To all the people saying Lee wins low difficulty, you'd be correct on a realistic/logical battle. However, these battles aren't meant for realism, they are meant to determine who would win based on their skills and traits that each character possesses. Of course realistically Lee would win in a heartbeat but based on Clementine's character traits/skills, she wins.

@charger2940

Жыл бұрын

Lee still has better skills and traits, don't know where this comes from. Lee has far better feats even though both of them don't have very good feats. Besides that Lee is literally stated by the writers to be above a S4 Lilly and S2 Kenny.

@DoctorTymeYT

Жыл бұрын

​@CHARGER show me the exact quote by the writers that claim Lee is above TFS Lilly and S2 Kenny. "Don't know where this comes from" Watch the video again and read my explanations

@Hyphen372

Жыл бұрын

​@@DoctorTymeYT Its actually false, only way lee beats those 2 the guy listed is if clem is in danger (confirmed by Lee's voice actor), and the comment was actually who do they "THINK" and not "WILL"

@reallyoriginalname1221

Жыл бұрын

Well clemetine was an 8 year old when evertyhing happened, and during the final season clemetine was just 16, and probably went the majority of her life without enough food considering its tje apocalypse. Meanwhile lee is a 37 year old man in the prime of his life, probably 6ft+ and moat likely in the 200+ range, who in game has shown the proper fighting experince to take on tough and agile oppenta such as andy st john, molly and the stranger, a fully rested and seemingly fed man while infected and without an arm and heavy blood loss. In general, even wirh good fighting skills Lee would beat her. Skills can do a lot but physically Lee has a huge edge with both his physical abilities, quick thinking and his past fighting experience. Even with weapons lee's shown himself capable and skilled wirh firearms

@charger2940

Жыл бұрын

@@Hyphen372 Bro its literally a writers statement, what they think is what would happen 💀

The student has become the master. Lee would be proud.

@keddenacampbell6903

Жыл бұрын

i think you summed it up nicely

@ishmaeldixon1

10 ай бұрын

Thats all Lee could ask for. He is definitely proud

@Aquaviousyuri

10 ай бұрын

i think that’s what lee would of wanted

@TheBestMusicChannel

9 ай бұрын

He was

@rakanalali2130

8 ай бұрын

You mean more than he is ❤

It's actually a good thing that she's the winner. That means Lee did a great job of teaching her to survive.

@H.K.5

8 ай бұрын

Except she wouldn’t win. She couldn’t even handle James who’s a skinny teenage boy. Lee is a grown man with incredible strength and fighting skill.

@Michael.Myers01

8 ай бұрын

Yes

@enderandroid2306

8 ай бұрын

You make a good point, but in S2 ep1, she escaped walkers, bandits, dogs, and she was able to stitch herself up, and then fight off another walker. and she was younger then. She's only gotten better now.@@H.K.5

@CCstars777.

7 ай бұрын

​@@H.K.5true, i think lee wins bro, the dude was able to choke a man with one hand AND NO OTHER ARM

@H.K.5

7 ай бұрын

@@enderandroid2306 Escaping bandits and stitching herself up doesn’t mean she’d beat a grown man in a fight who’s far stronger and more skilled than she is. She was like 16-17 when she fought James, practically a grown woman.

Meanwhile Clem: All credits goes to Lee!

@shipz...

Жыл бұрын

Fr

@Kmarks_

Жыл бұрын

So ? His feats are not that good still

@Kali_clouie

Жыл бұрын

@@Kmarks_play again

@Kali_clouie

Жыл бұрын

I mean without Lee, Clem wouldn’t have survived all those years

@Kmarks_

Жыл бұрын

@@Kali_clouie so by that dumb logic every student can’t surpass their master ? Lee has 1 great feat sadly that wouldn’t help vs clem

Lee taught her everything she knows😭

@Kmarks_

Жыл бұрын

And her feats better

@Seeker118

Жыл бұрын

@@Kmarks_what is your problem

@Kmarks_

Жыл бұрын

@@Seeker118 ?

@Seeker118

Жыл бұрын

@@Kmarks_ you seem so serious about this

@Kmarks_

Жыл бұрын

@@Seeker118 nah debating is just fun

It’s surprising how little time Lee was in Clem’s life but as clearly impacted her in the long run.

@S475-pb2dp

8 ай бұрын

Maybe about a year? Yeah that's not that long, but if it's the apocalypse, people would bond quickly

@Valoelify

7 ай бұрын

@@S475-pb2dp No. 4 months, as was stated in s01e04.

