Loved this.

@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori

3 жыл бұрын

*Yes*

@AlecLangton

3 жыл бұрын

Love you. 🖤

@Lavi-Aemilia-Astori

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlecLangton love you too

@linjicakonikon7666

Жыл бұрын

Hey everybody! Matt Day loved this!!! 😂😂😂😂😂

The Canon P was the economy stripped down model, aimed at the overseas(American) consumer. For an upgrade from the P, consider the top of the line Canon VT deluxe or VIT especially if you are left eyed.

Right on ! I've had a Canon 'P' for a number of years now (as well as Leica M3's) and the 'P' is just wonderful camera . I always thought that it was telling that when you read a lot of Leica posts on the net that they say 'Oh , you've got to get it CLA'd every couple of years ' while Canon 'P' posts just say ' Oh, just go out and shoot and enjoy ' .... Anywho , I didn't hear you mention one of its strongest selling points , The swing back ! ....... Great video ! Cheers ...... :D

Fell in love with your content, keep up the good work! I love the historic part !

@AlecLangton

3 жыл бұрын

La Table Ronde airsoft thank you! You guys are the inspo for all the research and hard work!

I really should have looked into this one sooner ... thanks for the heads up! Great rundown of it.

@AlecLangton

4 жыл бұрын

It's a personal favorite of mine. Thanks for the input!

Just bought a repainted one in Mint condition w/ CLA.. Thanks, Alec!

The M3 has a nicer range/viewfinder (projected instead of reflected frameline, sharp-edged rangefinder patch) but everything else is better on the P. One fave feature: the shutter curtains are epoxy-coated stainless steel, while on the M they are rubber-coated cloth. Yes, the Canon curtains can get unsightly dents/wrinkles (which almost never affect its operation) but sunlight won't burn a pinhole through it, which can and does happen on all film Ms... and boy is that expensive to fix! Another bonus: unlike any Leica, the P's viewfinder is 100% life size, which means you can keep both eyes open while using it... it's like you're not looking through a camera at all, except the rangefinder patch and frame lines are just magically floating in your vision to show you what will be in the picture. QUESTION: The black paint job on your P looks really nice... did it come to you that way, or did you have it painted, and if so by whom?

@nicholasbello4897

3 жыл бұрын

Check out shueido camera, he repaints rangefinders, but they are usually over $400.

@AlecLangton

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, agreed, and agreed! As for the paint job, it is a repaint. I’ll find the link to the gentlemen who performed it on this camera and send it your way, as the quality is superb!

@robertbosson5223

2 жыл бұрын

Original black paint P's are unicorns, if you came across one I think you'd know! lol

Great video, subbed and looking forward to more!

@AlecLangton

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub, glad you're enjoying the content!!

Wow, well done! Clear and accurate review.

Great video....and explanation on both cameras ..Alec

I own one and totally in love with it ❤️

I‘m having real trouble focusing with a film SLR, especially when I have to focus at a wide-ish apertures and the subject is moving, like I often do on the streets. Using auto focus feels very detached from the photography process and it can miss more than I’d like. When I’m shooting with a rangefinder, especially with my M5 I have dials for every setting I need. I can use all of them through muscle memory. And I can actually reliably focus moving subjects. The reason I shoot rangefinders and I’ll never be able to go away is that I’m completely responsible if the image gets messed up. I am taking the picture not the camera. This doesn’t go so much for the M6 since it’s finder flare is so bad, so often that it’s sometimes not really my fault when something isn’t in focus. Just because I haven’t said it enough, but I really prefer the M5. It’s build as the successor to the M3 so it’s still incredibly well made and the purest metered rangefinder experience. Another reason why I shoot rangefinders is that there’s almost no vibration from the shutter and no mirror, so I can handhold really long shutter speeds.

