Leica M-A vs Leica M4

After a year or so with the Leica M-A, and having owned a Leica M4 for a few years beforehand, I share some thoughts on the minor differences, pros and cons. Functionality aside, there are some other important considerations to factor in between the two.
I get asked about the subject often, so this livestream is also to answer a few of the most common questions until I do a full review of the M-A.
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  • @biglenslittlelens8162
    @biglenslittlelens81622 жыл бұрын

    Sold my M7 for an M-A. Eventually electronics fail so the M-A was the way for me to reduce that risk in the long run.

  • @ivanov9693

    @ivanov9693

    Жыл бұрын

    I've talked to a Leica repair Techie, before deciding which model I was getting. I've asked him which Leica M he saw the less to repair, and therefor, what was the most reliable. He replied Leica M3. After the Leica M3, Leica started to use gears made of plastic that eventually failed.

  • @Protogen82659
    @Protogen82659 Жыл бұрын

    Nice piece…enjoyed it. I had a M3 that was having issues…. I too found a new /used MA and picked it up. Very happy. Will be in Melbourne on Feb and hoping to get out a few times. Will look out fr you:)

  • @benblacket6136
    @benblacket61362 жыл бұрын

    Hi Hashem, I'm a bit late to the party-but one thing that isn't often mentioned is the frameline size difference between pre-28mm frameline models (accurate at 1m) and 28mm frameline models (late M4-P & M6 onwards-accurate at .7m). So between M4 & M-A, M-A framelines are smaller and less accurate towards infinity as the actual field of view grows. Not that the M is designed for ultimate accuracy!

  • @TitleDS
    @TitleDS4 ай бұрын

    M-A is the one I aspire to own, I appreciate how they won't go cheap on any components of the M-A and feel the matte-black finish attracts me so much.

  • @Ratfish09
    @Ratfish092 жыл бұрын

    Love your channel man! I managed to burn some holes through my M4's cloth shutter with my 50mm on a sunny day haha. Have an M-A coming in the mail tomorrow for the same reasons as you and might sell off the M4 after a CLA and shutter cloth replacement. Anyway hope you're still shooting and staying safe in Australia.

  • @pushingfilm

    @pushingfilm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Ah, that's a bummer... was it sitting in the sun for a while to burn the shutter? I sometimes worry about that, but heard you have to leave it for a little while with a certain aperture range? Good to hear that you got the M-A though! Congrats 👍 Not shooting too much lately, but when our lockdowns start to lift I certainly will be :-)

  • @tomasharan2540
    @tomasharan25402 жыл бұрын

    i like how you say that the light meter would be distracting, i was thinking the same thing. i like the attention spent on the scene

  • @gilang6710
    @gilang67102 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man. Got an M4 earlier this year after watching your M4 review a couple times. I really enjoy it and now i’m only thinking about getting a leica glass once the budget’s ready. Not interested to upgrade/swap to another leica body since i’m satisfied with this M4, and i got mine in near mint condition.

  • @pushingfilm

    @pushingfilm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice, that's awesome to hear! Yeah I still think it's one of the best cameras you can own 😁

  • @baladino
    @baladino2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve owned my new MA for about 2 weeks now. And enjoyed watching this video again twice as much. Black chrome looks much better than black paint or silver chrome for me. The viewfinder feels brighter to me than the one on the MP with its light meter readings.

  • @pushingfilm

    @pushingfilm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome! Glad that you're enjoying it, I do like the black chrome too 😁

  • @c.augustin
    @c.augustin2 жыл бұрын

    In the end it's all about frame lines. I had the M6, M3, M2 and MP, and while I can shoot without 28 mm, I found 75 mm to be essential for me (and 35 mm). So, in the end, I would only buy Leica models with the full set of frame lines.

  • @FrPi66
    @FrPi6612 күн бұрын

    Hello Hashem, seeing that you travel a lot with your leica m camera, I suppose that you have time to time to align your range finder. As this could occur at any time, just after a flight or a bad road travel. It's frustrating to discover that the pictures you take are fuzzy. How do manage that problem ? On digital leica M, it is "more easy" to see the problem and align it horizontally doing photo and checking immediately the result, but how do you do that on a film camera. Do you send it each time to Leica ? Regards and thank you for your inspiring video.

  • @dmitrybelyakov
    @dmitrybelyakov2 жыл бұрын

    Kodachrome was a good movie.

  • @pushingfilm

    @pushingfilm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I really enjoyed it! 🙂

  • @FILMISNOTDEAD91
    @FILMISNOTDEAD91 Жыл бұрын

    I went for the Leica m4-p

  • @fadondk
    @fadondk2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video! Love hearing your thoughts. Any recommendations on places in Australia for Leica repairs or service?

  • @pushingfilm

    @pushingfilm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching, I appreciate it :-) Well, I would generally say Jorg from European Camera Service is the best option for Leica here in Australia, but I just heard yesterday that he's unfortunately closing up shop and moving back to Germany. I will personally end up biting the bullet and sending mine to the YYE in the US when mine eventually comes up for needing service.

  • @fadondk

    @fadondk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pushingfilm thanks again! I did email Jorg yesterday and he told me about the move. Unlucky timing for me haha looking to get my leica repaired so will check out YYE or even Camera Clinic here in Aus

  • @yakattac78

    @yakattac78

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pushingfilm why YYe? Is it cheaper than sending to Leica Germany through the Leica stores?

  • @pushingfilm

    @pushingfilm

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yakattac78 As far as I've heard from others, he would be cheaper (and a lot quicker). But I guess that can depend on the situation.

  • @pushingfilm

    @pushingfilm

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fadondk No probs, and good luck with it!

