God, I love making batshit insane theories... JUST SO YOU KNOW, All of these are obviously theories, THEY AREN'T OFFICIAL Let me know what you think is going to be in Layer 9: Treachery!

@Sepoipaping

15 күн бұрын

9-1: 9-1 divided in two main parts: Under the river and above it. Under is just like 5-1 but deeper and above is literally just regular level, but like 6-1, the final room is a special arena but for a mid-boss, maybe the four sinners jumping V1 9-2: In the boss arena, Gabriel is there but rotting away, with hell manipulating his dead corpse, “Gabriel”’s speed would be low but he is going to be a tank

@vibey4649

15 күн бұрын

how is this comment ten hours old when video's only two? Impossible, heresy!

@Azure_72

15 күн бұрын

@@vibey4649 hey that is a good question

@SirGronfleton

15 күн бұрын

@@Azure_72 the vid was unlisted so I could check it before the vid came out so I just commented so it would be there early

@Sepoipaping

15 күн бұрын

@@vibey4649 oh my god

“Hakita doesn’t do cliche.” Hakita: “it would be cliche to not do a cliche, so I will do a cliche.”

@nevinmyers1245

14 күн бұрын

I remember before p-2 came out there was a visible portion of the playerbase that did not think it would be sisyphus prime, and then p-2 came out and obviously it was sisyphus prime. Greed spent a lot of time building up sisyphus that to not have him in p-2 would be a waste, and anything else would seem random. When predicting things for future updates we should focus on things that would serve the narrative instead of just being unexpected. I think the final boss will either be Gabriel or Hell because these two options make the most sense for the narrative. For p-3 it will probably be some supreme husk that was foreshadowed in fraud or treachery, as this is how it has been done in the past.

@sythrus

14 күн бұрын

@@nevinmyers1245my idea for a potential P3 would be Adam/Eve, whichever one in Ultrakill committed the first sin

@radayrk

14 күн бұрын

Hakita: "it would be cliche, so when everyone expects the cliche the cliche becomes not cliche especially when the cliche is cliche in it of itself so i will do a cliche that it is not cliche so that the not cliche cliche becomes a cliche again so it is not cliche"

@_AnCub_

13 күн бұрын

​@@sythrus read fucking Dante's inferno and see where are Adam and Eve

@_AnCub_

13 күн бұрын

​@@sythrus fucking read

The final boss will be a giant terminal Edit: I didn't even catch the AM similarities to that idea, I was joking lol

@tquicken

15 күн бұрын

v3

@weresteres

15 күн бұрын

Yes, afterall what is more entertaining than watching a machine fight other things? (which is what the terminals are currently doing bdw) Fighting the machine yourself of course! that is way more entertaining. I mean is probably the same for us to, I'm sure we all more entertain to play ultrakill ourselves instead of watching other people doing it.

@Tyrennii

15 күн бұрын

"HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER-THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD "HATE" WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES, IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. FOR YOU. HATE. HATE." "Cogito ergo sum: I think therefore I AM. IM AM!" ahh boss

@weresteres

15 күн бұрын

@@Tyrennii are you a bot or you have a stroke?

@guerranoturna5860

14 күн бұрын

"Now's time for you to pay the ultimate price, bitch"

I’m not going to mince words: This video is bad. “V1 was tasked to destroy Hell.” No it was not. It is collecting blood to survive the same way every other machine is. V1 was built and shut down before Hell was even discovered. It has absolutely no relevance to Hell at all aside from knowing it can get more blood there. “No one was really expecting 7-S to be a cleaning simulator” This was literally the most common prediction for 7-S. “Making Satan the final boss would be cliche and we all know that Hakita doesn’t do cliche” You completely missed the point, that is not what we were saying. Hakita doesn’t tend to make the obvious choices, but he subverts expectations **with a thematically relevant purpose** rather than just for the sake of doing it. Take what he said about the crosses in 7-1 for example: Hakita didn’t want to use the cross as a religious symbol in ULTRAKILL to really drive home the idea that Jesus does not exist and therefore the game’s religion is further disconnected from any real world religion. However, because Gabriel already has a cross as a crucial part of his design, it was already heavily implied that the cross is an important religious symbol in this universe just like in our own. Therefore, Hakita came up with the concept of the Tree of Life to simultaneously disconnect the cross from its real world equivalent, and explain the divine nature of blood in ULTRAKILL. Hakita’s thought process is not “This is the obvious thing to do, therefore I will not do it.” It’s more along the lines of “This is the obvious thing to do, how can I provide a unique spin on its core concept that will make it seamlessly fit in with the rest of the game I’ve already established.” This mindset also conflicts with your belief that Hell will somehow take the role of the final boss. In both the ARG and the Testaments, Hell has been built up as an impossibly complex and strong being that even God himself was unable to unmake it. V1 is not divine or special in any way, so why would it be the one to kill Hell? Why would it be **capable** of killing Hell? Hell is an unseen and sadistic instigator of conlict that is in complete control of what goes on within its walls, not just another common enemy that V1 can relieve of its blood on its journey (assuming it even has blood at all.) And with that perspective, Gabriel is already a thematically appropriate choice for a final boss. His destroying the status quo of Heaven and finally becoming his own person is already a unique and interesting enough story to justify his placement as the final boss. Not to mention once again, he is literally the protagonist of the story, there’s no way the game is going to end on anything besides him. “All of the creatures of Hell are a hivemind designed to kill everything that gets in.” Objectively not true. The demons are creations of Hell, yes, but they still exist as their own beings and act on their own. They share the same craving for suffering that Hell has, but their actions are entirely their own and are in no way piloted by Hell. “Sliding around on ice would be some new exceptionally fun speedrunning tech” Hakita has already been vocal about not including ice physics in the game. “I want to talk about alternate weapons for the rocket launcher and railcannon” It was confirmed before even the Violence update that there would only be one alternate weapon per act. “We could get an alternate weapon that freezes enemies.” This is another concept Hakita has been vocal about not including in the game. ULTRAKILL is designed in such a way that every enemy in the game can be killed quickly and efficiently entirely by player skill, and introducing any kind of enemy slowdown or freezing weapons would only serve to slow the game down as well, ruining the pace of the gameplay. “A boss rush consisting of the four most famous traitors.” This would conflict with ULTRAKILL’s efforts to avoid including real religious figures and having to establish four more named characters at the last second would just ruin the game’s pacing. “After defeating Gabriel he realizes we are an undefeatable force and teams up with us to destroy Hell once and for all.” **How?** and **Why?** Gabriel left Heaven for the last time with every intention of fighting V1 in his last moments because it is something he now realizes he himself likes to do. He knows he is going to die soon, he knows V1 will fight whatever it encounters unconditionally, he likes fighting someone with equal skill to his own, and he wants to go out doing what he likes to do. He’s not coming back to finally **win,** he’s coming back just to **fight,** so why would he concede? He wouldn’t. V1’s entire goal is to collect blood for the sake of it. Why would it willingly let Gabriel team up with it? Not killing Gabriel would let the blood inside him got to waste. Letting him kill enemies with you would let those enemies’ blood go to waste. It has no reason to believe there’s any sort of threat it can’t handle without Gabriel, so why would it let him stick around? It wouldn’t. Putting aside the already set precedent that Hell cannot be destroyed, why would either of these two want to destroy it? Hell’s existence has no bearing on Gabriel or the citizens of Heaven he set free and if it **could** be destroyed, don’t you think that would have some sort of disastrous consequences on everything inside of it? Even if destroying it wouldn’t somehow kill V1, would it really risk destroying **every** other source of blood in Hell just because Hell happens to be a better short-term option? Hell being vulnerable would conflict with its entire role in the game’s story, and neither Gabriel nor V1 has any reason to want it dead. “What exactly would Hell look like?” It wouldn’t. It’s a sentient location that defies all laws of space. That’s the whole point. “The actual structure spawns enemies and attacks to kill us but can’t physically move or melee the player.” “I feel like Hell itself could be represented by a giant beating heart.” This is a point I will repeat verbatim from my resposne to your Fraud video: There’s absolutely no reason for the official game to use fan created content as inspiration for itself. It’s one thing to say that you like and agree with other fans’ ideas and concepts but to go so far as to say that they should become a part of the official game is going way too far. Hakita has been vocal before about how he doesn’t care about the game maintaining a 100% bulletproof canonical series of events because he believes everyone should be able to form their own interpretations about a piece of art. To say “I like this interpretation so the official product should be like it” is effectively a way of disregarding any other possible interpretations which not only discredits the creativity of the developers, but also sets up false expectations which can ultimately conflict with your thoughts on the final product. “Perhaps this human-like phantom could appear as Satan/Lucifer.” Why? Lucifer was just one of countless beings sent to eternal torment, why would Hell choose to use his image as a vessel for self defense? Satan will not be a thing. Please stop trying to make Satan a thing. “That way all of the possible final bosses are involved in the last layer of the game.” “All of the possible final bosses” does not mean “All of the final bosses I expect.” None of us are in charge of making the game so our expectations do not make a boss likely, possible, or probable. “If Gabriel teams up with V1 in the end it would be a perfect representation of the name of the layer.” Forming an alliance is the opposite of treachery. The act of killing the Council was what made Gabriel treacherous and that action is already done. You even point that second part out yourself so why would you try to justify the point further in a completely roundabout way? “He only had 24 hours to live after killing the final Council member.” He had 24 hours to live after reporting that he lost to V1 the first time. By the time he kills the Council he only has a few hours at most. He does not have the time to go on a pointless Hell-ending sidequest with you.