The 35mm SLR goes back to the mid-1930s (Exakta), almost as far as the Leica and Contax. However, the modern styled 35mm SLR with interchangeable lenses didn't start getting popular until the latter 1950s. Some of the reasons for such delay may be those mentioned in the video, but the primary reason was a matter of lens design. Until the late 1950s, wide angle lenses used optical designs which required that they be set close to the film plane, and therefore, they would infer with the operation of the reflex mirror in a SLR. This was overcome when a completely new lens design (retrofocus) was developed to allow the rear element of a wide angle lens to sit sufficiently far from the film to allow a swinging mirror to operate. The earliest of such lenses were relatively poor optically, which is why Contax, Leica, Nikon and Canon all made only RF bodies until the late 1950s. The pioneers of SLR development were the lesser companies, such as the East German camera industry (several brands from one organization), then Pentax (Ashai) and Miranda in Japan.

Hello. I would like to ask for your advice. Right now I'm interested in the Canon VI and P. I can't decide since they're both beautiful. Which one should I choose? And is there a 50 mm 1.4 chrome lens and is it expensive? Or is there any substitute?

Hello. I would like some advice. I can't decide between VL and P which one should I choose. What are the advantages and disadvantages of each one? And the 50mm chrome lens, which one should I choose, 1.2 or 1.4?

I looked at an M3 in an auction. It did not feel right. I bought my Canon P last year and this feels just great.

@AlecLangton

3 жыл бұрын

Tuisitala love both, but I’m glad you found the right fit!

@tuisitala9068

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlecLangton I found another M3 in an auction. This was near mint and I bought it. It is now my favourite and main camera along with my 111g but the P is still great and would highly recommend it to anyone. It is slightly easier to load and re-wind and of course has the 35mm frame line.

The P’s closest competition is probably the M2, not the M3 simply because of its viewfinder specs and 35mm framelines. If you like the P, I highly recommended the Canon VI-L which is the more “pro” version with selectable framelines, and the ability to mount secondary viewfinders with parallax correction.

@AlecLangton

2 жыл бұрын

This is great information, thank you so much for sharing!

What a lovely question. Why do people still shoot rangefinders. I've shot a lot of digital recent years and having a display type viewfinder shows you all technical data, what the photo is like and whatnot. Yet I just love focusing with a viewfinder. Perhaps some day I can justify a digital one. So, old Leica gear or my trysty Bessa R2A it is. Film costs a lot nowadays but it makes me think more and reject the worst shots before pressing the shutter. More is not always better.

Wow your specific model looks soooo good.... I might be able to buy a m2 for the price of the CLA/service from my local photoclub where just me and my friend are really into film and it has been standing in a glass case for the last 20 years hehe

Surprised you didn't mention lens slap. I have a couple of SLRs I don't use much because the mirror slapping up shakes it enough to mess up the image. Great video, Thank you.

@AlecLangton

2 жыл бұрын

Good point! I'm still experiencing all of these issues in real time, I think I'll try to do an update video of sorts in the future :)

Good stuff! I would also be interested to see some images. Subbed!

@AlecLangton

4 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it! Working on a little photo trip video with this guy right now. Cheers!

Another reason to use a rangefinder is there is no reflex mirror so no mirror slap which can give you camera shake especially with medium format cameras. Personally I find the rangefinder easier to focus with bad eye sight too. Then again my Zorki and FED rangefinders have built in diopters so no need for my glasses.

Nice review on the mechanics, actually the reason (my take) is the technology didn’t die for the rangefinder, due to the makers. Same reason the mechanical watch is preferred over the quartz, both are amazing, but who makes it counts.

"Why do people still shoot rangefinder cameras?" Because they look cool :)

What a cool comparison! Canon P the a great alternative to the Lieca M3 sysem! I am buying you on that one, buddy! Cool!

Is yours repainted or an original black? Can’t find an original anywhere and curious on how durable the paint is on repainted

@AlecLangton

3 жыл бұрын

Jonah Villegas mine is repainted! I too could not find an original in good condition like this one anywhere. Waited months and finally pulled the trigger on the repaint-I must say, the durability has surpassed all of my expectations! I’m absurdly rough on my cameras... the repaint has held up with very minimal signs of wear after months of daily use.

@AaronAnalog1

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlecLangton who/where was it repainted?

M3 can accept better lenses than the P as well as any lens that came on the Canon P. I like the Canons as well (the Canon 7 is fantastic) and certainly nothing wrong at all in shooting them but the M3 is a higher quality camera. Why pick one? I shoot & like the both.

