I left with my children’s support. None of my other family members were Witnesses; so that softened the blow. However, it took almost the same length of time that I studied and became a Witness, to come to a place of confidence that it wasn’t the Truth-13+ years in and 10+ years out. I discovered the EXJW folks on KZread about 2 years ago. That’s what helped to build my confidence that I made the right choice.

@augiemusky

6 ай бұрын

Interesting to hear your take on the scriptures… you read everything through watchtower glasses. Now I know why it’s so difficult talking to JWs … every major doctrine… they will use the same words, but apply different meanings to those words. Now I know why they think Christians are so dumb, they’ve been told twisted versions of reality. Of course.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

I'm so glad you were able to leave!! It's a journey....and often takes a lot of time.....healing is so worth it!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Yes! Most JWs have a distorted view of the Bible....everything is through that lens of the Watchtower@@augiemusky

I love your podcast it’s like therapy for me. This is how I’m healing. It’s hard but I’m coping and moving on with my life. I am a former elder for 5 years, ministerial servant for 3 years, regular pioneer for two years and I was once a husband to a believing wife. Gave many talks on assemblies and conventions. I lost it all. I had to leave. It’s extremely difficult to leave. Was a PIMO for two years but couldn’t do it anymore. The most heart wrenching one was losing my marriage. But I rather live an authentic life even if it cause me pain.

@munch670

6 ай бұрын

Fellow former Elder here as well how did you find out it was all a lie what was your story!?

@christinesotelo7655

6 ай бұрын

Much love to you and keep up the courage! It takes time. I lost my marriage and also my brother too. It was a real heartbreak. Until I discovered these healing podcasts, I shut it all out through the years and lived on automatic. With this help, I’ve been able to truly grieve, comment, go through the grief stages, laugh a lot more and I am healing. Hang in there. Feel your feelings one by one. The walls come tumbling down. Life is beautiful outside the Tower. ❤

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Hello my friend, so glad you're here! Elders have their own unique experience to navigate. I'm so glad you're out and be KIND to yourself....there is so much to heal from!

Dude! This was “food at the proper time!” I’m newly POMO and have been dealing with all of these feelings. Thank you so much. You ROCK!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank YOU....so glad it may help you and welcome to FREEDOM!!!

I think walking away from watchtower is easier today then it was 25 years ago when I left. No internet in the mid-90's. Back then, there was no support outlet, and I felt isolated and on my own. Plagued by guilt, confusion and second thoughts, I had no one to turn too. Now it seems, the path out the door is paved and well lit. Not so in my day.

@littleredgirl9749

6 ай бұрын

I started studying in 1994 and got baptized in 95. Being raised Episcopalian, I had no idea what was in the Bible. So when I studied with the witnesses, I thought I was really understanding the Bible and I was so grateful to them. Early on, someone handed me a book and told me I should look into this religion. Of course I was a good little hypnotized zombie for the watchtower, and I dutifully rejected the information. So now I'm 60 years old, and I'm trying to put all that behind me and enjoy life while I can. But I do think that we're here to learn something, and so maybe the decades that I spent in that org will actually have taught me something when I leave here. I don't know.

@b1crusade384

6 ай бұрын

I was used to isolation. So, it was cool for me. It was awkward though being shunned.

@christinesotelo7655

6 ай бұрын

Yes I was dsf’d and shunned in the 70’s. Horrible experience. I understand what you’re saying.

@christinesotelo7655

6 ай бұрын

@@b1crusade384yeah we got so used to isolation. But losing everyone you love because some group of men say so, was awful! ❤

@disassociated1731

6 ай бұрын

Eine Antwort in Goethe’s Sprache?:) I m relating to the difficulty to leave in the pre-internet time. I left in the mid 80s. Had been an elder for 15 years. Born-in, I admit I had a good time as a jw kid and young man. Loving parents. It was my comfort zone. My only problem, by time, was the obligation to believe and teach doctrines and stories which made no sense regarding the progress of scientific and historical knowledge. Nobody to speak to and to share my doubts with them. Waiting for a new elder to come to the congregation, I was the only one:) Schizophrenic situation. Also feeling I would lose my marriage. On the other hand, watching the internet does not help every time, the reasons why pimos leave are so different, I m not sure you find the best cure for the inevitable pain of leaving your community. My personal mental cure was leaving my town, moving to another country and culture, divorce and starting a new episode of my life, new job, new wife, children…

I am a simple man. Another Monday, another thumbs up.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you from a fellow simple man!!

