coming.

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

2 more at least. One next week hopefully!

Thanks for doing this! You saved me a bunch of time.

Very interesting, surprising even. Thanks for uploading your results.

This video helps users to fing best vram setting for a specific game .thaks alot .

This is great video !

In newer games if you play below 1080 which is recommended 6 gigs is perfect in most games but some games won’t cache shaders under 8gb vram like Hogwarts legacy which is a huge bummer

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

HWL didn't even cache the shader with the 8gb setting...

@JstMst

7 ай бұрын

@@Hubwood When you set VRAM=Auto in Rog Ally, "Hogwarts legacy" caches the shaders. Legion Go is a new device. More VRAM options will probably come. So I hope it will be better.

@Rroff2

6 ай бұрын

I believe HWL won't cache shaders with this device due to the amount of physical memory left, after the GPU takes a chunk :( the game hugely benefits even at low settings from having 32GB physical RAM unfortunately never mind whether the GPU in the Go is up to the task or not.

Great content, thank you.

Interesting video, thank you for sharing.

Great info, thanks bud

Thank you for the video! Can you please try the same with full HD?

Thanks for this video❤

@Hubwood

2 ай бұрын

My pleasure 😊

Have you redone this test since 6G has become an option? Would love to know if it’s better to run 4G or 6G

Cant wait for mine to come in, and, for the holoiso or chimeraos to be fully setup.

I can’t seem to run assto on mine it loads in but doesn’t start the race any idea how it can work ?

Excellent video 😀👍 I would like to know if you have been able to play games like Manhut 1&2 or The Suffering 1&2 or Peter Jacksons King Kong on this wonderful Lenovo Legion Go...??? Greetings.

@Raptorialand

4 ай бұрын

Yes you can play them all! Easy

set 8gb vram from 16gb ram and left 8gb for win11, is that really fine?

For a game like Baldur's Gate, what about if you use the Razer Cortex app to put apps and functions to sleep in the background? Would that free up enough memory for it to run better?

@Hybred

7 ай бұрын

That stuff consumes so much memory its function of closing down other apps to free up memory is pointless. What I'd recommend is running a modded debloated Windows ISO with many windows processes stripped out, it frees up 1.5-2gb of memory typically, and if you're only using it for gaming it won't really cause any issues. I'm currently working on a windows HandheldOS, it's in beta right now but there are ones made for desktops/laptops that will work

@nurilalvan2139

7 ай бұрын

​​@@Hybredyeah we need exclusive windows for handheld

@myrontaylor77

7 ай бұрын

​@Hybred for what... you can just use tiny 11. It's windows stripped down for gaming. You can even customize it😮

@Hybred

7 ай бұрын

@@myrontaylor77 Yes but there's better ones than Tiny11. Tiny11 doesn't do enough

Can legion go play inzoi smooth later in the future? I doubt about it..sigh :(((

I have done 6GB, and on ASUS rog ally, I keep getting messages on Forza game that have enough memory for the game.

I just placed mine on 4 GB and is been playing fine at least for the game that I’m throwing in

asingen 6gb of vr. In the new bios update, and in Windows system settings, they assign more virtual memory for the system. This way the games will run better.

The current Bios / Uefi now has a 6 gigabyte option. Lenovo has promised an auto option as well in the upcoming BIOS version.

@Raptorialand

4 ай бұрын

The autooption is there but it sucks for emulators and other stuff.

So the best overall setting would be 4gb instead of going all out with 8gb

I use 6gb and it’s working pretty well

Best setting Legion go 4gb?

There's a new bios with 6Gb option, it will probably be the sweet spot.

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

I talk about this in the VERY beginning of the video and later mention that I don't think it will change alot UNLESS the BIOS itself is providing better performane overall ;)

@NootNoot.

7 ай бұрын

@@Hubwood 😭Ain't no way, the screenshot appeared in the first 10s, and you verbally mention it in 15s LOL I think its time to do more KZread Shorts

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

😂 R.I.P. Attention Span 10.000 BC - around 2015-2020

@whitezzpt

7 ай бұрын

@@Hubwood i watched the video on mute sorry, and was listening to music.

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

@@whitezzpt 😂

Thanks for the video. But i think you should run benchmarks at 900p at which resolution most gamers would choose over native resolution... just a thought.

@ricmane8693

7 ай бұрын

720p isn’t native

Can you make it for Asus Ally?

Great video but most of these games are going to plateau especially the more graphically demanding ones because the gpu utilization is going to bottleneck the performance of the ram

in the flight simulator i want to know with wich graphics you try , high quality or ultra?