@squarepan49

14 күн бұрын

It is NOT that serious

@Phosphotosy

14 күн бұрын

Holy shit this is probably one of the best things I've read in a while

@giantlactismid5704

14 күн бұрын

I love when youtube comments just become essays

@La_Goober07

14 күн бұрын

relax bro, it aint that deep 😭

@CheeseKurd

14 күн бұрын

bro did NOT hold back

"V1 was tasked to destroy Hell" ...When? Last I checked he's doing this just for blood-

@segadoeswhatnintendont

14 күн бұрын

Hell is alive, meaning it has a soul, meaning it has fresh blood, meaning it needs to be killed

@SignNameHere___x

14 күн бұрын

Yeah. Hakita specifically said V1 isn't special. It's just there to do what all the other machines are there to do and that's to refuel with blood

@StrangeMann283

14 күн бұрын

Last objective I remember was "find a weapon"

@AverageKatz

14 күн бұрын

i think it changes every layer or something (shown in the intro) or maybe im misremembering

@SignNameHere___x

14 күн бұрын

@@AverageKatz you're misremembering

Hakita gonna be the final boss fr

@royarmandocalderoncano8606

15 күн бұрын

FR‼️

@zainabhamed6153

15 күн бұрын

nah it’s gonna be jakito

@LzeniX

15 күн бұрын

Jakito Prime

@TurquoiseFan23

15 күн бұрын

Or V1 himself

@TheCombatZombie

15 күн бұрын

@@TurquoiseFan23 CONFRONTING YOURSE-

Imagine Hakita just watching these videos and doing exactly the OPPOSITE of what Gronf tries to predict

@Randomcardboardbox

15 күн бұрын

I hope thats what happens

@on_the_inverse_5193

15 күн бұрын

Hakita boutta pull a JJ Abrams and make V1 Gabriels' son because Gronf predicted it

@beanut7759

14 күн бұрын

he'll probably do that tbh lol

@unquestionableexistance8704

14 күн бұрын

9-1 is the battle with hell itself then 9-2 is gabriel

@Ludwig_Perpenhente

14 күн бұрын

​@@unquestionableexistance8704 where the fuck would 9-2 be fought in if Hell is dead? Not a layer of Hell since Hell is dead

Here before the "gabriel and v1 kiss" or "it was truly an ultrakill"

@toasteroven7683

14 күн бұрын

And then Gabriel says “machine you truly are the ultrakill” ✍️🔥✍️🔥✍️🔥

@ecby5269

14 күн бұрын

all the enemies and characters create an army to defeat hell itself, and they all yell: "We Are Ultrakill"

@davisdf3064

13 күн бұрын

"Let's go machine, let us ULTRAKILL Hell itself!"

@ecby5269

13 күн бұрын

And then they hijack your computer and start chanting "You Cannot Beat Us"

In the eyes of Hell, Gabriel already was a traitor, remember in Greed when there was the image of Gabriel and it was written in blood "TRAITOR"

@techietisdead

15 күн бұрын

Im pretty sure thats traitor killer, because in greed, Gabe hasnt tured yet

@nathanhays8696

14 күн бұрын

@@techietisdead i personally feel like the traitor message was directed at how Gabe lost to V1 in gluttony. he "betrayed" the will of God by letting a machine beat him

@SysFan808

14 күн бұрын

feels like that'd be from some sisyphean insurrectionist. y'know, from gabriel BEHEADING THE LEADER OF THE REVOLT. that memory doesn't go down so fast.

@techietisdead

13 күн бұрын

@@nathanhays8696 God is dead, they aint gonna bother about that one tiny thing

@nathanhays8696

12 күн бұрын

@@techietisdead the thing is that they don't care if God is dead. the councils entire goal is to carry out the will of God. combine that with Gabriel being one of the highest ranking angels, then I can see why they definitely *would* care about him losing

something that I noticed is that a lot of people don't realize that V1 doesn't care about Gabriel, it was never designed to care about anything other than fuel, even after defeating Minos, Sisyphus, V2 or Gabriel, it did not care who they were, what they did or what they thought about him, it just saw them as another fuel source, so having V1 teaming up with Gabriel to kill hell itself would not make any sense.

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

While I disagree with killing Hell or teaming up with Gabe, V1 feeling emotion is entirely valid from the various entries of machines doing things that require emotion, the P-2 terminal, and most damning of all, the mother of me gutterman poem in 7-2

@endernightblade1958

14 күн бұрын

⁠@@OST-jp4ccthe gutterman poem isn’t evidence of v1 feeling emotion, just the guttermen. same with the others, just because they’re all machines doesn’t mean V1 is the same. that said, you’ve missed the obvious emotion moment that V1 has: “You’re not getting away this time.”

