This engine is a little sweetheart in my C55.

M113 is my favorite engine n/a it's just the one

@rikardokwiatkowski7998

3 жыл бұрын

Yes I have S55 AMG m113 n/a good strong 💪 engine and is fast car 530nmm torque 👌🔥🔥🔥

The M113K in my e55 amg wagon is just insane. It feels like thor's hammer compared to any other v8 I have ever experienced.

@schoumv6

3 жыл бұрын

LS3?

@markanthony1615

3 жыл бұрын

@@schoumv6 nah bro prefer German V8s 💪🏼

@donkmeister

3 жыл бұрын

@@schoumv6 If you want to see why the M113K and the LS3 are very different experiences, look up the their respective torque curves 😀 The LS3 has the same shape of curve of most N/A engines, where it builds, and builds, and builds, then tapers off and falls to the red line. The M113K creates so much torque at very low revs that there is no smooth curve, it's like a step function shortly after idle, that then barely diminishes all the way to red-line. Result? The engine always feels potent, you rarely have those "ah, if only I'd been in the right gear" moments.

@adogmcdizzle

3 жыл бұрын

I have one too! 😎

@m84nolimit12

3 жыл бұрын

I feel the same when i drive e 55 amg 2004 Thors Hammer 👍👍👍

Not to mention the M113K's tremendous tuning potential, you can do a whole series on the alone!

@lamboferruccio

4 жыл бұрын

MTX MOTORS absolutely yes they’re an integral part of our business

M113k was the main reason ive bought e55amg ....happy as hell ...torque and subtle roar is fantastic

The C55 AMG is way underrated. Deserves more credit.

M113 for ever 🖤🤘🏽

CLK55 AMG ,,,reliable , easy to maintain ,,and so smooth when revving at high rpm.. a great GT cruiser especially when the auto transmission has been well maintained .

I had a 2006 C55. It had one BIG problem. I wouldn't keep rubber on the rear tires.

@mattmatt9971

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha

Yes. A fantastic engine! Just imagine it with a 7 speed DSG box, to release all of its potential. Love my C55, and unbelievable value for such fine German engineering

I have a CLK with the 4.3. Its fun, good on gas for a v8 and very reliable. Pushing past 230k miles with nothing but basic maintenance.

I have the M113 in my W220 S55. They really are a peach of an engine, sound incredible with exhaust mods. I've got secondary cats, resonator and muffler deletes, and it really is an incredible sound. Powerful, fairly economical when not booting it (7mpg when hammering it) and dont rev silly high which is one of the reasons it lasts and is reliable I believe.

Yes! Thank you so much for this video. I bought a C55 about 6 months ago and there isn't enough content on the M113

2001 ml55 amg here and i have 260k original miles. still running great.. going to run it to the ground

Your view of the M113 family echoes my own. Not only do they produce good power, regardless of displacement, but they are very, very solid and reliable. This includes the M113K version. I've looked at several S430's and S500's with over 300,000 miles on them. Without exception, the engines and 5-speed transmissions have remained in good, solid shape. I was really amazed. I've seen M113K engines with over 200,000 miles on them, and they're in good shape as well. The M112 V6 version of this engine is just as reliable. I regularly see them with over 250,000 miles and still going strong. Where I have one difference with your presentation is the 5-speed transmission and the M113K engine used in the AMG cars, at least in the S-class. The S55 AMG actually uses a strengthened version of the 5-speed transmission. That version can easily handle the M113K's torque, as it was originally designed for the Maybach 57s's 738 lb-ft (1000 N-m) and was also used on the S600 twin-turbo and S65 AMG. Other than that point, I'd say your presentation was pretty spot-on.

@theovannieuwenhuizen5756

8 ай бұрын

To my understanding the CLK 55 also had the 12 cylinder 600's transmission with added AMG speed shift.

