I love the optimism of enfield sights. might be an impossible range, but at least the gun believes in you.

@user-njyzcip

3 жыл бұрын

Remember the pistols with 500 or even 1000m sights?

@engineer6250

3 жыл бұрын

I believe they did actually use volley fire in. WW1. So much so that the enemy thought the British were using machine guns. This was mentioned either in a Forgotten Weapons or Bloke On The Range video.

@user-njyzcip

3 жыл бұрын

@@engineer6250 sounds more like the mad minute

@engineer6250

3 жыл бұрын

ネプギアGO Agreed. It does. But the presentation was on the SMLE with volley sights and the use of those sight.

@Neomalthusiano

3 жыл бұрын

@@engineer6250 On the Western Front, the German trenches were mostly about 100 to 120 meters away. Sometimes, they were as close as 35 meters. At this distance, the shortest distance setup was more than enough. Standing up for volley fire would mean getting mowed down by machine guns or shrapnel from enemy artillery shells.

So much of firearm development was limited by the then state of the art of the ammunition and the industrial ability to provide it in quantity. From powder chemistry to case and projectile metallurgy, ammunition technology is a big part of the story. Would love to see you start at least an occasional "Forgotten Ammo" series and tell us the stories not just about the ammo, but the people and history that went with it. You mention tidbits here and there and I often wish for at least drawings or photos to go with it. This is a subject I know much less about and would love to hear more. Keep up the great work, Ian, and am so looking forward to the next book!

@Ridinfixinman

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent idea!

@Rational_Redneck

3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see that. There is so many random, odd, and forgotten rounds and families of rounds that I've probably never heard of.

@patrickseaman

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rational_Redneck Exactly. And like I said, it's not just the technology itself -- it's just as much about the people, the politics, and the historical setting that is relevant to why things happened the way they did.

@PrototypeSpaceMonkey

3 жыл бұрын

R.I.P. HK G11, we hardly knew you.

@Simon_Nonymous

3 жыл бұрын

Hi and welcome to Forgotten Ammunition. Yes I am aroused already.

Until sixty odd years ago most New Zealand high schools had military cadet training as part of their programmes. I remember seeing in the school armoury racks full of what are known locally as NZ carbines. These disappeared when cadets ended and have become highly collectable. I'm not sure of to whom they would have been issued as we have traditionally focused on infantry, with what mounted troops we had being mounted rifles, infantry with mobility provided by being on horseback. There were cavalry during the land wars here but local terrain does not generally lend itself to cavalry charges or mounted recon.

@iancoates1799

4 ай бұрын

The NZ Pattern was issued to the NZ Cavalry in the Boer War when it was found that the LE Mk1 was unsuitable as it had to be carried slung across the back. 500 in one order and 1000 in a follow up. The smallest (rarest) Lee Enfield order supplied.

Then, there are the "other" early-ish carbines: The New Zealand pattern and the R.I.C (Royal Irish Constabulary), variants, both of which were fitted to accept bayonets.

What an elegant looking rifle. Just beautiful.

When your carbine is about as long as your rifle

18-inch barrel is considered a carbine. Today that would be a full size rifle.

@user-njyzcip

3 жыл бұрын

The M1 Carbine had 18" barrels too. AKs have ~16" barrels. About half of the French-ordered HK416Fs have 11" barrels… And they use them as rifles

@austinm.9832

3 жыл бұрын

Well .303 and 5.56 are different rounds.

@jeffreyroot6300

3 жыл бұрын

Still technically a carbine. So is the M16 at only 20 inches.

@jeffreyroot6300

3 жыл бұрын

Max yes, it is. Traditional carbine length barrels are below 22 or 23 inches. Short rifles are up to 25 inches or so. Full length rifles were usually 30 to 36 inches, though in muzzle loading days they could be longer. Muskets were usually in the longer barrel lengths as well.

@jeffreyroot6300

3 жыл бұрын

Max Sure, just like they are all AR15s. 😁

Cavalry carbines have always been my favorite. Great work as always Ian!

Hopefully Ian will discuss the Lee Enfield/Metford's with British Muzzleloaders

@Simon_Nonymous

3 жыл бұрын

yes that would be a good double feature, especially if all done like Rob does it inperiod costume. Oh bring the Bloke and Chap on the Range over too. Should only be a few days worth of video.

congratulations on getting your hands on Lee rifles and carbines in such good condition

One of the things I enjoy the most about your videos is the little details like the removal of the cleaning rod. I have a related question. When did the traditional hand grip to shoulder stock become somewhat standardized?

