Phalanx vs Legion : Battle of Cynoscephalae

The roman victory in the battle of Cynoscephalae ( 197 BC ) marked the end of the second macedonian war between Rome and Philip V, king of Macedon. The battle is considered one of the best examples of manipular roman legion superiority over the macedonian phalanx in terms of flexibility and combat maneuvering.
The reconstruction of the battle is based on Polybius account from Histories,book 18 , 24-27.
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  • @Syntagma
    @Syntagma5 жыл бұрын

    Vox Populi.... Seeing a lot of comments asked for a voice over, we decided to add VO in our latest video, covering the roman republican legion - kzread.info/dash/bejne/iaJrvNSJmsa9Zrw.html

  • @cyrusthagreat6649

    @cyrusthagreat6649

    5 жыл бұрын

    awesome!

  • @raiderius_

    @raiderius_

    5 жыл бұрын

    wtf?!?! people are to lazy to read now a days!?!?

  • @cyrusthagreat6649

    @cyrusthagreat6649

    5 жыл бұрын

    a voice over can do a lot of things for a channel as small as his

  • @raiderius_

    @raiderius_

    5 жыл бұрын

    true. i think that you can do both certain topics require more of a narrative. others are perfectly fine how they are like this video in my humble opinion

  • @bozorgone6414

    @bozorgone6414

    5 жыл бұрын

    intervene

  • @keycaro4788
    @keycaro47884 жыл бұрын

    "Our men are fleeing the field of battle, this is a shameful display"

  • @yougetonthathorseyougottar6126

    @yougetonthathorseyougottar6126

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shamefur *

  • @engarde9054

    @engarde9054

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shamefuru dispuray

  • @autisticinbred7522

    @autisticinbred7522

    4 жыл бұрын

    THIS IS NO WAY FOR A LEADER TO BEHAVE! BUT IN BATTLE, IT IS BEYOND BELIEF!

  • @TheCrankRammsis

    @TheCrankRammsis

    4 жыл бұрын

    The man are wavering!

  • @jkjkhardcore666

    @jkjkhardcore666

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lmao love this thread

  • @RearAdmiralTootToot
    @RearAdmiralTootToot4 жыл бұрын

    No triangles or rectangles were harmed in the making of this video

  • @noetrevino7055

    @noetrevino7055

    4 жыл бұрын

    I went to school with a triangle once. Guy was an asshole

  • @brianlam257

    @brianlam257

    4 жыл бұрын

    RIP circles

  • @europeansovietunion7372

    @europeansovietunion7372

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@brianlam257 Don't be shapist.

  • @chinimon8259

    @chinimon8259

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bunch of trapezoids

  • @jkjkhardcore666

    @jkjkhardcore666

    4 жыл бұрын

    The triwngles were paid actors, the rectangle were extras

  • @Theplaymaker1271
    @Theplaymaker12714 жыл бұрын

    "The enemies hearts are full of fear and now they flew! Pursue them, And drive them from the battlefield!"

  • @VioletMilks

    @VioletMilks

    4 жыл бұрын

    CAVALRY PURSUE!!

  • @kevinsalguero411

    @kevinsalguero411

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rome total war?

  • @tgalzol0002

    @tgalzol0002

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ahh the goid old total war rome

  • @alexanderthegreat1356

    @alexanderthegreat1356

    3 жыл бұрын

    THE GODS BE PRAISED THE ENEMIES HEARTS ARE FULL OF FEAR AND NOW THEY FLEE

  • @Tom-tk4ir

    @Tom-tk4ir

    3 жыл бұрын

    GODS BE PRAISED, THE ENEMY GENERAL IS DEAD! PRESS FOWARD SO THE SPIRIT OF HIS ARMY IS BROKE IN 2

  • @themirror8994
    @themirror89943 жыл бұрын

    That one Tribune that decided to take his company and flank - *I am gonna do whats called pro roman move*

  • @kingponto1295

    @kingponto1295

    3 жыл бұрын

    The biggest difference for the Romans imo is that the Tribunes and unit commanders had a moderate ability to make a decision like that flank and win entire battles.

  • @MCshadr217

    @MCshadr217

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kingponto1295 That's the whole idea of having them, though, it allows for minor commands and opportunities to be ceased by allowing some fluidity in the ranks. Obviously, they couldn't disobey an order, more so, they'd take an order, and follow it in a different way, if the opportunity strikes, of course.

  • @clementgodard601

    @clementgodard601

    3 жыл бұрын

    A shame we don't and probably never will know his name. He should be remembered !

  • @InhumaneSinner

    @InhumaneSinner

    3 жыл бұрын

    Decentralized command

  • @Haannibal777

    @Haannibal777

    3 жыл бұрын

    Clément Godard Surely his name was Scipio. All the best generals were called Scipio.

  • @jkazi122
    @jkazi1225 жыл бұрын

    - *watches video* - *re-installs Rome II Total War*

  • @bighit20100

    @bighit20100

    5 жыл бұрын

    LOL SAME HERE!

  • @Carbonitt

    @Carbonitt

    5 жыл бұрын

    Haha true story bro.

  • @jkazi122

    @jkazi122

    5 жыл бұрын

    R U 1 2 What? Who are you debating? Lmao

  • @benjaminj.m8531

    @benjaminj.m8531

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@RU-zm7wj kid game??? Lol

  • @philthethotdestroyer4194

    @philthethotdestroyer4194

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@RU-zm7wj chill fam

  • @david7019
    @david70195 жыл бұрын

    The Romans thought they could just go around that. ... And they did.

  • @AJ-ud1ui

    @AJ-ud1ui

    4 жыл бұрын

    Not until they routed the Macedonian left flank.

  • @adrianbundy3249

    @adrianbundy3249

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@AJ-ud1ui Actually, while they were not even breaking the left flank yet, but running past them to that battle; the manipular system and flexibility the legionaries provided - one saw the opportunity, and quickly charged the right flank and routed them. The point in this video was to demonstrate that because the nature of the legionaries in general, you could more effectively find, and exploit these things rather than having to set up the lines slower, and react to things much better on the fly. Which is why overall; it was still the better system.

