Hey all. This is a combination of my L4D1 and 2 videos into one. I've revamped the L4D1 video, correcting a few mistakes, expanding on some thoughts, and editing out a few of my MANY "as wells" since it was just ludicrous last time. I've also added in another mod campaign review for both games, among some other small changes. If you'd like to see me review a few other mod campaigns, I have a patreon exclusive video where I cover I Hate Mountains, Back to School, and Suicide Blitz, both versions of all of them. Support me on patreon: www.patreon.com/dorkaxe Otherwise, join the discord for talks and maybe L4D play sessions or Project Zomboid goofs. Dorkaxe discord link: discord.gg/rnmSP9FQQg Follow me on twitter for...uhh, updates and general game thoughts from time to time: twitter.com/darkaxe54

@Obsidiar

6 ай бұрын

always good to see games that are loved getting videos made about them. i do wish that valve updated the console versions of the games because PC players seem to have everything that matters; accurate hit detection, updates to make some maps more fair in terms of layout and design for the SI, the weapons from CS arent a big deal but nice to have, dlcs are actually playable since on console they always seem to crash, and custom maps for variety since i think that l4d2 dropped the ball w its maps compared to l4d; i love dead center dark carnival and parish, but hard rain and swamp fever just give me mixed feelings of love and hate whereas i can love all the l4d maps. great vid even if ive yet to complete watching it :D

@DATDUDEMAN101

6 ай бұрын

I literally watched both of your videos on L4D today HOURS before you uploaded this wtf 😂

@villings

6 ай бұрын

ah! I was gonna say "déjà vu"... happy new year, Dorkaxe

@layers5255

6 ай бұрын

1:40:39 someone didn't read the sacrifice comic

@nightman7326

5 ай бұрын

😊

My friends call me Coach

@thecreativecaitlin

6 ай бұрын

Ellis: KIDDYLAND

@Kobi_00

6 ай бұрын

I guess yall can do the same

@JLLullaby

6 ай бұрын

Goddamnit.

@frddyyfezbeer2368

6 ай бұрын

Ha ha Coach

@jejh600

6 ай бұрын

”Was coach his real name?”

"My buddy Keith lived in a graveyard once for a whole year. It wasn't a dare or nothin', he just got kicked out of his house. He said he NEVER saw a single ghost 'cept for this one time when a ghost stabbed him from behind and took all his money, and he might've just been a homeless guy, 'cause he had a robe on with two eyes cut out his face."

The L4D series kicks so much ass that I still play them

@djsafieg25

3 ай бұрын

@Graves-81_69 bro l4d will never die no lie

@Graves-81_69

2 ай бұрын

@@djsafieg25 you’ve got that right. I even liked Back 4 Blood even though it was way different from the original recipe

@Syfrox

2 ай бұрын

@@Graves-81_69 Back 4 Blood pales in comparison. I'll stick with the well-rounded experience that is L4D/2

@Graves-81_69

2 ай бұрын

@@Syfrox I hear that. I play B4B from time to time but like you said L4D is where it’s at

@lurtiskoe

2 ай бұрын

same. Its never been uninstalled since i bought this computer. And it never did on my old one till I wiped the hard drive to sell after i bought my recent one. It's TIMELESS

1:14:07 There's a mutation called 'Iron Man' that has realism activated; removes ammo piles, which forces you to change weapons; removes checkpoints, meaning that if everyone dies, the game will take you back to the main menu, which can be frustrating but it makes it all more tense and enjoyable for those that are looking for a challenge.

1:40:47 The Sacrifice comic actually answers this. Once Louis recovers, they do end up taking the boat to the island.

The reload changes and how the shotguns works on the second game are the biggest differences to me between the 2 games.

@JustAJauneArc

6 ай бұрын

Really? What are the differences? Im not the most observant, so I never noticed anything honestly

@joakimberg7897

6 ай бұрын

Whats the difference?