A great engine simple but very effective. I mated my m113 to a manual gearbox

@ryanmeredith152

Жыл бұрын

Ooooo do tell

@saulius1984

Ай бұрын

What gear box? Whwt car??

My w203 c55 ! Love the sounds and feel of the m113!

The M113, while in reality probably was developed with some cost-cutting in mind (compared to the M119) ended up being a surprisingly fine engine family with excellent reliability and good power. Arguably the last "great" Mercedes V8 if you take reliability into account. The M156, while a nice, big-power motor, has FAR too many reliability issues to be considered as great overall. Go watch Legit Street Cars video covering the reliability issues, a former Mercedes master mechanic talking about the snapping head bolts (later fixed), worn lifters (kinda fixed on some versions) and failing cam variators (never really fixed). M113 all day long.

@no-damn-alias

8 ай бұрын

Btw the way. The same engineer later went on to build the Porsche V10 .

I actually sought out a CLS with the M113 engine because of it's reputation as being a bulletproof V8. The later M273 5.5 V8 gives an extra 80 bhp but has timing chain issues.

@vincentsolito8234

2 жыл бұрын

and less torque

@mercedes-benz.thebest.5350

2 жыл бұрын

@@vincentsolito8234 No, M273 has 530 Nm, M113 has 460.

@swedishtruther3166

Жыл бұрын

My E55 SW 2001 has 530NM

This series on engines is awesome, keep doing it !

Love that M113K!!

Educating me every day my friend, thank you

Best engine Mercedes ever made bar none.

This engine in an SLK is nuts. It's the most fun u can ever have,so much grunt !!!!!!

This technical series of videos are some of your best! Love them!

Thanks for that. Very in f ormative. Love my C55, mainly because of the engine.

Best v8 engine ever built. The engineers definitely took their time with this one. My e500 is at 180k miles but runs as though it were brand new

I had the M113K in my G55 AMG. Amazing engine - at 8mpg one had to really love it - but the gearbox was dreadful. At least it was indestructible.

One of the most reliable V8 engines ever made in NA form: If you actually change the oil on time and don't ruin the hydraulic lifters.

@popuptoaster

3 жыл бұрын

mines got 240,000 miles on it, had a cam chain and service items but nothing other than that.

M113 over M156. Fun and reliability don't usually come together very often!

Got the m113k in my CLS55 AMG, makes it a jekyll and hyde car for sure. The torque is sublime. What better cars can you get for the price.

Enjoying all the latest videos, glad to see your channel growing. Been subscribed since about 10k. We seem to share similar taste in cars. Keep up the good work!

I love this series. Keep up the awesome work

So glad you mentioned the M155! The camshafts will actually fit into the M113 but it's not a straight swap; not many people have done it but it is a real badge of honour in the M113 tuning community! There was an aftermarket supercharger kit available from Kleemann that boosted the N/A 5.0 to around 450bhp. So there are some E500s pushing around with a supercharger and the 7-speed, but obviously that's not standard. I've had an E500 with the 7-speed for years; I'd struggle to replace it. It ticks so many boxes for me; it's quick off the mark when I need it to be, it's anonymous, it's comfy, it's economical for a V8. I can put the suspension in Sport2 and it handles well enough for fast country lanes, and in Comfort it will waft down motorways getting 30-31mpg. I've driven it at 150mph and it didn't break a sweat, at the other end of the spectrum I once did an economy drive out of curiosity and got nearly 39mpg by turning off the climate and cruising without CC at 55mph... Wouldn't want to do it all the time but you'd get just under 700 miles out of a tank! Sure, single figures if you hoon hard but you can get single figures in anything if you want.

@diablocls55

9 ай бұрын

My E500 had the 5 speed and RWD. I would’ve loved to supercharge it as it was completely bulletproof but I had other projects at the time

It's basically a European LS. From a 4.3 "smallblock", to a 5.4 Supercharged. And dirt cheap. Lovely.

Detailed, well researched and enlightening as always!

M113K/M275 great video.

