I'm a visual learner, this has helped me so much! Thank you for this, you did great explaining gap shooting. My son has the instinctual shooting down pack. He doesn't even have to try. I, myself, have been getting frustrated cause my arrows always hit about 9-12 inches above where I'm aiming. I'm looking forward to trying this tomorrow!

Just started archery and im looking to find what form of archery i am comfortable with. This video is brilliant and so helpful. Thank you for putting it up, Billy T.

Great basic gap info. Gives one a good insight into what can be done with some gap knowledge.

Nice video. Interesting quiver and loading.

Good plain and simple techno, very easy to follow

Thanks Jim. Appreciate it.

I would suggest that you explain your “aim” that is are you using your arrow tip as your point of aim? Is your gap the space between arrow tip and desired point of impact or do you use another system?

Interesting info..and good shooting..

Great video Jim! Another great way for new archers to learn and groove in the idea of gap shooting is to shoot at a large plus sign on the target. You can use duct tape. Your goal is the center of the plus, remembering that if you creep to high in your anchor your will shoot left....too low you will shoot right. Finding the sweet spot in your personal anchor will remove the left and rights and keep you consistent on the vertical line. Your high and low shots is where your gaps come in. Through repetition your gaps will become second nature and the need for visual calculation will become less and less.

@jimwalkerarchery

6 жыл бұрын

"Through repetition your gaps will become second nature and the need for visual calculation will become less and less..." Said with far better eloquence than I can muster.

Very good. I don't gap shoot myself but will share this with a few people who do. Good job

@jimwalkerarchery

6 жыл бұрын

If you shoot instinctive, you are just gap shooting subconsciously. This 5-10-15-20 hard method just gives your brain "true" information. It can only make your brain a better archer. Once you got your true gap this way you may be amazed to find your accuracy improves faster "instinctively". I used to string walk and won 1st place in quite a few tournaments but I found the process relies too much on nearly perfect range estimation accuracy. Not so easy on a 3D course with the target up a grade with undulating terrain between. This really bothered me. I missed so many 3D targets because I misjudged the exact range that my string walking technique required. So I've gone back to the more traditional approach shown in the video. I'm still shooting 30/70 instinctively, in that why guess, when you can train your brain to understand accuracy, which can only reduce the training time of a purely instinctive archer. As I'm running around the target and shooting, do you really think I'm pointing at exactly the number of inches below the target . No, that's instinctive shooting based on reality, and less on guessing.

@RiverbendlongbowsOutdoors

6 жыл бұрын

Jim Walker exactly 👍

Excelent video. thanks for it

Awesome.

Thanks good job

Just the info I was looking for....so essentially you can learn to hold 8 inches or so under and be good to go hunting wise out to 20 yards it looks like.

@jimwalkerarchery

6 жыл бұрын

Depends on your bow and weight of the arrows you use. Trial and error as described in this video is the only way you'll know what your physcical gap is respectively. As you get better you'll stop thinking about gap-this method is an aid for instinctive shooters.

Likely why instinctive "works" once you train a distance that muscle memory will carry you thought so so many shots you wind up taking.

Thanks for the good video Jim. I am an instinctive shooter but would like to try gap ,however I have a question. Siting downhill you explained very well, but what do I do for a target that's up a hillside, does gravity come into the equation? Do I have to alter the gap? Cheers

@JimsworldSanDiego

Ай бұрын

Most definitely, it will be trial and error; it greatly depends on your draw weight, angle, arrow weight, et al.

@davidkenyon249

Ай бұрын

Thanks for the reply, I'll work on it.

Very good Video, thanks a lot. Do you shoot whith both eyes opend? And with the Index Finger corner of the mouth?

@jimwalkerarchery

5 жыл бұрын

Both eyes open and thumb position set below eye below cheek bone.

interesting stuff this archery

@jeff9242

4 жыл бұрын

im guessing it may be better than fudge packing

Great video Jim! I'm shooting a Hoyt satori with 34 lb SF carbon ilf limbs. I want to go to 40 - 42ish lbs. What are you shooting and would you recommend them? Thanks.

@jimwalkerarchery

5 жыл бұрын

34-pound draw weight is a nearly perfect weight so I wouldn't be so quick to upgrade to 40+ pounds draw wise. I'm shooting a Hoyt Satori off the shelf with Hex Limbs at about 42ish pounds. The only reason I haven't dropped my poundage is due to my not looking forward to a 3 month arrow tuning process-again (for the 4th time in the past few years). I enjoy tuning like the next guy, but it can get tedious (not to mention expensive). So get your shot process down solid with that awesome gear you have now. And don't let anyone tell you that a more expensive bow or limbs will make you a better shooter. Rock that!