  • @jrjrorpe

    @jrjrorpe

    4 жыл бұрын

    ban la nguoi viet nam ak

  • @gurumagoo

    @gurumagoo

    4 жыл бұрын

    There was this tribe in Spain who resisted the Romans. The Romans sent the legions after them and they closed themselves up in their fortress and laughed at the Romans saying their fortress was impregnable and they had enough food to last for 10 years, thinking this would make the Romans give up and go away. The Roman commander laughed and said: Then we'll crucify you all in the 11th year. They surrendered the next day.

  • @gurumagoo

    @gurumagoo

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Gazbanger More like: they thought back on their years in cold, wet, drizzly England, took one look at colder, wetter, drizzlier AND treeless Scotland and said: "F#@k it....let's just build a wall. They can have it....LOL

  • @francispoldiak7948
    @francispoldiak79482 жыл бұрын

    The phalanx of Philip's day was a remnant of a once combination of arms system. Philip and Alexander relied on their superior Companion cavalry for the needed offensive punch; the phalanx was meant to transfix the enemy and prevent him from making necessary field adjustments.

  • @jgalleher7379
    @jgalleher73793 жыл бұрын

    Much like Gettysburg, a decisive battle happens almost accidently, when two groups doing scouting/recon run into each other and start fighting, and then draw the rest into the battle. Generals didn't pick the terrain, or the time but were forced into a battle.

  • @jimmymeinhart4265

    @jimmymeinhart4265

    Жыл бұрын

    Makes a lot of sense actually. Few competent generals would probably risk losing a surely decisive battle by engaging on the overwhelming terms of the enemy, unless they really had to. If everyone is unprepared or in a neutral position, flip a coin. Heads we win, tails we die. Someone's gotta win, might as well be us.

  • @FaithfulOfBrigantia

    @FaithfulOfBrigantia

    Жыл бұрын

    Sometimes they picked the terrain, sometimes they picked the time, sometimes they didn't.

  • @colemanwalsh7477

    @colemanwalsh7477

    Жыл бұрын

    True but Macedon has very clear way to turn it around but there general did nothing at the moment to do so you cannot allow a phalanx to get flanked and the general and the last of his calvary just sat there and let it happen. Rome was lucky Alexander was around at the time

  • @lukas081559

    @lukas081559

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jimmymeinhart4265 it was anything but even chance for the greeks. Phalanx is way less usefull on uneaven terrain.

  • @thenewfire

    @thenewfire

    Жыл бұрын

    @@colemanwalsh7477 Alexander was just lucky he went East instead of West.

  • @somnius2519
    @somnius25196 жыл бұрын

    Thumbs up. If history was taught like this, with the assisting visuals and added life, I think more people would be interested in learning it.

  • @natesmith8523

    @natesmith8523

    6 жыл бұрын

    Nightmare of Onyx this isn’t basic history. This is a battle. Many students are interested in wars and battles. It is everything else that might shy people away. History isn’t all warfare.

  • @somnius2519

    @somnius2519

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh I'm aware of that. You are talking to someone that's read stuff like Chaucer, Herodotus and the like (really stuff spanning the ages). History's always been a passion of mine, and the reading comes easier to me. I also know that it is not the same way for all people. My point is that it would help those who normally wouldn't be interested if some more life was breathed into it, to make it seem more real than just dusty textbook reading.

  • @bighands69

    @bighands69

    6 жыл бұрын

    History is all about battle. Anybody who tells you it is not is just kidding themself. Every culture on earth has had battle at the centre of its development. Without battle the Roman empire would never have existed.

  • @heartbreakmanNo1

    @heartbreakmanNo1

    6 жыл бұрын

    Best thing History teacher can offer: "Damn dat Phalanx was pretty good, but gettin "charge" in de ass can make any man run fo his booty" :T

  • @Sotyx1

    @Sotyx1

    6 жыл бұрын

    No truer words were ever spoken. But I suppose this applies to about every subject doesn't it?

  • @allninelivez7631
    @allninelivez76315 жыл бұрын

    Macedonians: but how?! Our Phalanx! Romans: the future is now old man.

  • @scudb5509

    @scudb5509

    5 жыл бұрын

    This battle was lost due to a strategic failure and not tactical. If Macedonia reinforcement had formed the line, they would’ve won.

  • @gabzdark07

    @gabzdark07

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sttabers8257 Samurai used guns all the time...

  • @JustOssetian

    @JustOssetian

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@scudb5509 if phalanx was so great, romans would have used it in every war. But it is not, once it's flanked, it's done. Roman legions were more versatile and overall better.

  • @scudb5509

    @scudb5509

    5 жыл бұрын

    JustOssetian So you don’t get flanked, simple as that. Battle strategy always wins everything.

  • @JustOssetian

    @JustOssetian

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@scudb5509 easier said than done. Phalanx is of course a great force on the battlefield but it's problem is that it's only effective in a very specific formation and only when its flanks are carefully protected, it's not fast, it can't charge quickly enough and is not versatile, it cannot be used in skirmishes vs light and agile units. Even one small mistake in using phalanx might lead to the ultimate loss of the battle, and that is exactly what happened in the event described in this video. Legions didn't have these weaknesses.

  • @kingofeast3125
    @kingofeast31253 жыл бұрын

    “The battle is turning in our favour!” Is the best feeling

  • @gillesguillaumin6603

    @gillesguillaumin6603

    Жыл бұрын

    A battle called "Tête de Chien ", Dog's Head, it's strange.

  • @eliascommentonly4652

    @eliascommentonly4652

    Жыл бұрын

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  • @julianmarsh1378
    @julianmarsh13783 жыл бұрын

    Even at its peak, the Macedonian phalanx was not often used offensively. Alexander, for example, relied on the phalanx to pin the enemy's army in place, while he led the Companion cavalry to making a decisive breakthrough....by the 3rd century the strong (and expensive) cavalry was greatly reduced, leaving everything up to the inflexible infantry.....Rome never really had to face the original phalanx force....