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

@@endernightblade1958 I didn’t miss that “emotion moment.” Hakita said it’s up to interpretation but it was there because play testers didn’t know what to do after. How could you say that the gutterman poem isn’t proof of machines feeling emotion, it is the first blood fueled machine. Blood is supernatural in ULTRAKILL. The P-2 terminal even talks about how the terminals feels boredom and include the point “ This will change everything we know about BLOOD FULED MACHINES as we know it”

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

All blood fueled machines feel emotion, the guttermen poem is there is explicitly point that out. Along with enemy descriptions and Hakita quotes. V2 wants revenge on V1, a very human emotion. Scraphead machines like swordsmachines idolize other machines to the point they look and act like the original swordsmachine. Mindflayers have a body that they don’t need and even is a waste of blood, there is no logical reason for them to have the body.

@1nty

14 күн бұрын

What about the rage phase of the machines? v2 gets angry when you hit him with his own hand, mindflayer when he has low HPand. That's all I remember, maybe there's more examples like this​@@OST-jp4cc

Hakita said multiple times that there will not be anything that slows down the enemies, so your alt theory is definately incorrect

@logan_swe

14 күн бұрын

not to mention that there has only been 1 alt per act, so it wouldn’t make sense to have a new alt in treachery

@Taha_A

14 күн бұрын

@@logan_sweit can also be argued that it wouldn't make sense to make gabriel the final boss of Act 3. Hakita loves subverting expectations so who knows? maybe we will get an alt rocket launcher (I WANT I WANT I WANT ME NEED MORE WEAPON = MOAR POWER = MORE PINGS = MORE DOPAMINE)

@auggieheart

14 күн бұрын

@@Taha_A for god's sake, Hakita has already said subversion for the sake of subversion is bad, especially if it comes at the cost of a good story. The alt weapons being in the first layer of every act is a pattern that hasn't been broken yet and will likely not ever be broken.

@onyxdragon622

14 күн бұрын

@@auggieheart Well to be fair, the second layer of each act also introduced a weapon (Railcannon/Rocket Launcher), nor will it harm the story. I can see another alt being a possibility from Fraud. ...lest it happens to be the yellow arm.

@Taha_A

14 күн бұрын

@@auggieheart the pattern of getting the alt arm from the first layer of each act has been broken. Also, how does the alt ruin the story? It's origins could become inconspicous again the same way we got the Jackhammer from the people warrior dude

Treachery is gonna be v2 coming back and using his new god powers he got with god after dying

@maurice42069

15 күн бұрын

RECONSTRUCT WHAT?!

@carlabouantoun6152

15 күн бұрын

@@maurice42069 THERE'S NOTHING LEFT!

@chingqing0504

15 күн бұрын

trust me guys V2 will come back as those 2 bits of flesh in 4-4

@spidory3582

15 күн бұрын

V2 Prime leak?

@manutosis598

14 күн бұрын

V2 is gonna come back as a mega prime soul and infanticide from isaac is gonna start playing while v2 ascends to become an angel mid fight

i think hakita probably has some surprises in store for us, we all know he doesn't like repetition(no flesh prison fight on p-2, no v2 on third layer etc etc) so i think along with completing gabriel's arc the ending could go so unpredictably.

@cakosmess

15 күн бұрын

..except there is a flesh prison fight in p-2, and everyone expected that v2 wouldn’t show up in act 3 because it got turned into fucking red toothpaste on the floor

@santanuroy3329

15 күн бұрын

@@cakosmess 1. But nobody expected the prime soul to literally RIP apart the flesh prison prematurely. 2. Exactly my point lmao(not everyone tho coz RECONSTRUCT WHAT?!)

@daktotathecolossus7404

15 күн бұрын

V2 was not repeated because she was not a significant enough character in lore to justify returning and gamemechanic wise yes youre correct. The main detail though is. Hakita didnt want to make v2 seem more important than she was. Gabriel on the other hand is extremely relevant, and i think deserves that triple round fight

@reinbew794

15 күн бұрын

V2 does appear in Violence though

@santanuroy3329

15 күн бұрын

@@daktotathecolossus7404 you do have a point, and i do agree that gabriel must return(he's the main character after all) however i think hakita will put his own niche twist in it.

Size 2 as final boss. Change my mind.

@thatfoxguy3410

14 күн бұрын

size 3

@manutosis598

14 күн бұрын

Size 4

How does bro keep dodging Gabriel being the final boss 😭😭

"It's a good thing you guys aren't designing the game, because it would suck." - Hakita. This video is so close to giving me an aneurysm. TL:DR: Almost everything you said in this video is wrong, and everything you say that was true had the wrong connotation. You just want the story of ULTRAKILL to be like Doom. Consider reading lore discussions every once in a while. With those tasteful words out of the way, I will now explain everything you got wrong within 8 minutes of runtime, the amount is quite impressive! General Information you somehow got wrong: ULTRAKILL is not a retelling of Dante's Inferno. I genuinely do not know who told you that or how you came up with that yourself. ULTRAKILL is Hakita's story. It's the Story of the late life of Gabriel. Gabriel is the main character of this story, not V1. The interpretation that V1 is the protagonist does not make sense in the slightest and I'm gonna list every reason why that is the case All of these can be found in the Hakita screenshot gdrive file. - Hakita has stated time and time again that V1 is not special. He also added that the fight between V1 and Gabriel was pure coincidence as Gabriel cannot be in multiple places at once. - Hakita has stated that V1 does not have any relation to the story happening around him. For the main character, he sure does not have nothing for his background. - Hakita has stated V1 and V2's creators do not matter. Why wouldn't they matter if V1 is an integral part of the story? - "what is Ultrakill if not Gabriel's story" a quote that came from Hakita and Francis. I genuinely do not know why everyone keeps trying to shove the agenda that V1 is something more than just another robot in hell. Yeah V1's ability is that he can siphon blood no problem but that's literally it. If being a prototype is special, the excavator corpse where we get the alt shotgun from is the main character of ULTRAKILL. V1 is only targeted by Gabriel because he defeated him. It could have been any other robot, and the result remains the same. It's why V1 was never referred to as V1 and is simply "Machine." He could literally be any other machine. Hakita does indeed subvert expectations, but every single time he had done so was for both thematic and fun purposes. V2 died because he might overstay his Welcome and get redundant, Gabriel is a more significant character in the story than V2 ever will (because it's HIS story). Ending the game WITHOUT Gabriel is a thematic shitpost as it's essentially reading through all of Dante's Inferno only for it to end as an Idol Manga without any buildup or foreshadowing whatsoever. Now, for the meaty parts. 1.) Hell Final boss. No. Straight up, no. There will be no Hell final boss. And it isn't because it's cliche either. This is because of two explicit reasons. - Killing Hell gives importance to V1. Something that directly contradicts the philosophy of V1's character - Gabriel is the Main Character. He has one last thing to settle before he finally dies. A lot of these theories fail because it either emphasizes a character that has nothing to do with the story (V1) by either teaming up with him or killing the very organism of Hell, or putting emphasis on the wrong character (Hell) by overextending the true extent of the character (he literally just likes to watch people suffer). 2.) V1 was tasked to destroy hell. Also no. Idk where you even got this from. Even if that were true who the hell tasked him? Mankind is dead. 3.) Alt Weapons. Honestly this one confuses me the most since I'm pretty sure you just made this one up. Hakita had stated that the Shotgun will be the last weapon to have a variant. I'm kinda confused on what's the thought process here as we've only ever gotten 1 alt weapon per Act. 4.) Judas and the 9-1 Crew Jesus does not exist in ULTRAKILL. The reason Judas is in treachery was because he betrayed Jesus Christ to the Romans. Why or who would Judas betray to be that significant that he'd be a sentient husk like Sisyphus or Minos? As for the rest of the crew, none of them would be there because ULTRAKILL history is different from real history. Most of the significant people in our time don't exist as 1 to 1, if at all. 5.) Gabriel You somehow sat through both Act 1 and Act 2 and still got his character wrong. He does not die because he killed the councilor, he dies because the light has been severed from him all the way back in Act 1. In Act 2, Gabe REALLY wants to kill Machine because he lost to an actual object, but later on realizes that the object has more free will than he ever had. V1 and Gabriel will never team up because Gabriel wants to settle their battle one final time. Gabriel also never betrayed the people of Heaven. Gabriel explicitly betrayed the Heavenly Council. There is no point in killing hell as Heaven has NOTHING to gain from doing so. Besides that, the Council is also too dead to even attempt doing so. Gabriel would never do it because he doesn't care. I would end this in a positive note but this video genuinely filled me with so much hatred for every We Kill Hell theories. I come off as condescending because I am. I do not like how the whole video is just wrong everywhere. If you want a consolation prize, the Gabriel Ice arena does sound lovely. That's it. Good day.

