Lead VS TSS Turkey 12 GA pattern test - Winchester/Federal/Apex

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In this video we pattern 4 different kinds of 12 gauge shells at 30 yards and 60 yards. Winchester Double X and Longbeard XR. Federal and Apex TSS.
Hope you enjoy the video! #turkeyhunting #tss #tungsten #12gauge #apex #federal #winchester #shotgun #pattern

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  • @ra_gp
    @ra_gp Жыл бұрын

    Just sitting here, watching videos for my first turkey hunt season, and your comments at 13:10.. just started cracking me up man. Great comparison video. Seconding others here that the way the information is provided was very well laid out and helpful.

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad we could make you laugh!

  • @jamesbriseno4705
    @jamesbriseno470515 күн бұрын

    Appreciate the video - very informative….👍

  • @NoMissOutdoors
    @NoMissOutdoors Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video.... liked and subscribed

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the sub!

  • @JasonMossChannel
    @JasonMossChannel Жыл бұрын

    just watched maybe 6 videos comparing these TSS to lead loads and yours was by far the best. That Apex load is disturbing!

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds good man, thanks for the comment! More hunting videos to come.

  • @steemerxaxon1643
    @steemerxaxon16434 ай бұрын

    Winchester LONG BEARD 3.5" #5/6 ALL DAY

  • @erichollobaugh2553
    @erichollobaugh2553 Жыл бұрын

    Great video thank you

  • @Rusty-Brown_
    @Rusty-Brown_ Жыл бұрын

    REALLY GOOD VID YOUNG MAN I GLAD WE STILL HAVE MEN OF YOUR AGE STILL GETTING OUTSIDE DOING COOL STUFF I WAS DOING THIS IN THE 70 S

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    4 ай бұрын

    thank you sir!

  • @6.5ruger
    @6.5ruger Жыл бұрын

    That apex is awesome in my opinion been shooting it for a few years now in my 12’s & 20’s

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    They 100% got it figured out!

  • @timl8302

    @timl8302

    Жыл бұрын

    @@4ofakindoutdoors Yeah, but $15 a shell! DANG!

  • @publicdefender77
    @publicdefender77 Жыл бұрын

    Good video brother!!

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    thanks!

  • @bradystreetman5818
    @bradystreetman5818 Жыл бұрын

    I patterned my a5 this year with 3 1/2” and 3” long beard xr #6 for both and the 3” significantly outperformed the 3 1/2” at 40 and 50. I also shot the 3 1/2” double x #6 and I wouldn’t feel comfortable shooting at 40 to get a clean kill, so the xrs are a lot better than the double x for me

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    yes, we have had a better pattern with the XR's over the past few years

  • @larrygolden167

    @larrygolden167

    Жыл бұрын

    My 870 patterns the best with 3” xr #6.

  • @pedrojsanchezalvarado5569
    @pedrojsanchezalvarado5569 Жыл бұрын

    Q hermosa arma amigo excelentes para cazar

  • @leroyapplegate5049
    @leroyapplegate50493 ай бұрын

    My sbe3 shoots left pretty much every time. No matter the shells, the choke, whatever it may be. The groups will only change size but it consistently shoots left 🤷‍♂️

  • @jasonanddawnoutdoors8595
    @jasonanddawnoutdoors8595 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Guys 👍

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    you bet! good luck this season!

  • @1boopig
    @1boopig Жыл бұрын

    I kills a nice tom at 56 yards two years ago with Winchers Long Beard XR 3" #6 shot 12ga. One shot rolled him.

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    That's awesome, for us the goal is to get him within 40 but we don't get alot of opportunities so we like having the power to reach out to 60 if we need it

  • @steemerxaxon1643
    @steemerxaxon16434 ай бұрын

    Camera man must like the crouch

  • @CharleyGBrown
    @CharleyGBrown Жыл бұрын

    TSS #9 seems like it does an absolutely incredible job. We can only hunt with #5,6 and 7 shot in my province (in Canada), I wonder if #7 TSS could perform as good as the #9? If anyone has tried that compared to Longbeard XRs #5 (3.5”) please let me know!

  • @steemerxaxon1643
    @steemerxaxon16434 ай бұрын

    As good as the XR was just imagine #9 in the LONG BEARD

  • @charleywalker2982
    @charleywalker2982 Жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @yakohio9271
    @yakohio92714 ай бұрын

    Apex TSS is worth every penny

  • @stevenrega9109
    @stevenrega9109 Жыл бұрын

    What choke are you using in that gun

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    Kicks High Flyer Goblin' Thunder .665

  • @juliusjames5577
    @juliusjames5577 Жыл бұрын

    Why do say you pulled shots left or right? if I buy 5 different loads for my .270 they will each shoot to a different point of impact. Well brother it’s the same thing we are seeing here. You got to move your sights accordingly once you pick the load you’re going to hunt with. Since you’re just using the rib and bead ( I think?) your lucky that the best pattern also shot perfectly to your point of aim. Anyway, thanks for the video.

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    4 ай бұрын

    you are 100% correct. installed a red dot and sighted in my choses load to it and its a game changer for sure!

  • @juliusjames5577

    @juliusjames5577

    4 ай бұрын

    👍

  • @nathanlantz1737
    @nathanlantz1737 Жыл бұрын

    I want to see someone load high brass 7 1/2s and test them

  • @Portlycranium
    @Portlycranium Жыл бұрын

    Great video but 60 is really far to shoot. I just had to suffer thru a guy bragging on shooting bird at 78 yards with tss. How many guys fall into that mentality ? Call them in close or don't shoot..... Last couple birds I killed were 15 yards and under. By all means pattern guns and error on closer than trying far shots to main birds.

