The photographer Is Vladimir Rys who is a Canon ambassador and Red Bull photographer. He was also involved in the R3 when that launched.

I have an R6, and a 90D and for years the blue menus were for playback, review and in-camera editing features. I think the light blue color of these symbols indicates they are to be used while the playback/review mode is active.

@UrbaneHobbit

2 ай бұрын

Yes, implying that the Crop button is for cropping during playback, and not some kind of digital teleconverter for use during shooting

“So far, I’ve managed to avoid leaking any gear.” We haven’t forgotten about the a7 IV leak, Tony…

@giuseppijimi

2 ай бұрын

What happened with the a7

@renestaempfli1071

2 ай бұрын

Readout at 30% faster than R3 is about 7ms.

@RH-cv1rg

2 ай бұрын

If you are going to quote someone, quote the entire sentence. Tony said, "So far, I’ve managed to avoid leaking any gear in public". Persnickety people should be accurate.

@mbismbismb

2 ай бұрын

Sony is a fomo company the more reviewer leak it the more happy sony is...

i think the buttons make quite a lot of sense. The white/letter is for when you are shooting, while blue/icon is in image review. Nikon does same thing with z8 and z9, it's just programable under playback custom controlls. Given the nature of r1, being able to mark a photo for prioriity FTP is very usefull. Also, if they go out of theyir way to show you how to use the buttons in picture preview, that means they've put some tought in the ergonomics, making your camera into a console for quick selection and edit of your photos. I have something simmilar setup for my z9 and it's invaluable even for corporate events, let alone sports and press

I love Canon R5's 45M high quality images. But for astrophotography, the images are too noisy. As R5II has a stacked sensor, it implies BSI structure and will be one stop better in high iso performance. That does make a difference.

@StarLightDotPhotos

Ай бұрын

The pixel pitch of the OG R6 is perfect for astro. The AA filter is a problem though if you are doing IR stuff.

I still don’t regret buying the R5 early this year, when its price dropped significantly! I knew the R5 Mark II would come around this time of the year, but it was still a big upgrade to my 5D Mark IV anyway.

@truthseeker6804

2 ай бұрын

sell the r5 quick. coz r5iii would take like 4 years and all that 4 years youre gonna be drooling over the r5ii. lol.

@bngr_bngr

2 ай бұрын

Good move. I hope you still have the 5Div, it makes a great back up.

@tennissir1986

2 ай бұрын

Silly move.

@skesinis

2 ай бұрын

@@tennissir1986 Photography is my hobby, not my job, so I couldn’t justify paying the full price for the R5 back when it came out. I bought it in January paying almost at half price by trading in my 5D Mark IV, getting advantage of the much lowered price, and the cash back by Canon combined. Still I’m really happy with it. New cameras will come out all the time. I just wanted replace my 5D Mark IV with a much better camera, not necessarily the best out there, so that’s what I did…

@tennissir1986

2 ай бұрын

@@skesinis ok. enjoy. I’m fascinated as to how they got it (supposedly) to do unlimited 8K recording. That would be a breakthrough. And what autofocus capability’s it has.

Increased dynamic range! To me that's the next useful frontier in sensor quality, and I wish it was mentioned more often. :-)

@davep2945

2 ай бұрын

Agreed. Dynamic range is something every shooter could benefit from. These high FPS wars may sell cameras to gear junkies but it's so rarely needed or beneficial. Whereas dynamic range comes into play in some way in every photo.

@CaseyConnor

2 ай бұрын

@@davep2945 I hope someone can get this idea to Tony & Chelsea so they can start mentioning it in videos (if they agree). I feel like it has fallen through the attentional cracks for a lot of camera youtubers.

The FTP icon in blue may give the m-fn button some function in the playback mode, just like the Rate button in the EOS R6.

My issue with no mechanical shutter is that when taking pics with LED lighting you get black bars. Is there a way around that with an electronic shutter?

A good question as for the canon screen is whether they have an OLED display yet or not.

No explanation for the light blue icons? Since it’s on buttons that have other, white icons too, wouldn’t that mean you need to press some modifier in addition to the button, and the light blue is like a secondary function? Just a guess…

Keep in mind, Canon announced it so they COULD put it into the hands of people in the wild. If it were unannounced, then it would be more hidden. Now, they probably don’t want testers talking about it or showing photos but, they need this tested before the Olympics, the only way it can be tested for professional sports events is at those events. Therefore, it will be seen. That’s why they announced it. 4:43

@vueport99

2 ай бұрын

Hype marketing 101

On canons, the light blue symbols next to buttons has always meant "function during image playback" while white meant "function during shooting", no?