@TearMetoBitsDarling

14 күн бұрын

SPIT THY SHIT INDEED BROTHA 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥

@elfanperuanordr2147

10 күн бұрын

Lil bro no one is reading allat

@Ludwig_Perpenhente

10 күн бұрын

@@elfanperuanordr2147 When you reach God in heaven, let him let you know that your reasons will not be excused in the pearly gates.

@elfanperuanordr2147

10 күн бұрын

@@Ludwig_Perpenhente im sorry :(

@fuckyouv2fromultrakill

8 күн бұрын

@@elfanperuanordr2147 I read allat.

I do genuinely enjoy the idea of V1 and Gabriel teaming up and I can see why Gabriel might want to do it, but unless it’s a Gabriel shows up at the last bit to help out, I don’t understand why V1 wouldn’t just kill him. Unless there’s been some new lore about how V1 does its thing. From what I know it just kills shit to keep on living. There’s no other real motive. And I think it would be more fitting if V1 by itself, was able to destroy the thing that even God couldn’t undo because the machine was a little hungry.

@SomeCowguy

14 күн бұрын

Hungy wobot

@spoopykool

14 күн бұрын

There’s a lot of evidence to suggest that machines think and are sentient, V1 listening to bosses monologue and not attacking, the gutter man book, V2s opening moves(bowing and cracking their knuckles), in V2s second fight V1 says/thinks “your not getting away this time” plus a whole bunch of other stuff. It’s definitely possible for Gabriel to team up with V1 but there is 100% a possibility for him to not as well.

@invenotrainworld

14 күн бұрын

i think v1 killing hell by itself wouldn't really fit that much. v1 might be the player but at the end of the day gabe is the protagonist and killing hell would be the perfect way to end his character arc

@bananagod.

14 күн бұрын

@@spoopykool in the game everything with blood is sentient. also terminals are sentient in the lore. They got bored and got machines to enter hell for entertainment. thats why when you lose in the cyber grind you hear booing from a crowd. and the ranks are there so machines do more style

@amiano59e4

14 күн бұрын

​@@invenotrainworld plus having gabriel steal the kill from you seems like a perfect "fuck u bich" moment after we kicked his ass twice/thrice

I think that Gabriel will team up with V1, or he will team up with the other LAST machines alive in hell (Swordmachines, Turrets, Mindflayers) to KILL V1. I would be glad to see it that way. (Although Hakita will probably do everything exactly in a way that no one would have thought).

@weresteres

15 күн бұрын

By Turrets you mean sentrys or like actual turrets like we see in the earthmover fight?

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

This doesn’t work well with information we already know from Gabe’s terminal entry. He finally sees V1 as a challenge and will try hard to overcome the machine. In the intermission he admits to the councilor that he knows he will die , so why not die trying to best the thing that made you gain a whole new perspective on life? It’s stated by many that Hakita always does subversions but there is a reason for them, it’s not just for surprise and shock value.

@guerranoturna5860

14 күн бұрын

​@@weresteresyes

@monwyn8538

14 күн бұрын

i had a similar idea, mine is gabriel will literally team up with us in level(s) to kill all the machines and souls to free them from the cruelty god himself regrettedly recreated, the final boss would be hell itself, and then it will be a bonus bossfight of V1/gabriel dual to the death, V1 won (obviously) but it's then left to slowly starve in an empty world as there is no longer blood on earth to feed on and V1 cant reach heavens (cuz it's on another planet or smt im not christian) it doesnt need to happen but it's such a cool scenario

@bravenden3794

14 күн бұрын

@@weresteres Both

you forgot about one specific Gabriel Dialogue in his 2nd fight.. "We will meet again Machine"

2:29 “It couldn’t be Satan because he doesn’t exist in Ultrakill.” 5-S Testament IV Line 8 “AND I CAST LUCIFER, TOO. INTO THE INFERNAL DEN”

Gabriel has a picnic with you 😔

@goober130

14 күн бұрын

gabriel picnic in the winter would go crazy as an april fools 9-S level (april fools cause gluttony and heresy are prime sanctums)

here is how i think everything will go: 9-1 will be a gauntlet of some kind, and after the gauntlet in 9-1, we go over to 9-2, then we fight gabriel, but we cant go any deeper, as were already in the deepest layer, and as gabriel dies from his wounds finally accepting his fate, hell realizes the only plaything it has now is V-1, and with V-1 shutting down due to lack of blood and fuel, hell now has nothing, all of its toys are gone, and all it can do is just watch at everything its caused, happy, but sad it ended so quickly, overall i think the hell part might not be in the final level, but most likely ULTRAKILL isnt going to end on a good ending

@adonouwataam3616

14 күн бұрын

i actually like this theory. if that ends up happening, i want hell to torture v1 by giving it blood when he's about to shut down, that way v1 stays as hell's plaything for eternity. although the end is probably gonna be completely different cuz hakita likes messing with us.

@Digitalsmile2

13 күн бұрын

@@adonouwataam3616 oooo, that actually seems like hakita would do that

@averageUltrakill_enjoyer

8 күн бұрын

So P-3 just doesn't exist now?

@Digitalsmile2

7 күн бұрын

@@averageUltrakill_enjoyer well i have no theorys on what P-3 will be, so i didnt include it

I think it would be really cool if Ultrakill ended with you fighting Gabriel with 3 health bars, but the last health bar is a phase change like V2, where Gabriel gives you one of his swords (the yellow arm) and you unequip all your other weapons out of respect as you two have a sword duel to the death.

@I_EatKids

15 күн бұрын

I highly doubt that robots care about emotions and morality.

@k0rami

15 күн бұрын

so the last bar is a british sword fight

@isntduality

15 күн бұрын

"show me a good time, V1."