Surviving, you express our thoughts & feelings so well & you consider everyone. You are SO correct. Leaving was the one best decision of my life. I had to chew off my leg & leave it in the trap, but it was worth it! Lol, I grew a new leg.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

LOL, that is a great analogy!

This podcast gets me through my Mondays! I've been PIMO for a while (although I don't go to meetings or ministry). As ridiculous as this sounds, I'm waiting for my parents to exit this earth before leaving this organization. I know! Crazy.

@christinesotelo7655

6 ай бұрын

No, not crazy. You are compassionate. ❤

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for being here!! Many, MANY people find themselves in a painful waiting game with those they love :( I'm so sorry....but don't give up!!

From a fellow former elder this is by far One of my favorite episodes. I listened to this early this morning….. this podcast it stayed with me …I don’t think I’ll ever forget it. Thank you

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank YOU for being here Mark!!

I know I was lucky enough to have a support system outside the cult. It was still a difficult journey especially when I was finding out who I really am as a person. It was still the best decision that I've ever made.

@cultytalk

6 ай бұрын

❤️ Hello friend 👋

@queen_of_flatulence

6 ай бұрын

@@cultytalk hello!

@christinesotelo7655

6 ай бұрын

Ha! You two are so cute! 😂❤

@gisella1350

6 ай бұрын

Love you, be strong.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Those that kept non JW friends tend to heal much faster, so happy for you!

Hi Stacey and thank you for this new video. You are so right ! And I only have one thing to say here : Christ and the JW corporated Governing Body, are two completely different things. Period.

@WitnessForJesus

6 ай бұрын

100% !

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Two VERY different sets of authority! They're not one and the same....at all!

Hands down the best exJW content out there right now. Cant wait till next monday.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you so much Jimmy! There are some incredible people out there pushing out content aimed at helping JWs, that means a lot!

Stacy, my brother, many, many thanks for this podcast, which I consider your best yet. Almost twenty years have passed since my own disfellowshipping, and I have not set foot in a kingdom hall since 2010, and am all the better for it. Your concluding thoughts on Romans 8:38, 39 I found to be most strengthening and a real expression of the love you have for all your listeners. I deeply appreciate your bringing those verses to our attention. I continue to be a believer both in Yahweh and the Bible, but I have found that I still feel a very strong bond with you. We can have different points of view on these matters and still treat each other with the respect, and dare I say, love we all deserve. I see you as a brother and fellow traveler, and will continue to wish you all the best in all your endeavors.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

thank you so much, what a wonderful post! Thank you for being here and I'm always so happy to find like minded people who approach things with some sense of balance. Thank you!

Found my Jw wife was seeing someone else whilst I was working away so was easy to walk away from her and this cult

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry Alan! Please be good to yourself, seek support and therapy.....you can do it!

@Alanhock75

4 ай бұрын

@@survivingparadisepodcast this was 30 years ago, since remarried,worked abroad, got remarried- she actually did me a favour

@survivingparadisepodcast

4 ай бұрын

So happy to read this!@@Alanhock75

*"I promise to be with you forever"* .... says the absentee parent playing the most elaborate game of hide-and-go-seek in the history of mankind.

@John-fi5ik

6 ай бұрын

That Promise is a GUARANTEE. Jesus is The ETERNAL ONE . But only the HOLY experience it.

@cultytalk

6 ай бұрын

SO "loving!"

@John-fi5ik

6 ай бұрын

​@@cultytalk Stacy won't like it , if you're more sarcastic than he is. 😊

@adamantiumbullet9215

6 ай бұрын

@@John-fi5ik Let me guess: you're one of the "HOLY", the rest of us are pond scum? Oy. Wherever a believer shows up, there you'll find sanctimony and veiled threats.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

;) ...... subject for another show......

Excellent , really enjoyed. That scripture even brought me comfort, the person who tossed out all bibles years ago. I only wish I was aware of this promise at my committee meeting when being disfellowshipped.. would have been so much fun, saying-- wait a minute, gotta read you guys one scripture before I get the hell outta here. How could they possibly refute that beautiful promise…Thank you, Stacy, for another genius material

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!! Oh, I've gone over so many meetings in my head.....but emotions cloud the moment. So glad you're free. And trust me: elders won't listen anyway...they are just doing a connect the dots job in there

@rebella5769

6 ай бұрын

So TRUE, SO TRUE, but a gal can dream, right,? lol.

