These protests were going on THE DAY AFTER the October 7th massacre, without Israel even responding yet. That should tell you everything you need to know about whether or not these people have an ounce of respect or a moral compass

@hattmancock6396

8 ай бұрын

They aren't protestors, Palestine is just a distraction, this is anit-Jewish and anti-western. They are taking the opportunity to express their hatred.

@phoebs50

8 ай бұрын

Where's your moral compass?

@noam1836

8 ай бұрын

@@phoebs50 Alive and well, thank you! I don't celebrate the brutal massacre of innocent people!

@phoebs50

8 ай бұрын

Well then had you not thought the protests are ongoing since the occupation regardless of there being strikes or not

@noam1836

8 ай бұрын

@@phoebs50 1. Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005! There is no occupation! 2. WHY just a day after the massacre, in celebration of the massacres? All of the voices crying out over non-existent war crimes were the same ones screaming "glory to our martyrs" with glee & pride! 3. Let's talk about "occupation ". Where do you live and has your family lived there since the beginning of time? If so, unlikely, but congratulations! I wonder if you go to protests against immigration in your country, you know, condemning these terrible colonizers from living on land that supposedly doesn't belong to them?

If they won’t respect our very profound traditions I don’t see why we should accept their volatile ignorance.

@tinaedginton

8 ай бұрын

Bombing hospitals and children is part of our tradition? Or is denouncing the fascism that our grandparents died fighting against? Are you even British?

@alecpritchard

8 ай бұрын

@@tinaedginton are you sure you're replying to the right comment?

@alecpritchard

8 ай бұрын

@@tinaedginton how does the original comment either: 1 - State that "Bombing hospitals and children is part of our tradition", or 2 - denounce "the fascism that our grandparents died fighting against" ???

@run2cat4run

8 ай бұрын

Palestine help UK out during WW1

@albertobenevenuto77

8 ай бұрын

​​@@tinaedgintonAs far the hospitals and schools are being used to attack it is considered as a militar families, therefore can be put to asas. It is on Geneve Convention. Is it clear to u?

We have asked for this, thanks to all those refugees welcome, and our cowardly politicians this is down to you hope you are pleased with yourselves 😢

@tinaedginton

8 ай бұрын

You missed the part about our politicians destroying nations like Iraq Afghanistan Syria Palestine creating a world wide migration crisis.

@curioushuman4896

8 ай бұрын

Honestly leave you guys to it open your eyes the vast majority of protestors are white but you like the bigoted media are blinkered media is the blinker in part bigotry (Zionism ) is the rest

@johnbicknell4748

8 ай бұрын

I never asked for this, The goons waving placards reading 'no borders' did.

@blackpound2297

8 ай бұрын

@@johnbicknell4748 when did Britain start respecting borders?

@johnbicknell4748

8 ай бұрын

@@blackpound2297 +I'm not Britain.

I think we will find out that the British public are going to end up dealing with this. Should be interesting. And when people complain, remember that your government did nothing.

@blackpound2297

8 ай бұрын

It won’t be the British public, it will be right wing goons doing something potentially.

@petermaclellan9977

8 ай бұрын

Do you really think so? the british public spend there time on keyboards or protesting. And I think the rest of the country is bored with London, this multi cultural city which has lost its way in British society

@jayteedeene5981

8 ай бұрын

@@petermaclellan9977 Not just London is it. What starts in London spreads.

@finnogorman5683

8 ай бұрын

The British public voted for this. They are to blame AS WELL AS the politicians

@jayteedeene5981

8 ай бұрын

@@finnogorman5683 What Government or party has promised to halt immigration?

Let them march - let the English working class see the enemy and let the middle class see their friends.

They never demonstrated against Muslims being slaughtered in Syria.

@tinaedginton

8 ай бұрын

UK funded ISIS affiliated groups to overthrow a the leader of Syria, these same groups funded by uk went on to commit atrocities on Syrian Christians. Now the uk is funding a Jewish apartheid fundamentalist regime that is also massacring Christians and destroying holy Christian sites that date back 1400 years. Christian’s in this country are silent about this WHY?

@gerardk51

8 ай бұрын

Muslims being slaughtered by whom? By other muslims.

@artemisjuno

8 ай бұрын

Exactly. But it didn't involve Jews did it ? Only when Jews are in conflict do the Islamists march with their placards and flags.

@jennyfairbairn2525

8 ай бұрын

Or what China is doing to the Qygars (not sure of the spelling, pronounced Weegars)

@colby25

8 ай бұрын

Or the muslim chechnyans in grozny when putin flattened it or like you say in aleppo when putin flattened it killing thousands of muslims there as well.

If Sunak is so Gravely Concerned , put a stop to it then.

@truckerfromreno

8 ай бұрын

Another foreigner. Worked it out yet?