The grain on the wood stock and hand guard looks just like the grain on my dinner table.

This configuration was largely used by the bushvelt carabineers in the Boer war and the light horse (mounted infantry) during WWI. Cavalry may have been the intended market but it had broader applications in the end.

@51WCDodge

3 жыл бұрын

Scapegoats of Empire, I'd recommend both the film and the book, that can be got free on Gutenberg Press.

@jamesblakebrough6442

3 жыл бұрын

I thought mounted infantry has long lees? My great grandfather was Imperial Yeomanry during the Boer war and was issued a long lee

@kevinoliver3083

5 ай бұрын

During the 2nd Boer War many cavalry were issued with rifles instead of carbines. They mostly fought as dragoons, and rarely fired when mounted. So accuracy at range was more important than ease of handling. And by WW1 carbines were restricted to Yeomanry (reserve cavalry) units. And had been completely replaced by 1916.

I own a No4 mk2 SMLE (we can still have bolt actions in Australia) I would love one of these though. It's awesome when Ian does reviews on commonwealth firearms.

Jeez they are classy looking.

Quite enjoyed how you've done the Lee rifles as a sort of mini series.

I have a Norwegian Krag carbine, it's definitely smaller than a rifle and much more handier

I think that mag could hold at least 10 and still be slick. Sweet guns man

@geodkyt

3 жыл бұрын

A double column, double feed 10 round magazine would come to the bottom of the trigger guard, just like an SMLE.

@geodkyt

3 жыл бұрын

@@slaughterround643 they were single stack mags, probably because they were the first detatchable box mags...

@dwightehowell8179

3 жыл бұрын

An SMLE magazine would most likely fit.

@mrscalliwag4152

3 жыл бұрын

@@dwightehowell8179 I'm afraid not mate. SMLE mag would not fit this Lee carbine as different design and dimensions. I.E Single Vs double feed stack system.

@mikehoare1338

3 жыл бұрын

@@dwightehowell8179 no it wouldn´t

I love the smell of .303 in the morning

@criffermaclennan

3 жыл бұрын

It smells of tea and victory!!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

@MegaNato111

3 жыл бұрын

@@criffermaclennan I couldn't have said it better myself! Smashing!! 🇬🇧🇬🇧

@mechghost5742

3 жыл бұрын

I learned to shoot using .303 at 8yrs old 😀 good memories.

@thecanadianlanboy8132

3 жыл бұрын

@@criffermaclennan smells more like farts if you are running Mk7

Thank you, I have been looking for a video on both Lee Metfords and Lee Enfield rifles ever since your video on the Charlton Automatic Rifle! (Cheers From NZ)

I've wondered for a while why the SMLE has a full length front stock- now I realize it was, like these carbines, for using with the cavalry trooper's scabbard/bucket. Thanks!

Thank you , Ian .

54 minutes ago. Can't wait to see "3 years ago" like all the others.

@sawyere2496

3 жыл бұрын

It does feel like every forgotten weapons video was released at least 6 months ago

@HarrisonCountyStudio

3 жыл бұрын

At least once a week, I find a 6+ month old Forgotten Weapons video in my feed that I somehow missed. I love the information.

@coltonreeves6893

3 жыл бұрын

Iascaire what are you talking about? He uploads multiple videos a week pretty consistently.

I'm glad I found your channel. Love guns....

Thank you for another great video. Would love to see how these compare to a No. 5 in terms of portability and recoil.

Great info as always, thanks.

Great video on a great rifle

Always wanted a Lee carbine. Money has never permitted me to though.

@smartacus88

3 жыл бұрын

Do like me, and put yourself on starvation rations for a month. You get a gun and lose weight. Win-win.

@Lrr_Of_Omikron

3 жыл бұрын

I know your pain. Hey , I got a great idea. What if we both put out money together and share the gun? I can take it every even day and you get odds. Also I'll need it for 3 weeks in october while I'm at parents for their anniversary. Wait I'm making this to complicated. You can have it the first 6 months of the year and I'll take it for the other 6. So we doing this?

@johnxina2465

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lrr_Of_Omikron ill do it, send me your half first and you can even have the first 6 months, sound great?!

@Lrr_Of_Omikron

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnxina2465 oh heck yea, wait hold on. Your not gonna burn me like the last guy and steal my money right? I mean you seem like a straight shooter but still you never know.