Blue coded symbols are accessed when you're playing images. At least on the Canon Camera I have... The sub menu for play settings is also coded blue.

As primarily a wildlife photographer, I am not excited about the Canon R5 II. I don't need more frames/sec or even a faster read-out speed in electronic shutter 99%of the time--but more megapixels like the Sony A7R5's 60 MP, would have excited me so to allow more cropping for distant animals which is something I need to do all the time--even at 800mm. It's been years for this update, and it feels like technology has just stalled here. Completely disappointed and looking elsewhere.

Good video and information I shoot Sony A1 and really wish it had a flip screen. Something you missed is shooting landscapes, low to the ground in portrait orientation it tough for this body to get down there to see viewfinder or screen. Being able to do a focus stack without being able to see the screen is tough! Maybe I just need to bite the bullet and get an A7R 5. Buy a new body for 1 reason??

I just wanna know if they are going to have the Powershot SX80 HS.

@okaro6595

2 ай бұрын

I do not they have a team to develop compact cameras anymore. There has been no new ones since 2019. It is same for other manufacturers.

Canon uses the color blue for the labeling of buttons when the function of that button only effects the playback menu. So the M-Fn button becomes the FTP button when you are in playback. Pretty straight forward actually

When there’s 2 icon for the same button on Canon cameras, the blue icon means the function is activated when the camera during play back; while white icon indicates the function during shooting.

@peterebel7899

2 ай бұрын

... since they introduced digital ....

Guys when will hasselblad release the x3d ?

So what happens to Z8? Blown out of the water? Finished??

Blue icons aside white one probably indicates this function is accessible while pressing other button or in a preview mode.

It really makes Sony look silly for charging so much for their high megapixel/high FPS camera. The Z8 and now R5 II do the same thing at way less.

I’m curious what store is selling the Sony A1 for $5500? Every store I’ve looked at in the US still has it for $6500 (and sold out).

Love my R5, but I find myself grabbing my R6 II so much more often for one simple reason - the battery lasts at least 2x as long! It wouldn’t be the most exciting upgrade but if the R5 ii can do all the cool new stuff and improve the battery life I’d be excited to upgrade! Other features I’d love to see from the R6 ii - I love the on/off switch on the right, making for almost complete one handed use, and the photo/video switch where the old on/off button used to be makes for way quicker switching compared to the R5!

@WilliamJohnston

2 ай бұрын

@Lyingrumorsguy I used to use BGs, now enjoying the smaller, lighter weight without. I will always bring a spare when I take my R5 anywhere, but R6 ii is so good that I can trust it with a full day of shooting - even gets through a full wedding on one battery as one of 2 bodies. I’ve never had my R5 die at an important moment, but better battery life would certainly give more peace of mind..!

@joekidd8

2 ай бұрын

The on/off switch on the R5 is nonsense and a complete pain.

The blue icons for FTP and cropping on the R1seem like they might be quick toggles for sports photographers. Both look positioned to be able to be pressed with the index finger. Maybe they're there so photographers on the sideline can invoke them with a tap? The fact that they're blue suggests they're alternate functions, not primary. Maybe the buttons have the white icon's function during shooting, but the blue icon's functions during playback/review? Or there's a "shift key" on the back you can press with your thumb to access the blue icon's function?

I can tell you for sure that FTP protocol is not outdated by any means .

Let's get CLOG2 in that thing and kill the 30 minute recording limit so Canon can finally KILL all the entry-level cameras from 10 years ago.

@subwarpspeed

Ай бұрын

My R8 has increased the recording limit to 2 hours, so this should too increase it or remove it. For 4k 60 Canon still says 30 minutes but I think I've seen some test beyond that. It's just that you have to actively cool it or be out in the winter, otherwise it overheats in 20-25 in that mode indoors 🙄

White symbols are shooting mode active, blue means the same button does that function in review mode.

I never use the electronic shutter no matter what I am shooting (Canon R6 Mk ii). When my camera can shoot 14 bit RAW why would I settle for only 12 bit?

@Carthodon

Ай бұрын

Because you often don't need 14 bit raws and do want a totally silent camera.