@xxGravyBabyxx

4 жыл бұрын

While you can you use any m mount lens on a leica, why do photographers need more than 1 or 2 lens on a compact camera? A 50mm and 35mm are enough for 80% of shooters. No need for an abundant of glasses. I might pick up a canon p restored and CLA for $500 👏

@AlecLangton

3 жыл бұрын

Totally see your point. As for myself, and my videos will show, I haven’t chosen between Leica and canon at all 😅 I love to shoot it all. But sometimes economical decisions must be made.

@evopanop

3 жыл бұрын

@@xxGravyBabyxx I completely agree. I have a Canon P as well, with the Canon LTM 50/1.4, 35/2.0, and the 100/2.0. All seem to be very fantastic, sturdy, and reliable lenses so far.

Rangefinders are the bee's knees. Love your narrative, nice delivery . A couple points on the viewing window: there is air around the capture image area that allows you to see what is coming into the frame, and leaving. Also the other eye integrates well with the image taking experience because you are using that eye to see what is happening beyond the camera body.

@AlecLangton

4 жыл бұрын

Love the input! I think this thought process deserves a video of its own... mind if I? 😂

@myoung48281

4 жыл бұрын

@@AlecLangton of course, you have an awesome style, would love to watch that one.

vibessss. subbed

1:11 Isn't it a little ironic to use the viewfinder of a mirrorless XT2 to talk about the mirrorbox/pentaprism reflex of an slr? Nice comparison!

Great video. I love my P! Btw P stands for “popular” - it’s like canon knew it would be big 😊

Rangefinder have less internal vibration and don’t have mirror flop which allows one to shoot the rangefinder at much slower speeds handheld. Also they are much quieter than a slr.

Strange,I've never even heard of the Cannon P. But if you want a really cheap camera that will be tough enough to blugen a man to his death- you'd want a Kiev 4.

A couple of minor disagreements. I think the Leica's VF is superior for two reasons: it is as close to the corner as physically possible; and the frame lines are illuminated. The Canon P is arguably better value than the Bessa R, too, although I haven't used a Bessa really. On paper it does have some advantages, although the light meter is neither here nor there for me.

@AlecLangton

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your input! Always happy to hear thoughts from others with more experience. My goal is just to start the conversation if I can :)

Sure is a beauty. Sleek black.

The arguement of blackout is all about capturing moments on movement.I shoot both slr and rangefinders (who doesn't,to be fair) and if i want to capture a moving car or a hand movement,in slr i should double check that i caught by taking multiple shots,in rangefinder i now what i've shot.Abother thing about blackouts is long exposures.In long exposures of a minute or so you have no vision of what you're shooting in slr.

The black paint of Canon P is no longer cheaper than M3 though, what a bummer

I love my Canonet QL17

It really is a nice camera

Was it cold?

@AlecLangton

3 жыл бұрын

Bruno always. Why pay for heat when I already have hoodies?

I went with the Canon Model 7 instead. Throw a Jupiter on it and you can't beat it as a bootleg Leica

@AlecLangton

3 жыл бұрын

GameMisconduct video definitely coming soon on the Model 7, I can’t disagree.

The Leica and Nikon S were higher end cameras. Even today you will pay three times or more for a Nikon S. The Canon P was the consumer grade camera. Well built and fantastic.

But M3 has different lens mount

Why do I stil shoot with rangefinder cameras? I believe I don't have a proper, objective reason, other than simply "because I want". Is rangefinder more compact than SLR? In general yes, but there are also really compact SLRs like Olympus OM-1 or Pentax ME, which fits easily in my jacket's pocket. How about silenceness? A bit, but in most of my daily situations, a silent camera like M3 vs loud one like Pentax 67 don't differ significantly on the street. Most people simply ignore them. OK, perhaps I need to be in such situation where being silent is a must, like watching opera. BTW, if I'm on bigger budget range, definitely would pick the Leica. Not because it's made in German, but because it has access to more modern lenses. You can't afford the latest fancy 50 Summilux ASPH APO bla bla bla? No problem. Zeiss and Voigt provide one which is more affordable. On the other side, beside Voigt, there's no modern screw mount lenses for Canon P. You are practically stuck with old lenses, which is not necessarily a bad thing, though. Lenses are just tools, eventually in the end it depends on your artistic taste.

