Latinos started HipHop 50/50 with black people

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  • @RaymondBrown-xw4cj
    @RaymondBrown-xw4cj6 ай бұрын

    WHAT EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT CHRONOLOGICAL BLACK AMERICAN CULTURAL HISTORY: Hip hop came directly out of The Black Power/Black Is Beautiful/ Black Arts Movement of the 1960's &1970's. This was the most culturally and politically active era in African American history. The teen contingent of the movement played out as presented on Soul Train produced by Don Cornelius beginning 1970 when the show was nationally broadcast from Chicago from 1970 to the end of 1971. He moved the show to LA, but he took several of his teen dancers with him to ensure the dance quality of the show would remain the same after the move. The TV show became our most powerful Black teen cultural influence for 36 years. Soul Train hit American popular culture like a cultural tsunami. It instantly eclipsed Dick Clark's American Bandstand in international popularity. Chicago is the capitol of African American Blues and Gospel Music. Chicago due to The Great Migration is Mississippi once removed. Chicago developed the best social dancers in Black America. Michael Jackson comes from that dance enclave. Because break dancing had been a part of the Chicago dance lexicon since the 1950's, most likely influenced by the Black dance crews seen on TV variety shows in the 1950's, the Chicago teens on Soul Train showcased break dancing as part of their dance repertoire. For the first time in or cultural history we had a national stage to spotlight Black music stars, show-off old and new Black dances, and to premiere new Black talent. Teens across this nation copied the break dancing seen on Soul Train, including The Black Spades. They sang James Brown's (who was a frequent guest on ST) "Soul Power." They personalized it by singing "Spade Power! They put their influence on break dancing to make it uniquely their own. James Brown's "Say It Loud, I'm Black and I'm Proud" was the Black teen national anthem. Those who recognize James Brown as the Godfather of hip hop, rarely mention the Black Power aspect of what he was promoting, along with other Black Protest stars like Curtis Mayfield (Movin' On Up), Nina Simone (To Be Young Gifted and Black), and Marvin Gaye (What's Goin' On album sold 2M albums in 30 days) among many others, that sparked the impetus for Black teen heightened involvement. The Black Arts Movement elevated rhyming Black Protest poets like H Rap Brown, Amir Baraka, Sonia Sanchez, Don L. Lee aka Haki Madhubuti, The Last Poets, and Mari Evans among others, to the forefront as the rapping voices of Black Power that politicized Black American teens. This Black teen cultural revolution was televised. Neither Puerto Ricans nor Jamaicans were singing, dancing, rapping about, nor identifying with our Black Is Beautiful/Black Power/Black Arts Movement. They still don't. Their great jealousy grew out of the international excitement generated by Black American teens dancing on national TV that did not include them. Because the broadcast came out of Chicago, not NYC, it singularly showcased Black American teens only. Soul Train is the genesis of the NYC PR and Jamaican great cultural jealousy. The emergence of The Black Spades Black Power gang culture gave PRs in the Bronx a local Black cultural expression they could cosplay in their jealous quest to leech the Black American teen international pop culture spotlight. Their desire for the same fame that Black teens had, is the reason NYC PRs in mass set aside their long-standing antipathy towards NYC African Americans in order to surreptitiously enter their ranks to gain acceptance so they could cosplay Black American dance, music and style. Five plus decades later Latinos have delusionally convinced themselves that they actually created what they effetely copied. Anyone who speaks about the development of hip hop and doesn't mention the worldwide influence the Black Is Beautiful/Black Power/Black Arts Movement or the impact of Soul Train, they don't know what they are talking about. The 10 years following the assassination of MLK, Black America was politically and culturally ablaze. Hip hop grew directly out of the tenor of those times. No immigrant group was powerful enough to influence Black American teen music, dance, nor style during that Black Power period, no matter where they were located. All other teens, white American teens and white college students, American immigrant teens in and outside of NYC, and teens around the world copied the powerful music, dance, and political colloquialisms (like "Right-On" and "Power To The People!") presented by African Americans from various regions across this nation. Contemporary self-aggrandizing cultural history revisionists like Colon and certain descendants of island immigrants have chosen the most active, the most vocal, and the most recorded period in Black American history to try and hijack. All their ever-changing revisionist folklore narratives are continually being debunked by authentic Black Americans, because they have no visual or journalistic documented evidence to support their delusional wishful claims, nor do they present acceptable reasoning that ratifies Puerto Rican/Jamaican bizarre demands to force their way into African American culture that resists their irrational intrusions.