I'm enjoying your video series of the legendary engines, thanks for posting. I have a CLK 280 - 3L V6, I love how smooth the engine is and once you put your foot down the grunt sound makes me smile. The 7-speed gearbox is ok for cruising but a tad lazy if you want to get a move on. I have driven a CLK 500 and the delivery was smooth but much more of a rush. I’m considering a V8 for my next car.

Hey mate, just found your channel - love your down to earth approach. Subscribed, and when I come to the UK I'd love to have a beer 🍻

Had a lightly tuned M112K. Loved it to bits. Power delivery snd smoothness was unreal.

Whatever you do Jay, keep going. You've got an essence all your own, and you're content is always top notch. Jay for president!

@JayEmmOnCars

3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou Pedro

Your channel is fantastic! Can’t believe you haven’t got 10 times the subscribers !

I had a M113K in my E 55, and now I have just the regular M113 in my SLK55 and with the resonators and 2nd cats taken off, it sounds sooooo good

@WatchoutNSG

4 жыл бұрын

u go from m113k to 550 tool

@DouEditz

3 жыл бұрын

@@WatchoutNSG m113 AMG is not 550 read a little

@WatchoutNSG

3 жыл бұрын

@@DouEditz he goes from 480hp 520 torque to 350hp 370 torque, that's a tool move 🤷‍♀️

@DouEditz

3 жыл бұрын

​@@WatchoutNSG First of all M113 has 367 Hp and 376 lb-ft..... Second... How you gonna call someone else a tool when you live with your dad and blow up the car he put a down payment on...TOOL?? Look at your videos..what kind of 22 year old sits in front of the camera and rips off private information...lol

@WatchoutNSG

3 жыл бұрын

@@DouEditz was for college, thats the crap they make you do, also i paid for the car 12k I trade stock options, im happy you watched my amazing video, ya going from a high performance engine to the shittier one is whack, keep fuming bud your prob like 50 getting all mad in the comments

Great video and info! I have a e500 with the 7spd transmission and it actually is pretty nice but I’m also coming from a C36 with a vacuum shift 4spd which is pretty old school now. The m113k vehicles with a modern gearbox would be absolute monsters

Amazing engine,unforgettable sound!💓🤩

I absolutely agree, I own few of these early AMG cars and they are great.

Great series you got here. Keep it up The Swede

Like this review, thank you

Awesome video, just got a SL500 R129 with the M113 engine and fixing up my C43 w202 👍

Excellent thanks. I've got a CL500 standard 5L V8 and it's wonderful and I've been tempted to upgrade to the CL55 with the supercharged engine but then as you say the gearbox in mine is already not exactly happy so imagine another 200bhp and I hear you when you say not such a great idea. Keep these vids coming.

You can't beat the sound of a V8. I'm lucky enough to own a V8 Jaguar XK and when they're wound up the sound is addictive, just like this Merc....

C43AMG. WONDERFUL CAR, way ahead of its time. A thrill to drive today.

Great video, I have the M113 AMG 5.4L in my 2000 W163 ML55 that I recently bought with only 50k miles.... full-time 4MATIC 4x4 body-on-frame SUV with hi/lo transfer case and sport suspension... not to mention 342bhp at 5750rpm and 400nm torque at 3000rpm... this thing goes 0 to 60 in 6.4 seconds, is great in all driving conditions, high speed, highway cruise or off-road... now I’m only saving up to do a stage 3 Kleemann turbo and tune to get it to 540 hp and 750nm ;)

Yes I love my E55 113k, it’s a luxurious fun car. Mine has 630 injectors Long tube headers LSD Forced Induction -Interchiller 83mm belt pulley an Intake kit a better TCU for faster shifting….plus much more. And I must say, it’s very enjoyable to drive.

The m113 in my track car has been brilliant

I’m about to buy the Mercedes CLS55 AMG so thanks for making this video.