  • @vojtechotava1417

    @vojtechotava1417

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly!

  • @namelessboar

    @namelessboar

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well, macedonians never met the roman legion on it's apex in the principate era too

  • @julianmarsh1378

    @julianmarsh1378

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@namelessboar True. but strong cavalry with able commanders can almost always trump infantry....

  • @namelessboar

    @namelessboar

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@julianmarsh1378 macedonian heavy cavalry was quite lesser effective than kataphraktoi&medieval men-at-arms in its shock tactic at least cause of stirrups absence. p.s. sorry for my english, it's not my native language

  • @julianmarsh1378

    @julianmarsh1378

    3 жыл бұрын

    I understand that but they had no medieval cavalry to go up against....and if they had, Alexander would have come up with a way to neutralize them....

  • @EpichistoryTv
    @EpichistoryTv6 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Love the 3D work, really impressive.

  • @Syntagma

    @Syntagma

    6 жыл бұрын

    thanks man, this matters a lot coming from you :)

  • @MajorKreissack88

    @MajorKreissack88

    5 жыл бұрын

    Syntagma i do 3d modeling and sculpting as a hobby and love ancient times warriors, I wouldnt mind making a few, but Im not sure if you prefer the minimalistic approach(cubes, sticks etc). Here is a sample of stuff Ive done drive.google.com/file/d/175OPSNrUyEQ4nh3GtNLzlDDDNxGwqSKc/view?usp=drivesdk

  • @moviejose3249

    @moviejose3249

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nice work dude.

  • @Pjm357

    @Pjm357

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Syntagma you and Epic History TV should collaborate. Its going to be an amazing video asset for history.

  • @albertoprignacchi9541

    @albertoprignacchi9541

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@Syntagma n g7 chi vi abita

  • @antpal8884
    @antpal88844 жыл бұрын

    That tribune that flanked became instantly rich after the battle

  • @CarterMassey

    @CarterMassey

    4 жыл бұрын

    AntPal Is that true?

  • @jdog7797

    @jdog7797

    4 жыл бұрын

    *ROME IS THE BEST!*

  • @DaveLambertITA

    @DaveLambertITA

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@CarterMassey I don't know if it's true but it's likely, since his actions had a decisive impact on the battle.

  • @andywomack3414

    @andywomack3414

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DaveLambertITA Yet we do not know his name.

  • @DS-zn7yk

    @DS-zn7yk

    3 жыл бұрын

    in ancient rome if you disobey someone as higher rank than you it was considered a treason for disobedience even though you fight glorious in battle because roman army was trained in extreme discipline

  • @atf5813
    @atf58133 жыл бұрын

    Romans: Go around the phalanx Macedonians: “Wait, that’s illegal!”

  • @sadiqahmed4143

    @sadiqahmed4143

    2 жыл бұрын

    Achemenids :- why didn't we think of that

  • @stefanciocan1605

    @stefanciocan1605

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@sadiqahmed4143 they did think about that lol..the problem was that here Philip was pretty much a shit commander.. Alexander was alaways using support infantry to protect the flanks of the phalanx. Cavalary was also working in tandem with the formation like a hammer and anvil.. Philip had no idea how to use the phalanx.. There is of course the roman formation to consider. While not perfect, it allowed great movement across the battlefield. Overall, this defeat was possible due to Philip stupidity, and roman rezerves and tactical thinking.

  • @wankawanka3053

    @wankawanka3053

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sadiqahmed4143 well the companions made sure that this wasn't going to happen

  • @sgauden02
    @sgauden024 жыл бұрын

    Philip V: It's over Romans! I have the high ground! Me: Then why didn't you use it?!

  • @tamiloxd7168

    @tamiloxd7168

    2 жыл бұрын

    Romans:You underestimate my power! *They actually did it*

  • @sugarcombfilms3467
    @sugarcombfilms34674 жыл бұрын

    The rigid Phalanx was winning head to head, yet the flexible Legion was able to outmaneuver and shatter their line

  • @ottovonbasedmark

    @ottovonbasedmark

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well concluded

  • @johanlassen6448

    @johanlassen6448

    4 жыл бұрын

    Flexible? Rigid? What gave you this idea? Roman "flexible" legionaries did no better when they were flanked at Heraclea or Cannae, and Greek "rigid" phalanxes were able to perform zigzag maneuvers, reverse wheeling manuvers and hollow square maneuvers throughout their history. Heavy infantry are all "rigid". Their ability to maneuver has nothing to do with their weapons, but with the organization and leadership of a particular unit.

  • @theshinygiratina7365

    @theshinygiratina7365

    4 жыл бұрын

    Johan Lassen I agree

  • @ylfaer

    @ylfaer

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@johanlassen6448 Well, you can do whatever conjecture or hypothesis you want. In the end, Roman legions dominated the region and a big chunk of the world for a loong time. "Ah, but if Alexander were alive..." Conjectures. In the end, history is written. Rome won, the legions won, and Phalanxes not. Of course, long pikes (and a lot of formations involving it) are excellent weapons and continued in use for centuries, but again, conjectures.

  • @johanlassen6448

    @johanlassen6448

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ylfaer Rome* dominated that chunk of the world for a long time. But they themselves abandoned the legionaries. As for the rest of your "argument", it is not based on substance and instead lazily attempts to simply use the outcome as the entire answer while failing to take into account any other factors. I suppose by your logic the Lagg-3 was a better plane than the Bf 109 as well? The Allies won the war after all.

  • @byronmak7943
    @byronmak79436 жыл бұрын

    Animations like these show how minute maneuvers factor into the outcome, marking the difference between A) textbooks and Wikipedia and B) it happening before one's eyes.

  • @FirstLast-fr4hb

    @FirstLast-fr4hb

    6 жыл бұрын

    Its also a lot of fabrication, guessing, whihc often leads to misstated "facts".

