Son, listen to yourself. You're riding LeBron hard like you say about this guy. Numbers don't lie.

@fitlevelup6708

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHA SO TRU

@itscoaley

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly ppl get mad when the stats prove them wrong...

@reverendphillipwaselik7467

Жыл бұрын

Cracks me up.

@DjRose1129

5 ай бұрын

He sucking Lebron lol

@user-vh8vs9oq2b

2 ай бұрын

Flopping doesn't lie. And no flopper can be the goat!

He’s speaking facts. Facts over feelings. He’s is a Jordan fan because Jordan is the goat

@Angellonely1

2 жыл бұрын

When facts make you angry 😂 let’s make a opinion facts to fit your narrative

@tmoney360

2 жыл бұрын

Dangerproductions: Let's take the traditional stat's we all know and understand but let's add "Context" to them. Thank you! (Dangerproductions proceeds to add positional context to each player highlighting Jordan being a better SG than LeBron is a SF) Mannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn fuck context.

@nixedd

2 жыл бұрын

My dude hates the number lol

@joeynarag4480

2 жыл бұрын

Facts over feelings !!! Lolz - my thoughts exactly

@hackedboss9106

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeynarag4480 the dudes context is comparing sfs to other sfs and sgs to other 5th options

You're like all Lebron fans that watch this video: you get depressed by the facts! It took Lebron 17 years to score what Jordan scored in 13! Step out of the dark, young man, and except the facts and the stats you just saw! MJ IS THE 🐐!

@rafaelguasp1141

2 жыл бұрын

These kinds of videos are so satisfying. Psychologists can study human denial in these videos.

@capttokki1811

2 жыл бұрын

@@rafaelguasp1141 fucking true the denial is real then when they see the stats they hang their head lol

@abhi002100

2 жыл бұрын

Lebron is not a killer in clutch like Jordan......Lebron can only say he is the goat...but we all know deep inside who the real goat is

@fongataio2557

Жыл бұрын

Well made analyses of two Great players, facts don't lie,

@darksunatra7701

6 ай бұрын

​@@abhi002100it's because you rarely see Jordan on the losing side in the play offs, that's why.

Lebron Fan: Look at Lebron's stats!!!!! Better than MJ!!!!! Show this video Lebron Fan: That's BS. LOL

@clintonhernandez9740

2 жыл бұрын

That how they be 4 real😂

@barryg.5224

2 жыл бұрын

Word, shit is so sad, it's like they're in denial. They're the difference between a fan & a Stan.

@ericperry27

6 ай бұрын

Bro wanted him to have longevity category TWICE 😂😂😂😂😂

@user-vh8vs9oq2b

2 ай бұрын

The fact prove that MJ is the goat. Lebron is a flopper.

Translation: "Stats that don't favor LeBron are bias. And as long as you play in the NBA for 20 seasons and get top in every stat, you are the best. Somehow." This is how it becomes impossible to have debates with anyone under the age of 29. Facts don't matter, numbers are lies, everything is a conspiracy. Welcome to the paranoia generation.

@nicsundberg8505

2 жыл бұрын

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@jerusalemkebab7815

2 жыл бұрын

Amen!

@iAM2AM

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sapientiaa Sarcasm. It's a thing. I was using it. Read before being a Snap Reactor. Internet is far too full with people that don't understand they agree with who they're arguing with.

@Sapientiaa

2 жыл бұрын

@@iAM2AM My bad I didn’t read the entire thing thoroughly. Although sometimes it’s tough to catch sarcasm through text.

Cmon now bro you’re the one moving stats. He already said cumulative stats (total career points, total assists, etc) are more about longevity than a player’s dominance in any particular game. You claimed to be unbiased and then got annoyed when the stats and analytics (driven by unbiased math) backed up Jordan. I’m not denying dude who made the comparison video is a Jordan fan, but you’re wayyy more biased than he is.

@algladyou

2 жыл бұрын

These lebron fans are like flat earthers on reasonings or logic.

@tmoney360

2 жыл бұрын

LeBron fans would probably argue Frank Gore is a better RB than Barry Sanders because when they look at the most basic stats Gore has 741 more rushing yards all time. They don't want to hear nonsense like Gore played 16 seasons and Sanders played 10. What does the cumulative say?

@hackedboss9106

2 жыл бұрын

Both are bias but the other dude is much more buas

@jerusalemkebab7815

2 жыл бұрын

Pure facts!

@fitlevelup6708

2 жыл бұрын

exactly

I thought your denial was funny until you tried to defend LeBron “checking out “ on D. You defeated yourself by saying MJ had a better Defensive team… Therefore he could have taken off but chose to play, hard, for his teammates yet LeBron checked out on D when he was needed. That’s how you explained it!

@Tcheera

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was crazy! LOL -- especially when you consider MJ won DPOY in a year when his team was still trash in general and zero chance of making the finals due to the competition in the east. But even with a trash team he was still playing all out defense all the time enough to be one of the very few guards to get DPOY.

@USMC-dm3ws

2 жыл бұрын

@@Tcheera 🙏🏽

@tmoney360

2 жыл бұрын

That logic was hilarious. Jordan had other defensive talent and decided to play good defense but LeBron has weaker talent and choose not to play defense? And that's somehow a knock on Jordan and an excuse for LeBron? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@singsingplays1343

2 жыл бұрын

haha. literally punch himself in the face.

@Deano12345ist

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this dude has no clue. I can't believe he posted this video!