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment! Yes, we couldn't agree more. We don't like to shoot much over 40 and 50 is our max. 50 is in the arsenal but we love the chess match and like the challenge to get them in close.

  • @justinpoore2938
    @justinpoore29382 ай бұрын

    The flight control wad probably doesn’t like the choke

  • @robertchapman4488
    @robertchapman44884 ай бұрын

    Price for performance I would stick with the long beard XR all day

  • @jesusanguiano4373
    @jesusanguiano4373 Жыл бұрын

    Good times, can't wait for North Dakota Turkey season to start 👍🏼

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    How much longer you got my man?

  • @jesusanguiano4373

    @jesusanguiano4373

    Жыл бұрын

    @@4ofakindoutdoors April 8th can't come soon enough!

  • @bossgobbler2
    @bossgobbler2 Жыл бұрын

    You need a red dot!

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    Crazy you said that, just ordered one 2 hours ago!

  • @stormcrow7698
    @stormcrow7698 Жыл бұрын

    I have no problem smoking a bird with 3.5 LBxr #5 at 60yds

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    very good shell, that's what we used for years!

  • @buckhundred

    @buckhundred

    Жыл бұрын

    I did it this morning

  • @Rusty-Brown_
    @Rusty-Brown_ Жыл бұрын

    I LOVE YOUR BACK---STOP WHAT DO YOUR NEIGHBORS SAY ABOUT YOU SHOOTING IN YOUR BACK YARD ????

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    Our grandpaw built that gun range back in the 70's so they moved in and still new it was privately active. They don't seem to mind it too much! But it's "grandfathered in" I would say hahaha

  • @UandWMan
    @UandWMan Жыл бұрын

    i use remington TSS out of my 835. Federal is overpriced as you can see with this video. Apex and Remington TSS are cheaper and pattern as well or better.

  • @joshsinglefooter
    @joshsinglefooter Жыл бұрын

    Nice video. Just dont know why people put themselves through all the recoil anymore. 20 or 28g is plenty! But far, be it from me to advise something..... This is America . Do what you want

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    You are correct on 20ga or 28ga! Technology has came a long way. We don't mind the 12 right now given we are so excited at trigger pull that we hardly feel it but I see smaller gauges in the future for sure.

  • @realreadneck250
    @realreadneck250 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah I’m Switchin to apex 😂

  • @pedrojsanchezalvarado5569
    @pedrojsanchezalvarado5569 Жыл бұрын

    🇪🇨🇪🇨👍

  • @DEVILDOG1964
    @DEVILDOG1964 Жыл бұрын

    SHOOTING APEX 2 1/4 OZ 9'S AGAINST WINCHESTER 2 OZ LB XR'S 5'S AND CALLING IT A FAIR TEST IS NUTS. 6'S WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER. 660 IS TIGHTER CHOKE.

  • @rickvann3489
    @rickvann3489 Жыл бұрын

    Wrong choke for the Federal

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    What constriction works the best with them?

  • @rickvann3489

    @rickvann3489

    Жыл бұрын

    @4 Of A Kind Outdoors a $14.99 or least that's what I paid HS Strut Undertaker .665 constriction for the 4,5,&6 shot lead and copper plated. For me the carlson's .660 TSS 7 shot but my buddy has the best one and it's a cheap truglo but can't think of the restriction and it rocks

  • @CVDFCVDF9

    @CVDFCVDF9

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@rickvann3489 every gun is different I can take the same 2 shotguns with the same load and same choke and get 2 completely different results. Literally have done it.

  • @rickvann3489

    @rickvann3489

    5 ай бұрын

    @CVDFCVDF9 if barrels are back bored properly and polished all the way through I have seen it come down to the choke. Most people don't polish their barrels, hence the high-end Italian barrels

  • @CVDFCVDF9

    @CVDFCVDF9

    5 ай бұрын

    @rickvann3489 I patterned 2 benelli novas and beretta a300s, even with the same chokes they gave drastically different results. Across all brands and loads of shells. Machining tool marks, batch numbers, GD&T match up, surface finish, and how a choke interfaces on the barrel are all variable factors. There is no magic solution other than go pattern your shotgun with different load/ choke combinations.

  • @JohnThreeTwelve
    @JohnThreeTwelve Жыл бұрын

    The LBXR #5 and #6 will shoot better in the 3" version, and through a .650-.655 choke. The Apex 3" 2oz shells love a .660-.675. Their 2.25 oz loads do a lot better at .675-.680. I shoot the #8s, and still have over 100 in the 10" at 70 yards with an I.C .680. Just my 2 cents. Hope yall have a great season.

  • @4ofakindoutdoors

    @4ofakindoutdoors

    Жыл бұрын

    Very cool to hear other data, there is so much to be said when it comes for different loads and choke types/sizes. I've heard from a few people the Apex likes a wider constriction. Thanks for the comment and hope you have a good season as well.

  • @JohnThreeTwelve

    @JohnThreeTwelve

    Жыл бұрын

    @@4ofakindoutdoors Thanks bud!!

  • @quaidbusby2226
    @quaidbusby2226 Жыл бұрын

    Benellis suck

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