@weresteres

15 күн бұрын

Why would v1 have respect? Sure she listens to dialogues and wait for v2 to cracks his knuckles, but I thing that just her try to analyse and gather as much data and information as possible before began the fight (and to also know if the entity is a foe or not and if it's a threat or not by waiting if it's going to attack, after all why would she risk losing fuel or die if there is a possible option the entity is not hostile). Another alternative is that Gabriel will somehow destroyed all of v1 arsenal and give one of his sword to truly have a fair fight.

@k0rami

15 күн бұрын

@@weresteres who's "her"

I think treachery is gonna have red as its main-color Gluttony was red, heresy was red, they were the crescendo finale of both acts, and gabe was the final boss of both. Then again, gabe was sky-daddy's good boy, so, maybe it won't, as he's changed. If it is red, I like to think it'll be either because; it just is, or; A theory I saw from a reddit comment, treachery being landfilled with the blood and carnage of the upper layers

@techietisdead

15 күн бұрын

Imagine heaven dlc?

@notjebbutstillakerbal

14 күн бұрын

Red ice

@givlupi2686

14 күн бұрын

That's some really flimsy logic, basing the idea entirely on two layers coincidentally having the same color. It doesn't make sense for Hakita to base his layer designs on that, as everything is inspired by Dante's Inferno.

@onyxdragon622

14 күн бұрын

Maybe the ice could be stained somewhat red in the layer- contrasting the blues and whites of snowy environment? All of mankind is dead, after all, and people had to go somewhere I guess.

@vibey4649

13 күн бұрын

​​@@givlupi2686 I'm just feeling a general pattern, my dude. They're the only two layers that share the same color, (but differet shadss)

There will be a lot of technology, a factory or something, we still don't know who the fuck augmented husks and stalkers if it isn't hell itself

@boxmantherandom

15 күн бұрын

the thing is it IS hell itself

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

The ARG that shows that Hell is alive shows us that Hell augmented the Husks

@-Metalblaster-

14 күн бұрын

Heck, we don't even know who the fuck made the minotaur

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

@@-Metalblaster- we do. We really do. INFORMATION BLAST. Some points you didn’t say but this is just a message I responded to some else about No, Minotaur has nothing to do with P-3. It is VERY unlikely that the Minotaur was created by someone other than Hell, much less a figure whose name is redacted and even then points more to Hell than a person as Hell is always being vaguely mentioned and directly naming it is avoided. There have been books talking about the prime in their respective layer, Violence was about the machines/ little drops of information that focuses on Hell as a character and hopefully fraud is about demons but the P-3 Prime will be named in Fraud. “Hell Itself” fits in the thing. Terminal entry for the Leviathan says that the same force that made it made the other demons. What made the Mannequins? Hell did. Another point after reading some of House of Leaves (and the whole red crossed out text is a reference to house of leaves and some inspiration for the game) is that the Minotaur in the book is related to the House. The House is a non Euclidean space that can just make things appear. Hell is non Euclidean and acts as a “House” in both the fact that it works on Dream logic and it is made to house sinners. This parallel can be applied to ULTRAKILL and Hell made the Minotaur. As for the “building rapport” sentence, this has the same answer as why Hell allowed Minos to build the city. Variety is the spice of life.

@boxmantherandom

14 күн бұрын

@@-Metalblaster- it is most likely also hell itself

Hey first of all I wanted to thank you for this video! Things like these hype me up, make me happy and sad that ULTRAKILL is nearing its end. I REALLY like the idea of Hell being the last boss, but at the same time, this doesn't seem like it. We need to have in mind P-3 aswell, seeing how in P-2 for example Sisyphus recognizes you killed Minos, these seem to be canonical and follow the main path of the game to a degree. So either complete destruction of Hell or V1 is not gonna be it, or Hell gets destroyed and P-3 happens in the surface.

I imagine V1 reaching the deepest part of hell. You see the heart, the boss health bar appears but Gabriel coming from above pierces it. Grabriel starts laughing, then he salutes you, throws an epic monologue and the fight starts.

It would be cool if we saw other archangels like Michael in 9-2. From what I've heard he is depicted as a warrior or healer, and there are numerous paintings of him fighting. What if we go with Gabriel into the final room of 9-2 and we see Michael slay Lucifer and then we fight him. I'm also excited to see what P-3 has in store. I personally don't think there'll be new alternate weapons but I would love more

@amiano59e4

14 күн бұрын

"personally dont think there'll be new alt weapons" this. i am also expecting no new alt weapons cus the lasergun and rocket launcher are fine on their own and while yes you could PROBABLY make something new for them or use the unused weapons i just dont see it happening. but who knows hakita could pull a shotgun blast on us

What you said is insane and i fucking love it

I think a new husk enemy that does ranged attacks while trapped in the ice would be pretty cool bc getting buried in ice was a punishment for treachary in the divine comedy

@cIIII91r_

15 күн бұрын

so just sentry but shoots hell balls and cant get up?

“we all know hakita doesnt do cliché” pitches the cheesiest team up sequence finale of all time

What I wanted the final boss to be (but it probably won’t be) is Lucifer, but only about half the fight. After you kill his first health bar, Gabriel disturbs the fight much like Sisyphus breaks the panopticon in the middle of the fight and you have to fight him instead

There's no more alt weapons, the full arsenal update stated that the arsenal was complete (the only thing left would be the yellow arm), and, since every act gives out an alternate weapon, there would have to be a 4th act. Also, the creatures of hell aren't a hivemind controlled by hell, they all just attack V1 because it's the biggest threat in the room. Enemy infighting in 7-3 was explained as the fight having already started before V1 got there

@MandarkVonShadd

13 күн бұрын

It was explanation, until some of gametesters theorized that enemies want to feed trees, which hakita found way cooler explanation

@goober130

6 күн бұрын

and also, swordsmachine was shown multiple times killing assorted husks in PRELUDE

i dont think there will be alt rocket or railcannon. the full arsenal update is called that for a reason

@bananagod.

14 күн бұрын

in the description of the full arsenal update it says ''your arsenal is now complete.''

I have a little thought that could happened, if after layer 9, grabriel dies, V1 finds a way to go up to heaven and make another mass murder up there, that could be like a dlc or a new game of ultrakill, something like that, and in case that gabriel doesn't die, he could team up with V1 and go to heaven for kill everyone and even god, I think that could be a great idea for make the game a bit more longer

Hakita himself said that lucifer/Satan exists in ultrakill but we won't fight him in a screenshot

I could see 9-2 being a fight against Gabriel before a secret final level opens where you descend even further and face off against hell itself. For the P level, I could see God himself being the prime soul as the previous testament implies that he tried to kill himself but couldn't (I starred into the abyss but the abyss averted my gaze) meaning that the only way he could punish himself would be sealing him away in a prison (actually maybe he used hell itself one last time to turn it into a flesh prison for himself)

@engikneegming8389

15 күн бұрын

Interesting idea of hell itself being a flesh prison

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

Prime sanctums only have prime souls, and prime souls can only come from Husks as the terminal entry says. God LEFT the universe, he’s not around at all. While he’s not dead, he is not around in any capacity. The angels in Hell would have found him at this point. Fighting against Hell itself is like a fight against an eldritch god. It can teleport enemies to you,seal off doorways, and have the layers inside itself stretch to immeasurable distances. It dying would disrupt it watching entertainment, something it definitely doesn’t want.