  • @EllAntares

    @EllAntares

    6 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, though romans were the first one in recorded history that started to record things as precisely as possible, creating what known now as "military science". One of key reasons of military success was their ability to learn. Interesting enough they were reluctant to execute or oppress lost side which had both political effect and the educational. Quite a number of defeated enemies, or even rebels ended up as roman commanders or sources of their side perspective.

  • @FirstLast-fr4hb

    @FirstLast-fr4hb

    6 жыл бұрын

    as precisely beneficial to the author or commissioner of the writing as possible. :) Now of course we have flawless heros and crazy psychopaths that the heros didnt like.

  • @levi799

    @levi799

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, Quite awesome that the Romans made these animations instead of writing because we could have misinterpreted how the battles went down with just text.

  • @CrueKnight

    @CrueKnight

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's definitely easier to visualize, that's for sure. And yes Roman's were very decent at recording details, but you normally aren't going to read that much detail in general historical textbooks unless you were studying warfare. Historical "facts" are usually pretty close to truth, because not only are there records, but process of elimination of what could have happened only provide us with a couple of likely or less-likely scenarios.

  • @mullenio4200
    @mullenio42004 жыл бұрын

    Hmm. I still think that the defeat was largely Phillip's fault. Had he held a defensive position on top of the hill with all of his men, he might have held out. It seems he didn't respect the Roman's enough.

  • @theshinygiratina7365

    @theshinygiratina7365

    4 жыл бұрын

    True, I still like the phalanx better

  • @JohnDoe-qu2dr

    @JohnDoe-qu2dr

    4 жыл бұрын

    Should have waited for the other half at the foot of the hill.

  • @antonis5784

    @antonis5784

    4 жыл бұрын

    He made sooo many mistakes! I agree with you

  • @hiluminatul6750

    @hiluminatul6750

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Macedonian Phalanx is a totally different formation than the Greek Phalanx, common mistake by many...for starters, it is an offensive one while the Greek phalanx is a defensive one, moreover the Macedonian Phalanx needs and even ground to be able to work properly as seen in the battle of Pydna, where the Macedonian phalanx was not even, and the Roman Legionaries just charged through the holes and defeated them!!! Sure, it is a force to be reckoned with, if charged head on, but ultimately the Roman Maniple formation is more versatile and can be adapted pretty quickly to everything that could happen...moreover, the fact that the romans encouraged lower officers to make decisions on their own, greatly increased the adaptability!!! So, Philip V, wasn't at fault, the problem was that the Macedonian Phalanx has a lot of flaws in versatility and adaptability...the only mistake he had made was sending a part of his army to go foraging, but the blame lies with the Macedonian Phalanx formation, because it just takes so long to form

  • @proaaron578

    @proaaron578

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@hiluminatul6750 Your point is however seriously flawed. First of all, I don't know who you're writing to. I don't see anyone here that says that the Macedonian Phalanx and the Greek Phanalnx are the same. Also, at Pydna, the phalanx pushed needlessly over rough terrain. You made it seem like not being able to operate in uneven ground is horrible. Alexander had Shield Bearers for fighting on uneven ground and covering the flanks, which would have helped win the battle of Pydna. Also, you said that Philip V wasn't at fault. No one sends half of his army foraging when you don't even know the terrain well. That's a blunder, not a minor mistake like you make it seem. Also, he rushed too much. He knew he only had half of his army but abandoned his favorable position. His troops are not losing. So if Philip only sent some light troops to go foraging (which is what normal generals will do), his troops will be evenly matched against the Roman cavalry and light troops. He could then march up the hill with all the infantry and could use the high ground to generate momentum to push the Romans off. The maniple, however flexible and versatile, can not compete with a phalanx attacking downhill. Also, in Philip II and Alexander's reign, the phalanx was paired with the elite Companion Cavalry, the best in the world at that time in a hammer and anvil tactic, which is famous enough to not need a description. Here they were nowhere to be seen either. You made it seem that the not-so-versatile Macedonian phalanx is responsible for the defeat. They did well. It was the general who commanded them to go forage that was in the wrong. That's like the Persian army sending the Immortals to go scouting. Also, the maniple system was replaced by the cohort system in 107 BC. That really puts a dent in your whole argument. The maniple unit was made to be flexible to fight in the Samnite Wars in the mountains.

  • @Andrewbert109
    @Andrewbert1093 жыл бұрын

    I never knew seeing shapes moving around could be so exciting

  • @TheMixedPlateFrequency
    @TheMixedPlateFrequency5 жыл бұрын

    Dude I love your page! I also liked how you showed all the animations and showed the placement and timing of those positions while explaining everything.

  • @7bootzy
    @7bootzy6 жыл бұрын

    I thought I wouldn't like this since it didn't have a voiceover, but the fluid graphics really helped me imagine the battle and how it unfolded. Got a sub and bell from me!

  • @Syntagma

    @Syntagma

    6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot man :) That's actually what we try to achieve, create a mainly visual story with key moments text to back it up :)

  • @joakimwiklund9166

    @joakimwiklund9166

    6 жыл бұрын

    Are you interested in finding a voice actor to narrate some videos though? I'm interested and experienced if you're interested.

  • @SpArDaSr
    @SpArDaSr3 жыл бұрын

    The level of knowledge for this battle proves you have a great understanding! We want more of these type battle videos! 🙏

  • @uwekonnigsstaddt524
    @uwekonnigsstaddt5243 жыл бұрын

    Loved this video, simple but effective. The musical score is perfect. Superb. Played the video several times, accompanied by that musical score, can’t never get enough! Thanks!

  • @whitechocolateman1088
    @whitechocolateman10886 жыл бұрын

    First video I watched. It was inspiring and extremely well done! I consequently subscribed. Thank you.

  • @stopandlisten6070
    @stopandlisten60704 жыл бұрын

    "The enemy are fleeing for their lives! What a glorious day!"

  • @xavier6037

    @xavier6037

    4 жыл бұрын

    StopAndListen “The day is ours!”

