Great to see the correct 'over arm' use of the dory.

I like the guy with the chicken emblem on his shield. He has that I do not give a cluck look to him.

@Nervii_Champion

Жыл бұрын

This is a masterpiece of a comment

@montvilleo

3 ай бұрын

That would be "brave Sir Robin" !!!

I enjoy rewatching these videos of battlefield drills, honestly if the whole group had just a few weeks of dedicated drill together the unit cohesion would be very impressive

It was said there were 5,000 Spartiates (full citizens of Sparta) and another 5,000 Perioeci (2nd tier citizens of Sparta) who participated in the Battle of Plataea. Take what you see in this video and imagine that many men moving at the same time in the same formation; though with deeper ranks and better discipline.

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

Жыл бұрын

and there was not just Lacadamonian people at plataea..... there were armies from whole other polis! It was the largest battle in europe for hundreds of years!

@malligrub

Жыл бұрын

There were also 70,,000 Greeks from the other States as well. The Spartans also always took their slave Helots but never included them in their official count, though they far outnumbered the Spartiates and also fought to the death as they did at Thermopylae. They are never credited at all.

@snokelpops

10 ай бұрын

@@malligrub Then they are credited as dying alongside their masters…and that’s enough for them.

@realdragon

Ай бұрын

Spartans have been learning discipline ever since they were children

You can quickly see why maneuver training was paramount.

Great to see the Phalanx in action! What is the command to go forward? I'm about to translate Xenophon's Anabasis, it's fantastic to see you recreate the ancient fighting styles.

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! Sadly i cannot for the life of me remeber!! If you have facebook. I cant reccomend the international hoplite discussion group more, a massive amount of knowledge there and someone will be abme to answer!

How often are hoplite legs armored? If not it’s just asking for slingers and javelins

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

Жыл бұрын

Helmets were the first to get item, but then likely greaves. So a quite a lot of hoplites would have had greaves, especially front rankers

This is very cool was interested in getting into stuff like this I was wondering where do you guys buy the shields

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

Жыл бұрын

Personally i make my own, otherwise you can check out Res Bellica

@kadegk7161

Жыл бұрын

@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History ok thank you very much

It is worth noting that the first time they ran, I just let them do what they wanted. The second time, they had one rule: keep physical contact with the men beside you in the rank. With contact, they move as one.

I really want to join this

I'm just sitting her curious as to if all Hoplite phalanxes started off with a huge clash at first , or if some would've poked at each other a little bit before entering the clash.

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

Жыл бұрын

Sadly very little is known. However, it is likely that most phalanx fights would not really see an Othismos- deliberately at least. It is thought to be more of a situation rather than a tactic

@saber2802

Жыл бұрын

@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History I kind of imagine they would've tried to weaken each other, and as soon as one side wavers the Othismos is given and shatters them.

@realdragon

Ай бұрын

I saw once video that said if phalanx collided the people in front would be fighting people in second or third row because simply you have no place to fight enemy in front of you

so cool

Where was this held? Where were the camp-followers? LOL!!

Hey! I love ancient history like you and I would love to buy a chiton, a simple one like the ones that hoplites weared under the linothorax... Do you can help me out with finding a store? Or do you sell them? It would be a dream! Cheers from Germany, Norman, the one who wants to steal Chalkion from the eleusians... :-D

@HO-bndk

2 ай бұрын

Get your womenfolk to make you one, like the ancient Greeks all did. 😊

It seems everyones dedicated to making it as realistic as possible. Under what circumstances are you allowed to fight with fake spears?

Looks like a hot day. No wonder they wore the leather skirts.

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

2 жыл бұрын

Ha! Yes the Chitons allow some nice airflow!! Btw they were usually linen or wool, not leather

kränkes video brüh

so cool bringing ancient warfare to life !

Shields together! !!! Dory higher.move together!!!

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

10 ай бұрын

The shields are together? With respect, this is a global group of people with different language barriers doing this for the first time. If you are expecting this to be perfect that is impossible. Vicent, the leader of the french group, teaches this at universities in France and the french group are certainly more concise and disciplined than the rest. Not sure what you're expecting. The title is "learning the phalanx," that is what is happening here. We were learning it.

Where did you get spears and swords from?

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

Жыл бұрын

Spear head was from Res Bellica. Xiphos manufaturer is Deekeeka, you can find the weapons on res bellica, dark sword armoury, kult of athena, etc.

@awesomeaiden53srandomstuff53

Жыл бұрын

@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History what about the armor?