@johnxina2465

3 жыл бұрын

@@Lrr_Of_Omikron Nah never that g, I'm official 💯

As an Englishman I envy Americans for their free availability of such historical rifles. I have used .303 Lee-Enfields in times gone by, owned a Mauser 98 and a Mle 1886 Lebel rifle , illegally, and then surrendered them during an amnesty (probably at the bottom of the North Sea as we speak, 50 years later.) Like it, or not, British (& American) history is tied up in these "tools of the trade" and Utopians will not win the next war as hard as their "massive" brains may try. [If you don't have good infantry you have nothing. Personal view, not Confucius] Anyway, thanks for your amazing historical & perspective views. Remember, you rebel B------, you are literally the last bastion of freedom.

Thanks Ian

That carbine look great to me, seems very handy; dk about the follow up shots... but look good and handy to me.

Love your videos. Is there any chance you would consider making a playlist for the Vietnam war similar to the WWI and WWII playlists? Keep up the great work!

This is so cool, I’ve been hoping (🇨🇦) for more Lee Enfield info on FW. BTW, I’m really into fine wood finishing, is that stock finished with linseed oil or teak oil or Polyurethane or...? It’s beautiful. Thanks!🤠

That thing is beautiful.

More Lees! Very cool, was waiting for this

Exposed to sunlight? Evidently this rifle didn't remain in Britain.

Last night I had a dream I met Ian and Doug Demuro at a park near my house lol. Random!!

God those are my dream rifles I love the MLM and the MLE so to have carbine versions of them is just god tear

It's possible that the single-point vs two-point sling debate is as old as humanity.

@8mmmauserman

3 жыл бұрын

I have a single point sling on the club that I use to wack Olog when he tries to steal my Mutton.

@Jamoni1

3 жыл бұрын

@@8mmmauserman But the two point will stop the club from hitting your junk if you have to transition to pointed stick.

@8mmmauserman

3 жыл бұрын

Jamoni1 ah, yes. I remember an incident where that happened during a 2 club match.

I love the design of the Lee-Metford Cavalry Carbine.

I'm holding out for the Lee Marvin

@Garrumx

3 жыл бұрын

I'm waiting on the Lee Majors myself.

@redharlaw2782

3 жыл бұрын

I’m waiting on the Lee Iacocca.

@lewisirwin5363

3 жыл бұрын

As soon as I can, I'm getting a Lee Royjenkins myself.

@extrastuff9463

3 жыл бұрын

@@lewisirwin5363 That one won't make it to production stage, somehow it'll manage to drive people testing prototypes into suicidal adventures.

@SG-me2kq

3 жыл бұрын

Available only by the dirty dozen.

He did it again! He didn't post a vid yesterday.

@patrickseaman

3 жыл бұрын

I recall some time ago he had said he wasn't going to post regularly on Sundays

Neat video, as always of course. Hmmm . . . based on recollections along ago BBC series 'The Gun' the cavalry in the Boer War did have do a fair bit of fighting dismounted, where they did find the short range of the carbine a major disadvantage, whereas the infantry the "long" rifle, unnecessarily heavy, so hence the SMLE for the both arms. And also - if someone with a better knowledge of British early 20th century cavalry tactics than I have might be able to confirm or deny this - it became realised that dismounted fire action, as opposed to mounted shock action, would be increasingly important to mounted troops. And FWIW the SMLE carbine (I think) gets a guest spot on BBC/HBOs 'His Dark Materials' as the long arm of one of the characters . . . the American aviator guy, can't remember his name.

I have one that was a cub or cadet rifle . Its re barreled and it marked as such I shoot it and is in good condition .

Awesome!

That early shot of the pitted crown gave me an involuntary spasm of horror. 0:18

Like most of us I already knew about 8-rnd L-M mags but have never heard of a 6-rnd. A few days ago I asked in the comments of another L-E video of yours about the linked magazine - so nice of you to answer me by using your powers to lead me to this video! (just wondered, is it only on L-E's that the cleaning rod is removed? I will wait a few days and see which video answers that...)

@PaulP999

Жыл бұрын

Me again - actually you worked in even more mysterious ways because I've found that I had asked Jonathan Ferguson that question (linked mag) - I think we all need you, JF and C&R to live in one firearms commune to save us time? (as I say that I start getting nervous about "the Feds" getting the wrong idea...)

You make so many videos. Im never sure if its 6 minutes or 6 years since posting. Keep it up.

There is a Canadian guy who gets into these as well. Britishmuzzelloaders on youtube

@matthayward7889

3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant channel! Love watching his stuff. And the scenery is stunning.

now this is really high speed low drag!