  • @jdog7797

    @jdog7797

    4 жыл бұрын

    *Basically any given day in a Roman LEGION*

  • @thedirty530
    @thedirty5302 жыл бұрын

    This was fantastic! I really felt the momentum and flow of the battle. Those sarissa's were something else! They got a psychological factor too! It must have taken quite a bit of work! 👏

  • @elkiton
    @elkiton4 жыл бұрын

    First time I have seen your show...it is absolutely excellent and the graphics bring the battle to life with time for thought about the tactics in use. Well done you !

  • @Kalidoscope1230
    @Kalidoscope12306 жыл бұрын

    That tribune better've gotten a raise if not a promotion for initiative...

  • @ismo122

    @ismo122

    6 жыл бұрын

    MVP

  • @josephoutram

    @josephoutram

    6 жыл бұрын

    clutched it for the team

  • @LionZ_

    @LionZ_

    6 жыл бұрын

    Since he is mentioned in the sources, and made it to the history report. We can surely say that he was mentioned to the senate and army leaders.

  • @DieGoetterdaemmerung

    @DieGoetterdaemmerung

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think decimatus was only applied if a unit fled the battlefield or showed cowardice since it was a punishment for the entire unit. If the Tribune was not following orders he would be punished, not his soldiers that usually had no idea what the Legate was doing anyways.

  • @wickiei4556

    @wickiei4556

    6 жыл бұрын

    As far is i recall, tribunes and centurions were given great freedom on the battlefield on their advances/movement after the inital push, as long as they didn´t retreat. This is to improve the effectivness of the manipeltactis as the commander of the manipels have a better overview of whats happening in front of them and can give their order more easily. But I´m not sure, if thats true, so take it with a grain of salt. AFAIK Invicta said that in his video about the triplex acies, deployed in that time

  • @mylesgarcia4625
    @mylesgarcia46255 жыл бұрын

    I love your whole animated depiction of the battle -- the formations, the timing, the natural conditions, etc., etc. Really quite a SUPERB job!!

  • @neilgriffiths6427
    @neilgriffiths6427 Жыл бұрын

    new to channel, loved it, gave the reasons it happened, the tactics - and the music was properly martial - subbed, hope this channel illuminates more of the battle of ancient history like this!

  • @blakeprocter5818
    @blakeprocter58184 жыл бұрын

    This is actually really, really cool. Having the visual aid makes it a lot more engaging and informative than simply reading about the battle and trying (and often failing in my case) to visualise it in your head. Great job on it Syntagma. Would love to see more of these.

  • @davidknight2104
    @davidknight21045 жыл бұрын

    Wow this was ace! Very well set out and it's amazing the amount of views this video has, it's great to see so many people still care about history.

  • @pagancenturion94
    @pagancenturion945 жыл бұрын

    This was superbly put together,I really enjoyed this, great job!

  • @salesguy1208
    @salesguy1208 Жыл бұрын

    I've been watching the same thing videos over and over I like them so much. I love the format and everything about it. Please, please, please, make more. And I understand maybe one of the big battles from the gallic war.

  • @Antagonistika
    @Antagonistika3 жыл бұрын

    The Invention of "King of the Hill" 197 B.C., colorized

  • @mazeppa1231

    @mazeppa1231

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice!

  • @cptfourleaf6354
    @cptfourleaf63546 жыл бұрын

    I am honestly impressed with the presentation here. I really hope that more content like this occur in the future. Fantastic work!

  • @Redoralive
    @Redoralive6 жыл бұрын

    We need reinforcements. SEND MORE TRIANGLES!

  • @rushikeshawatade411

    @rushikeshawatade411

    4 жыл бұрын

    And rectangles too...😂

  • @natebit8130

    @natebit8130

    4 жыл бұрын

    I get the reference XD

  • @rogersledz6793
    @rogersledz67932 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!

  • @Unknown-jt1jo
    @Unknown-jt1jo6 ай бұрын

    Great video! Super-helpful visualization of the battle. I've read "Legion versus Phalanx," a book that describes this battle at length, but this is the first time I can visualize the battle clearly.

  • @SinerAthin
    @SinerAthin6 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video and superb representation. The flowing 3D presentation allows us to gain a visual understanding of the events and the battle far beyond what pure text or even some pictures would let us.

  • @danielelsom9259
    @danielelsom92596 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely amazing and would love more videos showing similar content about tactics.

  • @Rockstopmotion
    @Rockstopmotion4 жыл бұрын

    RIP all the soldiers who fought and died defending or conquering

  • @captaindonut5240

    @captaindonut5240

    3 жыл бұрын

    They who watched this KZread video salute you

  • @spiffygonzales5899

    @spiffygonzales5899

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm a year later but thanks for not being that guy like "omg, this side was dumb for not doing xyz" or going "this side good guys this side bad guys" And... R.i.p to the dead

  • @matteoarzani2564

    @matteoarzani2564

    3 жыл бұрын

    They're lookin us from up there 🤧 (no actually they're dead, they're dust, they're what they weren't before birth: nothing; as we all will be)

  • @jessegauthier6985

    @jessegauthier6985

    3 жыл бұрын

    @The Anonymous Lemon Prick

  • @xilpes6254

    @xilpes6254

    2 жыл бұрын

    The soldiers be like: who asked bro??? It's been ages bruh

  • @ryall1673
    @ryall16733 жыл бұрын

    Great work with the quality, I really enjoyed this video.

  • @Agonis100
    @Agonis1006 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic visuals! The 3d perspective clearly reveals how the terrain influenced the decision making. Just subbed! Keep it coming! 😁

  • @Syntagma

    @Syntagma

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you, will do :)

  • @napoleontas3072

    @napoleontas3072

    6 жыл бұрын

    Just subbed! Are you using after effects?

  • @esamunaeebsaad389
    @esamunaeebsaad3895 жыл бұрын

    I'm a history geek and a lover of organised battle tactics. I'm really saddened and feeling sorry that I didn't find your channel earlier. I've been watching battle tactics for years and really, your visual interpretation of the battle was one of the best i've seen so far. To me, modern battle tactics are best interpreted by Eastory and untill now, Kings and generals & Baz battles held the best previous age battle Interpretations. This one was great, I'm looking forward to watch more of your works.