@S475-pb2dp

7 ай бұрын

@@Valoelify wow. Only 4 months? Huge L for Lee. Even Joel survived the 25 years

@vandergamer8682

7 ай бұрын

@@S475-pb2dp he probably wouldn't have died if it weren't for the stranger taking clem

@Faiths123

6 ай бұрын

@@S475-pb2dpit is kinda clems fault for his death

Lee was the most badass character he litrally went into zombies without thinking

@H.K.5

8 ай бұрын

That was only after he got bit because he had nothing to lose.

@mixedplayer56

7 ай бұрын

Nem volt mit tennie ellene, ez volt

@omkarshrivastav2954

2 ай бұрын

Without his arm 😢

Imagine how badass lee would be if he had survived longer.

@user-kg8to5wh7o

4 ай бұрын

The walking dead season 5 will be released in 2025 and there will be 5 seasons. The first 2 are completely dedicated to Lee and his background

@Batx0123LOLXD

4 ай бұрын

@@user-kg8to5wh7ohuh?

@user-qo1pz1jm8w

4 ай бұрын

Source?

@Batx0123LOLXD

4 ай бұрын

@@user-kg8to5wh7o huh

@Batx0123LOLXD

2 ай бұрын

@user-kq5fm2ln5g there wouldnt be much story since badass lee would take down carver, lily and new frontier with ease especially if he continues to adjust to the world the way clem did

Let’s be honest here, If Lee survives up to season finale, he would able to handle clementine with ease.

@emiloe6702

Жыл бұрын

but the fact is he died

@futureparadise.2089

11 ай бұрын

@@emiloe6702because of Clementine

@289rory

11 ай бұрын

@@emiloe6702 He forgot his surroundings because he was losing his mind because his adoptive daughter was missing. Makes sense. Same way Clem (potentially) loses her finger trying to protect AJ, just happens.

@Ily.noniii

11 ай бұрын

@@futureparadise.2089she was a kid, she didn’t know not to trust strangers, she trusted lee and thought everyone was kind like him she just wanted to find her parents and plus lee should’ve been more careful watching every corner

@PrisonPlaysFNAF

11 ай бұрын

​@@futureparadise.2089Lee had more than enough time to cut off his arm before he actually did

Damn 3 months is short but enough for us all to bond with lee

@alixtennyson2007

9 ай бұрын

It wasn’t three months. I think people are getting confused with the gap. Season 1 Episode 2 takes place three months AFTER episode one. Not the entire season.

@lucassinclair8885

8 ай бұрын

​@@alixtennyson2007I think he meant kid clem surviving in her home alone before lee

@alixtennyson2007

8 ай бұрын

@@lucassinclair8885 it would of been a few hours if anything.

@berkoutov2521

8 ай бұрын

Не 3 месяца. Когда ли говорил с омидом и кристой у цистерны то он сказал что они встретились пол года назад. То есть более 6 месяцев Клементина была с Ли

@Samuel152

8 ай бұрын

​@@alixtennyson2007Clem survived on her own in the tree house for three days before Lee found her.

I think this is perfect. Lee died teaching Clem fundamentals which she took and eventually used to grow into the survivor she is. He didn’t survive, but she lived on and part of his legacy runs in her, so it shouldn’t be any other way other than she ascended above him the longer she lived on

Lee walked so Clementine could run❤️

"I don't want you to become like me I want you to become better than me " ~Iron man~

She is his successor so she would be doing better obviously.

Lee wanted Clem to be able to survive and taking care of herself in other words surpass him, Aj gonna be a straight up killer 💀💀💀 that boy 5 and already a demon

@Javier_esc

Жыл бұрын

That probably has something to do with him being the son of Carver

@JayceHHHZZZ

Жыл бұрын

@@Javier_esc bruh AJ is black and carver is white aj is not carvers dad Alvin is aj dad

@JayceHHHZZZ

Жыл бұрын

@@Javier_esc and carver is not evil he used to have a family

@Javier_esc

Жыл бұрын

@@JayceHHHZZZ nooooo it's confirmed by ajs mom I believe she told clem also aj's mom is black dum dum

@TheIntermediateGuy

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@JayceHHHZZZCarver is A.J.’s dad

Lee lookin down from Heaven prob saying "Hmph not bad kid..."

@NateDogg8866

6 ай бұрын

*”hmph not bad sweet pea”

@TravisGreen_Music

4 ай бұрын

"Keep that hair short."