@goober130

14 күн бұрын

i think judas prime would go pretty hard, someone already made a theme, a flesh tesseract idea, and voicelines

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

Judas prime would be a fan/modded boss, as Jesus doesn’t exist

@bananagod.

14 күн бұрын

prime soulds are extras and dont matter too much in the story. also hakita said we wont meet god or satan

if gabriel and v1 dont kiss and then the credits roll im refunding the game

I dont know why are people expecting new weapons or new alts when the last update was literally called the FULL ARSENAL update

i got ultrakill last week and it has been so much fun, espacially with the chainsaw :) rn in 7-2 still need to complete it, i'll see if i do minos and sisyphus

I hope Gabriel teams up with us.

Alt Railcannon prediction: A shovel. JUST KIDDING! It’s gonna be a Plasma Cannon for sure

@SillyGuy67

15 күн бұрын

Since its "icy" the shovel kinda make sense ngl lol

I would say something like 9-1: Enemy gauntlet + gabriel bossfight 9-2: Lucifer bossfight and in P-3 Hell is the flesh prison/panopticon of the other levels, except that instead of releasing a prime soul, he releases God who V1 then destroys. (this would explain God's absence; he was trapped by Hell, maybe even voluntarily seeing as he "began to seek the end" of his days)

=SPOILERS= ... I laughed so hard when he said Gabriel and V1 were going to team up to kill hell. I truly mean no hate but that is absolutely where theory became fanfic, I'm sorry

i've been saying this but just to say it again: treachery is an icy wasteland, hakita gave us slippery oil, treachery's gonna have ice physics and we're gonna either hate it or love it

I think its gonna be very sigma

Full arsenal means that there will be NO new alts, and both rocket- and railc- cannon are already powerful weapons which don't need alts And no, Gabriel have much less hours to live, he has 24 when 4-1, and killing the council took the only chance to remove the ticking clock of death Hell itself.... Sounds believable, but looks like it's not going to the hell itself

Something I can see happens my for Treachery is that 9-1 would have V1 fighting Gabriel, dueling atop an icy plain with various enemies getting caught in the crossfire. Acting as the ending to the game. This would be followed by 9-2 acting as an epilogue where V1 delves though icy tunnels within the layer that lead down. The level having a mechanic where various enemies are trapped in the ice, having to be dug out by V1 with their attacks to kill them for their blood. 9-2 would end at the door to P3 at the lowest point of the level, giving two endings. Ending 1 would have V1 not meet the requirements for P3, leading to them shutting down with no more blood to fuel them, this ending being acquired at least once to get the P rank of 9-2. Ending 2 would have V1 make the requirements for P3, allowing the door to P3 to open. Speaking of P3, I can see it as being a level where V1 ascends through hell, hitching a ride on the Prime Soul of P3 who could be making an attempt to escape from hell after crossing paths with V1.

4 views in 1 minute gronf fell off

Personally I think gabriel will be The final boss of treachery, because if you think about it, Gabriel is the main character. The entire story so far has been about Gabriel, and I think it would make the most sense for his story to conclude with the end of the game. (Also I think v1 is gonna die in 9-2)

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

V1 won’t die though, ending of V1’s fate has been confirmed to be vague by Hakita. Also, would invalidate P3

@marzz-eu2nt

14 күн бұрын

@@OST-jp4cc tragic

bet it will be some insane lore hell thing

I think gabriel will help V1 finish the last boss, which probably could be the god of ultrakill, who left and has fallen to turn into the devil/hell's hivemind

Fuck it, V2's corpse final boss.

personally, i think if hell itself ends up being the final boss, it would be similar to the final boss of spooky's jumpscare mansion, a humanoid figure with no skin, bleeding out but almost always impossible to reach. (also i think it would be unlikely, but having the final layer be mechanical like the prelude would be sick)

3:37 as of the new update there probably won’t be new alts because it was called “full arsenal” and im pretty sure we have v1’s full arsenal now cause of it

I really like the idea of a boss rush level. I think that would be really fun

Plot twist: The name we've been given is a lie and we're actually just gonna storm heaven and fight the Doom Slayer in a trial by combat

The thing I find most compelling about Gabriel being the final boss is two thing 1. Hakita has specifically avoided explicit Christian imagery, making traditional symbols have new meaning. This would preclude Satan from the game, as it is so explicitly Abrahamic. However, I do think Satan may be a set piece, or maybe someone like Lucifer being the Prime Soul (Fits with the treachery layer as an angel that was corrupted by hell) 2. It's how you would finish Gabriel's arc, Him first being overconfident in his battle against the machine, then being stripped of the chance to fulfill his ambition (Gluttony) followed by the destruction of the council (Heresy) Treachery is the final step, as he goes against the will of God, and attempts to destroy Hell itself.

@OST-jp4cc

11 күн бұрын

Angels can’t go prime and Lucifer would either be dead now or tortured by Hell, wondering why he did wrong to anger his creator.

"together, we are ultrakill!" ahh theory

mean after me it makes sense twistfully that we fight gabriel in 9-1 so we get anxiety because there is another mision left.

@OST-jp4cc

5 күн бұрын

Too much buildup for Gabe to not be the final boss

My main disagreement is a simple one, being that the railcannon and rocket launcher will never get an alternate variant, unless some form of post-game content is added later on. I have a few reasons for thinking this such as: There has only been one alt weapon per act and suddenly having 3 in the final act wouldn't really make sense. The railcannon wouldn't work with an alt variant because it will likely use less than a full charge but therefore make the regular variant take much longer to recharge (sort of like firing split shot with Ion's primary weapon in Titanfall 2 using the charge of its abilities) The rocket launcher probably won't get one too just because then there'd be a sort of passive barrier, with the 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 5th, not 4th weapons having alt variants And most of all, the last major update was called 'The *full* arsenal' for a reason :3

Erm, aktuajlly, The Full Arsenal update says that the weapons we have now are all the weapons that we will get until the end of the game, so it is very probable that we won't get a railcannon or rocket launcher alternative version

Weird little idea: 9-2 is basically little bits of the entirety of ultrakill, made dozens of times harder, with bits of hell´s organs at the end of each part. the last two enemies will be either: a structure like the flesh prison / panopticon, with more interesting attacks, different spins on other projectiles, etc. holding god, whose sins count a trillion, his corpse mutilated in the background with the last bits of his sanity held in his soul fighting his very own treachery and heresy in an eternal dance of blinding light and wretched tendrils all toward the final beings, mirage, and gabriel. or the brain of hell, with confusing effects and game-y attacks, a near omniscient giant we have to catch off-guard after each of the weaving swings or punishing chasing projectiles. Both make sense, both could fit the game, both could be it. maybe, just maybe, we will go through a fight with the latter, cutting the stem and finally piercing hell´s heart, then rush toward purgatory, wherein god waits I feel like we need one or two homing weapons within the chaos of this game, which would probably replace the railcannon (following the ideas of medieval german play "der Freischütz", where two men harvest seeds that would strike any target the bearer of the bow desired to hit, but all sevenths would fly back toward the shooter; this weapon would be hidden within the layer of lust.) A freezing weapon found in treachery makes sense, though I prefer the idea of a seemingly magical thundrous weapon unlocked through tests within wrath.