This is the most denial I’ve ever seen from a person who says they aren’t bias 😂 “showing stats to favor Jordan” he says. You mean the standard of stats the nba uses 😂 clown.

MJ is the only player to win Scoring Title and Defensive Player of the Year in the SAME year...that's incredible for anyone to accomplish...he was relentless on both sides of the ball...do the research bro, you'll see just what we're talking about..I saw MJ play and Bron play...2 different styles...MJ couldn't be compared to anyone...and still can't.

@DailyMIKAL

2 жыл бұрын

Nahhh I agree that the accomplishments goes to MJ and I even agree mj should have won more categories than bron but bro literally took it from unbiased to trashing bron

@DailyMIKAL

2 жыл бұрын

Ohhh Ik wilts not a scrub he’s top 10 all time I was just saying bro was contradicting him self cause earlier he was talking about Bill Russels rings and said but he was playing in a smaller league and kinda discredited them but then turned around and put wilt and bill on his Mount Rushmore and thanks bro I appreciate the support

@narcisorivero5893

2 жыл бұрын

The dude didn't contradict himself in the video he did his research. He gave u fair comparison of both player's. The results was just not what u wanted because numbers and fact don't lie.

@Sapientiaa

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyMIKAL The man was not riding anyone. He used the appropriate formulas for this comparison. If he had used formulas that were heavily dependent on longevity then it would be NOTHING more than statistical noise. Michael Jordan is the greatest of ALL TIME, and it’s not even close.

@Sapientiaa

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyMIKAL The formulas used don’t show BIAS. You wanted him to use formulas where longevity was a huge factor. That my friend is called statistical noise; THAT is true bias.

lebron has a longer peak cuz he takes games off, he takes plays off, he takes defensive assignments off.. ridiculous.. the game has changed to accomodate these cupcake athletes..

@buggyeboy5809

2 жыл бұрын

Cupcake athletes 😂😂😂😂Nice! 👍

@Sapientiaa

2 жыл бұрын

Jordan also retired in 93

@andremcclendon1220

2 жыл бұрын

It’s funny because people say that the athletes are way better now. And it’s really because they are soft in the game so much just like in football

@soramirez5473

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sapientiaa and in 98.. and in 2000 something..

@soramirez5473

2 жыл бұрын

@@andremcclendon1220 every game is softer now.. You cant slide hard into the second basemen in the MLB anymore.. NL pitchers dont have to hit anymore.. whats next? they guna take away that inside pitch?

It's always fun to watch when facts collide with a fan's feelings. lol Thumbs up for the meltdowns!

@naujitking2868

Жыл бұрын

Facts 🤣🤣 can’t believe he uploaded this one lol

'Who else has 6 all defensive teams' Jordan has 9 and they are all defensive 1st team's.

You can't watch these 2 on film and be serious about LeBron being a better player. Jordan's skills are on a whole other level above LeBron.

You’re a Jordan fan and you don’t even know it yet lmao

This generation just can’t handle the truth even when it slaps them in the face

Jordan never has really said he’s the goat. He said that word makes him cringe and that it’s not up to him to decide that. He proved it by the way he played the game

For someone who says “I’m unbias” you seem pretty bias. And even though stats can be one sided. They are still the same across the bored.

@imlaz126

2 жыл бұрын

he stuttered he said he was bias towards lebron

LeBron is one of the greats..but as an "old head"..im telling you, it's really not close..just remember Jordan put those numbers up at a time when you could do things on the court to a man that would land you in jail out on the street. I would have loved to have seen LeBron play against the likes of Shaq, Matumbo, Malon, and so many others that would have not moved out of the way when LeBron drives to the rim. He would not have gone for 20 years in that Era. I watch LeBron play nightly and hope to see something great..with Jordan I watched knowing I would see something great every night. He always brought it.

@nici1782

2 жыл бұрын

I would have loved to see Lebron play against the Bad Boy Pistons (with old rules, full contact).

@hackedboss9106

2 жыл бұрын

@@nici1782 lol lebron would literally bully bill Lanier. Lebron would be so much better not having to face zone and double teams

@nici1782

2 жыл бұрын

@@hackedboss9106 Bill Lanier? I'm talking about Joe Dumars, Bill Laimbeer, Isiah Thomas... The Pistons that won the Trophy, the team that made Jordan miserable for years.

@hackedboss9106

2 жыл бұрын

@@nici1782 lmao he’d literally rock all three of them at once

@hackedboss9106

2 жыл бұрын

@@nici1782 isiah Thomas is already his bitch and joe dumars is 6’3 he would get bullied at the rim by bron

If Jordan played 20yrs he’d have over 50,000 points

@fitlevelup6708

2 жыл бұрын

EASILY!

@idkpls18

2 жыл бұрын

Nah he would have been washed AF just look at his wizards days

@nicsundberg8505

2 жыл бұрын

@@idkpls18 when he was 40yrs old? He was still averaging over 20ppg and hadn’t played for 3yrs

@idkpls18

2 жыл бұрын

@@nicsundberg8505 he would have been 42 if he played 20 years also something called injurys

@nicsundberg8505

2 жыл бұрын

@@idkpls18 this is hypothetical, you realize that right? How many points would a guy have if he played for 20yrs and averaged over 30ppg? Jordan played 13 full seasons and had over 32,000 points. That’s 5th all time in scoring and everyone else in front of him has at least 6 more seasons on him. If he had those 6 or 7 seasons how many points do you think he’d have then? Just 32,000

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. I have to admit... I am a Jordan fan and I loved you being mad the whole time. It was like Christmas all over again. Thanks!!!