In Hevean: Clementine's parents: thank you for being her protector when we couldn't Lee: It was my pleasure

but don’t forgot Lee brought her up to be that way

@mixedplayer56

7 ай бұрын

👍, Lee nélkül nem lett volna ilyen

Even at such a young age, it goes to show how you become a product of your environment. I thought it was awesome seeing little Clementine transform into the ultimate survivalist. Not to mention having to become a mother and a leader for others at the age of 11. You know Lee would be proud despite the circumstances.

Nah, Lee has longer legs & tougher muscles on top of larger lungs, he should easily get speed.

@slayer-qo2jr

6 ай бұрын

Ya the way he got bitten was unfair he was grabbing clems hate and a zombie jumped outta nowhere

@slayer-qo2jr

6 ай бұрын

Hat*

@egorzahryapin3366

2 күн бұрын

Clem has more experience in killing, fighting or whatever. Remember, Lee lived only for 3 months after the apocalypse while Clem for 5 years. Obv she is likely to win except Lee gets lucky as he is physically stronger but Clem's battle IQ might surpass

The thing is Lee died early on so we didn’t see how he would’ve handled certain situations. Also remember that depending on the player’s choice, he strangles the stranger to death with one hand. I believe that if he had lived, he would’ve been unstoppable.

Kenny VS The Governor

@verdun16

Жыл бұрын

Kenny is the GOAT but the governor would probably kill him in 4 minutes.

@officer_friendly_

Жыл бұрын

show governor or the comic governor i think the games are canon to the comic while the show isn't

@stephencarroll9935

11 ай бұрын

​@@verdun16season 2 kenny vs the governor would be a sight to behold

@trey.off3088

10 ай бұрын

kenny would get demolished 😭

@weehoozy4454

9 ай бұрын

That would probably be about the same as Rick vs Governor. Kenny would be absolutely bodied no question 😂

This was way more entertaining than I thought. I don't usually like power scaling videos but this one had citations on why who wins what

If this were to occur, Clementine would die before I could get the sleep out of my eyes.

@CyberFox_2001

Жыл бұрын

ur here ? lol

@PROPHETBLXDE

Жыл бұрын

@@CyberFox_2001 Who are you??

@donohunt0

Жыл бұрын

this is based on skill

@PROPHETBLXDE

Жыл бұрын

Skill saves Clementine against Lee as much as it saves Wolverine against Spider-Man.

Idk why but lee is the best character in this game even tho we only played him in 1 season

The game did Lee dirty by killing him too fast! Usually Lee is careful and believe that he wouldn’t have actually gotten bitten that quick, buttt they had to kill him so Clem would develop and pull out heartstrings :( I miss Lee bruh

Lee vs clementine 🚫 Lee and clementine ✅️ Who agree? 👇

Nah lee definitely won combat you know what he went through to get to clementine 😂😂

@immortaldg442

9 ай бұрын

Lets not forget all the thing clem went through after he died, all seasons included and lets not forget what she went through to get Aj back

These two are my most favorite characters in video game history ❤

Finally someone who doesn't underestimate Clementine BIG RESPECT

@naterybar9106

11 ай бұрын

she is one of the best video game characters of all time I do agree with this versus battle but you know who's not showing the big respect to Clementine the damn comics are literally burning her and all she is, a certified badass into the ground and then shittin on it

@thecollector4574

9 ай бұрын

Who tf underestimates her?! I’m pretty sure almost everyone in the fandom thinks she’s crazy at fighting

@TVGB-Edits

9 ай бұрын

@@thecollector4574 Bro a crazy bastard was saying clem can lose to coral💀 ISN'T THIS UNDERESTIMATING?

Clem was 8 when the apocalypse happened

@laurawolfsong3607

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was looking for someone else who knew that!

clem’s majestic

When Clem gets her leg SLICED open with an axe….HOW….HOW DID SHE KEEP MOVING FAR ENOUGH TO CLIMB SOMETHING

Okay so a 17 year old girl beats a 37 year old man that is really strong loses yeah that makes a whole lotta damn sense

@DoctorTymeYT

Жыл бұрын

Read pinned comment

@user-nm9bg2gm3u

Жыл бұрын

She beat lily and beat abel with and without an arm and abel is older then lee

@JayceHHHZZZ

Жыл бұрын

@@user-nm9bg2gm3u bro what are you sped ? She never beat Lilly Clem had aj help if it was lilly and Clem lilly slams

@user-nm9bg2gm3u

Жыл бұрын

@@JayceHHHZZZ tf

@user-nm9bg2gm3u

Жыл бұрын

@@JayceHHHZZZ she got bagged on by a five year old and lily does not slam get that straight and if anyone is sped its rlly u for saying lily slams even tho she got half a clip unloaded on her and got beat by a 19 year old