@YourName-um6sb

6 ай бұрын

We need to know about these differences man lives are at stake here

@tumble8323

6 ай бұрын

seriously what are the differences

@JAiZYouTube

6 ай бұрын

​ @JustAJauneArc @joakimberg7897 @YourName-um6sb @@tumble8323 In L4D1, if you empty the mag of the autoshotgun completely, the reload takes longer because you have to manually chamber a round, rather than being able to keep shooting once all the shells are in.

Fun fact, The voice actor for the church guy is also the same voice actor for scout for TF2

@spyrow9957

4 ай бұрын

In the german version the church guy has Ellis voice

@FounderGreatest

3 ай бұрын

Fact, the coach and zoey have a same voice actor

@joshuashird9735

4 күн бұрын

@@FounderGreatest not sure about that, but coach’s voice actor is the actor for Tyrese in the walking dead, which I think is cool

I'm mad that your last L4D2 video didn't skyrocket. The fact that there was so much labor and absolute love into it and seeing ANOTHER video of a long length? You are blessing us with your passion. Thabk you so much 🥺💜

@Dorkaxe

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! No worries, I let the algorithm do its thing. It's not doing terribly by any means, but yeah, more/higher numbers is nice.

@reddie1705

6 ай бұрын

​@@Dorkaxethe algorithm did, in fact, do it's thing because I'm here now and enjoying this video so far

@zaneheaston8254

6 ай бұрын

KZread Algorithm am I right?

Another difference between Left 4 Dead 1 and 2 is you can see your legs and torso when looking down, where you can't in 2.

@The_Soda_Man

3 ай бұрын

Thank goodness you can mod back your legs into Left 4 Dead 2.

I'd argue the L4D2 special infected actually added far more balance to the game than the original ones. For example, the charger is a disruption special and works to throw the group off or make them split apart to dodge the charge. If the charge lands on the group, one person is taken far away while the group is scattered into the air. The spitter also stops people from camping or holding angles too long. She forces you to engage the zombies directly. The jockey is a mix of the hunter and the smoker. Its low profile makes it hard as hell to see or hit in hordes, making it perfect for stealth pounces. And since it jumps just above you basic FOV (Unlike the hunter), it's harder to stun bash out of the air without directly looking up. Once it grabs you, it can easily move you away from your team if they aren't paying attention. The original specials work, but none served as a disruption to the group as much nor did any break camping a funnel/angle. Trust me, when you get good enough at these games, the original specials become quite the pushover majority of the time.

@kR-qj7rw

4 ай бұрын

Yep I always felt the originals are more cherished to fans and with nostalgia but the second ones are better crafted wrench into a teams machinery

@reimuhakurei2123

13 күн бұрын

Except the Jockey fuck the Jockey having an instant latch on + move you until you die cause fuck you + they have way more hp than you think and small. I could probably balance the jockey better Like make the jockey only move you a few steps enough to go behind a corner then knock them down so its a mix of smoker and hunter and also reduce their hp to match how small they are, the hunters and smokers have less hp than the jockey currently

Restarting the generator in The Sacrifice as Bill is one of my favorite moments in gaming.

@noxcure

5 ай бұрын

I love how its an unspoken rule also, whoever is Bill, must make the sacrifice

@GTZ7

2 ай бұрын

@@noxcurenot really, I usually host the game so even if i play as bill, you still have to go down there if I say

@LuvMontrea

18 күн бұрын

@@GTZ7bro u are not him😭

I used to amaturly mess around with source sdk for l4d2. I had a campaign idea that never came to full fruition where the survivors were tasked by the military to nuke a city in a 3 stage campaign. The first map would involve getting off a train that is carrying the nuke due to the rails needing to be manually diverted to a different track. Youd run through city streets and even climb a fire escape to ride a zipline across a river. The second map would involve the survivors "playing a game of payload" if you will. The military instructs them to push the nuke on the track to the center of the city then meet at a rendezvous point. The reason they give to not take the nuke by train is some bs that makes no sence but the survivors have no choice because they will be killed if they dont cooperate. The final map involves arming the nuke and running to the rendezvous in a crescendo event. The campaign ends with the survivors realizing they are abandoned and burning up in the blast. I had made a rough concept of the first map and an even more rough concept of the second before i got bored and moved on to playing valheim which had just come out that year. If any map maker sees this and wants to steal the idea feel free, I still check out the workshop from time to time and would love to play the campaign. I just realized i dont have the patience for game design.