@ph8077

8 ай бұрын

Just taking a leaf out of Braverman's book; he's realised that he gets good publicity aimed squarely the traditional Tory voter when expressing the views held by the majority...unfortunately, that's as far as he goes: talking tough but doing F all yet again. These incompetent, corrupt & above all, spineless Conservatives deserve to lose the next election but what comes next will be uber-woke!

@user-rp4cw9jn3k

8 ай бұрын

@@truckerfromreno Oh Yes a long time ago ,I just wondered if anyone else has.

the law says their faces should not be covered, but the police are doing nothing, so if somebody did commit a serious crime no one can recognize them

@stormbringerseven8288

8 ай бұрын

No face coverings? What about the convids? What a farce.

@adambarrett5696

8 ай бұрын

Unless it paper for covid lol

@johnrice4191

8 ай бұрын

The old bill are telling people who are white to uncover their face....

@MAZ440

8 ай бұрын

It's really not a COVID mask, it's hard to spot them. Take for example what happened in the USA where a pro-Palestinian protester killed a Jew and disappeared and now they are looking for him.@@adambarrett5696

@user-fp2wy8rk8e

8 ай бұрын

And not so long ago all the sheeple made it so thise that stood upto all the bull got fined for not wearing a mask

My father two uncles, one aunt died for this country with let these people in, and this is how they repay us

@randomhuman2595

8 ай бұрын

There were millions of Indian Muslims who fought the British empire in WW2

@jayteedeene5981

8 ай бұрын

@@randomhuman2595 And most of the Arab world that didn’t.

@darthvacation9299

8 ай бұрын

​@@randomhuman2595and they are all being disrespected too; youre ok with that?

@randomhuman2595

8 ай бұрын

@@darthvacation9299 Probably not, but it is their right for freedom of speech

@darthvacation9299

8 ай бұрын

@@randomhuman2595 sorry but marching on and defacing/ vandalising the cenotaph is NOT freedom of speech, and neither is beating the s*** out of an elderly poppy seller, which happened too. Makes me sick.

It is very obvious that there are two Britain's living in the UK. The majority who are quite happy to live in the traditional way of tolerance and understanding, and the new philosophy of having only one opinion which is rigidly enforced by threats and ruination of dissenters lives. This will end in a violent way unfortunately.

for the islams to march on armistice day is beyond disrespectful it's hateful

@Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak

8 ай бұрын

It's a hate march for sure

@booth2710

8 ай бұрын

It's a show of strength and a deliberate demonstration of who has the upper hand

@MJB0110

8 ай бұрын

It’s NOT just Moslems that are marching. There are Jews, Christians and those of no religion & of every colour and creed. If you haven’t noticed there’s a awful genocide taking place and ethnic cleaning and people wish to protest that 75% of the UK population are demanding a ceasefire now and being ignored by their government.

@CriticalThinker-Lad

8 ай бұрын

lets not be dumb here what benefit does the upper-class have to gain by desecrating the British man ? cheap labour and mass migration . what do left wing Politian's have to gain ? life long voters. our generosity for generations has been in vain and for nothing and were being held ransom and are being squeezed dry by a system complicit in the destruction of our nation the labour party should be here representing working class people it doesn't mean woke or liberal and labour Politian's look ridiculous

@vimp6260

8 ай бұрын

Islams😅😅

What is the point when the veteran's minister has told veterans not to turn up at the Cenotaph and keep a low profile? This is outrageous for how this government and Labour treat the veterans and families of fallen servicemen and women. Normally people go down for the weekend to meet up with friends at organized functions and hotels where they are staying. there is a lot going on, but now they are not welcome. As the protesters are more important. Well, I do hope some people recognize these people at the protest and if they work with them challenge them for not allowing families to meet and remember falling service people. Any company that employs these people needs to have a real hard look at themselves and say do I want to be associated with these people in my businesses. Shame on them and the government, Labour. Putting Muslims before the military and veterans. This will be hard when the election comes next year.

Get it straight they are anti Israel not pro Palestine! It's a very important distinction.

@Deborahstormfoster

8 ай бұрын

Israel is a sovereign state. You are saying it should be illegal to disagree with a sovereign state. I bet your stance is wholly inconsistent when it comes to other sovereign states.

@justwrongright4977

8 ай бұрын

@@Deborahstormfoster I said anti Israel, as in destroyed, wiped out, ethnically cleansed......... and you know nothing of my stance either way, I'm just repeating what is said at the anti Isreal rallies.

@Deborahstormfoster

8 ай бұрын

You give your stance away when you call it an "anti Israel" rally.@@justwrongright4977

@paulrichards6894

8 ай бұрын

@@justwrongright4977 People who are anti-semitic now feel safe to crawl out of their rocks.........i agree this has sod all to do with palestine...............muslims have been killed in many higher numbers in different countries and it barely makes the news.....because its not by israel

@Knightley79

8 ай бұрын

Yep absolutely right. Spot on.