  • @pavel9652
    @pavel96523 жыл бұрын

    What a great video! It is a relatively simple animation, but intense music makes the whole thing enjoyable learning experience ;)

  • @jaswarning
    @jaswarning2 жыл бұрын

    This was epic AND awesome, thank you!

  • @DrunkenXSMonkey
    @DrunkenXSMonkey5 жыл бұрын

    A phalanx is extremely effective in head on assaults and holding the line, provided your battle line is longer than your opponents or you can bottleneck them. The legions however require little set up or placement like a phalanx does and are more versatile. But crumble against a strong defence or offense. If a phalanx is flanked or not long enough it can be routed easily.

  • @phobics9498

    @phobics9498

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah the phalanx is very formation dependent- which was exploited with the yet unformed phalanx of Philip, rather immobile and most importantly inflexible. The unability of the phalanx to respond to flanking maneuvers and their increased susceptibility to them due to only being able to fight in one direction was their primary weakness.

  • @karter969

    @karter969

    Жыл бұрын

    Big call saying the legion would crumble under a strong defence or offence. One of the premier qualities of the legion was that it could fight all day.. Romes heavy infantry was literally the best in the world

  • @kamikaziking

    @kamikaziking

    Жыл бұрын

    @@karter969 well looks like the parthians never got that memo

  • @karter969

    @karter969

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kamikaziking I think that’s more of a fault of Crassus, rather than a flaw in the design of the legion. Sure you can cherry pick one loss here and there but look at Rome’s overall win/loss ratio and tell me otherwise

  • @kamikaziking

    @kamikaziking

    Жыл бұрын

    @@karter969 if only they lost in carrahe sure but they lost several times and the wars resulted in a stalemate

  • @marsthedoomer4535
    @marsthedoomer45356 жыл бұрын

    I’m so happy this randomly popped up in my recommendations. You have a new sub.

  • @seppllseppll4517

    @seppllseppll4517

    6 жыл бұрын

    Same here :)

  • @victorrojaspardaian7695
    @victorrojaspardaian76954 жыл бұрын

    Excelente!!! buen ilustrado, bien narrado y fondo músical apropiado. Me mantuvo a la expectativa todo el tiempo y aprendí. Gracias. Me suscribo.

  • @NoMercyXtreme
    @NoMercyXtreme3 жыл бұрын

    This video was so damn well done. Good job.

  • @jonathanberumen9573
    @jonathanberumen95735 жыл бұрын

    This was a really great video with some awesome visuals! I have seen this battle portrayed many times but this is something different. It really gives you a sense of how the battle was won with the maniples of Rome versus the phalanx of Phillip. More videos like this please! I can't get enough of later Republican/ early Imperial Roman times!

  • @emiliojusticia2425
    @emiliojusticia24256 жыл бұрын

    Loved it man, you gained a like and a sub. Keep up the good work!

  • @joaopaes3347
    @joaopaes33473 жыл бұрын

    Great job, thanks for the content!

  • @ashhempsall9803
    @ashhempsall980311 ай бұрын

    I was gripped from beginning to end! On 75% speed is awesome 🐈‍⬛ Subbed

  • @anthonyc7279
    @anthonyc72796 жыл бұрын

    Charged to the back; a favored tactics that most who play Total War series will be familiar with.

  • @EruWan_Ernest

    @EruWan_Ernest

    6 жыл бұрын

    I always charge my winged hussars at the muskets and cannons barrels. What a glorious death they meet.

  • @42024247514

    @42024247514

    5 жыл бұрын

    SHAMEFUR DISPRAY !

  • @jonathanallard2128

    @jonathanallard2128

    5 жыл бұрын

    ''I always charge my winged hussars at the muskets and cannons barrels. What a glorious death they meet'' Iron Maiden made a song about one of your horses being sent to die against a wall of enemy muskets and cannons. It's called The Trooper.

  • @TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4

    @TexasViking_INFP-t_5w4

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@lopatou_ovalil7361 corner camping will be your death v me

  • @everythinggoodsfeckingtaken

    @everythinggoodsfeckingtaken

    5 жыл бұрын

    Flanking/encircling is everything. That and chasing down the rout with light cavalry because I'll be buggered if I am seeing that unit coming back in a later battle

  • @Happylogo1
    @Happylogo16 жыл бұрын

    a simple concept but executed perfectly well done, great work!

  • @williamwebb25
    @williamwebb254 жыл бұрын

    Hope the quick thinking tribune got rewarded. Great vid - never would have thought this style could be so gripping!

  • @Gaurigs
    @Gaurigs2 жыл бұрын

    These videos are brilliantly done.

  • @whizzdom6923
    @whizzdom69236 жыл бұрын

    fantastic presentation well done .far more comprehensive than the "fog of war" you get from reading from a book .

  • @keithsymons5708
    @keithsymons57084 жыл бұрын

    The phalanx was supposed to work in tandem with the cavalry and the light infantry if Alexander had been the commander in chief the battle might have had a very different outcome

  • @neutronalchemist3241

    @neutronalchemist3241

    4 жыл бұрын

    By 197 BC anyone knew the trick. To have a dominant cavalry is not a given, it's not like the others don't know horses.

  • @Leafgreen1976

    @Leafgreen1976

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's like saying, if they had guns it would be a totally different outcome.

  • @user-ch1qv4qk4z

    @user-ch1qv4qk4z

    4 жыл бұрын

    Its hard to stop elephants and heavy infantry all at once even with phalanx

  • @zeriyx

    @zeriyx

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Onemanarmylol Lol one of the reasons rome abandoned the phalanx was because of its rigid structure coupled with italy's rough terrain. rome's italic neighbors inflicted heavy losses on rome early in its history. it's hard to say which was better because many medieval armies subsequently essentially used phalanxes and found enormous success. many of the persian armies that faced alexander cleared the battlefield of obstacles so their chariots would be more effective, which is honestly the worst thing you can do when facing a phalanx.