I NEVER comment on youtube, but I just wanted to say that I discovered this podcast almost 2 weeks ago and I have finally caught up to date! I got DF'd in 2020 at 20 years old and before that, growing up, I was a DIE HARD jw. This podcast has helped me open my eyes to the REAL truth. I love your sarcastic humor, and I literally laugh out loud every time you say "8 guys in upstate NY" 🤣 As someone who lives only 30 minutes from Patterson and has met 2 of these guys in upstate NY it makes me LAUGH how I used to think these guys were the shit pls 🤣 Thank you so much for creating this podcast, I look forward to tuning in every week.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

WELCOME.....to the rest of your life!! LOVE that younger people are leaving....thanks for 'getting me'.....have to get the message out there and somehow be entertaining too ;)

Your tone and presentation alone is very therapeutic!! Thank you so very much.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you, I truly appreciate that!

It was this very thought of god never leaving me that got me through when I left the ORG.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

I'm SO happy to read that.....you were ahead of so many!

You are wonderful! I NEEDED FOR YEARS TO HEAR THIS! Thank you!!! ❤😮

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

SO glad Christine!!!! It's all right there....bask in the comfort .... you didn't deserve to be treated the way you were!

Thank you Stacy . I found this to be very helpful in easing my anxiety after leaving the org. 🙏😊

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

I'm SO glad Maria!!! There is so much anxiety and fear....it can crop up at the strangest times. Be good to yourself, you deserve it!

@mariaprenol

6 ай бұрын

@@survivingparadisepodcast Thank you. Yes lots of fear. I appreciate your channel . Take care too 🙏🤗

Thank you for this particular Pod Cast. When I was still going to the meetings, I asked an elder a question regarding JW teachings. . He did not open his Bible, instead he directed me to the Watchtower, this is where I should look for answers. This set me back thinking, "what? I didn't say anything else to him. He didn't realize it but he just pulled out another brick in the wall. I wanted and expected an answer from the Bible, a scripture at least, not just the Watchtower written by the Governing Body. Do they think we are stupid, probably, in their eyes, they are smart, we are not.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

It's one of the most stunning things a person will witness: they don't use the Bible unless it's to support their man made thinking. Most elders haven't even read the Bible. It's an 'aha' moment for so many!

@beautyRest1

6 ай бұрын

@@survivingparadisepodcastyes, they need watchtower ( not inspired) to explain gods word (inspired) . Crazy!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Its truly insane isn't it?? @@beautyRest1

@beautyRest1

6 ай бұрын

@@survivingparadisepodcast it sure is!!!

I also think a lot about the promise Jesus made to the criminal next to him. Truly I tell you today, you will be will me in paradise. I'm not sure where I am at with my beliefs, I've just been processing leaving. Thanks for another great podcast.

@christinesotelo7655

6 ай бұрын

Leave when you are ready. At least now there is help and support. Not so when I left. It’s alright. You’ll be alright. When it’s time you’ll know. ❤

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Instantaneous support ..... no letters, shunning, list of things he had to do..... powerful story! ;)

@beautyRest1

6 ай бұрын

@@christinesotelo7655I’m leaving since 4 years now. I was baptized in 1970, woke up around 2018 . I take my time, because I have family still in it. Best wishes to you!!

What I love best about your podcasts is that it's evident how much LOVE you have for Jehovah's Witnesses! ❤

@John-fi5ik

6 ай бұрын

Now that's going to push ALL of Stacy's buttons , for sure😊

@christinesotelo7655

6 ай бұрын

I don’t love them anymore. Except my brother. Even though I’m “dead” to him.

@cultytalk

6 ай бұрын

@@christinesotelo7655 I understand

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you my friend...I truly love people...and it's the only reason I turn on the microphone. :)

You are one of the best newer KZreadrs on this topic and great voice as well!!!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Awww, thank you! You're too kind!! Thank you so much for being here!

Thanks for taking the risk to be 'vulnerable' and share. It's always a pleasure to get to know you better.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you :)

I learned a new term "future faking". Regarding traits of a narcissist. They use promises to keep control over others. Watchtower being a narc org, has perfected using promises. The bible itself does same. Example is: jesus promise to return to his followers of his day, big time broken promise! Good video thanks😊

@John-fi5ik

6 ай бұрын

JESUS did return to His followers at the time of their deaths, and took them to Heaven , so that they could be with JESUS Forever . What a SAVIOR we have in JESUS. The ALPHA AND OMEGA .

