Great break-down! Budding Auxilia player here, thought I'd mention the solar auxilia started in the Sol system but expanded across the galaxy alongside the legions in the great crusade, so there's still a slim chance of them showing up in The Great Slaughter. They weren't mentioned by name in the early books since Edgar Somorowski hadn't designed their amazing models yet. Fingers crossed for some updates to both armies 🤞

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Ahh that makes sense. We'll wait and see!

@theserpentlodge3723

9 ай бұрын

They did appear in the Istvaan black books as the imperial army, and took part in the dropsite massacre on both sides.

The pre order deathmatch for this thing will make Beta Garmon look like a nuns picnic

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Ha ha, it's going to get intense. I'm not beneath eye gouging and biting.

@marcmiddleton2277

9 ай бұрын

*brings Rylanor & virus bomb* Come at me bro 😂

@burgdush1

9 ай бұрын

You don't know any Nuns do you... :D

@Phoney72

9 ай бұрын

@@burgdush1 😂 now there's a point.

@MrGunnar177

9 ай бұрын

I already got my pre order in. Hehe $154 for the starter. Other boxes 36.50 😁😁

Best man on KZread for legions imperialis! I’m really hoping for the legion glaive!

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Awww thank you! We'll definitely get the Glaive! No doubt in a box that makes all three. Hopefully sooner rather than later!

@NapoleonicWargaming

9 ай бұрын

Wish I could give you a double like for each of these comments!

Preorders next week!!

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

It's happening!!!

Istvaan III was the cleansing of the Legions, Istvaan V was the Drop Pod Massacre.

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Thank you! I get them mixed up...

With all of the issues that GW has had over the last couple of years, hopefully we don't get a repeat of Cursed City for this or any upcoming game.

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Cursed City was a choice. I think if it sells out... we'll at least have a lot of people to play against/buy second hand minis from a few months later?

@andrewcook3983

9 ай бұрын

@@blackbriargaming5483 I'm not sure Cursed City was a choice. They had some issues which, being GW, they never admitted to, which meant they had to shelve the game and its expansions, and then resurrected later. That cost them in lost sales and reputational loss. The former they won't recover, the latter they may have done so. I think there may be a crunch in GW's production schedule, with AoS 4th ed coming out in northern summer 2024. Kill Team Salvation has been pushed back, was supposed to be released before Xmas. In 2023 the first Arks of Omen book for 40K was supposed to be released before Xmas but came out a month or two later. I think there may have been other items bumped to later that year, as well.

I know you weren't going to talk much about Knights and Titans, but they've also shown a new plastic kit for the Dire Wolf that will be released for LI and the weapons carried by the Warhounds in the box are new (or new to plastic). I think this suggests that there will be more Titan and/or Knight releases. Armigers in plastic? Dominus class knights? Second, they usually don't stoke as much fanfare for their Forge World releases, so surely some of these predictions might materialize as resin kits/upgrades, and they only haven't mentioned them because they typically are shown off a few weeks before release as a WarCom article.

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Yeah the resin thing is interesting. I'm not sure. But I can't recall any talk of resin minis for LI. Whereas Old World have been very direct from the start about their resin plans.

@escapo6895

9 ай бұрын

@@blackbriargaming5483 I thought there was a single line that mentioned FW support somewhere in one of the announcement articles. At the least, we know there are some existing 8mm kits from the AI and AT ranges that will continue to be made to support LI. Ares gunship, some Imperial Navy planes, some Knight classes. I assume there will be certain more esoteric units that will also be in resin, like the Mastodon. But that's just a hunch.

Marauder destroyers are actually retconned into heresy from being invented for Armageddon in the fluff. Will we get the 40K guard stuff possibly such as the macharius under another name, the Crassus, the praetor and the gorgon?

Things missing (unannounced) still for the Solar Auxilia: Aurox Carnodon Dracosan Minotaur Valdor Malcador Infernus 5/7 Leman Russ variants 6/9 Baneblade variants maybe Crassus/Praetor + weapon options for Veletaari, Rapiers etc and anything else new they decide to give them

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

So I didn't include Legacy units for either faction, and didn't go into weapon variants for tanks as we can assume the stand alone boxes will have them 😊

One of the things I'm really hopeful for in the long run is large models that really make use of that epic scale. I can easily see Imperator titans coming to Legions Imperialis at some point(probably not before all Primarchs have released). Plus I'd love for some massive titanic sized deamons.