A march is not just speech.

Let’s see how many reasonable people there are!

Nice to see Peter didn't run away crying from this interview

Marches have been banned before. Ban this one.

There's a Hamas leader living in the UK, how incredible is that? The anti terrorist branch should immediately arrest him and hand him over to the Israeli authorities! Get tough ffs

@jennyfairbairn2525

8 ай бұрын

Douglas Murray commented on this just recently on Trigger Nometry. Ex-Hamas leader with British citizenship apparently.

@jayteedeene5981

8 ай бұрын

@@jennyfairbairn2525 Let’s not forget his Council house (that he bought, why was he given one in the first place if he could afford to buy it) in an area highly Jewish populated area.

If it goes tits up he needs sacking losing his pension and put in prison! What a coward he is sucking up to his master Khan!

This person say the first thing Israel should should have done is to reinforce the defenses, doesn’t he know that those terrorist came down via skydiving? These were men who wanted to kill and be killed. It doesn’t matter if they lose their lives but how many they could take.

Rowleys only job is to uphold the law not to placate or kowtow to ethnic criminal minorities, if he has to arrest them all do so. if he cannot cope call in the military.

So you think telling a bloodthirsty psychotic that he shouldn't have bad manners will make it better?

@ai_com

8 ай бұрын

The people marching for a ceasefire where 10000 have died are bloodthirsty?

Suella Braverman might not be always right about all homeless people but shes right about something that is more threatening to Britain, the protest marches, and respect to homeless, particularly veterans. And lots of us still respect Boris more than many other politicians from all parties. Please consider not trying to be popular. Just be real and honest and truthful and listen to the majority British public. Our taxes pay. We are in charge at the end of the day just like in the second world war. We can and will do the same again morally. Legally.

@bluntlaser

8 ай бұрын

Clueless

@weteachislam

8 ай бұрын

yes we are in charge . our taxes buy weapons and have loads of homeless. perfect place

@OoO-rf2gt

8 ай бұрын

​@@bluntlaserindeed you are.

@bluntlaser

8 ай бұрын

@@OoO-rf2gt Tory says what?

@OoO-rf2gt

8 ай бұрын

@@bluntlaser leftist hears voices. 0 people shocked.

Why every week in London? What about folks in London being inconvenienced every week.

This is disgusting to allow these people to March on this day

Please talk about the real issue!, ISLAM!

@Roatanlova68fmp71lliiiak

8 ай бұрын

Yep, spreading their evil again

@mistymac9345

8 ай бұрын

The elephant in the room

Point: Garza chopped off the hand that fed them, why? They believed it was time and Allha would give them victory. Now they ask those they have murdered for help. No normal person is interested in their calls for help.

@Deborahstormfoster

8 ай бұрын

No would accuse you of being a normal or decent human being.

@CriticalThinker-Lad

8 ай бұрын

maybe Allah should fund Palestine. and we can keep our money

@oldmanandguitar

8 ай бұрын

@@Deborahstormfoster Do you know, Palestine belonged to the Jews for 500 years before Islam founded, before there was a single Muslim. No one would accuse you of knowing anything about anything

@gregjones8412

8 ай бұрын

If you are going to bother denigrating a people whose land has been stolen from them and subsequently shafted by the unlawful occupier, at least have the decency to spell GAZA properly! I would seriously call your version of what a 'normal person' is into question.

@MJB0110

8 ай бұрын

@@oldmanandguitar & before them it was the Hittites and Canaanites!

WE WILL MARCH FOR OUR VETERANS WE WILL MARCH IN OUR OWN COUNTRY AND WE WILL MARCH WHERE EVER WE WANT TO THIS IS THE UK 🇬🇧

Doesn’t any of these people appreciate what we the British have actually done for them personally 🤔 haven’t we given them their freedom and a new life here in the U.K. ?

@rhonda6791

8 ай бұрын

Do you see inhumanity in Gaza. He who remains silence is complicit.

@earlcollins9310

8 ай бұрын

@@rhonda6791 what has that question got to do with mine ? Inhumanity to others is taking place all over the world ,, not just in Gaza !! our corrupt governments and biased police and criminal justice systems are all controlled by the establishment , it’s the establishment who are facilitating this mayhem 😡

@DavidisApocalypse

8 ай бұрын

Islam is out to conquer they don't care.

@yington

8 ай бұрын

@@rhonda6791 Are you complicit in all the other inhuman crimes around the world that are committed that you haven’t spoken on?

@rhonda6791

8 ай бұрын

@@yington I speak out against all inhumanity.

Good luck trying to ban it. They will take no notice

It is significant that Former Service People have been singalled out and requested to stay away, this can only be that in the Event that something kicks off, both the Media and the Police will label our Heroes as Right Wing and lay all blame on them...