@cultytalk

6 ай бұрын

💯

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you Elaine! Narcissism is so difficult to deal with, but it can be done!

This was such an important message! That verse got me through some of the darkest times in my life as well. I am told constantly I need to "come back to Jehovah" I always say, I never left him, I left the circus and the clowns. 😂 (actually I was kicked out of the circus lol) but glad I was now. As always, you have made my day with so many laughs and so much to think about. THANK YOU!! Can't wait for next week already!!!

@VG-rj8pn

6 ай бұрын

Jehovah isn't God's name. I was raised to Jehovah's witness. I pioneered I did it all. I looked for the real truth and I found it. I was changed by an angel and taken into the heavens. I got to be with God and merged into god's own. Being just like Jesus was. I can tell you that it's got nothing to do with the truth. No religion knows the truth, get the books by Marshall. Summers, a great warning is being given to the world. God is given the greatest revelation to the world evergiven. Do it learn what it's talking about. It's trying to save as many people as possible if they listen and help your children's future is at stake

@christinesotelo7655

6 ай бұрын

I always say to those wanting me to come back: “I didn’t leave you. You left me “ (disfellowshipped, shunned, lost many I loved)

@christinesotelo7655

6 ай бұрын

@@VG-rj8pnI would love to hear more please. ❤

@VG-rj8pn

6 ай бұрын

Bbbbbiiggggg! Where's the melted butter?! Lolol

@VG-rj8pn

6 ай бұрын

@christinesotelo7655 You must have this foundation; otherwise, the Great Waves will wash you away. You will feel overwhelmed. Your life will be overtaken, and you will be left destitute and subject to very dark influences in the world and even from beyond the world. Again, the difficulty of the times is the perfect opportunity for you to reconnect with your life, to build your Four Pillars, to reestablish your integrity, to take determined action and to learn to be courageous and objective. It is not about perception here, whether you are loving or fearful. It is really about whether you are wise or unwise, whether you are responsible or irresponsible. Do not hold yourself apart and think it is all about perception. The Great Waves are far more powerful than you are. You will not alter them with your affirmations or your declarations. But you can learn to mitigate them, to adapt to them, to use them to your advantage and to use them to be of assistance to others. The human need around you will be immense-greater than any world war it will be. And you will have to be prepared to take care of people, people you do not even know perhaps, and to assist others in ways that will be new for you and unexpected. There will be great shortages of food and in some places great shortages of water. Your energy resources will become precious, difficult and expensive to gain access to. There will be political and economic instability, and there will be much civil unrest in many places in the world. This is the world you have come to serve, and the more you are connected to Knowledge within yourself, the more you will gain this recognition, which will quiet your fears and your anxiety and affirm your strength and your great Source and all of the meaningful relationships that are here to serve and to assist you.

Just finished up. What a beautiful podcast this one was. I hope that it gives people coming out of cults some real comfort. Thank you!

@John-fi5ik

6 ай бұрын

Yes Stacy does give wonderful talks indeed. Talks of joy and happiness and peace and hope and faith and love. ALL the Good Stuff ! Wouldn't you Agree? 😊 There's NO DOUBT in Stacy's mind About what is really important .

@christinesotelo7655

6 ай бұрын

@@John-fi5ikthis is so true. I still have to shed the idea that I HAVE to come up with answers and all that. Because I’m still programmed to fight and then being Dsf’d and shunned and the loss of everyone, I fight for survival and to have the Right to Speak at all, as I had been nothing but a silent, submissive mother in the Org. I fight like a cornered cat for my RIGHTS then I’m exhausted and need to sleep. It’s been a long, tough recovery. Years. Because there was no support way back when. I’m still working on balance and all the different emotions that come up. I’m still terrible at relationships too because in my mind, I’m supposed to be “evenly yoked” but with what? Not WT men! Yuk! Not church goers as I panic! Everyone else is addicted to something...sometimes I never think I’ll be loved, whatever love is. I’m a sole femm. It’s ok. I don’t know why I’m blubbering. 😢

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you my friend, means a lot!

Awwww yeeaaahhh my guy Stacy let's do this 🎉

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!!