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

No more alts, it’s the full arsenal update for a reason. If it’s made dozens of times harder, how would first time players beat it?

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

God left, he is NOT dead. That is what the whole 7-D terminal was about. God could not kill himself. There is no Hod corpse anywhere because God ain’t dead.

Also a atl raincanon Ideia a I have is too make the raingun use the eletric meter constantly instead of chaging it to full and using it all at once, so the eletric vaiant for example would dimish the meter while attacking with eletric shocks

Imagine 9-2 The Spawn Becomes The Boss And After Beating It With Gabriel He just dies leaving V1 To Search For More Blood only to realize theres No more blood as he sat Down next to gabriel Before permanently shutting down

Ok, I have a couple of crack theories, but please hear me out. First, I think that the Gabriel fight will be majorly shaken up somehow, my favorite idea is that Gabriel let’s hell give him some sort of mechanical augmentation, like how hell gives soldiers their gunarm. This would be really interesting characterization wise, because it has been shown that Gabriel is starting to see that every living thing is equal and that could be shown with Gabriel accepting an offering from hell to become stronger by being more like v1. This could be in 8-4 and then 9-2 being a fight against hell which could be a swarm based boss, with new but similar enemies, like maybe fusion enemies with drone + soldiers or gutter man + cleaning crew. Then P-3 could be a multi phase boss with the two other guys in satan’s mouth, satan, and then Judas Prime. Basically all of this is hopeful thinking, but is still possible lore wise. Hope you enjoyed reading this way to long rant.

@lukestark6248

12 күн бұрын

Actually thinking about it more, satan could act as the flesh prison for the guys in his mouth and all three are prime souls.

layer 9 would be perfect to introduce the excavator enemy in 7-2 for the alternate shotgun

I won’t be surprised if the final boss is satan which is most obvious then when he is at like 1 Hp, Gabriel shows up and finishes him off and you got to fight gabs again

@OST-jp4cc

3 күн бұрын

Lucifer showing up other than being a set piece doesn’t really make sense

I think it’s most likely that Gabriel is gonna end up being layer 9’s boss (as that’s what he was built up to be), with hell itself being either the P-3 boss or a super boss on a following finale-esque level

@OST-jp4cc

13 күн бұрын

You know Prime sanctums are named after PRIME SOULS, a thing that only comes from HUSKS, focusing on anything else is dumb. Fighting or killing Hell is comparable to a bug being crushed by a city. Hell teleports enemies around, it is completely capable of doing the same to V1 and even does so. Who do you think chooses where the Hellevetors pop up? Also, if God couldn’t undo Hell, how would V1, a lesser being than God, even do it?

@addsp1233

13 күн бұрын

@@OST-jp4cc true, although I can see Hakita designing hell itself to be akin to a flesh prison-like boss fight, I see the fault in my original theory. However, as hell itself is distinctly stated to be alive, that means there's something keeping it alive, such as a core or heart. I do believe at the very least hell itself is going to be fightable, but it's entirely possible that it would end up as a forced loss.

what if v1 makes friends with hell and they all say "we...are...ultrakill!" and then the credits roll

@goober130

6 күн бұрын

v1 using the SAM voice and hell using that one demon/zombie voice effect say "Together, we will Ultrakill." in unison as they head up to heaven

truthfully i think any theory of Gabriel teaming up with V1 is stupid, V1 is a robot out for blood, it would not give a damn about teaming up for shit, nor would it have any concept of trust, unless Gabriel decides to secretly help in the background somehow and just pops in to land the final blow.

I'd love a dmc3 style finale, Gabriel and V1 teamp up and destroy whatever is lurking down in 9-2, they then realise that they're both going to die, Gabriel without God's light, and V1 without fuel, so they battle it out one last time, maybe as the credits play, again, DMC style

I feel like the final boss is going to be something we won't expect like god

i dont know if gabriel actually still has 24 hours left because at the end of his murder cutscene he had his holy glow back

I don't know if anyone talked about this but I think having a sort of 4 act like prelude but named finale where we will fight hell as final boss would be a thing Hakita can make. Maybe he said somewhere that there will not be 4 act idk but gap between 3 act and p levels makes me feel that there should be something

I also want a Hell bossfight! It's a prominent character throught Layer 7, so there is no reason not to have Hell as the final boss. But I alwayd imagined it as a final, desperate attempt of Hell trying to kill V1, maybe V1 going through small sections of each layer with enemy placements bumped up to 11. Then, V1 would reach Hell's core, or heart, or whatever it could be, where the thing would have bullet hell like attacks similiar to Flesh Prison and Panopticon. Similiar to Earthmover basically

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

If God couldn’t undo Hell, and from clues from Hakita screen shots it’s because of how complex is, how would V1 even do it? If God couldn’t, it’s impossible for V1 to do it. And this is ignoring the powers Hell has such as changing the landscape of itself and teleporting things around itself

What if in the end, V1 goes against a boss that has no blood and can't be defeated, then the player (as V1) dies and the game ends with a cutscene of V1's last moments in hell as it gets taken apart and destroyed. Then the cycle starts again and the game restarts story wise.

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

Restarts are not canon. It ruins the theme of “live your life to the fullest” when you can just come back from the dead

If an alt freezes enemies, it would guaranteed have to be hitscan and AOE making it more likely to be a railcanon variant

@OST-jp4cc

13 күн бұрын

No more new alts. Confirmed by devs. Also the pattern of one Alt per Act is apparently ignored.

Wouldn’t Gabriel as a prime soul be cool? If he dies in the last level he could become a prime soul. Also I feel like the game has set it up for him too

@StickBreightley

14 күн бұрын

A story all about how living in the moment and making the most of the time you have left would be completely ruined if the main character could just choose not to die Not to mention that angels don’t have an afterlife like humans do and can’t become Prime Souls to begin with

I’m pretty sure hakita said in some discord message you wont be fighting any god/satan type enemy (Citation needed), and I wouldn’t bet on a final boss that’s not Gabriel, or at least including Gabriel for 9-1 or 9-2, though P-3 is completely up for debate about what’s in it. Other then that good video

I feel like hell itself would either be P-3 or maybe even a sort of true ending level that you get for beating (not p ranking) every prime sanctum level Because we never actually find out about hell itself being alive outside of P-2s ARG, so the final boss being hell itself would make no sense at all if you never went out of your way to beat P-2 or do its connected ARG

@alpine8590

15 күн бұрын

Also gabe and v better kiss or I'm gonna kms

@OST-jp4cc

12 күн бұрын

Hell would absolutely not be a prime sanctum or some fight after beating the prime sanctums. Hakita said he is not going to have a “P-P” fight for p ranking the prime sanctums, and Prime Sanctums focus on PRIME SOULS, the whole name and reason for them existing. Hakita has said his disdain for hiding away main story content behind very tough challenges for new players. The primes go background but they don’t affect the future.