@angelromanflores2709

3 ай бұрын

😢

@Vaughnofthedawn08

2 ай бұрын

You should make that

@MattBurns10252

Ай бұрын

Id download that off the workshop

KZread recommends me so many longform game reviewers with absolutely nothing of value to say that every time someone comes along who actually makes interesting points i immediately binge their content. I clicked subscribe very fast, great series of videos.

It is amazing to hear you say what every other player is thinking. Your presentation is great. I seek witches out. One shot from a shotgun. I leave light on and run to them. Louis is hilarious. Especially when he is getting killed. My youngest daughter bought me L4D1 on PC when it came out because I suck on Xbox. I have been gaming online for over 25 years. I still play a lot. Almost 500,000 kills. I only play with bots. People are mean and rude online. I am in my mid sixties by the way. Thank you for taking the time to create videos for us.

"My last life? District IT manager at Fischer Platt. Not good practice for zombie killing, you know?" This game OOZED personality even though it’s a very measured and rhythmic game, the small things you hear and pick up through hours of playing. I remember the day I got home from middle school and my stepfather was playing this on his Xbox 360 and I watched him play well into the morning the next day.

Man, hearing that Valve splash screen music gave me a huge blast of nostalgia, quickly followed by something like new hype, then finally the sad realization that it hit me so hard because its been missing and a comeback isn't looking likely.

@alastor8091

2 ай бұрын

Same dude.

I’ve never seen two infected get offended with another and just throw hands.

I admire the attention to detail that these first 2 games had. You can really appreciate just how ahead of its time they are, especially when comparing them to Back 4 Blood and most other games that come out nowadays

@mr.l5071

6 ай бұрын

I tried to get the dlc on Xbox one for L4D2 and none of them work, except for ones that take me to the 360 store for some reason, although I don’t know if I add a card to my Xbox one account if that’ll work. Does anyone know if it will?

@just_right9642

6 ай бұрын

@@mr.l5071it’s supposed to take you to the 360 store it is an Xbox 360 game. If you buy it through there it should still work entirely

@notnormal419

6 ай бұрын

​@@mr.l5071I'm also having the same problem as well and the only solution I see is that you pay for it on a 360

@mr.l5071

6 ай бұрын

@@notnormal419 oh man the dlc doesn’t show up on my 360 despite searching for it, that’s very strange.

@DogCheese420

3 ай бұрын

@@mr.l5071I bought both games an all the dlc a few months ago on 360 and everything seemed to work fine. I think I even bought the dlc on the main menu of the game itself while playing on my Series X. Some stuff might be slowly leaving the store ahead of its full closure in July.

Watch out. -Coach

I love that clip you use at 2 min, I especially love that if anyone is gonna talk about half life or the goldengine in literally anyway, it's like a 85% chance that clip is gonna show. Just so emblematic of the real best part of half life, jank.

the thignt that probably impresses me the most is that left 4 dead came up with pretty much every zombie type that any zombie games uses nowadays except screamer

I've been a huge fan of l4d since 2008 and i absolutley love both of them, i agree the first one has an unique charm that the second doesn't, but i still love l4d2 because is so much fun, this game is super important for me and makes me nostalgic, so seeing that is still alive and loved by the community makes me so happy, i love your video it was super entertaining and loved how well you were describing them, amazing job! I can't choose a favorite, i love both lol also i can't stop laughing because of the last clips lmfaoo

as a huge wrestling nerd i gotta say the completely random and triple niche Curtis Axel reference went so hard its insane

I used to play the crap out of these games when they came out. I was feeling nostalgic for them recently, and my bf has a 360 so I ordered hard copies of them both to revisit. He’s never played them before, so I’m excited for him to experience it!

@Rek2Chi

3 ай бұрын

U win

@lurtiskoe

2 ай бұрын

I could use a GF like you... *le' sigh' im nostalgic for them too. Always played on PC though.. bought both games day 1. im 40 now. feel so old. :(

@YEETUSDAFEETUS

9 күн бұрын

did he enjoy them?