Woweee Stacey! That was a home run!!! Awesome! The biggest mistake that that efging corporation, called the watchtower Bible & Tract Society ever made was teaching the children (who the parents were to beat into that corporation's slave-staffing Department, *to read* and find creative ways to stay alive with no safety from anyone except the GOD that promised He would never leave them. Wonderful theme development, Brother Stacey Bowman! I give you a "G" (you know that means good, in the il' Theocratic Ministry School).

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Hahaha, I'll take the G Penny.....I need to work on gestures ;)

Stacy, you did it AGAIN!!!! Amazing podcast. Love it!!!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

You're too kind, thank you!

This was amazing! If any of my JW family ever start to doubt I will be sending them straight to your podcast. You don't miss a beat and you have thought of things no one else has even contemplated. I don't know if I still believe in God, but thank you for giving us hope that God isn't as cruel as he was when I was a JW. ❤ Love from Australia 🇦🇺

I now look forward to Mondays…a new episode of Surviving Paradise with Stacy! Loved your topic today, so much so I will listen to it again later in the week! You have a way of expressing the pain we’ve all gone through in leaving the JW organization…not God!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Virginia!!

Thank you Stacy. This is very very close to my heart. I strongly believe that Exjw should not seek to pull the rug out from under JW. ****offer them hope and comfort!**** My favourite promise is here 1 John 5: 11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life” That you may KNOW you HAVE eternal life ❤️❤️❤️ God is faithful in his promises ❤❤❤

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

I was always a big fan of John's books...... but the Book of James is my favorite. I'm so glad you found comfort!

Thank you for another EXCELLENT video! I'm sure that many folks will find it very COMFORTING! I left the org 25 years ago, and I still find myself with old conditioning & beliefs that I need to examine, defuse, and throw off. I found that the Conversations With God books by Neale Donald Walsch were a big help in my having a much more expanded and appealing view of God. I also find the numerous KZread interviews re: near death experiences (NDE) to be very compelling. They offer a peek at a much more loving Universe and a loving God. Even while I was an uber-devout JW, I found that the religion did not support me in believing that God loved me, or that I was good enough. And I dearly wanted to know that God loved me and approved of me! Nowadays, I view Jehovah as being an ancient tribal god of the Isrealites... his warring, jealous nature suited the more brutal thinking of the time. Years later, Jesus came, with truths & principles to share that were more loving and freeing. I still care about pleasing God. I just don't think that God is Jehovah. I believe that God is much more than that - he's a loving, gigantic, Creative Source - and that he has given us the gift of free choice, so that we can also be creative, and create our best lives. I am so grateful to have my freedom to do that. 🙂 Thanks for all of your efforts in making your videos - they are so helpful and much appreciated!!

@christinesotelo7655

6 ай бұрын

I agree with you! It is so good to be able to grow in our concepts of God rather than having to stay in a box. I too, love the NDEs. My mom had had an NDE, I also many years later, and am thoroughly comforted. I had to be blood transfused a long time ago and was so grateful I could save my life which is precious, because it was no longer dictated to me by men that I would be destroyed by “Jehovah” if I chose to live. ❤

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you Suzie...fantastic journey! I enjoy reading other people's viewpoints. Wow, 25 years ago....I appreciate you having any interest at this point :) There are so many things to consider!

Amazing episode. Thank you so much for all your effort.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much Steven!

👋Thanks, Stacey.🥰👍

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank YOU!

Such a really, really great episode. You’re a great human Stacey. Love you man 👊

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

YOu're too kind, thank you friend!

Thank you so much. Yes, soooooo many many promises that will never come true, at least not in my lifetime. Right now I can’t believe in god. I associate Jehovah with the cult. If he exists why was I in it for 50 years and can’t get out!

Stacy, I just heard a gem from Stephen Lett regarding beards. I hope you cover that one, it's a doozy! Lett talks around 19 minutes, but there is so much low hanging fruit, it's priceless!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

It's a DOOZY...LOL, will be covering in the near future for sure!!

It’s so true how when you leave the people still in it say you have left Jehovah! This proves them wrong and shows the brainwashing of the organization and the power of fear. I don’t believe in any of it anymore, I’m with you Stacy. In fact anything regarding religion or god or prayer makes me uncomfortable now. I’m traumatized.