@AliDixon95

8 ай бұрын

Hilarious that you see right-wing as an insult

@Stevo73660

8 ай бұрын

Rightwing is a badge of honour in fact far right is probably the only way out as they would return all anti-British with no question. The so called far right were never bad like these pro Palestine people they warned against mass immigration and I can only guess that the Government are thinking that if British people make real enemies of these people we will end up with our own people being targeted left right and centre which is probably true and we know they have no qualms about hurting women and children. The obvious reason for not importing the enemy in the first place but then T. Blair and associates have blood on their hands already.

@goodyeoman4534

8 ай бұрын

More like they've created a monster and have no clue how to deal with it, hence their submissive attitude to every circumstance where these angry newcomers make trouble.

Peter smiling, this is a rare treat !

Thats me done with Hitchens now

@DieFlabbergast

8 ай бұрын

I think he'll just about manage to bear your loss. Bye.

Anyone who knows where the met police chief lives has a duty to post his address online so he may be educated about what it means to be British.

@tinaedginton

8 ай бұрын

What does it mean to be British then? Enlighten us please….

@onlyme8117

8 ай бұрын

He has moved since the Benny hill show finished. Too many head slaps. Probably resides in one of the many mosques now.

@Larindarr

8 ай бұрын

@@tinaedginton It's a basic non complicated concept and fact. if you cannot comprehend that and are confused about that you should not insert yourself in the conversation.

@johnrice4191

8 ай бұрын

Apparently he lives in never never land.....

@johnrice4191

8 ай бұрын

​@@tinaedginton white and your history should go back at least 1000 years....

The march reneges on the moral reality and tradition of our society, it should be acted upon appropriately. The government should request that the organizers forgo November 11. If they do not, then it is further conformation that these people are not of this _polis_ - by their own admission. Following the popularity of anticolonialism in the 60s, the Left have transitioned to the Palestinian side. The Palestinian plight was the subject onto which the Left emanated the postcolonial struggle.

We need the protests banned on Remembrance Day here in Canada too. I have a bad feeling it'll be an absolute zoo when we're supposed to be honouring our veterans and fallen soldiers.

@randomhuman2595

8 ай бұрын

So much for freedom of speech

@jasonbowser1261

8 ай бұрын

There's a difference between freedom of speech and screaming and yelling over the rest of us just trying to honour our veterans. They've been gathering and protesting in all our major cities for days now. We're entitled to have one day where we can honour Remembrance Day undisturbed by an angry mob that's living under the same rights so many of our soldiers fought and died for.

@randomhuman2595

8 ай бұрын

@jasonbowser1261 Even of they are offensive and disrespectful, it's still their legal right.

@jennyfairbairn2525

8 ай бұрын

Did you listen to anything Peter Hitchens just said? Legal rights are different from moral responsibilties. And if legal rights are exercised in the extreme, this fanaticism can lead to them being regulated and even lost. When dealing with overwhelming numbers of protesters the police and average citizens going about their business depend on the innate decency of the vast numbers of protesters. That decency can best be expressed by restraint on ONE day that is culturally important to many people. Then, by all means, return to your peaceful protests. @@randomhuman2595

@petermaclellan9977

8 ай бұрын

@@randomhuman2595 Isnt such a thing, BS term for people in power!

This weekend is ours, not the supporters of a brutal regime who not only commited atrocities but filmed it. It should be banned but unfortunately as usual we show weakness. If it goes wrong we need to know who is responsible for having no backbone. The country will never be the same again after the scenes we have seen, and the majority of people in the country will not be tolerant anymore.

@truckerfromreno

8 ай бұрын

Let them march, get the police to stand aside, and the natives can bring back law, order and western civilisation to the streets of London.

@mrinalkantisarkar9550

8 ай бұрын

They don't think that there is any other religion except Islam. That's the problem. This concept or faith makes them fanatic although they sometimes restrain themselves from expressing such a thought when they live in a Christian or Hindu or Buddhist majority country. But it appears in their conduct as it's reflecting now a days....

@user-fp2wy8rk8e

8 ай бұрын

​@@mrinalkantisarkar9550i cant stand christianity or the belief of jesus . Does that make me a bad person?

@user-fp2wy8rk8e

8 ай бұрын

Im a mongerdongan . So watch out mushy

How about doing a better job at our borders again a double standard for Israel we have left our self side open to a serious threat.

So they are enjoying freedom of speech now, yet they cant take a carroon or facts about there profit,

That Edith Stein Peter mentioned is now a Catholic saint, on last check.

Great conversation.

I had three Great-Uncles who fought in the First World War, but only one came home. Of the two that were killed, one is commemorated on the Menin Gate in Ypres because his body was never found. My father was a regular who fought in the Second World War and who liberated a Nazi concentration camp. He witnessed firsthand the consequences of a twisted ideology that affected him till the day he died. If this country doesn't care about the sacrifice these people, and millions of others like them made, for the defence of what we hold dear today, then their is no future for this country or the rest of the world. Are we going to allow this twisted ideology to continue until it becomes so embedded in British society and beyond that we are too frightened to defend what should be basic human morality. "Went the day well? We died and never knew; But well or ill, Freedom, we died for you. When you go home Tell them of us and say, For your tomorrow We gave our today."