@JojoNicole

9 күн бұрын

@@YEETUSDAFEETUS He did! I was excited how much he likes playing them together, cuz it was such a staple of my childhood and teen years. He’s even been making some references outside of us playing which is so cool I think lol

@YEETUSDAFEETUS

9 күн бұрын

@@JojoNicole sounds like you guys are going to be busy slaying hordes for a while I'm glad he liked em they're some of the best zombie games I've played

A very curious detail that I love of the 13:40 spanish version of Bill dialog it says: "that was just a skirmish, now comes the war" highlighting even more His characteristic military style

17:30 Long comment but, I got into playing left 4 dead around 9/10 yrs old and the sound design has got to be the biggest reason I fell for the game. As a kid I was garbage at surviving, obviously, BUT I could always point out what special infected were nearby and spawn points. Which always made my older brother and I a great team. He covered the shooting and strategy, I covered the atmosphere connected to gameplay. 😌

I got lfd and lfd2 on my 9th birthday and they are what blossomed my interest in video games.

This was a beautiful dissection of the series as a whole The good, the bad and the ugly I'm glad you were able to experience just about every aspect of the online co-op experience as possible when you tackled this. It's definitely not for everyone who are looking for a casual experience with friends only to have some matches broken down to "git gud or git lost". IF there was EVER a consideration to do a 3rd installment in the series, I truly hope they consider introducing dedicated hardcore "KWTD" lobbies for that kind of experience so others who aren't as experienced can enjoy the basics. Granted anyone will hop in casual lobbies just to stomp people lol, it will always happen regardless. And for the love of all that is unholy, SweetBabyInc gets burned to the ground and doesn't go anywhere NEAR it.

l4d and l4d2 are like a film action when a horde and special infected come together to attack you suspense when its all quiet and a few zombies are appearing only to a holdout section to appear horror hearing the special infected spawn and the witch's crying and the fact that at the end of a campaign a end credits scene appear

Both of your Left 4 Dead retrospectives are probably the best analysis' of the series on youtube. Especially with how well you were able to articulate your thoughts on Left 4 Dead 2. I really look forward to what you put out in the future!

One of the most replayable games of all time imo, very few games manage to capture that feeling of a totally different experience each time you play

@TheL1arL1ar

3 ай бұрын

It was my most played Steam game and my account is from 2009, only to be dethroned by elden ring just recently 😅.

@sinkuskidd

3 ай бұрын

@@TheL1arL1ar yes!! I noticed the new game helldivers has classes like l4d and I wonder what else it has that’s similar. Wondering if maybe they got some of the magic from the game. They got boomers, chargers, hunters and I’m sure more that’s oddly similar. Super interesting

This is without a doubt one of the best Left 4 Dead videos on KZread.

Dorkaxe out here just dropping bangers, love your content man

this guy is such a legend I truly do hope he gets more recognition because he definitely deserves it he always gives amazing retrospectives

I know this is a mix of two videos but GOD DAMM is this a banger to learn about your channel from

Seems great. already watched both of them but will start and finish this one with a smile, even more if you say to have put more mod analysis into it. Thanks!

One of the reasons I love Old valve games so much is because of the obvious love and dedication put into them all. The music is always S tier (except for CS for some reason), I generally just think the source engine and the gritty, old-feeling but upholding graphics are a million times better than any modern “realistic” game with a battle pass, a shop, celebrities or pop culture characters as skins etc. ofc l4d2 has a very lively modding scene but even with every single model and weapon modded to hell to be different things it always feels like left 4 dead, no matter how many clusterfuck mods I have it’ll never not feel like left 4 dead and I love that about it

"Game over man... Game over!" Everybody laughing. Best part of the games

I watched this whole retrospective video in one sitting and I totally agree with everything. Great vid

This would be sick as a movie, if done right

@kendallfwarren

5 ай бұрын

ong! id do it if i had the talent and money lols.

You have encouraged me to update my game and binge. Thanks.

Good Video So Far Can't Wait to finish it !