@kshgarg147

Ай бұрын

@@Carthodon I agree with the silent part. Try this, click any picture with a lot of really dark areas both in 12 bit and 14 bit. Now increase the shadows and you will see the difference in the noise levels. The whole reason we pay so much money for these cameras is higher bit depth. The reason Hasselblads or Phase ones or FujiFilms are better than our cameras is because they shoot in 16 bit (well actually 15bit with 1 extra bit for something else!). The day I saw the difference in noise, I decided never to use 12 bit again (unless I need to shoot silent which happens very very rarely)

@Carthodon

Ай бұрын

​@@kshgarg147 So I almost always use mechanical shutter because in the back of my mind I think if I'm going to take a picture then I want maximum quality unless I need the eshutter. Its a psychological thing, not a practical requirement. I can admit that, and you should too. I only realized this when I looked at a friend's work who was using an OM camera, which only does 12 bit files, and I really couldn't tell that it wasn't 14 bit. If in order to tell you need to put it side by side then there really isn't much of a difference, and in so far as there is a difference it isn't really a big deal. I have this hypothesis that the reason why you have in commercial shoots a demand for medium format 16 bit 100 mp shots has less to do with the person commissioning the work being able to tell the difference and believing it is required and more to do with someone being afraid of screwing up the project and having to explain that to their boss, so they are willing to pay the extra money "just in case" the other attributes are needed. Most of the time they really aren't.

@Carthodon

Ай бұрын

@@kshgarg147 Weird, my response isn't showing up. I legit have no idea why. The summation is I rarely use eshutter because in the back of my mind I think if I'm going to take a photo then I should max out the iq. It's not an actual practical requirement, just a psychological fomo. I came to this conclusion after seeing the results of OM cameras, with only 12 bit raws, and how I really couldn't see much of a difference. If you have to put them side by side then the difference isn't really that significant or important. I have this hypothesis that the reason why in high end commercial shoots there is a demand for expensive medium format 16 bit 100mp photos has less to do with any practical need, they may have no idea what 100mp or 16 bit really means, and more to do with the guy running things not being sure what he needs so he just errs on the end of maxing everything out because in the scheme of things its less expensive than to have to redo a shoot and have to explain to your boss why. Most of the time I don't think really any of it is actually necessary.

Yeah... I use ftp regularly and didn't know that symbol

My guess for the FTP button, blue means in playback mode. Same for the crop button.

Greate video as alwasy !!!! thank you so much to keep us updated .....also I didn't know you started the channel doing C# tutorials wow

I'm thrilled because the original R5 is now more attainable. I love my R6 but there are times I want more MPs...

Canon have missed the boat, when the A1 ii is released, there once again will be no comparable model from Canon. The R1 should have been a minimum 50mp camera. Truth is having higher megapixels gives you massive advantage in the field with cropability. I was never interested in the R3 and now not interested in the R1 and why would I switch from my A1 to an R5ii that only matches some specification

Blue icons are the button functions when in playback, where the text is the function in shooting modes 2:16

The FTP icon... Totally agree that it's not obvious but I think I've figured it out. The box on the left represents a server and the vertical line on the right represents a network to which the server is connected. So this is really a 'Networked Server' icon rather than 'FTP Server' 😀

Just like the voice notes button on the R5 it’s blue because you just gotta hold it

What do I want to see in an R5 II? Third party lenses…that’s what.

@Carthodon

Ай бұрын

I wouldnt hold my breath. There is no reason for Canon to do that unless they lose market share which they still aren't for reasons that elude me.

You did not review the Video portion of the R5 Mark 11

You don't think the image quality will be better in the MKII? Stacked sensors typically have better low light performance and I am looking forward to seeing how the focusing system has improved.

Honestly, I'm sick of all the "leaks" and rumors. Just wait till the damn thing is actually available and specs are in writing on canons website. Until then it's all just speculation.

@jiridvorak

Ай бұрын

bro, thats all about money. If you are youtuber, or in some media you need people to read your web, articles watch videos. And if you release something like "LEAK, REVEAL" you get lot of watch. The more people watch or read, the more advertisment is shown or proclicked. And thats money income with easy big reveneue :)

@venturetrucking6437

Ай бұрын

@@jiridvorak I understand that. It doesn't make it any less annoying. It also makes drives me away from channels when they do too much shit like that.