Dude uses real stats and facts. You: “you’re a jordan fan”. Sucks when the only thing he has is longevity right?

@lightgaming2125

2 жыл бұрын

I started laughing at this point

@El_Bueno

2 жыл бұрын

They don’t want to hear the facts.

@murahsingleton3105

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Jordan went to college and LeBron came in as a teenager and HE STILL AINT CAUGHT UP YET? HE HAS ABOUT 6 YEARS IN THE LEAGUE THAT JORDAN DIDNT NEED OR HAD. LOOK WHERE THE LAKERS ARE NOW! 🤣😂🤣😂

@TheBandit-cp7vl

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

You're emotions will choke you. Humble pie, humility, the quelling of emotions will make you a greater man.

26:55: I don't think you understand what the term inconsistent means. Dangerproductions is 100% correct that LeBron is an inconsistent defender. He clearly stats that LeBron has proven he can be an elite defender...when he wants to be. Even some of Lebrons biggest supporters like Shannon Sharp have pointed out that there are years where he clearly wasn't putting in the effort on defense. That up and down quality on defense is exactly what he means by inconsistent. Additionally it's really funny that just a little while later when the video mentions he hadn't cracked the top ten at his position you say "he don't give a shit no more." Then just a few seconds later you say "Facts" when it mentions LeBron puts little effort on D so he has energy on offense. You don't even realize you just agreed with his point that LeBron is inconsistent.

@StylesD83

Жыл бұрын

I almost, choked on my water when he agreed LBJ was resting on defense so, he could focus more on offense. How did he not know, his own admission totally, destroyed his own argument on LBJ being a consistent, defender? 🤨. There are literally, compilations on this platform of LBJ giving up on defense. He was practically, load managing while, on the court. Lol I truly, think most LBJ fans ignore and accept LBJ's quitting on defense. Once you see it, you can't unsee it. They just pretend LBJ remaining on the other end of the court while, his teammates are outnumbered by 1 man on the opposite side, is a strategic advantage. 😂 They don't hold him accountable for anything.

He's not sucking. It's facts. He's not resting on defense. It doesnt matter if he has defender on his team. MJ is still not resting at the same time.

Nice reaction. Just some advice for what it’s worth… I wouldn’t try to argue with the facts, that’s why they’re facts. I know in today’s day & age people feel like their feelings are more important than the facts, but in reality they aren’t. Facts are not bias, that’s why they’re called facts.

27:29 Jordan was defensive team 9 times mate lool and Jordan won defensive player of the year. Lebron does not defend anymore,MJ was still defending when he was in his late 30's...so yes compared to MJ Lebrons defence is a weakness.

@mrblob5413

2 жыл бұрын

He was defending in his 40’s too.

Here’s what people who didn’t actually watch Mike’s full games over years don’t see… this dude was so clutch in every area all throughout the game, every game, that it sounds without seeing it with your own eyes you just can’t believe it. Dudes game was ferocious and tight every night. No one has his focus. If you haven’t seen it, you can’t imagine it. Think Lebron when he’s totally locked in and going all out, holding nothing back. That WAS Mike EVERY game. Real talk.

Let me correct you young fella, Lebron passed Jordan with less 2-POINT Field Goals, but way more 3s. Look it up yourself. If he had the same points in less shots he would have a MUCH higher FG%.

Maybe he is a Jordan fan but the stats don't have a bias. He has the stats to back up his claims. Additionally with your game-score critique of making up stats to favor Jordan, game-score was created before Jordan entered the league.

@DailyMIKAL

2 жыл бұрын

I was saying them making stats to favor Jordan is the +/- because he said Russell Westbrook had the highest in a season ever and someone went to fix it which I totally understand Russell shouldn’t have the highest 😂then they went to fix it MJ had the highest

@jacksmith4460

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyMIKAL he's not though. literally the only stats that favour Lebron are career totals, and that does not really say much, but lets say you had that as a category of stats, Lebron wins that, you still have the multiple category's that this guy listed that MJ dominates in...so its still in MJ's favour. The stats are not biased. I will say this I think he is an MJ fan, but I think he wanted to hammer the point home because there is far more evidence on the MJ side, because there just is

@jacksmith4460

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyMIKAL so there is a conspiracy to keep MJ at the top? or is it just that the guy realised his stat was broken and the tweaked it to reflect reality. Let's not forget stats are just stats, they are not real they are just on paper, what is real is the player playing. So we use them to make decent guesses at who is the best because really , no one really knows. But however you break it down, MJ wins the majority of those stat break downs, not all but most

@algladyou

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyMIKAL dude. They fixed the formula. Are you saying westbrook is better than lebron at that part? Because they fixed it and lebron is now on top of Westbrook

@mrblob5413

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyMIKAL let’s say you played for 200 seasons and finally beat Lebron’s total assists record. I suppose you’re better than Lebron now?

Here's the thing my dude. Both Kobe AND Lebron were inspired to play basketball BECAUSE of MJ. There are plenty of interviews where they say this. They both copied MJ's playstyle, wore his number and tried to be as great as MJ was. Kobe came close to MJ's greatness, AI and Pippen probably next. Most points, most rebounds and most assists, ever don't mean anything when someone plays 2x longer than you. Jordan, during his prime, would be playing all 82 games right now and raking in 45+ minutes.