The L4D AI director should have been how MW3 zombie city should have been made

I never noticed the musical cues for special infected, really cool

I’m only 20 minutes in but the style of the video reminds me of early matthewmatosis (another videogame essay KZreadr), which is pretty much the highest compliment I can give

I loved your take on both games. These are my absolute fave zombie games to date! This vid definitely earned you a new sub!

Hell yeah perfect time for you to drop this

My favorite genre of video is 2+hour long valve videos

Still remember playing Left 4 Dead demo on xbox 360 with friends over and over everyday when it first came out. It was only the first level but everyone kept playing it. Was a blast.

Awesome Video!

I really wish CoD Extinction took more design concepts from L4D. I think a Director like system would've greatly improved the mode. It principally played more like that than the traditional CoD horde mode.

So many great campaigns made by the community. SO MANY! 🎊🥳🎉

A fantastic video mate!! Though that’s not surprising!! L4D is a wonderful franchise and I do hope we one day get a third game made by the proper Valve

I used to bring my laptop to class and finish my work early to play L4D1, waiting for the class to end. Sadly, not many games that followed in its footprints.

two of my favorite details with the Hunter and Charger specifically are 2 of their Alt Animations, sometimes when being shoved off Hunters will Backflip instead of stumbling and Chargers when having a roof above them while slamming a survivor will throw the survivor upward batting them into the ceiling

The way all the bots turned and looked at you fed up when Francis was saying how he hated everything was the icing on the cake. They were all just chillin in the elevator and got annoyed with Francis

Holy moly, something about the song that plays when a campaign is nearing its end has always triggered an adrenaline response in me to haul ass so hearing it at 2:26:00 come outta nowhere, I couldn't help but smile at my increasing heart rate. I'll always love the music of these games

@sergeantsilly-pantsjackson1942

6 ай бұрын

Valve and the original Turtle Rock Studios used actual physiatrists and whatnot to get the music just right to fit what role it needed. Scary, foreboding, exciting, doomed, triumphant, hopeful.

Love this video. I find it very interesting you didn’t mention how toxic the players can be specially on versus mode. It’s imo one of the worst things about the game and a reason many new players are not trying new things or the game at all.

@CallofFreaky

6 ай бұрын

I never liked versus and haven’t played much but any time I have I’ve been ridiculed in VC for not doing exactly what the players on my team want or just not had fun because everyone who plays it plays nothing else and it’s impossible to enjoy when you can’t do anything and you’re getting yelled at at the same time

@gamehelper2

6 ай бұрын

@@CallofFreaky yes it’s hard not to get kicked out of a versus game even for an experienced player. Easily one of the most toxic gaming communities which is a shame.

@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control

6 ай бұрын

It wasn't too hard to find a decent lobby, but the problem became finding a group of survivors who all had the same idea on how to play each level and butting heads, and that could easily derail any campaign. But I had a lot of really, really great times with random groups in that game. More than most games I can think of.

@gamehelper2

6 ай бұрын

@@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control agreed 100%. It’s like he said in the video. The games where the teams are balanced and not toxic are easily some of the most fun there is to have in a video game. Top tier gaming that.

amazing video

I remember playing this game again with a custom map with a friend not knowing that map supported 8 player support.. we were confused asf, i love this game and the community made maps. It's a truly special game that alot of people should play with friends

I'll say that melee weapons fit into the mix because they're useless against special infected in terms of damage. Also you could see ranged infected like spitters, smokers and not be able to target them at all. You're trading the ability to carve your way through the common infected with little trouble to weakening yourself against special infected. This weakness is covered however if you have good teamwork and can cover each other's weakpoints

Dude, you deserve a whole lot more subs and views than you get. Love your video essays

I remember playing this all the time with my friend good times really miss those days