@KrisRoberts114

8 ай бұрын

My great grandfather made it home but was never the same, my dad would tell us about how he would hear a door slam and completely flip out and be right back on the front full of rage and panic, very sad👍

I am wondering why the protesters are covering their mouths. I would imagine protesters who are not afraid of what they say or do should reveal their faces to the public unless they wanna look like a militant.

@jayteedeene5981

8 ай бұрын

Hiding from the facial recognition cameras I suspect.

How is a march 'speech'?

@garygranato9164

8 ай бұрын

its just to distract from the fact that they have lost control. even if they march was banned, they'd still do it anyway.

@crustybomb115

8 ай бұрын

@@garygranato9164 lost control? when? several years ago when the UK allowed a literal horde of illegal immigrants into it? they simply dont want to do the work, instead of it, opting to sit on the sidelines and debate islamic literature with eachother as the horde marches on practically colonizing the UK with no resistance whatsoever...

@tinaedginton

8 ай бұрын

Our grandparents died fighting fascism, marches protests and free speech in this country shows their sacrifice was not in vein. It’s just a shame there are so many fascists today trying to stop protesting against bombing of children.

Most demonstrators regard a demo as a fun day out.

We didn’t run away. We were at war. Thousands volunteered, then went through conscription. Children were evacuated, women joined the forces, worked in the fields and munitions factories. Everything was saved and recycled. We built air raid shelters in our gardens. We didn’t run away to another country seeking asylum. People to old to fight became air raid wardens, police men, home guard, firemen etc. We dug up our gardens and parks to grow food. We had food rationed. We didn’t run away seeking asylum. We fought for our country. We lived in the blackout for years, went to work in the dark. We were bombed relentlessly week after week We didn’t run away. Our men were slaughtered, our ships were sunk, our cities decimated, we did this for 6 years . . .and still we didn’t run away.

@jennyfairbairn2525

8 ай бұрын

An excellent comment. Respect from Australia!

@DieFlabbergast

8 ай бұрын

Ah, but then there was no United Nations to give you free handouts -- for life -- for being "permanent refugees"!

@MariTeabag-lf1ly

8 ай бұрын

@@jennyfairbairn2525 Thanks, it’s from a sort of poem I write called ‘We didn’t run away’, probably a bit political but it’s how I felt today. Here’s the full version. We didn’t run away. We were at war. Thousands volunteered, then went through conscription. Children were evacuated, women joined the forces, worked in the fields and munitions factories. Everything was saved and recycled. We built air raid shelters in our gardens. We didn’t run away to another country seeking asylum. People to old to fight became air raid wardens, police men, home guard, firemen etc. Women drove the ambulances and provided tea and sandwiches. They trained to be nurses and left home for the first time. We dug up our gardens and parks to grow food. We had our food rationed. We didn’t run away seeking asylum. We fought for our country. We learnt how to keep pigs and chickens. Delivered milk to towns. We lived in the blackout for years, went to work in the dark. We were bombed relentlessly week after week. Many worked deep in the mines and in the fields. but we didn’t run away. Our men were slaughtered, our women and children were slaughtered, our ships were sunk, our cities decimated, our aeroplanes shot down, In every town and village, there was someone who died. We did this for 6 years . . .and still we didn’t run away.

@jennyfairbairn2525

8 ай бұрын

Brilliant! Keep Calm and Keep Writing!@@MariTeabag-lf1ly

Peter Hitchens. The pound land version of his late brother.

@Ken_oh545

8 ай бұрын

Ad hominem attack, off-topic and without value. Hint: concentrate on what is said.

@seanmoran2743

8 ай бұрын

It was he’s brother that supported NATO intervention in the Balkans and then Iraq and war in the Middle East He was little more than a Trotskyist Imperialist

@Cornz38

8 ай бұрын

Yes he did. Did you not think after the 9.11 incident that we should have just stood back and let them get away with it?@@seanmoran2743

@Cornz38

8 ай бұрын

You clearly don't understand what an ad hominem attack is and upvoting your own comments is a lamers trick.@@Ken_oh545

@DieFlabbergast

8 ай бұрын

Silly comment. Different character and different views. Christopher was silver-tongued and extremely well-read, but often shallow. His stubborn support for America's cowboy adventurism in Iraq will forever stain his reputation. But, obviously, you are a C. Hitchens fanboy.

What an awful crocodile, we are also mourning the loss of innocent BABIES and civilians, 10,000 of them!!!