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

Medium at 720p

At least you're happy to show games at 720p. Too many folks get carried away with visuals and max settings and expect these machines to hit 60 plus FPS.. You're in a dream world. If dropping to 720 medium means 60fps then so be it. This is not a 4090 pc. It's a 30-50 watt handheld... You will never get 1600p and 60fps even at medium unless it's a 2D or simple indie game. Be realistic and keep expectations in check.

@scottpolston6137

13 күн бұрын

Yep that's so true if you spend the time to get Adrenaline running you can have your cake and eat it to with ESR Frame Gen and Integer scaling it works really well in the games I play it's especially helpful with ghost of tsushimsa I probably need it to run 6Gb for that one and finally debloat the os finally just need to find a reliable debloater to run on it

Do this again with the new 6gb vram update. I think that's the best of them all

@paulmorales4786

7 ай бұрын

Is this an official update or did you use the beta bios people have been sharing? Just updated my bios through Lenovo and still no 6 gig.

@Demon20child

7 ай бұрын

its a beta bios right now. im gonna wait for a final build.@@paulmorales4786

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

@@paulmorales4786 Only available in said BETA BIOS. I would probably use 6GB aswell, but I don't think it would make a difference. And at the same time, I'm a bit afraid that 10GB Left for WIndows and the game can still be an issue. Will have to try to that for BG3.

@Zandercode

7 ай бұрын

It's now available officially, non-Beta, on the Lenovo drivers page for the Go. Edit: Turns out there is a new official BIOS, but it isn't the beta BIOS and still lacks the 6GB option, I checked it myself. Bummer.

24gb minimum which gives 8gb for vram and 16gb for system

I just set the VRAM in bios to auto and let the system use how much it needs.

I have a legion go that i am going to be upgrading the ram to 32gb. Not that it will make a whole heck of a lot of difference on the performance aspect of things. But could be fun being able to use all 8gb of vram and still have enough for windows to use.

@Hubwood

Ай бұрын

will make a difference in quite some games actually.

I have a feeling steam will release a solid handheld next . The deck is too weak. And they need to consider going full 32gb ram. I hope asus which I prefer goes with hall effect sticks. 32gb ram, and they need to not worry about battery at all Sell an accessory they allows us to play for a longer time because NO WAY you're getting better battery than 2 hours tops.. it's too much to even worry about so give us something and make it portable enough but this handled isn't like a switch its gonna be plugged in bedside or u get 2 hours playtime max when playing a heavy demanding game like star field

@Tiralful

7 ай бұрын

This aged like milk.

@loitersquadX

7 ай бұрын

@@Tiralful how? They drop an oled steam deck. Not their next handled

So, at minim it seems as though 20gigs of VRAM would be the best middle of the road amount to ensure most games are able to hit that 60fps mark

There probably will be a 32gb option, but that will be next years refresh, 12 months from now with 8xxx series Apu's, released just in time for Xmas again.

@powerhouse884

7 ай бұрын

None of these handhelds need 32gb of Ram and NO. There won’t be a 32gb option since it would skyrocket the price OVER the 1k range.

@benjiro8793

7 ай бұрын

@@powerhouse884 The price difference between 16 or 32GB is at worst 80 Euro. Its the profits that manufactures and stores go after that makes those differences seem higher. 32GB makes a BIG difference on iGPUs as a lot of games can push past 16GB (system + game data + "vram") resulting in serious 1% issues and lower avg framerate. A 699 handheld needs to be 799 max with 32GB. Not 699 to 999 or some other margin maximizing!

@elcheapo017

7 ай бұрын

@@powerhouse884no it wont. 16gb of extra ram will cost manufacturers 15 - $20

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

Addional 16gb shouldn't raise the production cost more than 50 bucks...

@conner_productions

7 ай бұрын

going from a maximum capacity of 16 to 32 in a handheld would include much more than just the cost of adding a different ram stick@@Hubwood

30W? Over here at 33 watt OC on deck lolz

Next gen handheld console should have at least 24GB of ram. I just play FF15demo with everything at low and reduced windows UI ram usage.. and the ram usage reaches 99%-even while steam big picture and legeion space are turned off. So sad that 12GB ram is not enough

Every country different version? My country available 16gb only

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

This is the 16gb version. This video is about how changing the size for the pre allocated VRAM affects gaming.

So overall 4 over 8 or what do you think

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

I'd go with 4. Maybe 6 once that's available.

