Thank you. Your explanation is excellent and can't be more clearer. I think your demo is so important to clarify what constitutes the right way to coil, which many other KZread sailors are showing the wrong way albeit well intended.

@BottomUPBoats

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by and and glad you found it useful. Everyday is a school day, and comments like this inspire us to do more. Please like and share with others who might find it useful, this helps this great platform get the word out and about with some of the well intended experts :)

im 40 and ive been coiling chords wrong my entire life....i owe you a beer...cheers

@BottomUPBoats

8 ай бұрын

I am always up for a beer and a chat about 40 years of sailing experience. If you are ever in Belfast drop us a line, it would be great to catch up and have a cold one.

Yo. Wtf. I dont work with ropes anymore. But co2 and water hoses. Cant wait to try this tomorrow.

@BottomUPBoats

2 ай бұрын

Hoses can have similar twist principles so may benefit from this. Interested to see how you get on

I was taught the loop way as a kid but I understood later that was for old twisted type line…not braided like we have now

@BottomUPBoats

2 ай бұрын

💯same story for me growing up hence the video 👍

Great video, well explained. Thank you.

@BottomUPBoats

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome !

Nicely described!

@BottomUPBoats

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Will certainly give this a go!

@BottomUPBoats

2 жыл бұрын

Once you do I am sure you will start to enjoy a twist free time on the water.

Good video!

@BottomUPBoats

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by and for the feedback 👍👍

Well done good job, 👍

@BottomUPBoats

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by and engaging 👍

Brilliant,, thanks. Been having this issue a lot recently. Its also a great method for coiling halyards for exactly the same reasons.

@BottomUPBoats

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped, you may want to check out this video for longer lengths of rope. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o4d2rplyaJu_gKg.html

@killerfitz84

Жыл бұрын

@@BottomUPBoats great.. looks handy for a 100ft halyard alright..

@BottomUPBoats

Жыл бұрын

@@killerfitz84 the perfect use case !

Cheers Mate.

@BottomUPBoats

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for stopping by, glad you liked the Demo.

It’s all about the details!

@BottomUPBoats

3 жыл бұрын

It is indeed, take care of the little things and the big things will fall into place :)

Bravo! Bravo!! Bravo!!! 👏👍❤️

@BottomUPBoats

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for stopping by, glad you liked it !!!!

Super cool, thx ! On our side, we usually coil the ropes around the winchs, doing the 8-figure like you manually do. I don't know if it has the same "effect" as doing it manually like you.

@BottomUPBoats

4 жыл бұрын

You are spot on with your approach. The same things happens when coiling halyards around winches. If you do loops not figure of 8's you will end up kinks which will prevent your sails from going up or down easily. I will have to do another video to point this out !!!!

You spend 3:30 of a 5:40 video showing how to do it wrong, and then you rush through doing it right. The hand positions are what's critical. Don't worry, this is the 4th or 5th video I've seen that either shows wrong as right, or spends more time showing wrong as wrong and then rushes through right as right. In one video the right hand is out of the frame. (Sorry to be such a crank, I just don't want to show up on deck on day one doing it wrong.) The brain receives only positive messages. This is why someone telling you 'that's wrong' just makes you hate the person. And showing someone what not to do only teaches them what not to do. You love grandma because she's been around long enough to not bother with wrong, she just shows you the right way. While practicing at home without a block I've found that dropping the 'coiled' line then making a loop with my left and and pulling the line through I can see if I'm still forming those binding loops. I'm not forming loops, but I'm still not sure if my hand positions coiling figure 8s are efficient. Hope this helps.

@BottomUPBoats

3 жыл бұрын

WillN2Go1 not a problem, feedback "IS A Gift" which can be really powerful if you take the time to use it. I am a sailor first, as I got older I learnt that I like to teach. The two had a need to work together when I went from Dinghy's sailing where two people knew exactly what they where doing as had sailed together for over a decade to yachts which often had different crew of 8 every week. This lead to what is a growing passion of sharing my sailing experience on You Tube which is a new set of skills which I have a lot of room for improvement with. I have a long way to go with Camera angles, sound, lighting and everything else which goes with producing a perfect informational video. I agree I could have done a better job with this one. I struggle to explain this one as the camera is back to front (not looking the same way as the viewer as I do in my knot videos), this makes hard for me to get the correct words to match the actions. I will think of a better way to do this going forward, trying to focus on the positive or right thing to do... Every teachers job is to inspire people to learn more them help them achieve it, your feedback tells me you want to learn this skill so you get it right on deck and have the knowledge to explain your actions if a salty old see dog tells you that you are doing it wrong :). Hopefully this helps, left or right handed starting to the left or right with your coils makes no different, as long as you find the natural twist in the rope then continue to go the same way you will be fine, this will be easier to find in new rope as it will not have been stretched or trained out of the rope, old or new you should still be able to find it by slowly completing you first coil watch which way the rope goes. You can then adjust your hand position to make subsequent coils flow in the same direction. To increase your knowledge further I would recommend the following video, while the rope is folded rather than coiled he explains the rational very well which is the key for me in making the right way to do it second nature. kzread.info/dash/bejne/emGHpdath72pmMY.html

done this with the main halyard on catamarans and can attest that it doesn’t jam, and cat mains drop FAST

@BottomUPBoats

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, looks strange but what many people don't realise is that modern ropes come with the twist built in so you need follow this method to avoid jams.

Clock wise please. Both examples you coiled anticlockwise.

@BottomUPBoats

4 жыл бұрын

I had not been taught to follow a specific direction. What are the benefits of a clockwise coil ?

@dongarnier5890

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's a northern versus southern hemisphere thing? ;^D

@SailingJasine

3 жыл бұрын

Clockwise for good weather and anticlockwise for bad weather. Unless you're in the southern hemisphere.

@TheTugtastic

2 жыл бұрын

@@BottomUPBoats clockwise coil follows the natural pattern of braid and stops it snagging up in a pulley like in your first example.

@samhansen9771

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheTugtastic very interesting. Does that that hold true for plain laid rope etc.?

Who cares about the wrong way

@BottomUPBoats

2 жыл бұрын

People who have been lead to think it is the right way ?

@alastaircurrie5396

Жыл бұрын

@@BottomUPBoats However, decades off oiling the way you state is wrong has not resulted in the problem you describe. I agree about the kink forming but you work that from the standing part to the running part as you twist the rope just before completing the coil in the hand. The twist rolls the kink along the rope which flicks out at the running end. It is not wrong to coil a rope like I describe, but it can be coiled wrongly. Figure of eight and flaking rope still requires care as both methods can induce kink. In fact, figure of eight and cause the coils to get tied together as the rope runs. No way is perfect, but all ways need to be done properly.

@BottomUPBoats

Жыл бұрын

@@alastaircurrie5396 putting the twist in as you described is another way to prevent the kinks. Personally I find this harder to do - teach especially for long sheets or halyards. This method takes the thinking out of it for longer lengths. kzread.info/dash/bejne/o4d2rplyaJu_gKg.html

@janenmarelia

4 ай бұрын

The one that has to untangle that mess wondering why his fellow (trainee) sailor did not notice coiling the line was very hard to do when you are going the wrong way. And i am a bosun, I know what I am talking about.

You lost me at rope

@BottomUPBoats

6 күн бұрын

Sorry to hear that, I am guessing the sailors who use rope not line stayed around longer.

@Cacheola

6 күн бұрын

@@BottomUPBoats There's only a few ropes on a modern cruiser... tiller rope, tow rope, bell rope. I take it you're the least experienced member of your crew :))