"He don't care" So he don't care about free throws or defense for his team but he deserves to be called the GOAT? That makes total sense.

I really enjoyed laughing all the way thru as you simped and smoked copium for LeFlop. MJ is the GOAT. Period

MJ is the Goat.

wow.. you make ALOT of excuses for Lebron.. Jordan fans are ridiculous in a different way.. they think jordan is god.. but lebron fans are just naive.. wow..

@El_Bueno

2 жыл бұрын

Jordan is a basketball god

@soramirez5473

2 жыл бұрын

@@El_Bueno i agree. but jordan fans are worthless religious fanatics that let their ridiculousness overshadow their knowledge of the game of basketball..

@mikeplata3134

2 жыл бұрын

Well, God wears Michael Joedan pajamas to bed so..... 🤷

@mickz1829

Жыл бұрын

yes lebron fans are naive and you already showed it in this comment haha for sure you hurt too haha.

@soramirez5473

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeplata3134 that may be true, but still, Jordan's fanbase are ignorant trash..

"When you're good in something, you'll tell everyone... When you're great in something, they'll tell you"... Basically, Lebron lost the debate at the second 5

These videos always go the same way😂 Lebron delusion in the beginning then Bronsexuality at the end 😂. Never gets old😂 *MJ the world* 🌎 🐐

"I feel like lebron may come out the goat." LOL you in for a shock, and that is something no one says if they were able to watch MJ play. MJ may have had the biggest hands pound for pound with maybe the strongest grip, according to a lot of NBA coaches/players as you can tell from all the one handed shit he does with the ball. He also is tied with darrell griffith (a player from the 80's on the Jazz) for highest vert at 48 inches. He had his vert measured at the 84 olympics and bobby knight(top 5 college coach all time) who was the rookies coach in that olympics said he believed he had more in his vert he said 50-52 inches. I recorded EVERY bulls game from 1990 until 98. You also didn't watch the NBA in the 2000's when everyone called it the leastern conference, it was SO MUCH weaker then the west. But of course it's a "stretch" as it goes against the competition BS that you lebron fans like to hold up as a fact. "Naaa you're not doing that bro" SO the numbers are lying? ROFL If the negative shit he said was about Jordan instead of lebron you'd be clapping saying how true it is. LOL You might as well say ANY team lebrick has faced could beat the bulls finals opponents, and of course "easily" ROFLOLOL he's not "GIVING" stats to MJ, Jesus man you can't be this brain dead. Also I could never pick a dude who got handled in the 2011 finals by a short, 100 pound bench warming scrub in Jason Terry LOLOLOL Lebrick avg about 18 PPG in that finals MJ would have shot himself if that happened to him. Scottie wasn't a better defender. In practice Jordan would lock up Pippen so bad, pippen had to tell him to calm down there are no stories of it being the other way around. Pippen also never won a DPoTY. Yeah finished the vid, you're an idiot who ignores FACTS. You just want people saying lebrick "anti-clutch" james is better fuck numbers, stats, winning.

@trevortamboline279

6 ай бұрын

Delicious...

Dude I m a Payton fan...but MJ was the GOAT I have seen both and MJ was unlike anything I have ever seen. Lebron is a great player and one of the best of all time..but he is not the greatest. Kobe is the closest I have seen. You could make a case for Lebron to be best small forward of all time, but objectively it has to be points per game because longevity is already covered, but he also compares them in their own positions, and MJ kills it there too. I think Golden State might have stopped the Bulls, but in my lifetime they are the only team I think could do it

His second year he broke his foot and didn’t really play that year and still got voted onto the All-Star team. He ended up playing the last 15 games and beat a playoff record that he still holds today scoring 63 points against a Celtics team stacked with 5 HOF'ers.

I loved your reaction to this. Gave me a good chuckle but it also shows something different between generations. We were taught about the players that came before us. I grew up knowing about the greats such as Jim Brown, Bob Gibson, Micky Mantle, Willie Mays, Wilt, Russell, Jerry West, and other greats. My favorite pitcher of all time is someone I never seen, that was Bob Gibson (and I'm a Cubs fan and hate the Cardinals but this man changed the game, that is GOAT criteria all day every day). We could accept that players who came before were better than the players we were watching. I didn't start paying attention to much before 1980 but was privileged to see some of the all time greats and how they made the league what it is today. That said, there is no denying Lebron is great and the fact that Jordan was better does not diminish his accomplishments. I'd say Kobe was probably closer to Jordan in terms of greatness but that's a story for another day. Just be grateful for being able to see greatness unfold in front of you, once they are gone, the game will seem boring for you. Yeah, there will be new greats but it won't compare to the what you seen in your sports watching prime. After all, this is only sports, there are much more important things in your future such as family and occupation which will consume your time. Enjoy it now while you can, life is but a vapor!

Here is my question. Can Lebron do everything Michael can do at the same consistency? If it wasnt for Michael, Kobe wouldnt have the game he had.

It appears that the only thing labron can win at is longevity! Lol!! If anybody plays longer, their gonna automatically build up more stats, which doesn’t automatically make them the better player.

@DailyMIKAL

2 жыл бұрын

He scored more points in less shot attempts so what does player longer have to do wit it

@treykowing6867

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyMIKAL in less shot attempts? You do realize Lebron has played 5 more seasons than mj

@My-by

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyMIKAL What kinda logic is that? You do know that labron have played 5 or 6 more years then Jordan right? Not to mention Jordan retired and came back twice!