  • @jeremycormier8559

    @jeremycormier8559

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Onemanarmylol Lol Alexander won most battles with a decisive cavalry charge which he personally led, The phalanx is only a good anvil if you have a good hammer.

  • @markhayworth1617
    @markhayworth16172 жыл бұрын

    Very well done loved the suspense up to the end great penultimate!!! 😃

  • @devindestroyer5315
    @devindestroyer53153 жыл бұрын

    The troops on the left side of the battle at 10:13 "Sooooo... We cool?" "Yeah we cool"

  • @schwarzeseis4031

    @schwarzeseis4031

    2 жыл бұрын

    My thought about this is that they were mutually threatening each others' positions so that it seemed whoever moved first would lose. Or they were at a stalemate. Or maybe this was just an oversight in the narration, but things like this happen.

  • @sarblader
    @sarblader6 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video, great animations. Amazing!

  • @danielcassa3500
    @danielcassa35006 жыл бұрын

    Subbed rigth now! Awesom video!

  • @realPromotememedia
    @realPromotememedia3 жыл бұрын

    That is a really good explanation in overview much appreciated, thanks

  • @rickbiessman6084
    @rickbiessman60842 жыл бұрын

    This makes me want to play Rome: Total War SO BAD!!! Awesome work.

  • @jayeisenhardt1337

    @jayeisenhardt1337

    2 жыл бұрын

    Watching some high level gameplay or just seeing how people go about it online with meta in any game you can see how some just have a different understanding of things. I found out I'm just a grunt focused on the skill of the fight in front of me while others so far back thinking logistics to bleed a person out before they even meet to fight. Not even strats or tactics they way back seeing the value in everything and what they can trade and deny. Learning when the moment to strike or defend is based on economy and making sure to get there first while stuffing all the opportunities they can for the enemy. Resources. Like the simple saying, "an army marches on it's stomach."

  • @LandersWorkshop
    @LandersWorkshop5 жыл бұрын

    Love the pumping, pounding music of destiny and daring deeds. Nice work!

  • @Syntagma

    @Syntagma

    5 жыл бұрын

    thank you

  • @noihsok8055
    @noihsok80556 жыл бұрын

    Wow, probably the best video I've ever seen explaining a battle like this! Nice! I can't wait to check the rest of your channel! Plus a sub :3

  • @noihsok8055

    @noihsok8055

    6 жыл бұрын

    Oh new KZreadr and already 10k subs with just 3 vids, nice!

  • @Syntagma

    @Syntagma

    6 жыл бұрын

    yeap, that exceeded our expectations too :)

  • 4 жыл бұрын

    "Phalanx is unbeatable" Romans: Hold my beer.

  • @diomes695

    @diomes695

    4 жыл бұрын

    "Unbeatable with Alexander the Great"

  • @pablogats4627

    @pablogats4627

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ankjok Ming fuck no

  • @yelyharmony2047

    @yelyharmony2047

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Ankjok Ming When Alexander the great was alive conquering and beating the shit out of everything and everyone Rome had been founded for over 400 years already...they had had all their 7 kings already and they were a republic by then and conquered territories...and still I never heard that Romans dared to mess with Alexander while he was doing his thing...NOBODY DID!...So...NO!

  • @hipsteryouth3753

    @hipsteryouth3753

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@yelyharmony2047 lol alexander only conquer east when the roman was conquering east and west sides

  • @yelyharmony2047

    @yelyharmony2047

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@hipsteryouth3753 Alexander conquered in Africa in Asia and in Europe...Obviously couldn't extend more because he died suddenly and his importance was obviously noted after his death. I don't know how the fuck the cardinal points or directions work in your chicken brain. Let me repeat it for you...ASIA, EUROPE AND AFRICA! In Rome they never depended on one single man...emperor after emperor continued expanding and conquering until one of them decided it was enough!...in Greece only Alexander dared to do that...all the others before and after him were fighting defensively! Study more... you're sounding and looking like a total ignorant!

  • @jacksonreboot9471
    @jacksonreboot9471 Жыл бұрын

    It’s the greatest battle of triangles and rectangles ever. Love the videos. It reminds me of playing games on the computer that had to be loaded with disc.

  • @yourcheapdate4564
    @yourcheapdate45644 жыл бұрын

    just discovered the channel, beautiful! Your graphics are fantastic. If it could be combined with the individual biographical information for the combatants from invicta and the incremental real time damage hueristics from baz battles I could live in that world! Great work!

  • @ScipioWasHere
    @ScipioWasHere6 жыл бұрын

    Wow, soldiers back then strongly resembled triangles and quadrilaterals.

  • @ikr9358

    @ikr9358

    6 жыл бұрын

    It was a different time, back then.

  • @ProphetChuck8471

    @ProphetChuck8471

    6 жыл бұрын

    A culture shock indeed.

  • @tommydoez

    @tommydoez

    6 жыл бұрын

    Back in my day, we soldiers had shapes, we had points! What are soldiers nowadays? A bunch of meatbags.

  • @bernielordofcynder182

    @bernielordofcynder182

    6 жыл бұрын

    Took lots of protein and exercise to get a figure like that

  • @corcolinos

    @corcolinos

    6 жыл бұрын

    yes they were in good shape indeed :D

  • @basteqss8859
    @basteqss88594 жыл бұрын

    8:38 The moment you hold your breath. Love this animation. Thank you for made it! ;)

  • @Butterfly-uv5ye

    @Butterfly-uv5ye

    2 жыл бұрын

    Must of been incredibly scary to the Roman army, but they succeeded!

  • @Digmen1
    @Digmen13 жыл бұрын

    I've only watched 2 minutes so far, but this is technically brilliant. Well done sir

  • @eldorados_lost_searcher
    @eldorados_lost_searcher6 жыл бұрын

    I just stumbled on your channel, and I have to compliment you on your animation and general presentation. Keep up the good work, and if you need help with your scripts' grammar, I'd be happy to help. Subbed.