The eye control caught my eye. I still shoot with a Canon Elan 7e, and I love the eye control feature.

The Blue symbols are in revieuw / playback mode. The white in normal camera mod.

Hi Tony, thanks for reporting on this! I'd add 1 caveat to the FPS in electronic, is that the current R5 is dropping to 12bit raws instead of 14bits. Curious to see if the R5 II will do the same. But as an R5 user for landscape and general event/corporate and occasionnal wildlife, and as you stress really nicely, the R5 II doesn't make much sense so far. The R5 is still a great camera I can rely on, and produce images anyone should be happy with - and the improvement in the R5 II is clearly targetted to broaden an already amazing range of use.

Thanks for sharing specs on the R5 Mark II. You didn't talk about R5C at all. It can do 8K/60P and does very well with the CF Express Type B for video and class 10 SDXC for photos. The only limitation is the missing IBIS.

I agree with the anti theft and other features mentioned at the end. I hope they add those in the R6 line first, because that fits better for me. I may still get an R5 ii if I can save up enough money, but R6 is really what I really need. Want vs. need.

Given the precedent with the S9 does this mean that the R5 will be unveiled tomorrow? 😅

you left out a big rumor. that it is a dual gain sensor. dual gain would be amazing! and it would signal that this camera will also be clog2 and have outstanding dynamic range.

Blue icons are normally for options in playback

Do the sony xperia 1 vi please

I like to shoot sports so I was looking forward to hearing about the R1 but the R5II sounds even better. I will have to wait to hear more specific information about the possible use specific functions of the R1 and see if it has a flip screen like the R3 & R6II. Refresh rate would also be a consideration.

After shooting all my life with Canon starting with the 1D and buying nearly all version of the 1D and the 5D line and later moving to the R5, I changed to Sony last year. Primary reasons have been the quality of the 24-70 GM II, the availability of the 35 mm lens and the much lower weight of the equipment. Weight reduction of the equipment is important for me since I shoot primarily travel pictures and since I am getting older. I am looking forward to see the launch if the A1 II

@HappychappyUK

21 күн бұрын

I changed and gave up with Canon also, after many years using them, starting the DSLR Canon 20D and ending with the Canon 1DX MKll. I am happier with Sony; their sensors are better at full stop. Got the Sony A1 and Sony A74. Now, looking at the Sony 7CR for travel, their lenses are just getting lighter and improving all the time.

focus the same?

Really nice quality, lighting and look

Love canon top pros who shoot without lens hoods. Glad they’re the ones out testing. Professionally.

Ha, nostalgia- my first SLR was the EOS 50e (ELAN IIe over there) with eye control; you’re right: that technology has never not sucked! I’m sure it will get better eventually. I’ve never had a rolling shutter issue shooting wildlife with the R5, but admittedly that’s larger African wildlife, and larger slower birds than hummingbirds. What would really interest me though is a well implemented pre-burst, as that’s gold for wildlife. I’m still (probably in vain) hoping for the fabled “big” R5 firmware update introducing pre-burst for the R5 once the R5II dust has settled, but 95% sure that won’t happen. Most likely I’ll just wait for the R5II to get 2-3 years old and grab a 2nd hand one, as the R5 will do nicely till then.

Thanks for the review. Totally agree about the competition to increase shutter speed and auto focus. As a landscape photographer no interest in upgrading my R5’s to the R5 mk2. Testing the Fuji gfx 100s 2 soon and seriously considering moving everything to Fuji. Canon gave us the 5dsr years ago and can’t understand why they are not doing a camera for landscape photographers.

I mostly should birds and wildlife. NO one is talking about autofocus improvements in speed of eye autofocus or better eye recognition. These would be the main selling points for me as the R5 often has problems getting on a bird if it is far from current focus point.

Would be nice to have more Megapixels and even better dynamic range.

It took Canon over three years to release a camera competitive to Sony A1 …. Waiting on the A2

Button symbol in a different color usually means that's the button's function in playback mode, as opposed to shooting mode. Lots of cameras have that.

I have the R5 and absolutely love it! Definitely interested!

I still shoot a canon 5dmkii lol I have been wanting to update for a decade now and I’m surprised that there is still no quick way to share photos into your phone so I can quickly share an amazing quality photo with my family and friends

Great video! I’m really glad that new Canons are coming because it brings down the price of old ones. There might come a day when R5 will be cheap enough for me to buy it. 2900 is still too much.