@BT405

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyMIKAL Less overall shot attempts but over 4000 more 3-point attempts

@KPRIME43

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, LeBron is better at lots of things. He’s better at: Flopping Wearing toupees Recruiting other All Star players Joining other All Star players

You said name somebody with 1st defensive player. There's MJ. Won DPOY and still won scoring titles.

I agree with you 100% that this clip is biased and he did take some unnecessary cheap shots at Lebron (the worst one being Home Town Buffet reference). However, one thing I don't agree with you is that MJ fans who watched him during his era didn't stopped being a NBA fan after MJ. All MJ fans appreciate what kind of amazing player Lebron is but like he said, Lebron is just not the GOAT.

Totals=longevity. That's the point man. If a player could play for 35 years even making 15pts per game he would surpass LeBron and Kareem in totale Careers points. But would he be the Better scorer or Just a player with more years under his belt? I mean. Longevity Is important. And you have to evaluete in a goat comparison. But you can't use to bend the stat category. Stats should explain the dominance. So it's Better to use per game.

@clintonhernandez9740

2 жыл бұрын

Yes they don’t take efficiency into account

lol you MAD biased.. again i am NOT a jordan fan.. i argue with them too.. but the numbers DONT LIE.. jordan is the greatest..

@hud1231

2 жыл бұрын

I'm confused. why would you argue with Jordan fans if you think he's the greatest and you're saying the numbers back it up....when their argument is "MJ is the greatest and the numbers back it up (on both sides of the ball)

@soramirez5473

2 жыл бұрын

@@hud1231 because Jordan fans will say things like "it wasnt a push" or "he never bricked a dunk" or some childish thing like that.. im not arguing he is the greatest.. im arguing with them over some of the RIDICULOUS things they say. Eminem is great, but he also has DUMB @$$ FANS.. Yankees are GREAT but they also have DUMB @$$ fans.. when you are the BEST expect ignorant BANDWAGONERS to follow.. and THAT is who I argue with..

@soramirez5473

2 жыл бұрын

@@hud1231 and your confusion doesnt mean my point was not made.. I got 26 likes on that comment lol.. it reflex more on YOUR ability to analyze and critically break things down..

@hud1231

2 жыл бұрын

@@soramirez5473 nah, you're just an idi*t...who talks dumb shit. the worst kind of idi*t

@malcolmhodnett8874

5 ай бұрын

@@soramirez5473that made no sense. Your likes had nothing to do with anything besides people agreeing he’s the goat

The GOAT from another medium once said “ A wise man told me “Don’t argue with fools”, cause people from a distance can’t tell who is who”. This kid clear hasn’t seen enough NBA basketball. Just not enough knowledge of the game. Don’t matter if LBJ is you’re favorite cause facts are facts. If you think the video is biased then take the time to point out what you thought was a lie. Just learn the history of the game first kiddo. Until someone can do better, MJ is still the GOAT of basketball.

Just imagine if Michael played in the NBA for the exact many years that lebron played then we could match their numbers that wouldn't please the lebron fans then either The fact that Jordan leads most of these categories with the limited amount of time he played in the NBA because of retirement injury and because of a s***** owner It is amazing

biased toward jordan? do you go around telling others how cool you are or how handsome you are? that's kinda corny.. Ali did it, but he was being tongue and cheek about it, and a showman.. lebron? he quits on his team defensively.. YOU are biased.. and I HATE jordan.. i dont hate lebron.. i think he is a clown.. JORDAN KILLED my knicks teams in the 90s.. i will NEVER forget..

Bro how delusional are you? Your saying he’s biased yet he’s giving you numbers and facts in context, and you just want to ignore it, that’s the definition of biased thinking lol. And you are trying to diminish Jordan’s defence because he played with Pip and Rodman? Jordan has won Defensive player of the year while Scottie hasn’t

@tokinGLX

Жыл бұрын

plus there is that whole fact that rodman was playing for the pistons during the first 3peat that they conveniently forget about. he even brought up ron harper...who also joined the bulls after the first 3peat. the copium in this video is as real as it gets.

I’ll at least give you credit for taking the time to record and post this reaction video. The overwhelming majority of lebron fans couldn’t even bring themselves to do that even if they had the time and resources to do so.

I love younger folks can be shown pictures of a blue sky… and still insist it’s pink.

The man doesn’t hide and built a strong case. He gave a longevity category so he didn’t ignore anything. I’m a data analyst and context and limitations of data matters or else you distort the meaning of stats. The results don’t lie…..MJ the goat.

When he said average basketball fan he meant , he didn't play in the league and he has watched basketball his whole life. You reaching hard bro . He watched basketball while you were in diapers. Stop fronting

The only category Lebron won, you couldn’t even read. lol. 👊🏼

@fitlevelup6708

2 жыл бұрын

hahahahah so true

@dpham247

10 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂

This video right here is one of the best videos that lebron fans can watch because if they don't believe the results they'll never believe and that's OK they love their guy they're supposed to I love Michael but I saw both of their whole careers I'll be 46 this year and I know Who the goat is Michael Jordan

Who cares that lebron passes mj on total career points he's played longer Karl Malone has more career total points than Jordan is he in the conversation man stop it

@DailyMIKAL

2 жыл бұрын

He did it in less shot attempts so what does him playing longer have to do with it ?