I respect Mr. Hitchens' opinion, even though I don't agree with it, because he does not resort to using incorrect terms like "genocide," which is reserved for intentional efforts to erase another people, which is not and has never been a goal of Israel as a whole and is in fact the explicitly stated goal of Hamas. His objection to the bombing is that he doesn't believe it's worth the cost in human lives, and because he is genuinely concerned for Israeli-Palestinian interactions in the future. Would that all dialogue on the issue could be like this.

@Deborahstormfoster

8 ай бұрын

Israel explicitly states it wants to commit genocide and are trying their best to do it right now. What do you think Netenyahu was referring to when he quoted scipture about Amelekites.

@TizBaz5

8 ай бұрын

I'm trying to reply to your comment but it's getting deleted. Anyway, if the Israeli government was actually trying to commit genocide then it would not be opening up humanitarian corridors whole getting shot at by Hamas. Netanyahu is a far right wing nut job and he used religious imagery which most people in the country do not agree with.

@TizBaz5

8 ай бұрын

Furthermore, as far as I remember, he was talking about Hamas and not about the Palestinian population as a whole. I realize that Amalek is a terrible analogy, but first of all it has a lot of resonance with the Jewish people as a symbol of pure evil, which I would agree hamas represents, and second of all, netanyahu has a history of making terrible analogies like nuclear ducks. So don't take it too literally as calling for genocide.

@Deborahstormfoster

8 ай бұрын

"When someone tells you who they are you should believe them the first time." @@TizBaz5

Mr Hitchens suggests Israel should have ‘strengthened the fences’ and had a PR show. He does not understand who Hamas is or how those that hate Israel ‘think’. He does not realize how vivid WW2 events are in the Israeli psyche or how constant war or threat of war affects Israel. His view comes across as silly

@sharonbahar0124

8 ай бұрын

I thought so too. Easy to criticise Israel but not coming up with better military solutions than what Israel already does.

@colby25

8 ай бұрын

Yep it does seem a bit silly to expect the israeli government which is a unity govt now afterall to not retaliate in any way or form and just condemn verbally instead. It was the biggest mass murder of jews since the holocaust plus their territory was invaded. No nation in the world is going to sit back and not retaliate at that. As it was, there was 3 weeks of negotiations going on behind the scenes plus warnings and leaflet drops telling palestinians to move south of the wadi gaza. The israelis now are saying that if hamas want a ceasefire then they need to release all the hostages. I dont think they had any other choice and they are doing the best they can to avoid civilian casualties.

This is the final result, when Immigration into the UK allows anyone and everyone to come here because politicians are afraid they're gonna be called a bunch of racists.

Any restriction on speech is not Freedom of Speech.

Sadiq Khan should stop it

Why don't these people go demonstrate in Israel if they care so much

@ru76224

8 ай бұрын

You win the award for *stupid comment of the week* Congratulations!

Tragedy struck on 7th October 2023, 30 days ago and this guest is talking about 1948.....what's he talking about??? He said Isreal made a mistake in the reaction to the terrorists attack of 7th October. In his opinion, Isreal should start from fixing the fence........what next??? Rather than making suggestions on what should have been the appropriate response, he started History lessons. Commentators should be mindful of how sensitive the situation is on both ends and be so guided.

Under our First Amendment in the US, we distinguish freedom of speech from freedom of assembly. The US Supreme Court have long held that protests are subject to reasonable restrictions on the time, place and manner of such protests. Is that part of Brit unwritten collective conscience? It should be. Or maybe you should join the first world and develop a written legal culture. Or maybe stand up and fight the BS this coming weekend

@jasonking442

8 ай бұрын

Yes, the sophistication of your system was demonstrated admirably during the 2020 BLM riots... I mean protests...

@jennyfairbairn2525

8 ай бұрын

I thought of the Trump 'protesters' invading the Capitol building as well! @@jasonking442

@pindrop.

8 ай бұрын

In reality, we in the UK have neither freedom of speech or assembly. It is widely said we have both and argued that we most allow speech and protest that the majority find unpleasent or even abhorent because it is a foundation of our society. Perhaps that should be the case, and all speech and assembly should be enshrined in our law. However, they are not unquestioned rights, and as soon as a cause or speech that is unpopular with the authorities arises, the powers they claim to lack here are quickly found to suppress and curtail.

Saturday is a day to mourn. How arrogant, these people have lost ten to twenty thousand people in the last month. They deserve support.

It is the job of the police to keep the peace, so be peaceful and make their job easier.

The wrong brother was taken.

@andro.5678

8 ай бұрын

😆

Not a patch on your brother

@ravenmusic6392

8 ай бұрын

Hey guys I found the annoying uncritical Christopher Hitchens fan!

Many labour members resigning, yay👏👏👏, I noticed all of them are of Arab descent. Gosh, good thing I have never voted labour.