You can actually upgrade the memory to 32GB. it's the same exact process as for the ROG Ally or Steam Deck. Even the BIOS editing and flashing is the same as the ROG Ally. It can be done.

@wiraNakamura

6 ай бұрын

Is the ram upgradable?

@lunokarea3031

6 ай бұрын

@@wiraNakamurano unfortunately, you need to pay someone to change the ram and its a hard work (300$). Also, you cant after that upgrade ur bios otherwise it will change the code to detect the 32gb of ram.

24GB RAM would be the sweet spot for 16+8GB VRAM in BIOS. 32GB would be overkill.

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

There is no overkill 😬 And: 24 would be problematic in terms of the hardware configuration. Wouldn't make much sense to me to install an 8gb and a 16gb stick 😅 (I know ddr5 handles dual channel mode differently, but still 😜)

@Echoside7

7 ай бұрын

@@Hubwood On a PC you'd be right but in a handheld like this the RAM chips are made into the bus. So long as the ram number is cleanly divisible by 2 or 4 they should be perfectly fine out side of extra heat and power draw.

@Daburademo

7 ай бұрын

no that's not a 8 and 16 stick. 12GB sticks exist@@Hubwood

best it's 5gb on this 16gb , for ally seems to be the sweet spot

Bro can i5 12 gen rtx 4050 45W 16 gn ram do things like 3d rendering graphic designing blender testing smoothly

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

Yes you can!

I hope this is what nintendo switch 2 gonna be

Maybe the faster ram on the GO makes the 3 and 4gb options more feasible?

@sanyacev

7 ай бұрын

Нет. Windows по умолчанию выделяет 50% от RAM встроенной графике. При 16 гб ram и 4гб выдпленной в биосе видеопамяти. Будет общей видеопамяти в 16-4 = 12гб 12/2=6. 6+4= 10Gb vram В данном случае встроенная графика имеет 10GB VRAM, а не 4 gb vram

So the future of these devices could be with 24GB or 32GB.. no wonder Valve keep to the same SOC with slightly faster RAM.

So leave it at 4gb?

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

Yeah. Maybe try the 6GB when it's available.

I thought you were gonna show us the new 6 gig option

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

That wasn't available when I made this video, also as you can see, right now there is no real difference between 4 and 8gb on the legion go. So 6 won't make a big difference either. Might still discover some games where it matters. The first example even shows how higher pre allocated ram can harm the experience...

Can't please anyone anymore. Always want more of this and that with specs. Why can't you just appreciate what these companies make for us?

@ningyi5727

6 ай бұрын

too many deck fanbois.. always complaining about other handheld using windows and yet they dual boot windows on their deck to play games they can’t on steamos. the hypocrisy is real. if they like steamos so much, they should just play only games that are playable on steamos yeah? 😂

Are those games from steam?

@Hubwood

3 ай бұрын

Some yes, some not.

FXaudio will make your speakers so much better! please like this so people know

@charlierose1708

7 ай бұрын

Software won't fix cheap shotty hardware 😂 they cut corners in all the wrong places 💯 the go is garbage

@timotheviands7562

7 ай бұрын

@@charlierose1708 just say you don't have one 🤣🤣

@ricksanchez7250

7 ай бұрын

​@charlierose1708 yeah my rog ally speakers are trash without dolby atmos

So I shouldn't play set this to 8gigs of vram?

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

I would go for 4 (or6 once abailable) Depends on how you play. The higher the resolution and graphic/texture settings, the more vram you need.

@Mangaki86

7 ай бұрын

@@Hubwood thank you, I will change mine back to 4gigs.

32GB VRAM but also at 8500mhz on LPDDR5X would be great.

Why is the gpu utilization so low in your tests? No way the gpu is being bottlenecked unless the legion isn’t supplying enough power to the cpu.

@LarpingAsALarper

7 ай бұрын

If he's plugged in during these tests you actually get worse performance no matter the profile you choose is. For some reason unplugged gets better performance. The thing is kind of a pos.

@Emma_madison

7 ай бұрын

You can allocate more power to the cpu or gpu if you go into windows advance power management settings Majority of the time on the default,windows caps it at 50% of power

@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords

7 ай бұрын

all the juice going to the CPU, Im sure theres some setting but Idk

Also alloting the vram does make a huge difference because it sets it aside for games directly so it’s not having to swap on the fly from ram to vram in game so idk who told you alloting it wouldn’t make a difference but they obviously don’t know how I gpus work

@johnfreeman5956

7 ай бұрын

Some BIOSes don't actually "allocate" the VRAM. For example my sister's acer laptop doesn't "allocate" RAM properly (still in dynamic mode), but my GF's lenovo laptop does properly allocate the VRAM.