Lee is literally the king of clumsiness lmaooo

Without Lee, Clem maybe Died Cant Survive Alone in Her House & Hidding Forever in Tree House. Im Very Respect on This Guy. 🌟💐 RIP Lee

GOATS DON’t fight….☹️

@Furrykiller72killcount7mil

9 ай бұрын

Let be real Clem a goat Lee is on a noulther level

Need more posts that gives small explanations, definitely helps to convince each point within time of the music. Especially if it’s After Dark cause the song always slaps

The very moment when the student surpassed

Damn, I love the background music man

Lee: Hack Infinite Ammo

Lee wins low diff

@PaulShenar1936

Жыл бұрын

Lee taught clem everything she knows no him clem would be done I mean done like she would starve to death also no lee=no radio glenn possibly uses to save the main character of the tv series therefore=no leader for the shows gang so yeah no lee also saved her from the stranger and gave her all the means she needed to protect aj and survive sure one could argue okay but Clem's the one who killed him wasn't her choice however it was lees

@JayceHHHZZZ

Жыл бұрын

Exactly clementine struggled to beat Lilly lee wins no-diff

@DoctorTymeYT

Жыл бұрын

​@@JayceHHHZZZ read pinned comment

@xionmastu4548

Жыл бұрын

@@PaulShenar1936 lee taught Clem how to shoot that’s it

@shadowXD00

Жыл бұрын

​@@xionmastu4548if he didn't save her there would be no clem

Lee would be proud that Clementine surpassed him. He did his job as a dad right. Lee fans should be happy.

Clem: "I might even be better than you one day." Lee: "If you are not, then I have failed."

Lee smokes 😊💀

Combat should go to Lee,he won every fight he had without a weapon(senator,andy,kenny,molly, stranger) and clem was gonna lose against lilly without aj help + she played dirty against abel Leader should go to clem,Lee is a good leader but most of his people died while clementine managed to save all her people and teach them how to fight against delta army I agree with everything else .

@DoctorTymeYT

Жыл бұрын

4/5 of those fights are determinant, and I didn't want to be biased for that. Leader, I was in the middle on and pretty much just gave it to Lee out of pity

@Everett235_ZP

Жыл бұрын

​@@DoctorTymeYT It's up to Clementime to keep loving Lee

@zetsucipher5217

Жыл бұрын

Lee is actually a great leader, its his squad thats broken and mentally unstable

@user-nm9bg2gm3u

Жыл бұрын

tbh him and kenny beat danny with a weapon

Lee winning durability doesn't surprise me. In the last chapter, if you miss any button check at the horde section FOR THE FIRST TIME, you get a second chance as lee will take a bite (I just remembered that if you keep the bitten arm he grabs a glass shard, squeezes his hand around it without a signal of feeling pain and then uses it to fight walkers). Also, in the second chapter, he fights off Andy as he tries to push Lee into *"Testing"* the fence. Heck, seconds later he punches the sh@$ out of him! He can get walkers off of him with just a little bit of difficulty, and, in the first chapter, he holds a door to the drugstore thats being pushed by a horde of walkers, BY HIMSELF. That's a lot right there, but have you forgotten he can actually cut his own arm off ALONE? YES, YOU'VE READ THAT RIGHT, HE CAN CHOP HIS OWN ARM OFF, WITHOUT HELP! That's insane!

She's living because of him 😂

No Lee win

@DoctorTymeYT

Жыл бұрын

I literally gave you explanations on how she got the points to win but you do you bud

@williamafton6984

Жыл бұрын

What is wrong print man

Crazy how Clem went from an innocent little girl found in a treehouse by Lee to this bro

There is no difference between a father and his daughter 😢

Technically if you think about it everything that clementine knows she learns it from lee who acted like a father figure after episode 2 towards her

That was one of the best of these "battles" I'v seen. Good job. And love these 2 so much. My favorite video game characters❤

At least Clem wasn’t the one in child labor aka giving birth at 11 but yet still raised one like a pro

Well Lee is the reason why she knows all this

“Is gifted in gun combat” well she did have a pretty solid teacher!!

Lee was a teacher Clementine was a student; Clementine became a teacher and AJ became a student.