@saymyname218

3 жыл бұрын

"Got one, It's awesome, and more reliable than the 63! ( And just as fast because it has more torque)

I have a M113 engine and it's the best engine I've ever driven. I have a m113k, very fun but I prefer the plan M113

Classic AMG V8s from that era. Shame the new C63 is going to become a 4 cylinder hybrid.

I really enjoy mine in my C43!

this is my favourite sounding v8 or at least the only one i know about

my 2001 ML430 with 73k miles drives like butter and surprisingly fast.

I've seen a guy in Poland driving an M113 swapped Nissan Patrol on 38 inch tires and the sound it made was honestly orgasmic and it tore through terrain like through tissue paper!

"Most unique!" Shirt was a bit mild too. Standards JayEmm, Standards!

Mercedes been putting excellent m112/m113 engines into cars that would rot away if you'd use them in any weather but dry. Just like leafs, they change color to brown for the winter. The engine would last longer than the rest of a car. Next generations had galvanized body panels, but we all know how much of a disaster M156 can be. So the question is: "Is SLK55 the most reliable car the world?"

Had a Turquoise 1999 C43 AMG with the white on black Designo leather, was a great car and although not as quick it was a much more relaxing car to drive than my B6 S4. should have kept it, they are going ballistic in price.

I recently added a 2000 SL500 to my fleet and "silky smooth" is an apt description of the driving experience of the m113. I am head over heels with that car

This certainly has its charms and muscle car feel, but the M156 after it is just so manic and additive that it seems even more exciting. Do miss not having a supercharger though

The M113K and mighty Bi-Turbo V12 are the Mercedes engines I covet. SL55 AMG and E55 AMG wagon would be my favourite M113 cars.

With a CL500, the M113 is a beautifully smooth and powerful V8. A joy to drive.

M113 and M112 were the last reliable engines MB produced.

@brunobegic3841

3 жыл бұрын

the m156 was pretty bulletproof as well after it got new head bolts in 2010

I'm trading my bike for an 04 clk500. Drooling over that w202 c43 you showed. Had a C280 with an M104 in it. Which was STILL a great engine.

Very reliable engines. Usually the M113 outlives whatever car it was put into. Hence why they are dirt cheap at salvage yards. MB diehards hate it but IMO it’s an one hell of an underdog

awesome vid however the c55 actually made about 30 more hp than the timebomb in the m3, in addition to more torqure

Simple Mercedes V8 brute awesomeness

Unfortunately this glorious engine is suppressed with the stock exhaust set up. I removed the exhaust resonator and it made a huge difference and its much cheaper than other mods like headers or a new exhaust set up. Highly recommend doing this and great video - 05 CLK55 Coupe

@revinot

3 жыл бұрын

What was the difference it made? Sound, Economy?

@mattmatt9971

3 жыл бұрын

@@revinot wanna know too

@Leonardo555ZZZ

Жыл бұрын

@@revinot It makes it louder under acceleration , high rpm , and cruising , but quieter at idle and gentle throttle.

I love the SLR, personally. They sound incredible and look even better. Just let down by having that 5-speed gearbox. Compounded with the McLaren edition SLR as that got the bodystyling the SLR should've had, but still got a 5-speed auto.

Fave engine from merc in my opinion : - m113k - m156 - m157 - m133

@Manuqtix.Manuqtix

Жыл бұрын

No the m157 sucks it’s direct injection it’s bad, you know how horrible direct injection engines are? The m113 is ok but It requires 16 spark plugs not just 8 I don’t know why Mercedes didn’t just stick with the m119 that’s a much better engine

❤️ I want it

I wanted a 6.2L but there were too many problems with variable timing. I wanted a M113K until I saw a KZreadr who had found a rubber gasket in the oil pump that went bad in two engines he took apart. Bad gasket means loss of oil pressure. To replace what must be a $2 gasket appears to be an engine out job. Settled on a 4.3L which despite being the smallest, is more than capable.