@christinesotelo7655

6 ай бұрын

Yes. I still can’t attend any church with groups of dressed-up people crowding me. I panic and run for the exit door. After all these years!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry for all you've been through :( Be kind to yourself and give yourself time. Your mind will change many times....but it's most definitely traumatizing :(

@Hhiller

6 ай бұрын

@@christinesotelo7655 me too!! I went to a Xmas church service with my in laws last year and I almost threw up!! I can’t do it anymore

@Hhiller

6 ай бұрын

@@survivingparadisepodcast Sandy- my mom, Cindy, is a childhood friend of someone you know well I hear- Jennifer Wenike She told me Jen told her about your podcasts and she told me and now I’m hooked. Thank for this! It really is healing. Although hard to process it is necessary to move on.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

A DEAR friend I just spoke to yesterday....I love it!@@Hhiller

*Merry Christmas Stace & to your family, also the ExJdub community and supporters.* ❄️🎄

I’m speechless

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

I hope in a good way!

@Tickles99788

6 ай бұрын

Yes

I was a baptised witness who left over 20 years ago, all my family were and most still are in it, mum, dad, aunts, uncles, cousins etc and relations were really affected by leaving with my parents only keeping a "minimal" relationship, now I'm mid 40's with 3 young kids really needing support that's not there, to make it worse my nana who recently passed away at 98 pioneered most of her life and I dread to think how much she left in her will to these men and this sect, not only did this organisation take away the physical, mental and emotional support from my life they also likely took away possible financial support that I could really have done with, despite the difficulties it's the best decision I ever made and happier for it, I hope I'm around long enough to witness the downfall of this dangerous cult and hopefully be a part of the downfall, I will have a party the day it does

@survivingparadisepodcast

5 ай бұрын

Big hugs to you my friend! That is terrible....and not uncommon with this cult. They steal families...and steal FROM families....I'm so sorry you're enduring this!

Great upload again. I wonder, how much of watchtowers truth, ended up not being true. 🤔

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! OH SO MUCH is not true.....LONG list

Stacey, as someone who is now a believing Christian, the fact that you, an agnostic, even did this episode is touching. It might even mean more because of that fact. The faith I have now is nothing compared to the fear I had growing up a Witness. (IE: God's Grace vs "are you doing enough to survive Armageddon??') I've never really thought about that scripture in Romans before...that hit. Thank you brother, and however you personally want to take this - bless you.

Hi Stacy Thank you for reminding us of that passage in Rom 8:38,39. It’s such a comfort in these uncertain times.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

You're so welcome Cheryle!!!! It was a big source of comfort for me as well!

Great talk Stacy and a great way to let our newly exited friends down easy, as for myself just call me the Agnostic Avenger 😉 we should start a superhero team! Funny question for you since you started it, the Michael McDonald army versus the Kenny Rogers army who Wins!?!?😊

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

LOL, I love it...let's start our own universe!!

You are my favorite ExJW platform. I told you in a comment months ago that this is what I was going to be doing. I did it. I represented all 6 of my siblings. I was so scared. I listen to your podcasts as I exercise and clean the house. Your positive attitude is definitely an inspiration to me. The secret family hidden in the organization has broke its silence. I'd love to have others educate the public in the comments. I, like you, did this for the children. Keep up the good work. kzread.info/dash/bejne/kXaNp9SKXabVopc.htmlfeature=shared

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

WOW, thank you so much!! GREAT JOB....I'm bookmarking to watch tonight!!!

“…keeping David Splaine’s throne warm until he gets there.” That was a good one. Does Tony Morris still have a throne waiting for him, or did he get demoted to having the earthly hope?

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

So many questions....right? :)

The JW cult tells you they are deepening your relationship with God but the paradox is that they can be responsible for creating a disbelief in God. Since when you grow up and your critical thinking comes into effect you realise that what you are being taught is a load of nonsense.

@John-fi5ik

6 ай бұрын

It's true that most universities and their professors teach that .

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

So VERY true.....they want to get children, then they trap them inside their own head

Love the last part,Roman's 8:38-39. Edged in my mind! I to do not believe the Bible is the"WORD" of God but out of the writers text thank goodness their is an out clause! Again,Stacy Blessings on you from the Universe!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

YES! Thank you Virginia...the guarantee is in the Bible....if you believe the Bible.....you have NOTHING to worry about!