Yep. Thats why i bought the OneXplayer 2 Pro instead

@Raptorialand

4 ай бұрын

can you make a video about it??

The more of these devices I see the more I really appreciate Steams approach, while no where near perfect, as a person that doesn't mind tinkering around to get the performance I want, I dont want to pay for extra bells and whistles when I can save almost $400 by staying with my Steam deck, that being said Idk if I would buy a Steam deck vs these If I own non, I think all of these have a place though, Steam OS will eventually run better on these too, Maybe then Id upgrade but I love seeing these regardless if Im buying one or not

@latem1400

7 ай бұрын

SD2 will be a killer! Bigger screen, more powerful. 720p is completely fine on a handheld.

@DonaldHendleyBklynvexRecords

7 ай бұрын

@@latem1400 yea I think they hype ppl up with magnificent screens only to not be able to run newer games natively, the SD is a fine balance balance to me until they do refine these devices how Nintendo or even Sony does theirs

What about 1080p ??? I guess that would be the usual standard !

@Tiralful

7 ай бұрын

Why would you do 1080p on a 16:10 screen.

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

They have different screens. They don't share the same resolutions...

so this is the evidence that I was right to never touch anything in the BIOS. I will leave my Legion Go at 3 GB as it was shipped. This whole tweaking is just for benchmarks, nothing more.

@Marshbam00

7 ай бұрын

I couldn’t even get Fortnite to run until I changed the 3gb option

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

No you really should change it to 4gb. The 3gb option can cause issues.

How long Can one play at highest resolution?

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

Depends on the game, the settings, if you use an fps cap, display brightness, loudness of the speakers, wifi or not. Somewhat between 60 and 180 minutes depending on all these factors.

@Dexxxterity

7 ай бұрын

@@Hubwood I can’t believe it lasts an hour in highest settings, what an L why aren’t they making batteries that last 4 hours minimum

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

@@Dexxxterity that would demand a 160wh battery that would make the device much more expensive and probably add another 500-700g to it.

@Dexxxterity

7 ай бұрын

@@Hubwood can we change it for another battery?

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

@@Dexxxterity we can't change the battery. No.

Why they don’t have these consoles locked in out the box with the best performance settings possible

@Tiralful

7 ай бұрын

Because they would be an insane amount of work, and it wouldn’t even stay valid with updates and such.

@XxMissingDataxX

7 ай бұрын

@@Tiralful steam does it

biggest issue with lenovo legion is it does not have 32 or 64gb ram wich other chinese developers units has.

@kalebgross1310

7 ай бұрын

Why do you need so much ram?

@HikaruGCT

7 ай бұрын

@@kalebgross1310 Windows eat 7 gig and vram eats 5 to 3 gig and games require more and more so yes in todays world minimum on pc is 32gb

@kalebgross1310

7 ай бұрын

@@HikaruGCT at 1080p you don't need more the 8gb, 32gb is gonna be overkill for gaming

@HikaruGCT

7 ай бұрын

you do. just check the messages below here. you need far more than 32gb i currently own a steam deck wich has 16gb ram and im running steam os and i get OUT of memory errors constantly when playing games at 1280x720 pixels especially games such as diablo 4 or gta v or world of tanks or world of warships or many many many other games. 16gb ram DOES not cut it. not by a long shot. minimum today is 32gb and it will rise to 64 gb @@kalebgross1310

@ningyi5727

6 ай бұрын

that’s why the gpd variants are much more powerful

the right thing was to have 32 GB RAM options to sell

Cheat-code: Up the textures to max and everything else to low. You keep the good looks and also the good performance.

@Splarkszter

3 ай бұрын

RAM AND VRAM IS CHEAP. DON'T LET COMPANIES SCREW US OVER THE MOST CRITICAL AND CHEAPEST COMPONENT

@Hubwood

3 ай бұрын

Oh look, I actually made a video about that ;) kzread.info/dash/bejne/iZqIrsOYZNCeg8o.html

A 24gb RAM model would be great. Should be cheaper than 32 and with 8gb allocated should leave 16gb for the system

hi guys what do you think about getting GDP win max 2 with 64gb of Ram or Legion Go. Almost same price in my country.