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

Жыл бұрын

@@awesomeaiden53srandomstuff53 many different places. Id reccomend checking out my reenactment guide series (which will have more additions soon!). Much of it is custom made by armourers, which is the most expensive but best quality.

What is this????

Aww common… Surely in THIS circumstance them reenactors can at least poke each other with blunted spears😂not just othismos

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, many of use wished we did but no such luck, I'm hoping for the next event we can! Fingers crossed

@AbdulhamidMohammed9000

2 жыл бұрын

@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History hahaha hope so

@AbdulhamidMohammed9000

2 жыл бұрын

@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History and just a quick question, some helmet have weird leather suspension thing like two pieces of leather sticking out, is this historicly accurate though?

Where is that place?

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

Жыл бұрын

Plataea, Greece. Very close to where the actual Greek camp was

Great work but what is that horrible buzzing sound

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! Its a drone, unfortunately if i tried to du down the sound it would have made it almost impossible to hear everyone

@NeuKrofta

9 ай бұрын

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History yea I tried watching some of the other videos but it was too much. So glad to see more people re-enacting and doing some historical recreations like this. Of all the ancients the Greeks have always been my favorite, they have the best aesthetic . Keep up the good work and content!

WTF???? That guy with the straw hat looks like me!

I thought Plataea was over.

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

2 жыл бұрын

It is. I had to edit all of the clips once I got home so I am slowly uploading them

@SBxTwo

2 жыл бұрын

Ok

@troydodson9641

2 жыл бұрын

It will never be over

You might be able to use a spear.

Your soldiers have shields and trucks? I better not go to war with YOU!

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

Жыл бұрын

Haha! Sadly the battlefield was the other end of the camera xD

They need 20 years to learn. Please.

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

10 ай бұрын

Sorry that a load of reenactors who have outside lives cant become full time ancient people...

@HO-bndk

2 ай бұрын

​@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History Then it's probably quite authentic as real hoplites didn't train (ok, the Spartan peers and Thebans did a little bit)

Overhand grip is the absolute horrible way to hold a spear and no, you can't convince me otherwise

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

Жыл бұрын

Okay then. But i 100% disagree with you and many reenactors and historians do too

@user-lj8gk1nv5i

8 ай бұрын

yea in the way of fighting no one would expect a spear coming from above

@itskarl7575

5 ай бұрын

I used to think so too, but Thrand demonstrated how the overhand grip has significantly more power, and more reach than you'd think.

@itskarl7575

5 ай бұрын

@@user-lj8gk1nv5i In the way of fighting in this video, everyone would expect it as it is the only possible way to do it, because of the interlocking shields - something for which there is little, if any, historical basis. And no, contrary to popular perception, there is NO art depicting overlapping aspis. It is the Chigi vase, in particular, which has been used as an example of hoplites interlocking shields in art, but there is no interlocking of shields going on there. This becomes blatantly obvious when you look at the formation on the _left,_ where you see quite clearly that each individual shield covers only the hoplite carrying it. Overlapping shields can be useful in othismos, when two formations push against each other, but that's about it.

@HO-bndk

2 ай бұрын

​@@itskarl7575 Essentially nobody really has any idea how they fought. Your guess is as good as anyone else's.

You do realise that the actual Greek phallanx was nothing like that in the video, right? Even the AMATEUR Greek hoplites (I mean ALL... except the PROFESSIONAL Spartans!), had MUCH PERFECT formation and movement (all together). I don't have to say HOW PERFECT was the SPARTAN phallanx. You guys simply like the ancient Greek warefare and you're "playing around" the Greek hoplites. The ACTUAL hoplites had YEARS of training (daily!) to doing such formations & movement.

@jeffhogan3433

Жыл бұрын

Ok I get it. It must be difficult going through life having a penis so small it resembles a button on a suit jacket. But please...get some context. What part of historical reenactment do you need explained to you in crayon? 100% of these people have actual jobs and are not real Hoplites. You understand that right? Second, this is the first time the VAST majority of everyone pictured here worked together. Let that settle in for a second so you understand what that means and can extrapolate any training issues that may arise from such a scenario. Again, lay off the psychedelics. It isn't the ACTUAL battle of Plataea. This was last year. WTF bud. Bots are so...rude these days.

@HO-bndk

2 ай бұрын

Hoplites didn't have "years of training," and Spartan peers were by no means "professional soldiers."

Laughable

@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History

2 жыл бұрын

How so?

@Cachoeira1986

Жыл бұрын

@@LeonidasSparta-Fun-History This guy with his negative comment is not worth your attention, my friend. You did a fantastic job.

@dotsdot5608

Жыл бұрын

why do they continue to shove and not start stabbing?