Technically concerning image quality and the process of taking pictures, everything is fine and doesn’t need an upgrade - coming from the R5 MK I and being a people, fashion / advertising photographer. Lenses I can adapt from EF and more sharpness for me is rather unwanted, as it gets way too hyperrealistic. What I would love to see is more and easier connectivity. Like when shooting to be able to drop JPG and even RAWs via WiFi like to a broadcast channel to multiple connected phones / pads / pcs. E.g. just by pushing a button, you select the last pics you shot and send them over. As easy as AirDrop but of course via an App. Nice for working with / for instagrammers or even on smaller commercial jobs. Concerning Video there would be one point - a bit more options for the codec / Bitrate settings. But that’s it. Greetz from Germany and keep up the good work!

The "M-fn" symbol (wich I guess is probably for "Main function" most likely applies to the wheel selector right besides it.

@exile4ever

2 ай бұрын

I thought M-fn is Muti-function.

@user-ll2jl1yg3t

Ай бұрын

@@exile4ever Learn something new every day. I always thought it was the button I push when I can't get anything to work right. "What is wrong with this M-fn thing?" hmm

If the R5 II comes with 16-bit files instead of 14-bit that would make it a very welcome improvement for many others then sports and wildlife photographers. That would make it the go to fullframe studio camera.

I am wondering if any of the camera manufacturers are going to make a screen that you can see what's in front of you, even in bright sunlight. The other thing that would be handy is, like me old Samsung Galaxy phone, if I want the shutter to take the photo, all I have to say is "cheers" and the shutter takes the photo. It's so handy, especially when you have the camera in an awkward position.

M-fn for multi function button.

does the faster read out speed help wedding photographers shoot silent, or is the flash sync and the light flicker still a problem with electronic? If it does help, then I could see that silent shooting being a real help for event photography as well. 4000$ seems pretty good deal, I'd be surprised if they can manage that low! Perhaps Sony's going to have to think about making a stacked sensor camera for under 4500$ in the future to compete with Nikon and Canon, (and not the a9ii)!

I’m still shooting with my 5DIV’s and my 1DXII. The R5II might finally convince me to go mirrorless with no more rolling shutter. I used to be a gear chaser however with 6 bodies taking decent pics and photography not being my primary position I finally stopped that when Canon stoped offering those rebates around the pandemic. This R5II seems to have what I’ve been waiting for. We’ll see if the price still justifies it and if hands on reviews don’t point out issues with it.

Diamond plate like rubber pattern on grip. It will fits new Defender :P

Thanks for the perspective. I also owned the Canon Elan II with eye control focus and it worked great for me, not sure why your experience was not as positive. Having said that, given how improved autofocus is these days, I am not sure eye control focus is as valuable, it would be nice, but probably not as valuable as it was when Canon introduced it back with the Elan II.

Crop mode is the only reason I use full frame cameras. Double-crop mode would be even better.

my guess would be that the FTP icon is blue because it is doing that function in Playback mode, while in capture mode it is acting as M-Fn. That would be consistent with the Playback button which is blue as well on all Canon cameras.

Hope they fixed the video overheating issues...

@discodiffusioner

Ай бұрын

Didn't they do that with the original with a firmware update? Other tubers have said they get over 1.5 hours with no overheating warnings or issues since.

@davideographer4410

Ай бұрын

@@discodiffusioner Yeah I heard about the firmware update but wasn't sure if it fully solved the problem, besides allowing the camera to reach a slightly higher temperature threshold before shutting off. I remember some modders added heat sinks which enabled them to get unlimited record times, but it seemed like a somewhat hacky temporary solution. I thought they added a more robust cooling system to one of their later cameras (R5C?) that was supposed to help with heat management, and I was hoping the R5 II would see something like this too - like an active cooling system. I guess we'll have to wait and see...

Man… I just want to upgrade from the ef mark 1s of the 24-70 2.8 and 70-200 2.8 to the RFs. Lol

Vladimir Rys, is the Canon ambassador, that got caught using the R1 🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯🎯🎯💯💯 at Monte Carlo

@endowpictures22

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂

That symbol almost looks like the gas pump symbol on my dashboard. 😂

I agree with Tony that it’s unnecessary to keep cracking up megapixels, but I do think that sensor readout speed is a significant advantage that the manufactures should be focusing on.