Gen 2 (personal) wannabe list - OLED screen - Next gen chip from AMD - 32gb ram option - vrr - magnetic keyboard/trackpad case - Steam-level software - Better joystick (I keep press the back buttons while playing and don't like the unmatched - vertical on one side and horizontal on the other) - Docking station with external graphics (similar to rog xg mobile) - Slim case - Collabration cases with y700 (Nintendo ds like form factor) - official pen support (4098 level) (two or three of them will suffice)

I barely get above 20fps with 4gb on hogwarts legacy and I’m playing on low settings

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

800p Low? Using the 30W Custom Mode in the Settings of the LEGION GO?

@jordancotnoir3533

7 ай бұрын

@@Hubwood 800p, everything set to low, vram at 4gb, updated drivers, 30w custom tdp

Just remember, you take 8 gb for VRAM you are only left with 8 gig of RAM

@InceptionAnims

5 ай бұрын

What does that mean

4gb is best option for battery life and gaming performance

@Hubwood

22 күн бұрын

The size of allocated vram has no impact on battery life

I ordered it but the problem isn't the fps but the battery I think will last even less like my ally 😂☝️🇺🇲🇮🇹

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

It lasts about 20% longer when using the same power modes.

@alexandergozzi25

7 ай бұрын

@@Hubwood Let's hope bro because this is a nice car.. I can't wait to get it..

This isn’t for larger capacity. This is only recommended in scenarios where the igpu is severely lacking in vram, Like a 3250u for example with 256mb of Vram.Make that larger and have enough RAM. I must say youll see most of it probably in the ram upgrade lol scams

@Hubwood

5 ай бұрын

No, that's not how that works :) It actually does have some kind of effect. Especially for the Asus rog ally. Also the size of igpu ram really can affect the performance by a bit.

I just set it to auto

@Hubwood

4 ай бұрын

🤷‍♂️

Man the software on this thing suuuuucks at the moment.

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

The Legion Space? Yeah i don't like it either. But they are working on it.

I was going to buy one but thank god for all these reviews.Seems pointless having such a high res screen only to have to use 720p medium settings to get anything decent/recent to even work

@Antisocialnerd2

7 ай бұрын

The legion go normally plays 800p and the high refresh rate is for battle royale PvP type games like Fortnite.

@beastydrummer06

7 ай бұрын

Because 800p still looks great on this screen 🤦‍♂️ so no it’s pointless. Hell I’m running Starfield at 1050p on the go and it looks excellent and better than it did on my ally.

@pumpaction2010

7 ай бұрын

You'll just be missing out on all the fun 😋

@CraigLondon

7 ай бұрын

@Antisocialnerd2 Battle Royale games and such are not what I play. I think the initial thoughts were you'd be able to play triple AAA games and such on it and it had a 1440p,144hz display but the reality is, you can play them...but only in 720p etc on medium settings. Turns out it's actually just a slightly better Steamdeck

@itsquiwi8780

7 ай бұрын

this is just lying lower res never looks better and you made up that res aint real@@beastydrummer06

looks like its a bad idea to buy these handhelds.. RAMs being the bottleneck

I think they should release this console every 3 years and work on a better OS. No one wants to play on windows lol.

@Hubwood

2 ай бұрын

Uhm...I do actually 😅

Safe deutscher😂

@Hubwood

16 күн бұрын

Das hat dir der Teufel verraten 😱

Its almost as if Lenovo and Asus have no intention of you keeping their systems for a long time. I have 0 interest in any handheld in 2023/2024 that has 16GB of shared RAM. 16GB is the standard set by the Steam Deck nearly 2 years ago on an 800P screen and far lighter Linux based OS. 16GB for a 2560 X 1600 screen and Windows 11 in 2023/2024 is planned obsolescence.

@Hubwood

7 ай бұрын

Well. I won't deny that...

😂 everyone keeps bringing up the screen being higher resolution but it still has to run games at 720p to be playable 😂 720p looks great on a 7in 1080p screen with VRR, 720p on a 1600p 8.8in portrait display with no VRR looks horrible

@crestofhonor2349

7 ай бұрын

Not with integer scaling down to 800p

Why not leave the Lego at 8vrarm?? It effects so much the battery?

@Hubwood

6 ай бұрын

No. But it leaves you with 8gb system ram only. Not enough Imho.

@Snapshot.Geo07

6 ай бұрын

@@Hubwood I didn't know that CPU graphics takes the Vram from Rams . I see yeah indeed 8ram is low . So of LeGo had 32g ram will had a better performance i guess.