Am I the only one who wishes that we had contemporary calvary that weren't tanks, but like infantry troops that ride mechanized horses that fire from their snouts or something? I mean, that would be way more dangerous than tanks, so the actual troop would probably also need to be at least a cyborg riding a mechanized horse but if we're going that direction then you'd obviously want them equipped with some kind of energy melee weapons capable of destroying the other mechanized horses (or tanks, depending on how antiquated the other army is I guess). I guess my point is these carbines are really beautiful and my favorite so far in this series of Lee Metford/Enfield weapons you've been doing.

@jubuttib

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think you're the ONLY one, but I am glad none of you guys are in charge of military expenditures.

@tellmewhenitsover

3 жыл бұрын

Wut

@Andrewbert109

3 жыл бұрын

@@jubuttib ha ha me too

@Andrewbert109

3 жыл бұрын

@@tellmewhenitsover They're just really beautiful antique guns, I love the old British military rifles from this period and something about these carbines is just so elegant looking

Reference material used for this episode: Ian.

I used to have an Lee Enfield Tanker carbine in .308 w 10 round detachable magazine. I bought it in 1992. It was just a shortened No.1 maybe. Was that an actual issue or just a gunsmith's special? It was very short. 18" barrel maybe. It was called the Bulldog Carbine.

@itsapittie

3 жыл бұрын

I remember when those were fairly common. I'm pretty sure they were conversions for the civilian market. They were handy little rifles.

@roosterj2599

3 жыл бұрын

@@quentintin1 That's what I thought. The wholesaler I bought guns from would always throw in an extra tokerev pistol or a paratrooper sks because I was ordering cases at a time. I wish I still had that little rifle. Whoever built them did a great job and the bore looked great. It was accurate enough I guess. I got an arsenal refurbished Spanish FR8 carbine from the same guy. It and the Bulldog were the same length.

@roosterj2599

3 жыл бұрын

@@itsapittie Yeah. Exactly. I carried mine around everywhere. I had in the trunk of my first police unit near 30 years ago. I was a cop in a small town at the bottom of the Sacramento mountains in NM. Deer would come down the highway and into town. Sometimes somebody would hit a deer, buck or die. Fish and game would give it away to people in town.

@51WCDodge

3 жыл бұрын

There have ben a few Sawn Off SMLE, mostly feild adaptions from rifles that were otherwise unsevicable. Tunnellers used a few in the Great War. A friend in Belgium lit a bonfire in his feild one night in celebration of the end of an event. We were all standing around toasting succes, when all hell broke loose , bangs and flashes and whining bullets , we all hit the ground. The fire on later examniation was found to have been started over what was left of a SMLE.

About time.

10:45 metion of the arisake and bore condiditon as far as i know arisakas have chrome lined bores thus significantly helping out barrel wear ....... also mentioning the "little amount of wear" the hammered ass front end of the bot is not mentioned you can see it curling over from repeated heavy use

oomgg, it's so tinnny! Mum, can we keep it?

Pretty much the same leather rear sight cover and stud/screw as used on the previous Snider and Martini Cavalry Carbines.

I would love to know the title of the book with the long barell revolver with detachable stock on its spine

5:49 Come in!

Remember when you would get on a horse and pull these things out of nowhere in bf1

@Hyena-hy2ni

3 жыл бұрын

wacko I’m sure it’s a M1 carbine because the rifle in battle field 1 was semi auto and it didn’t need manual pullback

@OldDanTucker

3 жыл бұрын

well the only one for the horse was the 1895 Russian but yes. that was and still is one of my most played games. I should play it again.

@MrRowrow22

3 жыл бұрын

Noah Sanders there’s still always 10-20 live online games when I go back to it

@OldDanTucker

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRowrow22 nice. i gotta get on then

@OldDanTucker

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hyena-hy2ni that didn't exist in ww1

Great video, thanks. I was wondering, given that they made only 60k or so of the cavalry carbine rifle, compared to what I have been told is 17 million? SMLE / no.4, are the cavalry carbine rifles much more collectable? Are they more valuable on the open market?

Who is going around thumbing down informative videos weirdos. Pleasant video as usual sir.

@nolanolivier6791

3 жыл бұрын

Probably those weirdos who felt offended by the video where Ian used a Chiappa Trinity while in costume as Jesus...