Where can you get a Sony A1 for $5400?

As someone who shoots a lot of video on the R5 I'd love to see improvements on the IBIS and reducing the amount of disorienting wobble.

I'm a happy R5 owner. I'm not a sport/wildlife guy, so the R5 II doesn't grab me on speed and rolling shutter. If it had working eye detect AF, I guess I could be interested in that. Otherwise... Raw histograms would be #1, maybe. Wouldn't mind a few more custom settings banks. And they could improve the awkward mode dial which seems to not work at the first attempt 10% of the time.

Totally agree with closing comments. Transferring files should not be this painful in 2024

That symbol icon made me think of the one used to indicate that a terminal (LA-34 Decwriter) terminal or a VT52 or VT100 or an IBM 3270 dumb terminal connected to a network using thicknet, arcnet or token ring networking and cabling and connecting to a mini-computer or an IBM mainframe (pre-ethernet 1980's networking technologies that are lost to history now!) LOL (YEs I am old enough to have used punched cards and forgotten more than most people will ever know about somethings. Punch card confetti shed from me as I walk and leave a trail behind me)

The lack of software evolution by camera manufacturers is there Achilles heel. Companies like DJI, Apple, Google and even the shamed Insta360 I’ll be beginning to use software to make their cameras and workflow very powerful and I believe this will overcome much of the hardware technology advantage these companies have.

I live in CT so I'll have to keep my eyes open for Tony incognito. 😅

Maybe that icon isn't FTP specific but rather "upload with some preconfigured file sharing method", where FTP could still be one.

It sounds like the r5mk 2 is exactly the camera I’ve been waiting for. I’m so excited! I am really tired of having to choose between megapixels and frames per second in wildlife / sports photography.

Great video tony. I suspect I won't buy these cause these don't have theft protection.

I also bought the Canon EOS 5 film camera when I was 22. The eye auto focus worked flawlessly with my eyes, but the whole function wasn't practical at all.

After the Sony a75 with 24-70 GM2 and 50 f1.2, I forgot Canon forever.. Technology, Pricing, Compatability... Sony is the leader now ..

hopefully no recording limit or overheating , the z9 can do it with plenty of heat sinks..

@krane15

Ай бұрын

ALL cameras can overheat under stress conditions. Just like your car. Always keep that in mind.

@solarion33

Ай бұрын

@@krane15 in regular shooting mode .. up to 50\60..

Mechanical shutter has purpose... R1 I hope will have mechanical shutter because it will be able to capture photo in more color bit-depth. For example 16-bit with mechanical, 14-bit electronical shutter

Thanks for Sharing!

Imo the only interesting thing about r1 is whether sensor will be fast enough do not get any flickering/banding issues or not. Because if it will have banding issues, a93 will be a much better option for anyone shooting sports

Thank you for the video. While the R5 II has nice features with a proposed stacked sensor I’m still happy I bought two A1, one new, one used almost 3 and half years ago. Will see what really comes out from Canon, the rumor mill is never ending. That’s why there is no Sony A1 mark II. Sony wont announce its replacement until the Canon cameras stop changing daily. While I agree CFExpress B is nicer I’ve had zero issues with my dual CFExpress A cards since I started using them. Have a total of 5 pairs to support my two A1’s and my A7RV. My sole Canon R5 only gets a little bit of love but will see if that’s worth upgrading. Take care.

Always wondered for a camera that has a "specific" use for example the A9III/ upcoming A1II?..why can't Sony just make the body a little bit more "rugged" for sports/wildlife/landscape environments and a tad bit bigger..not neccesarily have a built in battery grip..but just a bigger form factor overall...even this Canon R1 from the photos the body looks so nice with the overall look and size..

@christophercarlimages9003

2 ай бұрын

Sony form factor is a major weakness

@ldmndz4652

2 ай бұрын

@@christophercarlimages9003 Yes..dont get me wrong I use A7R bodies for work..but the fact that they are all the same bodies basically feels so sterile..lol at least the A9III has a subtle new design on it especially around the grip and the new angle curved part where the shutter release is now..I guess baby steps..lol the Canon R1 leaks looks so nice even the grip has a subtle design on it..very cool..all I ask is for Sony to make the bodies slightly bigger and have a redesign body..lol

Secret camera man, secret camera man, They’re giving you a camera, making you sign an NDA, oh man.