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Titanic daemons would be so cool!

The only thing we know is that it will be the most expensive gw game so far

Im 12 mins in at the mo, and the big thing weve not seen you havent mentioned yet is Mechanicum!

Istvaan 3 was the cleansing of the 4 legions (SoH, DG, EC, WE), Istvaan 5 was the dropsite massacre

Thanks for doing this summary dude, as a loong time epic player I am stoked for this game !

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

We have to be close by now!

in old epic there where no differend marines, so no destroyers no other terminators.

I think it's beta garmon for the great slaughter not istvaan.

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Could be! Can't wait to find out!

Hey you fixed the 20min white screen! Kudos!

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Ha ha like it never happened 😋

So they just announced pre-orders next weekend. If you look, I think they added stuff to the core box. Do I see 4 Kratos...👀

@marcmiddleton2277

9 ай бұрын

So the article says 61 models/based models. It's 65 with the Kratos. Did GW goof?

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

They suuuuuure did!

@marcmiddleton2277

9 ай бұрын

They confirmed on FB the Kratos was a goof

Cool. Now I'm painting my Leviathan box set and "watching", listening 40K contents like this.

I think many of the legion specific units could be represented with unique legion formations. For example, Emperor’s Children could get a Kakophoni Formation that adds a weapons trait to the infantry detachments in the formation to represent the sonic weaponry

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Yep. Bulk keen for this. If we don't get it, this is probably how I'll write the rules. Extra rules for individual units seems silly. Extra rules for themed and awesomely themed formations I can get around.

They will become available to be sold out.

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Almost definitely. Get in while the getting is hot!

GW should sort out the damn deleveries sorted 1st

I can see them releasing a separate sprue with all the Spartan hull heavy weapons on which you buy separately. That is what they do for Titanicus.

Is it going to be snap kits or do we need to glue them like the older kits?

Were Shadowswords not a thing in the Horus Heresy? As a Guard player looking to jump into Epic-scale Solar Auxilia with two feet, no access to the "Titan killers" would be a bummer.

@666lumberjack

9 ай бұрын

They were, the video missed a ton of stuff for the Solar Auxilia but to answer your question they get almost all the Baneblade variants in full scale heresy so I expect they will eventually in Legions too.

The delays are either a good thing or a bad thing. It could be good they are making more copies so people will be able to get one but that is less likely as GW makes view copies knowing good well the demand after all decades of sales records ha its either them fixing rules they messed up or printing mistakes from the printing companies or! worse off its the machines making the minis the quality isnt good and they have to redo them (everything they showed off were 3d prints as all prototypes are)

Depends here. The old Space Marine did not have rules for different weapon load outs, a heavy weapon squad was simply a heavy weapon squad - if you wanted a certain weapon on the base, then OK, but rules did not change. Different tanks and such for certain, those I can see and expect. I also expect the Lords of War. But generally, in Space Marine it was less equals more rules-wise and models as you desire. Now, in the later Epic they did have a much more individual units and gear (which I personally disliked), so in that case, we may see micro-units and specific load-outs (like Tech Marines and Las Cannon Devastators for example). Specific units are very unlikely. Primarchs are very likely.

in 30k they were also fghting eldar and orks so maybe some of that in the future

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

I love that optimism!! We can make our isn't rules and use epic 40k minis 😊

I want my Iron Warrior Basilisks damn it!

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Ha ha I didn't go into Legacies units. I'd be VERY surprised if we saw any of those. But Solar have some you can indenture/convert??

@thehandoftheking3314

9 ай бұрын

@blackbriargaming5483 oh I'm definitely having allied artillery. But I think we won't see a lot of the missing tanks, especially lords of war, until the second expansion book which is supposed to be Tallarn.

Hopefully we get the units in the core box as seperate releases 😂

I just hope they don't charge way to much because they messed up and had to re-print books or something

4:28 you said you have the rulebook you mean for the legions imperialis or Horus heresy rulebook?

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

Ha ha, the Heresy rulebook

@clockword9189

9 ай бұрын

@@blackbriargaming5483 aww man I hoped you are one of the people that got the box set beforehand to reviev

@blackbriargaming5483

9 ай бұрын

@clockword9189 unfortunately not. GWs not very interested in us folk in the colonies.

@clockword9189

9 ай бұрын

@@blackbriargaming5483 they are betraying the country of origin? Blasphemy