@mancycle1

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyMIKAL he's also the all time leader in turnovers. if we're looking at all time leading stats, we need to see the complete picture. Jordan isn''t in the top 30 btw

@tmoney360

2 жыл бұрын

@@DailyMIKAL you can extrapolate that from a point made in the video. LeBron has made those points in less shots because he takes a lot more shots at the Rim. 0-3 ft. Those shots are much higher % than the shots Jordan was taking further from the Rim. It would be like you and a friend trying to see who can get to 100 points in less shots but your friend, who is taller than you, takes more of those shots standing under the basket and you're primarily taking jumpers. Unless your friend is absolutely garbage and your just some basketball god, your friend is going to get to that 100 points sooner because he's taking easier shots.

@tokinGLX

Жыл бұрын

@@DailyMIKAL lebron averages 2.5 as many 3pointers per game. factor in longevity and obviously total points will be higher with fewer shot attempts. thats how basic math works.

He needs to see Jordan's mixtape.

@bernardcopeland9414

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 he would have a heart attack on camera 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

This guy talks about a bias documentary. Well his arguments are highest total points, rebs, assists which LBJ will get because of his Longevity. That doesn't make you the GOAT?! Because an average player will eventually get ALL total stats records if he plays long enough. What's so special about that? Per game stats are what will make a player win a game and show who was dominant during that game. And NOT total carreer stats. If 2 players decide to play against eachother with 1 having higher per game stats than the other but the other having higher TOTAL stats, who wins the game? Silly argument realy.. LBJ fans looking for all kinds of stupid stats to validate their player. MJ would wipe the floor with LBJ any day of the week, especialy knowing how competitive he was. And don't talk about LBJ being physically superior because SHAQ was too and still he was afraid of MJ. LBJ would be having nightmares of MJ's poster dunks on him..

MJ is the only b-ball player I can put in any era of the game and will still dominate the game. We will never see an athlete this gifted, the likes of MJ come once in a generation.

@HouseOfHockey14

Жыл бұрын

I think MJ is Better than Lebron, but cmon now Lebron would dominate in any era too.

@davidfortuin4146

Жыл бұрын

@@HouseOfHockey14 With Shaq - Penny led Magic, Bad Boy Pistons, John Starks and Knicks, The Reign Man and The Glove Sonics. I thinkest not @Chris Tropeano. These literally physically beat the living s#%* out of you and MJ thrived in that climate. It was his domain and he ruled it with an iron fist.

@stevenhurtado2297

Жыл бұрын

@@HouseOfHockey14Jordan would dominate Lebron if they were in the same era. He’d embarrass him and Lebron can try to guard MJ and look dumb

@HouseOfHockey14

Жыл бұрын

@@davidfortuin4146 Lebron is 250 pounds 6 foot 8, fast as lighting 44inch vertical, and so on. He would dominate any era. He’s not as “soft” as you think. The only reason he flops is because that’s the way the games played today.

@HouseOfHockey14

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenhurtado2297 I never said Lebron was better than Jordan lol.

Why is it the younger generation always gets butt hurt every time people try to coach them up and give the stats to back it up, most of the Jordan haters out there haven’t even seen a game of his . I’ll give you props, at least you are educating yourself on the game. Keep up the great content bro. Even if you are a lebron fan 😂

Jordan was 9 all defensive team and 1 time defensive player of the year

MJ was on a different level. Lebron is a top 5 player, but they shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. This debate was manufactured by the media to draw attention to a league that has had ratings fall off a cliff since Jordan retired.

Great reaction bro! Had me rollin! But seriously, your reaction to the stats section shows your bias and lack of recognition of how analytics work.

If you're gonna say you're unbiased, try not to sound so biased

I don't care, in this era a player can play 20 years. Back in the 90's, when the game was physical that was impossible. So you can stick your career-stats where the sun does not shine. ;-) He is an expert, he knows the numbers and you don't. So who is average. He is just decent by saying he is average.

when the dude said "Lebron has no weaknesses" I started laughing + how he missed some key words in some stats 😂 you can see that the maker of the original video is somewhat bias towards Jordan (the clips he showed were making fun of Lebron + in couple places the logic was not great) BUT still +- 90% of the logic is objective and I agree with all 5 major categories and who won there among these 2, but when you are a Lebron fan, I understand that these facts hurt 😅

There’s nothing BIAS about the TRUTH!!!🤦🏽🤦🏽🤦🏽 U see the right answers to a question in front of you and because you don’t like them it’s a lie?

Not even half thru the break down and this young man already flipping over the data. It's about to get alot worse for you young blood. The reason he mentions longevity stats. Is because lebron has played 5 more years in the league then Jordan did. And the longevity mark has already gone to lebron. So all the stats that deal with longevity will also go to lebron. Funny thing is he is barely beating MJ in those areas even with 5 more years. Imagine if Jordan had 16 years in the league. To compare apples to apples. Hahahaha lebron would be outside the building in comparison. So lucky for lebron he does have 5 more years of playing to compare to the Goat. Buckle in my friend. The facts are about to really piss you off. :) at the end of this post. You will have to say simply MJ is the Goat. When looking at all the data. But we know that wont happen. Lebron fans go with feelings and opinions. Not facts and truth. But to each their own. Lebron isnt even in my top 5. Those spots are reserved for the killers of the league. that didn't have to jump ship 3 times to win chips. That has knocked James out of the top 5 for this fan. Let's see where he goes next to try and catch the Goat.