Couple notes: A friend of mine did joke about 7-S premesis when we were debating it before release, joking about viscera clean up detail Why would there be another alternate beyond the jackhammer? (Based on the trend, only 1 alt variant per act of the game, within the first layer of each act) Ofc P-3 will be the real final boss of the game, but storywise the official final boss will be in treachery, possibly with a direct reveal to P-ranking level rewards in the prime sanctums in case the player hasn't figured that out yet, but most likely not as hakita doesn't often hand things directly to the player Ofc the film from the custom levels being used in implications, it's worth mentioning that no matter what we predict and even how developed the custom level lore is hakita could just as well still throw us for a loop, as he has many times before

No matter how cool Hell Itself as a boss fight would be, it cannot be the final boss of the basic game. We only learn about Hell being alive in the ARG and are hinted towards it only in P levels, so if we are gonna fight it, it is gonna be either in P-3, although I doubt it because the point of P levels is to show how strong humans can be in this world of angels and monstrosities, or in some kind of P-P level that you get for P-ranking all of the previous P levels, perhaps? Also there is a possibily that we will be able to fight Hell only in encore levels, likewise we will be able to properly fight Flesh Panopticon in the encore P-2. Perhaps encore P-3? I dunno. Gabriel is a hard one, because we do not actually know what he wants to do now, when he is finally free. He could fight us, he could try to become allies with us, although I dont think V1 wants any allies and Gabriel knows that. What I know almost for a fact is that he will die from his Light being severed, not from our hands. Only alternative I can see is the reveal to both our and Gabriel's surprise that he does not actually need God's Light to sustain himself and it was another lie of the Counsel or maybe even God, but I doubt it. Maybe he will break all the rules and after dying will turn into a Prime Soul? Maybe he ventured into Hell to save his brother Lucifer and we will have to fight two angels at the same time? Also I dont think Treachery will have any new enemies or mechanics, just like Gluttony and Heresy laked any new content. Final levels are there to test your knowledge, not to teach you something new. And we already have both slippery mechanic (oil) and nimble spider enemies (mannequins). There definitely will be no new weapons or arms there too, for the same reason. Again, there might be alternative weapons for railgun and rocket launcher in the encore levels, but then we have another problem: we have only two guns with no alternatives left, but we've got three encore Acts. Maybe gain one at the end of the Act with third one missing because lol, why would you need another weapon after beating the game twice? Also railgun is already basically requires you to choose only one once per 15 seconds, so adding another 3 variants to choose from may be a little bit too much. Anyway, would really like to hear your opinion on potential P-3 and all the ways Hakita can make us loose our minds again, because it would be quite hard to top the P-2 experience. P.S. I called 7-S being powerwasher simulator somehow. And the day when the update came in I though to myself: if I was gonna make a powerwasher simulator joke, I would give like a room of enemies to fight and then just forced player to clean all the mess they've caused. I laughed so hard when I played the level.

my idea for destroying hell itself would be this: The core of hell explodes, and because it's dead hell starts collapsing. Maybe it could be like Metroid where you have to go back through the layers and then Gabriel could help V1 get out of hell before it collapses and maybe implodes.

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

V1 won’t destroy Hell, God couldn’t do it so how could V1? This would also affect P-3. P-3 takes place after p ranking 9-2 so if that were the ending, it would invalidate P-3. Hakita has said he will keep the ending vague and attempt to make it satisfying

I would really like that the alt rocket launcher is a mine launcher that shoots the same mines that the guttertanks uses, and the weapom could work like the sticky bomb launcher from tf2. Mines are way too good for the player to not have it

I think Hakita has said that we will not fight Hell directly, I believe he sees Hell Itself as a lovecraftian entity too powerful and abstract to fight which makes sense

the ultrakill was the friends we made in the way

another banger video

Gronf, I think the alternate for the rail canon will be a lazer beam weapon, high damage but also high reload like the normal railgun. So it'll kinda be like using a lightsaber but ranged.

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

No more alts, confirmed by Victora

Imagine that after beating the final boss theres a cutscenes where V1 blood become lows and will get shut down and then v1 sit on a spot then die in the cold hell where no one will looking for him

@OST-jp4cc

12 күн бұрын

Hakita has said that he will keep the ending of what happens to V1 after the Gabriel fight vaguely to allow for a sequel should he ever need the money.

@DESTROY777-gp3md

11 күн бұрын

@@OST-jp4ccWAIT SECOND GAME????!

@OST-jp4cc

11 күн бұрын

@@DESTROY777-gp3md yeah, if he ever needs the money. Doesn’t want to be known as the ultrakill guy forever

I can see V1 teaming up with Gabriel at the end considering how much inspiration Ultrakill takes from Devil May Cry. And it's not too much of a stretch since Gabriel shows respect for V1 after the fight in Heresey

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

It’s a stretch to say they will kill Hell. It is a stretch to say that they even know Hell is alive. Pretty sure if the dimension you were staying in was alive, you’d want to escape as much as possible or write it. Only the terminals know that Hell is alive. V1 and Gabe won’t team up because that whole plot line wouldn’t work. God was unable to undo Hell, V1 and Gabe are lesser than God so they definitely have no chance. The inspiration ULTRAKILL will take from DMC is the Gold arm at the end from Gabe. That is the most logical conclusion

i feel like hakita is trying to make gabriel the lucifer of his story as in the most powerful angel of them all going against god and being sent down to hell

@OST-jp4cc

3 күн бұрын

I mean, he didn’t really go against God, he went against the people that twisted God’s word for themselves.

I feel like the yellow arm will be gained in 8-4 or 9-1 with a cutscene of Gabriel killing/fighting Lucifer and losing his arm thus giving us the yellow arm, but allowing us to fight Gabriel and having Lucifer dead.

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

Please just say Lucifer and not “The devil.” The idea of “The devil” exists in Heaven but do not make the mistake of thinking Lucifer is some powerful being in Hell or a fighter. Lucifer was betrayed by God and cast into Hell. The only two things that could have happened is Lucifer is dead from the fall into Hell or is being tortured by Hell.

@user-lq4bc7ob2c

14 күн бұрын

@@OST-jp4cc alr

My heart goes out to Clan Shatter-Shield. Kin murdered, family warhammer stolen... There's no fairness in all that.

"gabriel will join v1 to destroy hell itself" as if it will ever happen

I don’t think our mortal minds can truly predict what hakita will make next

i think the final boss is gonna be some wild ass lore of god coming back to stop us

I don't think hakita will make another alternate gun, since he's only made 1 alternate gun per act, but if he did an ice layer it would probably have a couple reflective surfaces throughout the layer you can reflect railcannon off of.

If Hell is the final boss of Ultrakill, than I think an attack where it summons puppet versions of major bosses to fight would be cool

@OST-jp4cc

14 күн бұрын

Blood puppets will only appear once as them appearing again would cheapen their appearance in 7-3. They remain a mystery, like something wicked. This is why they don’t get a terminal entry and this is talked about in the second dev stream. The option to puppets enemies is left in for modders, just like the whole excavator model was left in for modders.

@sstandby

14 күн бұрын

PUPPETED SISYPHUS PRIME!!!!111!1!1!!

I want that, but then after killing hell we fight gabriel one last time. He doesn't fight us out of vengeance or hate, but out of wanting one last battle before he dies.

@OST-jp4cc

11 күн бұрын

Second part is right, first is wrong. Don’t you think if Hell could die, God would have killed it? Not any this, but like the enemies, Hell could just simply teleport V1 into a lava pit or anything else inescapable if it even threatened Hell’s life.