  • @Ruylopez778
    @Ruylopez778 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder sometimes about the rumours (or myths) about the internals used. Some claim that the M4-P and M4-2 started the trend to cheaper parts that continued in the M6 and subsequent cameras. Even the M2 was supposedly a 'cheaper' version of the M3. Aside from the viewfinder, framelines, meter and hot shoe/cold shoe, another thing to consider is motor drives. M-A, MP, M7 and M6 can use the smaller, quieter more affordable motor m. I think this is why some internal parts were swapped from brass to steel; for reliability and durability. While most people probably won't want a motor m, the advantage would be not having to manually advance with the lever and being able to keep the camera to your eye, especially for left eye dominant shooters.

  • @lucianboboc7513
    @lucianboboc75132 жыл бұрын

    How can you turn off the light meter on MP? Is it taking the battery out or there’s another way?

  • @pushingfilm

    @pushingfilm

    2 жыл бұрын

    As far as I know, it would be taking out the battery

  • @takaya4203
    @takaya42032 жыл бұрын

    If I had the money I'd buy the M-A for your same reasons so I have to enjoy my beloved Zorki I...

  • @tonyhayes9827

    @tonyhayes9827

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha same only a FED5 instead of a Zorki 1 I wish Nikon would make a new film camera

  • @horaciomillan4181
    @horaciomillan41812 жыл бұрын

    Hello man! Thanks for your video, I am in Argentina and here it seems to be very difficult to get into analog photography. I received an M4-2 as a present early this year but haven´t been able to use extensively due to pandemics (everything became more difficult). Plus it seems that the lightmeter I was given is somehow blocked, so I would like to know what to use in replacement. Unfortunately it´s finding replacements or new electronic devices is almost impossible here.

  • @pushingfilm

    @pushingfilm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, that's awesome that you got the M4-2 as a present, and I completely understand how it can be hard to shoot because of the pandemic! You were given a detachable light meter with it? There are a lot of low cost accessory light meters you can but these days through AliExpress and ex-Kickstarter products... or even use a phone app in the meanwhile? The M4 series are also a great way to learn Sunny-16 metering and develop a sense for exposure without needing a meter. Either way, I hope you get to use it a little more.. best of luck!

  • @horaciomillan4181

    @horaciomillan4181

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pushingfilm thanks a lot, man! Yeah, I was very lucky, and it came with a cannonet, a Contaflex, some lenses and other point and shoot. I must have done something good in life. 🤔😊😇 Of course I told my friend the value, but they are the most generous people in the world. I will follow your advise and use the phone, in the meanwhile. 👍👍👍

  • @NarcissismSurvivor
    @NarcissismSurvivor2 жыл бұрын

    My M4-2 blows away a new MA. I know because I have both. Find a minty M4-2 and you’ve got a hellva camera.

  • @Nerdzombiedisco

    @Nerdzombiedisco

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree. Dumped a Black paint and Silver chrome MPs and went back to an M4-2. My bank account got fatter for color film prices.

  • @danwongphoto
    @danwongphoto2 жыл бұрын

    No one ever mentions the M4’s lack of a hot shoe

  • @JohnSmith-gs4zv

    @JohnSmith-gs4zv

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, right?! Flash is so essential to me, especially in our dark winter months. Flash photography at night with Portra 400 or Trix-400 looks so awesome!!

  • @AB-lx8cf
    @AB-lx8cf2 жыл бұрын

    it is all about frame lines thats why i bypassed the M3 in my collection. M2, M4, M4p, M6, M6ttl, MP. 28 summarit, 35 and 50 smmicron in the bag. I shoot street, events etc.

  • @y2ktube
    @y2ktube2 жыл бұрын

    Video @ 20:15 "you get these little things" - Don't do it ! - Every camera body that I've gotten in for repair where the customer had been using those add-on rapid cranks, had marred the top-plate finish (circular scratches) ! - It's just not worth the ridiculous reduction in pre-owned pricing for chancing quicker rewinds...

  • @ripemangosmdm7997
    @ripemangosmdm79972 жыл бұрын

    It's funny seeing your cat so high up above your head, just stand and stretch and do cat stuff, all while hearing what you think about the 2 cameras. Cats.

  • @VariTimo
    @VariTimo2 жыл бұрын

    Just got an M2 after I had to shoot the M6 for a year. I usually shoot with a M5 which is still consider to be the best of these. The M2 is really really nice. Felt like holding a Leica again after a year of the M6. I don’t wanna make anybody who actually loves their M6 feel bad but the M6 is a joke to be honest. Not as a camera in general, it’s a very good camera. But as a Leica, it’s been grossly overhyped and overpriced. I’m saying that because I don’t want that for any kid in their twenties to be their dream camera and than have it instead of a nice M3, M2, or M5. I’d really like to try a M-P to see if that can stack up to the amazingness that is the M5.

  • @pushingfilm

    @pushingfilm

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, I see what you mean about the M6, it has been going that way over the last few years. M5's are definitely under-appreciated.. and I wont be surprised if they skyrocket in price too.

  • @VariTimo

    @VariTimo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pushingfilm It’s already gone up considerably. Up to 90% since I bought my first one in 2017.

  • @frakaelectrosonparis7819
    @frakaelectrosonparis78192 жыл бұрын

    sold my M-A for an M7. M7 is more precise in speed, you can keep your eye in the viewfinder and modified F stop / bokeh immediately. you can add EV correction and memorize speed… so much liberty . This is not true you can evaluate with your eye f stop/speed and this is even less true that you can modified them counting click. Mp / M6 are dynosaurus and complitely out of competition with their stupid dot system.

  • @gb52
    @gb522 жыл бұрын

    music not required. like listening to a boring conversation in an elevator ! So I got off at the first floor ...