Bro your bias as all get out lol and I never liked Jordan I been a a lakers fan for over 35 years. FYI Kobe got more defensive team's then Bron

I could feel this reactor is having a heart attack...🤣🤣🤣 Probably crying all night after his reaction...🤣🤣🤣🤣

All Lebron has is longevity, longer doesnt mean better.

MJ is the GOAT. LJ is not even close.

no joke, your naturally very funny and have a good sense of humor. Props for watching the whole video, it shows how humble you are bro.

Love when you say "I'm an unbiased person" lmfao!!

Maaan you had me hollerin!!😂 Brah, I too am a Lebron fan. But here's the thing: there's your favorite, and then there is the GOAT. We cant get the two twisted and ignore the stats and eye test. I just don't want you to lose the integrity of your channel because you're obviously a Lebron fan. Dude used alot of research and stats. It's all good...

Claiming facts are biased lol. Lebron the Longevity Goat though. Funny to see this dude in denial, over facts (how could you possibly think it Jordan sucking when it statistical facts)

27:42 "Name me somebody else that has 6 NBA all defensive teams that is an average defender" -- I'll do you one better! Scottie Maurice Pippen had TEN all defense teams, and both other players and he admits that at the end of his career he was just gettin' PAID and he did not GAF about helpin' the team on defense or otherwise. His attitude was -- I'm finally getting my money and not getting hurt. So he was not just average by then, he was sub-par by the end of his career. Guess what? It does NOT matter how many times you get defensive player selections earlier in your career if you decide defense doesn't matter anymore LOL.

The guy in the vid literally said to compare per game stats instead of total stats, because total stats speaks more to longevity instead of per game dominance. Per game stats is a more apples to apples comparison.. That's why he used those stats and not total stats

It’s a shame these kids didn’t get to see Jordan. There’s a reason everyone that’s seen both play says it’s Jordan. It’s not even close, and that’s not a knock on lebron. Jordan was just a different breed. That being said it’s funny watching people be in disbelief over obvious facts. Thinking lebron is better than Jordan is like saying the sun isn’t hot.

@rabidDAWGfan82

2 жыл бұрын

And why does he keep calling stats biased😂😂😂. Also, pointing to overall numbers is just silly. A player than plays 10 years and scores 20k points isnt automatically better than someone that scores 19k in 5 years. And “can’t argue with the old heads”, he says that as they all tell him Jordan is by far better and he acts like they’re wrong. This is great.

so none of lebron's points or assists or rebounds count during the regular season? gotcha.. lol

These Bron fans man, when all the facts favour Jordan. they are gonna say that it's because the person saying it is biased and a Jordan fan.

So you don’t give a damn about regular season, then you can’t count anything Lebron does in the regular season…….including all those cumulative stats you cling on to so hard.

Don't get mad at the person that gives you the Facts and tells the Truth... get mad at the person that made those Facts True...

Lebron 20% in the clutch...........YIKES

No matter what U say, he still gave u STATS for every Category other than Michael Jordans percentage at shooting 94 baskets in the clutch

You call him an average fan but he knows more about basketball between both eras than you do. You only know this era, yet you root for a guy who disrespects the past era by proclaiming himself as the GOAT. He shrugs his shoulders after finishing over smaller players, while beating everyone else on who can lay on the floor the longest after the smallest contact. He flops, he throws everyone under the bus, and ruins the reputation of his teammates and gets coaches fired because he never gets the blame from the LeMedia. You're rooting for a diva.

He's not saying Lebron is a bad player, obviously not. He's just stating the obvious based on true analytics and non-longevity stats: He's just not MJ. Feelings aside, there is no possible way to justify LBJ being an equal basketball player to Michael (notice I said equal, superior is definitely out of the question even before this magnificent piece of evidence came to light).

He has to keep rubbing winning in your face because he knows you and every other Bron fan is mumbling Warriors…But the Warriors. Jordan never lost in the finals 6-0. I wish I would’ve been a Bulls fan. What a ride. I paused this on winning. I can tell the rest of this video is gonna sting😂

I'll give you one thing on this -- he admits that advanced stats for some things started in 1983, while others didn't start til after 2000. So while we have a lot of MJ stats over his whole career, we only have his clutch stats for his Wizards years which were only about 41% and not the 50% he claimed, so he would definitely have to either do hand calculation or provide a lot more. Just in his Wizards years he took 22 and got 41%, and everyone who watched him knew that he was worse during the Wizards, so I would guess that this is either just an estimate or... whatever it is from highlights, but they absolutely do not have clutch stats from the 80s and 90s. That being said, you do definitely do need to go take some math or stats before you start bangin' on these statistics so much. They're real and as someone who is a researcher with a PhD minor in stats, if you want to make real comparisons you do have to balance both having a large enough sample size (i.e. having a lower limit of long enough -- like per minutes and per game but with people who played at least a certain number of games), but you also can't rely on cumulative stats and ALSO say that longevity counts as its own category. That would be doubling down, and also freals while cumulative stats are interesting, I can say fo sho with medical advancements one day we're gonna have some asshat playing for like 40 years one of these days, just getting minimal stats who is going to break every record -- not because they are that good, but because they played for longer and didn't play that hard. I mean that's like saying that if you're an amazon worker boxing up products on an assembly line, and one person does 200 per day but gets injured after that day that they aren't worth anything, but another worker just does one box per day and works for 365 days of the year is a better worker so a better investment. Nah, if you do one box a day for 365 days you're a terrible worker and terrible investment - if you work for 25 years you gonna get a lot of boxes too, but doesn't make you the best. Give the person who does 200 boxes per day some health care and get them BACK because even though they may have half as many boxes done in their one day they are a good investment. Saying the one who does 1 a day in 365 days is better because they had more in less box attempts? Come on now. You gotta start understanding statistics a bit. There is a fine line here bro. Yes someone who is super inefficient and a ballhog who throws up a buncha shots and makes points but misses a ton does suck and those players exist -- but you're ignoring analytics and stats that are right there both in per game stats and in the analytics. Player EFFICIENCY rating is right there. You can't be inefficient and win first in PER. That's actually why Kobe, despite having some great and high scoring games hasn't blown Jordan out -- he was less efficient than MJ. He was VERY good, but not as efficient. Bron is a great passer, but his peak of playing both sides of the court has been over a long time and he's only been a great scorer once and never been that efficient. And seriously only someone who doesn't understand anything at all at b-ball can argue for that FT% for a pro-player. I mean freals, I had a better FT% in HIGH SCHOOL than he does in the NBA. How does a dude who gets paid millions have such a bad FT%? There are a couple of valid questions you have -- if you did watch MJ you probably just in your head would be like -- uh yeah 41% with the wizards? Mos def about 50% with the Bulls added in. But you're right, they should put the numbers in and where they got them since those metrics aren't listed most places easily. But most of the rest of the things you complain about are a lack of understanding that the answers are right there and have been tracked since 1983 and make sense. Easy to verify.