SLK with V8 is nuts. Now u would get v4 😁😟

I love my 113K E 55 MY 2006 The last of the best ever made in my opinion it delivers maximum Adrenalin

A very good engine. Reliable durable and versatile. So naturally it had to go. 6.2, head bolts? Who needs head bolts?

The Merc 500E. 🥰 love those things. Just so damn expensive. Think the W203 C55 or W202 C43 is the cheapest way to experience something close to that thing.

@raycroal

4 жыл бұрын

clk430 coupe is the cheapest way in

@Ghousempc

4 жыл бұрын

I have the c43, not cheapest cause its price is increasing and it’s hard to find.

@bernardwarr4187

3 жыл бұрын

Cool car, 500E 😉

My favourite is the c180 Kompressor.

The reliability of my CLK 55 has been interesting I won’t lie. Rocker cover leaks are common which do affect the idle slightly and of course valve stem seals needing to be replaced! Puffs of smoke coming out the exhaust when under WOT can be terrifying! Aside that, the car seems fine and the 5 speed box is smooth and the engine is quiet when cruising! 23-24mpg can be achieved, even in Cornwall! But for comedy I have seen 3.4mpg when a sports bike met my rear lights.

@devanrogers3133

Жыл бұрын

What milage did you experience these problems at? I'm about to get a 2002 CLK 55 AMG with only 49k miles.

@Leonardo555ZZZ

7 ай бұрын

@@devanrogers3133 These problems are rare if the oil is changed every 5000 miles or so...except valve cover gaskets need replacing every 15 years.

i Had an sl500 with the normal m113 engine. amazing car amazing engine but it wasn't though for me. So I picked up a new to me sl55 with an m113k and my gosh does this thing fly

The M113 in my S430 is like a sleeping lion. The growl it makes when she gets up and going is exhilarating.

@BoxImpala313

3 жыл бұрын

Is the 430 still a m113?

@MacarthurfitnessequipmentAu

3 жыл бұрын

@@BoxImpala313 most definitely.

5:12 Jesus christ. That is intoxicating.

I wouldn’t recommend a Mercedes with a manual gearbox had a c class with one it was like something out of a tractor 🚜 their auto boxes are some of the best in the business

@blademansw

4 жыл бұрын

I've got a manual in my s204 c220. Hateful it is. Then again stack that up against a Peugeot pudding stirrer and you will think it's wonderful lol

@phil955i

4 жыл бұрын

I agree, I've owned many cars with auto gearboxes & Mercedes do make the best

I had a 1999 Mercedes E240 with the M113 engine. I agree this engine is superb far quieter and trouble free because of its single camshaft

@DjAlyX1

4 жыл бұрын

M112

I can't really comment. As I only have experience with the OM648 and OM642. But the OM648 sounds incredible for a diesel.

A M113 in a R171 SLK AMG is a pure driving experience, in no way can it keep up with an EV, but emotionally, what you hear and feel... well, what a great engine, soon to be outlawed, appliances will rule the roads until they are taxed beyond our budget... Did they ever put a M113K in a SLK 171?

Fovourite MB Engine for me is the M157 5.5l BiTurbo V8 bc it's just the most relentless power stock with insane reserves

The M113k engine in my '06 E55...

Deep dive into this vs the predecessor pls

I can't really comment, as ive only had experience with the OM648 and OM642. But I do know that the OM648 sounds incredible for a diesel engine.

M113 need to have 7-g tronic! 5-g is not acceptable. Good video! Cheers!

M113k the best

I have a W211 M112 engine and since there are importation restrictions in my country of cars from 2012 and below, its near impossible to import the w211 E500, E55 & E63...would really like to know if its possible changing the engine in my car from the M112 engine to the M113 engine and what other components or things will I have to change in the car

How about the motor mounts? I have an M112 V6 for my 2002 C320 and I want to upgrade to the M113 E55 engine. Will they line up?