A ship of Jews in WW2 went to the US and they were turned away. Jews had to have their own land. What is so wrong is them moving into West Bank and they pushed out the arabs already living on the new zoning land of Israel. post ww2. There is a reason why the arab neighbours to Palestinian dont want them in their country. When they have in the past they have caused unrest. They arent good people as a whole and dont forget they voted for Hamas. There are Palestinian and arabs still living in Israel and 200,00 from Gaza were working in Israel daily. But, not 1 Jew lives or could go into Gaza. Thats says it all.

I really enjoy listening to Peter Hitchens and miss Christopher. Didn't agree with his atheism but that's what makes life interesting and terrifying at the same time.

@jennyfairbairn2525

8 ай бұрын

Well said.

Nice show today. On the topic of freedom of speech, any update on Fr. Calvin Robinson? Or is it GBNews pushing cancel culture?

@truckerfromreno

8 ай бұрын

Well said.

@nothandmade9686

8 ай бұрын

How would TalkTV know.

@edwarddeburca8034

8 ай бұрын

​@@nothandmade9686Hah! Yes. My mistake. Well spotted.

Peter Hitchens clearly believes in his reasonable reasoning. He is not in reality a reasonable person.

@malcolmmitchell4709

8 ай бұрын

Yes he is

For a brief moment, I thought that Peter was going to explain what he believes Israel should have done in response to the atrocities of October the seventh it he went off on a tangent, so we are still left wondering what should have been done.

@reactionaryjudaism

8 ай бұрын

In previous Gaza wars, he has said that, since Israel has no good options, it shouldn't do anything. He can't say that now though because it comes off too absurd.

@kelrogers8480

8 ай бұрын

Yes, I'm still honestly seeking an answer to that question.

@reactionaryjudaism

8 ай бұрын

There is no answer. I respect Peter Hitchens' blanket opposition to the use of aerial bombardment, but the implication of his position is that Israel should, in response to this, just get a better border fence and move on. @@kelrogers8480

@houstonsam6163

8 ай бұрын

Agreed, it seems that he rambled off and lost the thread. I have not heard anyone provide any alternate course of action the Israelis could have taken, only digressions to the "occupation" narrative and discussions of why the Israelis' action is doomed to fail.

@kelrogers8480

8 ай бұрын

@@reactionaryjudaism shouldn't do anything? Would he expect that from the US or the UK under the same circumstances? That IS absurd.

Three hypothetical questions for the average hypocritical person: 1. During WWII, when British and American bombers attacked Nazi Germany on a daily basis for months, did anyone distinguish between German military targets and the German civilian population? 2. Did anyone in Britain and the US lobby to have humanitarian corridors kept open for the German population during the war? 3. Was the war on Nazism less justified just because Nazi Germany suffered 30 times more civilian casualties than the British?

Where do people get there figures of 78 percent of British people. I never voted in such a pole and im btitish citizen. I never voted because i was never asked. If its an online pole then cuts a good majority of elderly British citizens.

I take the same view as Peter Hitchens here. Israel’s issue is that their stratcoms is crap. Hamas are beating them on the info ops / propaganda front, yet Israel seem to ignore public opinion and “narrative” because they seem to be unable to step back emotionally or they assume everybody sees this the way they do. They had the chance to demonstrate completely what Hamas were and what they did, building understanding and even support for any military action they were forced into. They had the absolute moral high ground in a way they haven’t since the Holocaust and they seem to have squandered it by speaking in absolute terms immediately and going straight to military action. They really need to up their PR game.

@KrisRoberts114

8 ай бұрын

Agreed

"This sort of warfare doesn't work" - Peter Hitchens. May I refer you to one of many examples where it has, Dresden/ Hiroshima which ended the second world war and Nazism (At least as a political movement.) And point out a fundamental principle of natural law, not just human law: You wouldn't go up to a lion and punch it in the face expecting a peaceful outcome. The notoriously "tough on crime" P Hitchens doesn't seem to understand the natural laws of retribution and justice.

This will backfire terribly for the Palestine cause, they will lose a lot of support and will have a backlash from the British public, I suggest they show respect and think again.

It would be good if the bloody normies would wake up to the threat of Islam, the more of it we have the worse this sort of thing will get.

If our casualties of war aren't important then noones are.......

Hitchens is the ultimate voice of reason

This is obviously an insult to those who gave their lives to fight tyranny!

I live in Australia for the past 10 years I have had a pause at 11.00am but the workplaces I worked at has generally not. Most of the younger generation dont care dont know. You can't force history on the masses.

@jennyfairbairn2525

8 ай бұрын

Last Armisitice Day here in Perth WA I was at a major shopping centre and everyone stopped, it was pretty moving. What was also really powerful was the sense of unity and the conversations that happened after the silence.

Progressivism poisons everything.

Israel does care what the protestors do or say its a total waste of time but it does intimidate the government and a certain demographic.

Someone should remind Suela her roots.