@fitlevelup6708

2 жыл бұрын

LOL EXACTLY! Great explanation. WITH WIZARDS stats for clutch, he DESTROYS lebron lmao!! that only speaks in favor of MJ.

Scottie Pippen is the only allstar teammate Jordan has ever had in his entire career. LeBron has stacked superteams over and over.

Dude, the Mount Rushmore is just saying that Lebron is on it. Basically saying is his own personal opinion that this are HIS top players.

Why are you getting so emotional and upset over facts. He is stating facts! I get that you are a young buck and weren’t even born in the Jordan era but if you saw him play live, like I did, there would be no debate that Jordan is the GOAT.

When he was talking about the finals, it was so funny watching you walk right into it. lol. #MJgoat

This guy is so delusional it's hilarious. This is what you get when you have a guy who didn't watch Jordan play live. The (flawed) logic here is "Lebron is the best player I've ever seen, so he must be the best player ever. It's not possible that anyone else was ever better than him" To defend that logic he has to say everything that points to Jordan being the GOAT is biased. Facts are biased. Analytics, built on unbiased math, are biased. Putting things in context is "sucking Jordan off," but only because it doesn't favor Lebron. He has to keep repeating that stuff because he can't wrap his head around the idea that someone was better than Lebron. Some of the stuff was pretty comical and this guy didn't even know it. He was going on about how great Jordan's teammates were on the defensive end, but Jordan led the Bulls in defensive win shares ten times. He was just proving the point about how great Jordan's defense was. I think he also called Ron Harper a "defensive god." Harper was a good defender but he's exaggerating, pretty badly, about a player he doesn't even know. When Lebron fans hear all these people who watched both players careers say Jordan was clearly better, does common sense ever kick in? "Let's see, people who never watched Jordan play live overwhelmingly think Lebron is the GOAT, but people who watched both players careers overwhelmingly call Jordan the GOAT." Nothing ever clicks in their brain? Dude, I'm not from Chicago, North Carolina, Cleveland, Miami, LA or any other place either of these guys might be connected to. I don't know their families. I have no reason to unfairly favor either of them or to have an unfair bias against either of them. I watched Jordan's whole career. All (or at least 90%) of his nationally televised games, including regular season, playoffs and finals. I've watched even more of Lebron's games. I'm not basing anything off highlight videos or blind stat sheet comparisons. I watched both of them with my own two eyes. Jordan is the GOAT. I've watched both of their careers and this debate is laughable to me. Jordan was clearly the better basketball player. You and other young Lebron fans swear that's crazy, but you never watched Jordan play live. Doesn't that tell you something? Doesn't common sense ever kick in? Jordan is the GOAT. ***EDIT*** As far as my opinion on who the GOAT is, I'm only including guys I watched play live. I was 12 when Jordan came into the league, and already a big basketball fan. I can't say Jordan was better than Wilt, Jerry, Oscar and guys like that because I never watched those guys play.

I cried laughing 😂 You’re funny bro. Thanks for being a sport. You’re the best LBJ fan reaction I ever watched. Good job bruh. You have my respect.

The 19 of 94 stat for LeBron is staggering I knew he wasn't good late but that was eye opening

@trevortamboline279

6 ай бұрын

Yes... and buddy kept saying he "doesn't give a shit about the regular season" yet those stats were regular season AND playoffs! LOL 20%!!!

@malcolmhodnett8874

5 ай бұрын

Right lol If you are gonna give a shit about anything, wouldn’t it be the last shot to tie or win the game? Come on

@PIP-zf9yb

5 ай бұрын

@@trevortamboline279 ya it's mong boggling how bad that is

The flop at 25:12😂😂😂

You summed up Lebron perfectly when you raised the question about how can he be average on D w/ his 6 all defensive team selections. Answer: lack of drive and motivation. Maybe heart, maybe lack of mental toughness. Because he has all the ability, so what’s missing?

What did he say that was wrong? Mj had a killer instinct, was super competitive, was clutch, had great fundamentals, had an unguardable shot, was a champion, work ethic, accolades, was a good defender, had several records, and was the best offensive player of all time.