THEY LOOK SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE MK. III

Ian keeps saying Metford rifling is polygonal, but that's not right. Metford rifling has a round groove, rather than squared edged as in normal ["Enfield" in this context] rifling. Metford wasn't polygonal ["Whitworth"] rifling, it was its own thing, the rounded groove enabling the BP fouling to be somewhat self-cleaning, but the very subtle nature of it meant that when cordite came along w/ its MUCH hotter combustion temps, it eroded the Metford rifling rapidly, plus the fouling was so much less that the need for Metford rifling was eliminated, so the shift to Enfield rifling was done.

With the cleaning/clearing rod omitted, was there ever any case of a rifle made inoperable because of a stuck case and no one had a rod to push it on of the chamber?

I noticed that the wider sling swivels were on the right side of the carbine. If you try to carry it across your back, I'd think that the bolt handle would dig into your back something awful.

2 questions...the magazine looks like the same one used in "The Ghost and the Darkness"...do you happen to know anything about that rifle, either the one used in the movie or the one used by the actual hunter? Second, were they actually able to use the single load / magazine cutoff system in the cavalry? As someone who's done a fair amount of horseback riding, I can't imagine fumbling with a single cartridge and loading it into a chamber while at a brisk gait, much less a full gallop...seems like a great way to lose cartridges. I'm trying to figure what the procedure would've been to make use of such a system.

The double, head to head arrow stamps, signify 'sold out of service', or released into the civilian market. You're quite welcome.

In the good old days you didn't need rails for rifles, if you wanted to add something new you just bolted it to the stock. Wood forever!

I really want an Ishapore!!!

No Ian, long enfield for the infantry, short enfield for the ARTILLERY. It´s the same thing with a bayonet lug but shorter. The cavalry carbine has no bayonet lug, bacause troopers have sabres. The auxillery services would have got Martini-Henrys or even Sniders if native. Yes, they didn´t come out with an artillery carbine from the start, but there were some couple of hundred carbines made.

I like these rifles a lot and I mean all Enfield rifles. I would really like to have one like in the movie ghost and the darkness. They are very unique in America.

What was the thinking behind having such a short cleaning rod? If you have to screw 2 or 3 together to clear a jam wouldn't it be problematic when you have the native hoards bearing down upon you?

Ian, Would this type of carbine been used by the Bushveldt Carbineers in the Boer War?

@scottdrone-silvers5179

3 жыл бұрын

Rule 303, don’t you know...

At 9:24 you can see specks of white dotting the finish. I’ve had this on probably 25% of the guns I’ve owned, it’s like droplets of white paint. Anyone else ever encounter this?

At 9:33 it looks like there is white paint overspray on the rifle.

Sorry, I know this has nothing to do with this video but when can we expect an update on the bullpup book? I’m excited to learn about weird shaped pew pews

Up next? What would Stoner do with the EM2

There is something wrong with the Lee Milford carbine. The barrel is too short and the bayonet lug dis not look right???? Please explain

What were these rifles finished with? Parts of mine look like they are blued, but others look too thick to be bluing.

It seems unfair that the artillery and engineers were expected to use only single-shot weapons until you realize that the original Lee weapons could only load one round at a time, so once the magazine is empty, you either stop shooting to load the magazine back up, or you just single-load after each shot to keep up the fire. Suddenly, the Engineers and Artillery are not that bad off compared to the infantry and cavalry. Of course, I would rather have a magazine and not need it than not have a magazine at all, but until the British figured out how to use chargers, the Mausers and Mannlichers really had the edge in firearms with their quick-loading clips.

I would love to add one of these beautiful carbine's to my collection but I think it would be easier to find Jimmy Hoffa. I have a few Enfield rifles but only one carbine and that is a Ishapore 2A carbines in 308. For some reason my dad loved this rifle so it was one that I kept. It's a fun one to shoot but the wood comes off after a few shots. I found a sporterizes from stock on ebay. I won it for $8.00. I felt bad because the guy was hoping to get more so I sent him a check for $20 so he didn't take such a big hit on it. I just didn't feel good about only paying $8 for it. The shipping was more then that. I know people will call me a fool for doing that but I think would I want that to happen to me. I would have been really bummed out so I did it to make me feel good. The guy was super happy that I did it so I guess everyone was happy. I have to do some work on the stock. It appears to be a bit shorter than it should be but a quarter of a inch. I have been waiting to fix it until I have fixed a few other rifles with the same problem. So far I have repaired 6 stocks from other manufacturers. I'm still not comfortable with my skills to work on my dad's carbine. I really only have one chance at it and don't want to mess it up. I could take it to a good gunsmith but I like to fix things myself if it's something that I am comfortable with. I see we have the same taste in books. I think I have about 8 of the same books for reference as you do. I don't have War Baby 2 yet. I'm a M1 carbine freak. I live them. I wish they had a upper for my AR-15 in .30 carbine. I guess there is no reason with the 300 blackout. The ballistics are about the same with a 110 gn bullet. I love my 300 blackout for the wide variety of bullets that it can shoot. I know it's not a antique firearm but I still love it but it's not a M1 carbine. I love your channel. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. Happy Safe Shooting 🇺🇸💪

@ldkbudda4176

3 жыл бұрын

You have the Heart!