@kenwilliams2219

5 жыл бұрын

@@jimwalkerarchery thanks for getting back to me. I think you're right about the equipment. I shoot the 34 lbs pretty good, just seemed like the next step is to go heavier. I shoot 3d bare bow in local leagues here in Utah and have silver medaled the last 2 years at world senior games in southern utah. And like you said for that 34 is right in the sweet spot. Thank you again.

@jimwalkerarchery

5 жыл бұрын

@@kenwilliams2219 Unless your 3d club is pushing their targets out past 40 yards, 34lbs to 38lbs is a sweet spot. If you find some cheap 38-pound limbs to try or borrow, I would say try that out before pushing out to 40+ pound draw weights. A lighter arrow on a 34-pound draw is going to fly just as nice as a 40-pound draw heavier weight arrow . So keep an eye out for someone with a similar draw weight as yours who shoots VAP arrows and try those out to get a feel for the benefits of going "skinny".

@kenwilliams2219

5 жыл бұрын

@@jimwalkerarchery great advice. Thank you! Looking forward to your next video.

@jimwalkerarchery

5 жыл бұрын

@@kenwilliams2219 I have a script written - but never seem to get enough time to get to the range to roll the camera... One day soon.

Well good video, but in gap shooting and all other field archery you have to be good at determining distance, and in field conditions you have to accurately determine in inches how far from the center up or down where you're going to aim and at various sized targets up and down hill. Two thing you need to be pretty good at. In string walking you only have to as accurately as you can, the distance to the target and count the string or use whatever to measure the distance from the bottom of the arrow. Lets say 10 to 15 yards it's always going to be for you a finger width or a finger and a half. Gap you need to estimate two distances and string walking only one. But in either case developing the skill to accurately judging distances.

@jimwalkerarchery

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I was a "string walker" for the past couple of years. And before that, I was a fixed crawl guy. That said, my personal focus has switched to a faster, on the move, more traditional approach and away from fumbling with counting threads-which calls back to my somewhat tongue in cheeky other video, "What Type of Archer Do You Want to Be?" kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z2uu2dqJmavgnbA.html

@BennyCFD

6 жыл бұрын

I personally don't count strings my self either. I just have developed using finger width. For example at a given distance it's a whole finger width or a finger and a half. I'ts much easier and faster. A lot of competition barebow archers use marks on their pads which is pretty quick and much more finely tuned. Recently When I practice Half the time I've been trying to learn instinctive shooting and my usual method. thanks for your reply and input.

Nice ! But does it still work on 30 degree up hill or down hill shots ?

@jimwalkerarchery

Жыл бұрын

Trial and error... since poundage of your bow, length of arrow, et al, will effect up/down level shooting angle.

How do you improvise in order to shoot target archery...where you can't mark your gaps on the target face? How do you relate the gap distance on the target face to the peripheral vision distance relative to your arrow tip at your bow?

@jimwalkerarchery

5 жыл бұрын

Learning gap shooting is a preliminary skill, helpful in solving one part of the aiming process. You can figure that out in a logical manner (as shown in the video). Range estimation is an altogether different skill and requires practice-practice-practice.

@mikhailfong6234

5 жыл бұрын

@@jimwalkerarchery thanks Jim. Really appreciate it. Your instructions are clear and precise. Balancing shooting practices and work is kinda hard for me... well there are no shortcuts...like you said...practice..practice...by the way, if one use string walking is the 'gap' from the nock the same as the 'gap' from the tip to the gold looking from the bow?

@jimwalkerarchery

5 жыл бұрын

@@mikhailfong6234 String walking and Gap are different techniques. One does not necessarily apply to the other. String walking substitutes your visual "Gap" for a written virtually "mark" on the bowstring.* * And when I mean written, I'm referring to a place on the string relative to the distance being shot. Unlike Gap, which is more instinctive, String Walking relies even more heavily on your knowing the exact range to your target.

When you say point are you talking about tip of the arrow?

@jimwalkerarchery

6 жыл бұрын

Correcto.

At 20 yards, your group was closer to the 6" than the 9" mark, but you say it's 9" inches. It's clearly more like 7" .

Jim, I'm sorry but this gap method makes no sense to me.

@jimwalkerarchery

5 жыл бұрын

I hear ya. I had a hard time when I first started as well. I probably watched a 1/2 dozen videos before it made sense to me. For another perspective on gap shooting, search on KZread for: jimmy blackmon archery gap

@GINGERGARY1

5 жыл бұрын

Me too, my arrows like to go where I aim them

@nookymonster1

Жыл бұрын

Its easy just aim a foot from where you want to hit. No thanks.

Who gives a crap about the plastic bottle... you have to aim 9 inch low, no matter what