  • @Syntagma

    @Syntagma

    6 жыл бұрын

    thanks a lot man, welcome to the channel :)

  • @redacted3557
    @redacted35576 жыл бұрын

    I craved for months to find a video that explains how a legion and phalanx would bare againest each other.

  • @TheLordboki

    @TheLordboki

    6 жыл бұрын

    Same. I've had issues in dealing with the phalanx in Rome 2: Total War. Bait, disrupt, encircle and destroy.

  • @aclock2

    @aclock2

    6 жыл бұрын

    Really ? I love playing against Phalanx unless it's a siege battle. Just throw cheap ass infantry in front of them while the elites go around flanking.

  • @Warmaker01

    @Warmaker01

    6 жыл бұрын

    By the time of this engagement, the Macedonian style of warfare had come to dominate the Hellenic world. All the Successor Kingdoms after Alexander the Great followed this format of warfare, with some tweaks here and their for their kingdoms. Head on and with a proper battle line maintained, the Macedonian Phalanx was extremely tough. But once you get around that, or it gets disrupted, there's trouble. In Alexander the Great's day, he had a powerful cavalry force to safeguard those flanks, powerful enough to be the decisive arm of a battle. I think the Successors lost that as they put a heavier emphasis on infantry while for various reasons, they had less and less cavalry that Alexander had.

  • @ShortHandedNow

    @ShortHandedNow

    6 жыл бұрын

    You hit the nail on the head. Alexander's Companion cavalry in tandem with his Phalanx formations was what made it so formidable on the battlefield.

  • @chikifco

    @chikifco

    6 жыл бұрын

    add me to play rome 2 for those who plays, :|[ApX]|:_Chikifco

  • @off_mah_lawn2074
    @off_mah_lawn20743 жыл бұрын

    I remember this battle fro The History of Rome podcast, it is awesome to see now in person!!

  • @christopherjames836
    @christopherjames8364 жыл бұрын

    Great video, well done! Like the music. :)

  • @raiderius_
    @raiderius_5 жыл бұрын

    this video in particular is your magnum opus keep it up no voice overs!!! only purely epic music!! this style of videography is what sets you apart....

  • @guilhermecolichini
    @guilhermecolichini6 жыл бұрын

    Amazing work! You gained a subscriber :)

  • @markmuldoon805
    @markmuldoon805 Жыл бұрын

    Nicely done, well animated.

  • @Gamabunta90
    @Gamabunta904 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful video! I miss something like that when I was a younger student at the College. Would you have in mind to make some video about Pyrrhus and their campaings in Italy? It would be great!

  • @beroecaaaa
    @beroecaaaa6 жыл бұрын

    wow great stuff, I love the graphics and the details building up to the battle. if you can get anyone to voice that for you, it would be awesome as well

  • @rmfcity
    @rmfcity6 жыл бұрын

    This is an awesome video!! Worthy of the Time where History Channel was talking about history rather than truckers and aliens. I especially loved the part where you put the increasing political tensions that led to the battle. Wars always happen for a reason and battles are the conclusion of those political tensions.

  • @mattgoodmangoodmanlawnmowi2454

    @mattgoodmangoodmanlawnmowi2454

    6 жыл бұрын

    Re: Political tensions leading to the battle: von Clausewitz famously is quoted as saying that war is diplomacy continued by other means. (/s/ Matt's dad, blame me for complaints, not him)

  • @Leo137156
    @Leo1371563 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I have seen it many times. So simple, but so good. I love brief, well-made videos like this. Who has 20 or 30 minutes to learn what can be shown in 5? Thanks.

  • @timzxc08
    @timzxc082 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video, thanks!

  • @qiaonasen3559
    @qiaonasen35596 жыл бұрын

    good job really nice video i will share this with my teammates

  • @zrusit9640
    @zrusit96406 жыл бұрын

    wonderful, it is really nice that there is animation because i could not really imagine it very well when i was reading book about this battle. thank you very much

  • @Syntagma

    @Syntagma

    6 жыл бұрын

    thank you man, matters a lot to us :)

  • @marcusgodioso277

    @marcusgodioso277

    5 жыл бұрын

    zrušit there is a game called rome total war 2.check it out

  • @zrusit9640

    @zrusit9640

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I know I like that game but I have not bought it yet but I will someday most likelly

  • @teoteous
    @teoteous4 жыл бұрын

    It's nice that so many channels use the same music. It makes it feel like many channels feel like one single massive entity.

  • @davids.8509
    @davids.8509 Жыл бұрын

    I can only imagine what it was like to live your life as a royal hostage, great video the music really adds to the storytelling.

  • @khurshidernazarov809
    @khurshidernazarov8096 жыл бұрын

    Really amazing work, breath taking step by step explanation, wish you to keep on such quality

  • @giammira
    @giammira5 жыл бұрын

    Scelta musicale perfetta, ottima grafica ed esposizione. I subscribed

  • @hawaiianbrother7465
    @hawaiianbrother74652 жыл бұрын

    EXCELLENT Graphics---loved it!

  • @lewisclark5694
    @lewisclark56944 жыл бұрын

    Very well explained. Thank you.

  • @tvalencia
    @tvalencia6 жыл бұрын

    GREAT! WILL WATCH AGAIN!

  • @Julius_Dayne
    @Julius_Dayne6 жыл бұрын

    Man, this was a fantastic video, no need for someone ti explain the battle if everything is written this way. Congrats very very cool video

  • @lukedufaur5368
    @lukedufaur5368 Жыл бұрын

    If anyone's interested, there's a game called "A Legionary's Life" which chronicles this military campaign against Philip of Macedon in it's final third. The battle of Cynoscephalae serves as the game's climax and it's fittingly nearly impossible to "win" against the Macedonian phalanx like you can against the Carthaginian and Macedonian irregulars you face earlier in the game. It's quite a nice historical introduction to both this campaign and the Second Punic War, offering a perspective from a common soldier as well as a strategic narrative.