There is the fun factor... The fiddling and sense of control

Love the video, and you are Right seeing the Canon P on Ebay is affordable. As when I got my First true RF which it was not Leica but a Yashica YF that look like a M3 as I shot I think maybe 80rolls, and also took with me to Japan as I had my 2nd look photo shooters looking at me, and one of them at a Used Camera Store in Shinjuku want to buy it as I said no, as he told what I will pay you in US Dollars $$$$, But I said no as it is only a camera that shoots, and from the late 1958 - I know that Minolta did place a 35mm RF called the Minolta Sky as only one was built. I am happy in what I have both RF, and SLR, and yes that you shown in your video a Fuji XP1 model in happily I have it as I use Old Nikkor lenses as I am very happy to use them but I have my share of Rangefinder line as the following: Canon 7 Canon Vt Yashica YF 1958 (Leica M3 Clone) Olympus SP Olympus RC and my Babies Contax II, and III as I use Russian optics the Jupiter Line... Like the Zeiss very Sharp, I only use B/W Film, as have taken them to Japan, and have done street photo on them.... But very well inform video - Thank You... And I will see your videos too...

@AlecLangton

3 жыл бұрын

Alex Carrillo wow, thank you so much for your contribution to the conversation! You certainly have a bit more hands on experience that I’m looking to acquire!

Shueido?

Sense all the body does is to hold the lens and film. If using a Leica lens with the Canon P and a Leica M3 or M6 could you really tell and difference. Everything else being equal.

If they would just get rid of the extra framelines and just use the whole frame for a 50mm lens, it would be wonderful. The camera simply is indestructible.

why people use film leica/canon rangefinders if there is relatively cheap nikon f100 that makes everything with film?

@user-cd8ri1mc6s

10 ай бұрын

F100 is too electronic, too automatic. A plasticky blob. Why not get an F3, a lot better camera?

these have shot up massively in cost. I'd love one but theres no way im paying 1000 AUD for a body and lens

Nice video. Have both. Canon easier to load.

More review and photos taken from a canon p

@AlecLangton

4 жыл бұрын

Will oblige!

Hella Kurt Cobain vibes bro

@AlecLangton

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll take it. Thx 🖤

I don't know Kurt Cobain was into photography

purely by aesthetics, the Canon P is as good looking if not better looking than the Leica M6

It's easy to reproduce something, when someone else did all the thinking for you!

@AlecLangton

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed? Confused, but in agreeance with your statement...

@dizzybuizzy9347

3 жыл бұрын

@@AlecLangton At the time Leica and Zeiss were the main German Camera manufacturers, and took the Time and Effort to Design, and Engineer their Cameras. All the Japanese, and the Russians had to do is Copy their Designs, which didn't take much thinking except taking things apart, and make exact Copies. How hard is that? It took the Japanese 50 years to come up with their own stuff.

In hands of an artist a Holga can produce more valuable work than a Leica or any other camera.

It does not have the Red Dot.

@AlecLangton

3 жыл бұрын

Martti Suomivuori shhhhh..... nobody else noticed yet...

2022 here and your black bodied Canon P costs a hella lot more these days

These two cameras are incomparable.. M3 is much more significant in the history.

@BennyCFD

Жыл бұрын

Yes the Leica has a significant, but in the final analysis 100 mixed photos taken by both cameras on a wall you would see very little different. So why would you pay 400% (4X) more.

A brief Comment- You’r talking- They´r NOT at all comparabel, when it comes to The Basics fundaments! To be a reliable Film camera of the best quality- That´s it... Period! 😂

Lol Canon copied Leica, they didn’t consult

@user-cd8ri1mc6s

10 ай бұрын

Then name me a Leica IIIf or IIIg with these features. Sorry, Leica never built a screw mount with these goodies. I

@benbunch4159

5 ай бұрын

Does the word "like" mean something to you?

yak , yak, yak ...

@AlecLangton

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the completely useless feedback! I noticed you don't have any uploads. Want to give it a shot and let me know how it goes for you?

Silly premise. "Some maintain that rangefinders vs. SLRs." Who cares what your eyeball-hoping opinion is? This is KZread garbage.