This is a beautifully done edit. Lee taught Sweet Pea her creed and way. He would give her a standing ovation now. 👌🏼

If the student becomes the master then you know you did a good job❤

I always ignored this series.... Until a week ago, I watched the entirety of the 4 seasons in one week and seeing how Clem had grown into a warrior almost makes me proud for some reason Telltale out did themselves amazingly and it's a shame they had to shut down because despite the fact that a lot of their choices have no effect on what happens next, it's needless to say that their story telling is beyond amazing

I like this one cause you actually explain your reasoning and even though the score is in clems favor the traits lee has makes it a high diff because those traits make lee very difficult for someone smaller then him specially even later on clem who's near full grown. But given that clem survived because of lee teaching her how to adapt and learn in such an enviroment i feel like lee is the winner in that sense.

Both amazing either way only if he saw her grow up man he would be so proud

WITh me waiting for the fact Lee taught all and waiting for siiiiike

I miss lee bro I wish he coulda made it to season 2 ATLEAST and as we all know clems bark is worse than her bite

I really wish more people mentioned Christa when talking about Clem. Yes, Lee taught her how to shoot and not to be afraid, but it’s implied that Christa taught Clem how to hunt and survive in the wild. They spent so much time together and yet they didn’t seem to emotionally connect a fraction of how Lee and Clem did. After her disappearance, Christa is practically never mentioned again and it’s such a shame

@AmiraAmira-vt4jw

15 күн бұрын

If omid was’’t dead none of would happen

I liked that he gave reasons which made this whole debate better

Lee: I’m proud of you Clem, I taught you well

no leg woman vs no hang man

I love how you gave reasoning behind your answers made it much easier to understand on my end this qas overall an amazing video but thta detail was amazing

Endurance goes to Lee. The mad lad cut his own arm off.

The people saying lee wins are thinking it’s a 1v1 in a ring or something💀 in the apocalypse environment with the resources they would have in the apocalypse, clem would win🤷🏾‍♂️

I’m glad my girl survived at the end of the finale season but doesn’t make sense why lee had to die and she gets to live 😭 also there’s been rumors about them making S5 I hope it’s true 🙏🏾 🤞🏾

Ученик всегда превзойдет учителя и думаю ли этому рад наблюдая за ней с верху 😌

We not gonna talk about how Lee Survived almost getting electrocuted by electric barbed wire? Survives the sewers with a bunch of walkers in there. But clem did manage in Season 2, to fight off a dog that attacked her and Fight off the Zombie in the Shed in Episode 1. Lee Also can Fight through an entire hoard of walkers with a missing arm, clementine did fight off that Guy Chasing her in episode one too.

Thats why Clementine is my favorite character ❤😍

The fact that Lee took care of Clementine like his own, and she looked up at him as her new father figure in the dream that she had where she was with Lee she gave him one. Final hug she misses him. That’s why when Lily was about to shoot Clementine she wasn’t afraid because she knew she would get to see Lee and when she was at the barn with AJ and AJ was the one that had to defend off because Clementine couldn’t. She was OK with anything that happened because she would get to see again.

Let's not compare them. Its not easily to see both of them are compared. 😢it Hurts 😭 both are the best characters.❤

I love how you exactly explained it

Lee did taught his foster daughter very well before he passed away

Lee was with her for only 3 months and he taught her so much about surviving, Clem "winning" only shows that Lee is one hell of a fine teacher

Nice edit 🔥

El alumno súpera Al maestro..

It was great to hear that song❤

Clementine winning this means that Lee got what he wanted. His sacrifice wasn’t for nothing, he gave everything he had for Clementine, and she ended up being far more adept at survival that he was. That’s what he wanted- he wanted her to survive, to make it work in the end, and she did! She got a family, in the end, in a group that didn’t fall apart for once. She’s a champ and I think she deserves this victory. Lee, I imagine, would agree.

The fight will start and end with a hug

it was sad that Lee died 3 months in but think about it, Clam has been able to live and survive from only been taught for 3 months that’s crazy how much he meant to her and how well he taught her. he would be so proud same as Kenny, they both be so proud of her.

“lee died in 3 months” LMAOO 😭😭

Lee walked so Clementine can RUNNNN!!!

If Lee saw this ...he would have been proud..

Lee went into a horde of zombies without thinking for her

Lee raised her so well🥰 What a masterpiece Telltale's TWD is🔥

the master teach the student and now look where she is now :>>

Lee died in the first few months of the outbreak. Never occurred to me that Lee learned so much in so little time.

Man i miss this game so much

She had a great teacher

He taught her well

Man it's so easy to forget how soon into the apocalypse Lee died. He would be so proud of Clem if he could see her in s4 😢💔

He trainder her is a good ya? We promise you, lee. The real legend.

be hugging eachother becusase lee is bassicly clems

Lee gets speed "self" explanatory