I applaud your restraint, Stacey 😊 Great podcast!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

It took a lot ;)

Great podcast Stacey,, as usual, and yes there is a price to leaving that cult, in many times it involves your family, I know of this lady who was disfellowedshipped and couldn't go to her son's wedding at the kingdom hall. She was only allowed to see the decorations and when the guests arrived she had to leave,,, just broked her, again great podcast and till next episode.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

I'm so sorry!! Horrible....and even more horrible that her son allowed it to happen :(

I can't find an application for me in this one, but it was a nice thing to do.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Understand! It was a bit of a different 'share' this week.....there are those that may benefit from this promise ;)

Ahhh! Just wanna add that Russell is actually paving the road for Splain and buddies minus Tony Mo now. In heaven the focus is a construction company and here on earth is real state

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

LOL, yep.....real estate empire.....from heaven LOL

@smy74

6 ай бұрын

Yet Jesus had no where to lay his head down.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

exactly@@smy74

Romans 8: 38, 39: It truly does epitomize the fundamental truth so many ex-JW sites have been stressing. ANYONE who seeks God's Spirit, and follows his Word, is acceptable to Him and will be preserved. Acts 10: 34, 35. And also Habakkuk 2: 4:,.."the righteous one will live (not by his membership in a nation or organization!) by reason of his faithfulness." Amen!

@survivingparadisepodcast

5 ай бұрын

Yes, they miss many of the basics!

_“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”_ ― Isaac Asimov Regarding god's psychopathic, narcissistic, childishly histrionic, unhinged behavior as documented in the Old Testament, and god's obvious apathy now (if he actually existed), _"If there is a god, he will have to beg for my forgiveness."_ - a phrase carved on a concentration camp wall during WW II by a Jewish prisoner St. Teresa of Avila once told god, _"If this is the way you treat your friends, no wonder you have so few."_

@John-fi5ik

6 ай бұрын

GOD only looks for the FEW . The ones who love Him Thru all of life's trials & tribulations But what a PRIZE it is - To be in fellowship with JESUS !

@cultytalk

6 ай бұрын

P O W E R F U L !!! Thank you!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

HUGE conversation to be had!

@yenbbc8840

6 ай бұрын

this is difficult to comprehend through a mind clouded by Macallan's

Amazing video

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!!!

My recommendation is to read Romans chapter 5 and read it often. Understand it is indeed finished! and you have been saved by Jesus Christ even if you don’t want to be saved it’s out of your hands Gods sovereign will gets done period. Your recommended verse is perfect

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Romans is a good book for everyone to read

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Thank you for this wonderful message!

Absolutely brilliant, thankyou

David Splane's Throne ??? hahahahaha Stacy has a big imagination Leftover from watchtower days.

@adamantiumbullet9215

6 ай бұрын

You've never heard of sarcasm?

@John-fi5ik

6 ай бұрын

​@@adamantiumbullet9215 At one time , I'm sure Stacy actually thought this was true !

@cultytalk

6 ай бұрын

Do u even know who David Splane is!? (You claim to not be a JW!)

@adamantiumbullet9215

6 ай бұрын

@@John-fi5ik We'll add this baseless speculation of yours about Stacy to the large pile of other fictional speculative tripe you've served up in the comments section.

@adamantiumbullet9215

6 ай бұрын

@@John-fi5ik Please don't strain the last two functioning brain cells you have trying, and failing, to be funny....

Hello stacy ive got some of your videos to catch up on :) hope you are having a good week xx

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

hi Caroline, thank you for listening!!

Thanks Stacey, as of 4:48pm all three in my family disassociated, hope you don't mind if I used Romans 8:38-39, got from your podcast. Don't even care about beard reinstatement, hahaha but I like mine and so does my son

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

CONGRATULATIONS!!! I'm always so happy to read such stories!!! Romans 8 is a GREAT source of comfort for many! But as another bearded man.....I love it!!!

Hey Stacy! Here's wishing you a happy Beardmas! Yes, you heard me right, Jehovah just told his governing body that beards are ok now, we should not criticize anyone nor hold back privileges because a bro has a beard. You can't make this shit up!!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

BEST news of the day my friend!!!!! But now how do we show our mentally diseases apostasy? LOL

@THEC.O.VISIT.

6 ай бұрын

@@survivingparadisepodcast 🤣

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

😎@@THEC.O.VISIT.

Awesome❤

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

thank you!!

Brilliant!

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!

I found Romans 8:38 to be a trick, a no-money-back non-guarantee: there *is* something that can separate us from God: reading the Bible.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

a valid observation and even better conversation :)

@John-fi5ik

6 ай бұрын

The Bible doesn't separate you from GOD . Only You can do that.