Funny how USA postings on the SMLE MkV claim that it kicked too much due to being shorter and lighter but no Troopers complained of their MLM Carbines in the South African War.

@berhorst59

3 жыл бұрын

You mean the nr5. MkV was a nr1 with an aperture rear sight. Pretty rare, only between 20k-30k were built.

@johnfisk811

3 жыл бұрын

The Rifle No. 5 Mk I.

@deadflowers7017

3 жыл бұрын

How do you know no one complained?

I mentioned this on another video, but the carbine sling was not if they dropped the carbine, but so they could drop the carbine. All this fuss about making it easy to go in the bucket, but why not just keep the sling?

Imagine a video on the carbine pronunciations around all communities

My dad pronounces it "kahr-bean". He works at a horse ranch. His name is Larry. Larry the Stable guy.

How effective was volley fire?

More commonly known as the "Clop Clop Boom Boom"...

I used to own a L E Carbine. It was easier and more pleasant to shoot than the No5 that I owned.

forgotten weapons superb educational utube site ian mccollum one top guy pasion and knowledge of weapons second 2 none

Serious question: smokeless powder or not, did they really expect people to hit anything at 2000 yards with iron sights? In large parts of the world you can't even see that far without hills or trees in the way

@jubuttib

3 жыл бұрын

Was probably more for like company or platoon level operations. A few hundred guns shooting at a formation or known location of enemy 2000 meters/yards away can still cause disruption, or even damage, even if no-one is expecting any given soldier to hit anything.

@shyfox_69

3 жыл бұрын

^ What he said. It was for harassing fire, essentially, especially in the days before machineguns.

@MrFreddyFartface

3 жыл бұрын

@@jubuttib Ah I see, well that makes a lot of sense, so that would be similar to suppressive fire but instead of pinning the enemy behind cover, you'd give them a good scare while they're cooking or taking a dump at camp

@WALTERBROADDUS

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@salvadorsempere1701

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. They expect. If you make 100 man shot 100 rounds to 100 enemies, and you get a hit per each 1000 rouns, you have decimated your enemy.

Plenty of long range volley fire as late as the Second Sudan War

Did they drop the magazine to load them or load them with magazine still in the gun? Seems to defeat purpose of a removable magazine when linked to gun. I understand it would be easy to drop the mag on horseback by why make it removable then?

@bl4cksp1d3r

3 жыл бұрын

They'd probably use clips, but a detachable magazine was easier to manufacture than building the integral magazine

@a4channoob

3 жыл бұрын

He said it pre-dates use of clips.

@SLON-sh2jg

2 жыл бұрын

Because it's an infantry rifle conversion, not built from scratch.

Carbine of an advanced musket=full size modern rifle length

Why did they bother making the magazines detachable if they are linked to the guns? Is it just for cleaning/disassembly?

@mahashma449

3 жыл бұрын

Ease of reloading in the age before stripper clips.

@SLON-sh2jg

2 жыл бұрын

To not lose. Long Lee could be equipped with a second magazine, but there is nothing about their use with a carbine.

The G 98 was one of the best bolt actions of WW1 yet it should have been a carbine length rifle since bayoneting Calvary was an outdated tactic.

@ForgottenWeapons

3 жыл бұрын

There was a carbine version of the Gewehr 98 in German service, it's just very rare today.

@G-Mastah-Fash

3 жыл бұрын

The Kar 98AZ existed back then and was produced in relatively large numbers, but a lot of those carbines were used by the Sturmtruppen and blown to bits or worn out beyond repair in WW1 or got issued late in WW2 and were the destroyed then. You can sometimes see Volkssturm and Volkgrenadier units field them in old pictures, you just have to look for the big stacking hook at the muzzle. Ian even has a video in which he buys one at an auction I believe.

the camera fell asleep 0:55

I think you will find that all Cavalry units across the globe all used the Russian 1895 Winchesters. Battlefield 1 cannot be wrong.

mmmm tanlines

Hussar!