Memorials are for the ones who never came home. They have no graves but family can lay their poppies once a year.

Free Palestine from what?

these people have no respect whatsoever

Let's hold a day of prayer for Israel.

@nothandmade9686

8 ай бұрын

Christians get told not to.

@angelamary9493

8 ай бұрын

SHALOM 🙏

@ArnoldSwarez

8 ай бұрын

@@angelamary9493 Shalom to you also.

What w e are about to witness is a 'show of strength' by those who are beginning to see that they can dominate this country. Look at history and you will see that when the population has 10% of those that seek to impose their religion and way of life on others in all countries so far, they have succeeded. Look at Lebanon. It is inevitable now, given the demographics and the lack of will to maintain the previous way of life here in UK. A mere 40 years ago knife crime, machetes on the street, throwing acid in peoples' faces etc etc was almost entirely absent from our lives.

This is purely a consequence of living in a diverse society and one in which the native population no longer pass on a coherant culture to the next generation. The native population and our inheritance is basically viewed as inherently oppressive and antagonistic to the settler colonial population. At best the settlers simply feel neutral about us. At worst they actively resent us. As such no formerly sacred spaces are safe and no tradition or set of behaviours will be secure. Everything from the Monarchy downward is in danger. We are being colonised. It is as simple as that. ps. If people are going to "defend the Cenotaph" etc then my adice is to do it in a dignified way and simply meet the foreign & metropolitan sneers with a dignified silence.

Hitchens is 100% correct.

@exsubmariner

8 ай бұрын

Hitchens is 100% 🔔 End

@ashfield1425

8 ай бұрын

@@exsubmariner That’s your opinion which you are 100% entitled to have and that is the direct result of having free speech which he just talked about in this clip. You must therefore agree with him on some of the things that he says.

@exsubmariner

8 ай бұрын

@@ashfield1425 my respect for Peter hitchens has declined somewhat after I saw him throwing a tantrum and walking off camera during an interview. All because he didn't like the questions put to him the cameras were still rolling and you can see him throwing cushions and acting like spoilt brat. I used to have a lot of respect for Peter but I got to see the other side of him he's become a populist snob

Maybe our fathers who fought in the war and give their lives might of got it wrong because not alot of people today give honour or respect of the sacrifice we should be ashamed

Peter Hitchens has really fallen down in the world lol

Lest we forget - the War to end all wars?

The king of Saudi Arabia made a statement stating this go find it if you still can

Peter Hitchen, this is maturity. His approach is very well balanced

@larryl164

8 ай бұрын

I do not agree with him. He still thinks you can fight hamas on moral grounds. He is de-touched from reality. Not a strong response would be deemed as Hamas's victory and will follow with more even more outrages attack on israel.

@JosiahWarren

8 ай бұрын

He thinks people fought to defend foreighn elements to ptotest innorder to destabilize .atmost stpiditi

@lewisbrand

8 ай бұрын

No. it's just ignorance by proxy. He talks about the Gestapo, yet won't fight against these people. He claims to be a supporter of Israel ? Really ? Appeasement does not work Peter, and , sadly maybe, destroying Germany in WW2 defeated the Nazis , not giving away Czechoslovakia to them . Stupid breeds stupid.

A lot of talking. But what are you actually going to do when the crowd gets out of control? What can the police do? Is it really a good idea to broadcast how outnumbered they are?

I pretty much agree with most of what Peter Hitchens says, not on all topics, but at least even when I disagree with him their is rational thought behind his arguments. I think he has been excellent on his analysis of the Hamas/Israel conflict. The only question I have is when does free speech become the obliteration of other peoples speech. I am quite close to a free speech fundamentalist when it comes to discussions and the sharing of ideas. However when you have fanatics that seem to want to devour all of the publics mental bandwidth with their cause in what seems to be an unceasing series of “protests” It seems possible that free speech can actually be utilised in the negation of free speech.

Col Douglas Macgregor Ret has been spot on ref the Gaza Israel Crisis

Hitchins sounds so naive and silly elaborating on 1948 and old movies. Wake up! Your own country is under a threat.This is not about Gaza or Israel anymore. Bigger issues are at stake in UK. Islamists got an apetite for Remembrance Day and for abousing popy sellers and desecratiing Cenotaphs- as in Rochdale.

The British brown underpants police would rather be hiding under the desk at the station policing Facebook.

There are elderly and young living on the streets of london. There not hostages but you need to care about them. No? Not good news

Parliament is in the hands of Rishi sunak if he wants to take action under 1986 public order act and block the march But he is deflecting his duties. The police does have powers but the mayor of London a Muslim opposes it. So if british has immigrants in important places of authority who do not have british values culture tradition and history then britian is in trouble.

Why get these people on to express an opinion you know what it is going to be before they say anything . Armistice day means a day 24 not 2 hrs afterwards. It’s a British day , end of

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