1:23:39 i love these sounds, i can feel them hit my head every time

L4D2 was my intro to the series, and I look back on it fondly. It's interesting to hear the take of someone whose baby was L4D1. It's interesting also that the smokers are your nightmares, whereas mine are definitely the tank. Just something unstoppable like that, I had literal nightmares about it for ages, and ocassionally still do. I am reminded that the swamp campaign was definitely the lowlight...agreed entirely. But then I'm also stuck here thinking about it and how advanced was actually the best mode when I was fully in the swing of things - even most random lobbies had players good enough to deal with it. Damn, that was fun. Tense, but fun. (Also yeah F Microsoft, I definitely sank money into all the things for L4D1 and 2 on Xbox) Both games were just so frickin good. So fun. If I could get controller working well on PC...and...over my fear of how intense the game could be... Man I dunno, kinda wanna play again. eta: literally forgot about scavenge mode, that was such a tough one. Really fun but damn.

great video

Safety dance at 43:49 ! Amazing!

That was a slow start but the rest of the video is fantastic. Keep it up

Good video. 👍

On the Norma campaign maps for both I never got lost at any point in finding my wY

this is great! you should do something like this for the payday franchise.

The best thing about Left 4 Dead's storytelling is that the environment actually shows how dire things are. Safehouse have limited supplies enough to cater all 4 of the survivors with limited weapon, every escape seems to lead to nowhere since you'll fight your way to another area after escaping the previous one and it's becoming more dangerous than the last and the characters seems to acknowledge the bleakness of their situation but learns to accept it with each passing time.

You earned a sub for that random ass safety dance reference 44 mins in

This deserves more attention

Suicide Blitz would have been another L4D2 community campaign to include in here as well. Honestly such a banger

Haven't played either l4d in years and i just so happened to have two friends who never played so naturally like the video game sugar daddy i am, i bought both my mates both the games, we running through the campaign together on advanced/ expert hella fun since we are all on the same skill level

i just came back to l4d2 two months ago, ty

32:50 is literally how bar fights break out

the audio glitch at 1:11:56 scared the shit out of me 😭

to add on to the l4d1 mode... mods can fix the points about weapon sounds and animations and reimplementing legs in first person

God keep this level of quality content up and 2024 is gonna be your year 🫶

I love these games

1:44:47 i did not know this word. Thank you for using it.

I grew up on this game man. A TIMELESS classic. I still play to this day and it doesn’t get old for me. New games just can’t capture this. Sigh.

This is so good I love all the hard work you obviously put into this video!!! I'm learning so much and I'm only 30 minutes in! :)

I still play the orange box on PS3. It’s pretty fun just being able to hop into a match of TF2 with 0 updates or mods and still seeing people play.

1:56:13 this entire exchange between the in game survivors and their voicelines sums up perfectly how it feels when the bots stand confused as to what action they should take. God damn man, it shouldn’t be that hard to make the bots start pathing towards the player that’s snared while shooting at the smoker, then making the bots switch priorities immediately when they are in range to shove you free if they can’t kill the smoker before they reach you. I felt vindicated whenever you mentioned that dumbing the bots down was an intentional choice but it feels all the more horrible since you know they could have done better but decided, for a very *very* arbitrary reason, against it.

The entire point behind Spitters, Jockeys and Chargers in L4D2 was to prevent corner camping strats from 1, which can constantly be seen in the recorded gameplay footage.

I just got really into l4d again and this video is beautiful

im happy Helldivers 2 is arguably a successor of the genre amalgamating form the titles its heavily inspired from. they coudlve went w/ casually making a game third person, but they make it on their own way to add mechanics/detail close to MGSV

Having a campaign called "no mercy" in the game always was interesting to me because where i live Mercy Hospitals are real. They are an actual hospital brand/company thing.

very nice. it would have been nice to see some insight of the arcade version but considering its an arcade exclusive to japan it understandable.

This seems like a promising channel

The infected do not react to the flashlight

I feel I have watched this exact video before Still watching all of it

29:54 This is absolutely me as well.

No Zombie is safe from Chicago Ted!

Those spicy sprays you've mentioned are no longer enabled by default (Only L4D2 I believe) as of The Last Stand update. Imo this is the best way since we all know what custom sprays are for and only detract the pure experience for those who want it. (i.e. Me and everyone else who enjoys 'art')

Thanks for the medkit uhh, thisaburgertank... oh 😢