I grew up a witness, always questioned everything. And was taught to Just believe because I do…. I’m 53 now and no longer go. My mom my sister… most of my family are witnesses. It’s really hard. I stopped going to meetings at age 37 and didn’t raise my children in the religion and am so glad. My family was pretty much in my life but was always looked down on. I appreciate your words soooo much it’s like you are in my mind on the things I always thought but could never articulate. My mom is so indoctrinated she won’t listen to me. She was disfellowshipped several years ago for being angry at the elders…. Right I know……. But was reinstated. She had to go back. It’s mentally really hard but I listen to you and I appreciate your words and explaining things so much. Are you single?? Just kidding… not but are you? 😊 Your podcast had REALLY helped me… thank you.

@survivingparadisepodcast

Ай бұрын

You've been through so much Jade! I'm glad you still have contact with your family, even if it is strained.....that is the hardest of all things for so many to endure. I'm very happy that this crazy show helps you in any way. No, not single....I started settling down a few years ago after wandering the earth....but flattered! ;)

The greatest book on earth is the Course in miracles. And the Marshall Vian Summers books The greatest Revelation God has ever given to mankind

@Eric_01

6 ай бұрын

All you've done is trade literary works by dudes.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

Not familiar, but thanks for the recommendation!

@VG-rj8pn

6 ай бұрын

@survivingparadisepodcast I've had Jesus appear in my home on multiple occasions. Get the real truth and you'll never think of JW s again

@VG-rj8pn

6 ай бұрын

@survivingparadisepodcast if you want to read Jesus's word for word book you can get it for free online. But don't forget the Marshall Vian Summers books. The future of mankind's civilization depends on enough people learning from them

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

WOW, I think we would all be interested in Jesus appearance. What does he look like? Did he condemn JWs? When is he actually returning and establishing a perfect kingdom? Is he upset by the violence in the middle east? So many questions.....@@VG-rj8pn

Reading the New Testament without Watchtower glasses is what caused me to see the Watchtower is not ‘the truth’ They have replaced Christ with themselves. It was a shocking truth. Jesus says ‘ I am the way, the Truth and life, no one comes to the Father but by me”. John 14:6. I had to repent for following the gov body instead of Jesus.

🤣🤣🤣 Kenny Rogers and Michael McDonald!!!

In time you would convince me to be a Christian. O wait I'm a history major and I've learned where bible nonsense came from. 😅

@John-fi5ik

6 ай бұрын

Stacy gives history lessons too. Maybe you can share notes ! 😊

@WitnessForJesus

6 ай бұрын

Biblical Theology student here including history and nothing about the origins of bible books says that they are false.

@jordancannady9242

6 ай бұрын

@@WitnessForJesus I would love to sit down and have a conversation with you. Always love to talk to my fellow history buffs even if we don't always agree.

@John-fi5ik

6 ай бұрын

@@jordancannady9242 What school of higher learning is teaching you right now ? Could it be Bart Ehrman there In North Carolina ??? 🙄

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

LOL, I love history!!!

I wish I could give you 100👍

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But do you believe that he will abandon you, I struggle with that. My mother, my family, my congregation all told me that YHWH would abandon me if I step out of line. I have felt alone and abandoned so many time through out my 50 yr life.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

NO! He will NOT abandon you if you're a Christian. Guarantee is in that verse.....read it.....it's a full promise my friend!

Can Beautiful Monster 👾 Bring U Back Ur Clever 💂 is Up We will See 🎉😂❤ If Jehovah Fulfills PromiseIt😅🤣😛🥰

Leaving Jehovah paradise lost.

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

We are in year 110 of waiting.....

Seeing how this promise has no way to confirm it just like the rest of the Bible, you can apply it any way you like just like any other scripture. No Way to prove it’s true, no way to prove it’s false. You can believe anything with faith, it is therefore meaningless. And a meaningless promise. It can perhaps be a crutch to help lead you out of the cult. But hopefully you will kick it away with all the rest of the empty promises when your ready

You can now have a beard. 😂😂😂😂

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

YEP!!! LOL

Your next video is gonna be especially “hairy”, having all types of “grown out” topics 😂😂😂 Referencing the GB’s latest new light: hey, you can have beards now. Give me a damn break

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

It's just SO MUCH FUN!!!!

8 dogmatic god men

@survivingparadisepodcast

6 ай бұрын

they certainly think so ;)

@yenbbc8840

6 ай бұрын

who let the dogs out. who who who who? arf!