  • @face111corona

    @face111corona

    14 күн бұрын

    Soooo, the south Bronx has been predominantly latino since the 50's. The block party was in this environment. The first photographer to document this movement is latino. The DJ's were afro latino. This was a Caribbean community. The Caribbean is the birthplace of slavery in the new world. Hip hop is a concerted effort to fight poverty. Hip hop originates with war drums and hunger... Puerto ricans and Jamaicans come from slavery. Soul train had a lot of women who were latin. I grew up watching and loving the message. Hip hop is an artform that starts with the cry for freedom. All of us urban youth were tuned in, sharing this vibe. United we stand divided we fall. Stop fighting for the scraps. Black Americans should know better than trying to appropriate an artform that originates from an immigrant neighborhood. Hip Hop unifies, which threatens the power base. Work smarter not harder fellas. Soul train showcased the music and dance, this was integral for us. I agree, but how u gonna sidestep the graffiti and the females...?

  • @mrblack8272
    @mrblack827219 күн бұрын

    He was not there and they know that. Hip hop started in 71 and this dude talking about Bimmy was in pics with run DMc. Man Run DMC was the 80s

  • @seancannon1985
    @seancannon19852 күн бұрын

    How? In what capacity🤷🏾‍♂️ Them contributing to breaking is not creating!!! Besides nobody from our culture is even breaking anymore. We done came out p with a hundred dances since we gave it to them in the 80s🎯💯

  • @malcolminthemiddle8777
    @malcolminthemiddle87777 күн бұрын

    Microphone check

  • @skillet6870
    @skillet68703 ай бұрын

    American music forms: Spirituals, Blues, Ragtime, Jazz, Country, Gospel, Bluegrass, Folk, Rock n Roll, Doo-Wop, Soul, Funk, Disco, Punk, House and of course Rap and Hip Hop---all enjoy well documented African American roots coupled with undeniable Black American influence---whether directly or indirectly.. Latinos -- Puerto Ricans particularly -- please explain how you co-created or co-invented yet another installment in the legacy of Black Musical expression known as Rap and Hip Hop, yet didn't co-create or co-invent any of the elements of the 14 or so African American music forms that predated it? Or why you were nowhere to be found and absent during the creative and inventive foundation outlining the forms of African American musical expression, brilliance and greatness throughout, or even prior to the previous 14 or so African American music forms that are mentioned above yet then, all of a sudden--out of nowhere, you folks come along and claim you co-created and co-invented Rap and Hip Hop 50/50 half n half (which is the evidence-free and utter nonsense being peddled by Dr. Derrick Colon, Fat Joe and numerous un-informed latinos---claims you all never mentioned or verbalized during its inception in the early 1970's)---latinos claims of "50/50--half & half co-creation and co-invention just don't add up---it makes no sense and are increasingly becoming scrutinized and debunked--widespread. Make it make sense Latinos

  • @bowlerfamily

    @bowlerfamily

    Ай бұрын

    How does How does punk have African American roots?

  • @skillet6870

    @skillet6870

    Ай бұрын

    @@bowlerfamily Why would you even ask when you can easily research it?

  • @bowlerfamily

    @bowlerfamily

    Ай бұрын

    @@skillet6870 I was a skate punk and part of the 2nd wave of American Skinheads. I lived the life and never saw any evidence of African American roots in punk. One of the greatest punk/hardcore bands ever is Bad Brains but they weren't there at the beginning. I'm just asking the original poster to enlighten me.

  • @skillet6870

    @skillet6870

    Ай бұрын

    @@bowlerfamily What's interesting is that you yourself -- who appears to identify with whiteness and your admitted allegiance to racist white supremacists known as skinheads -- failed to comment on the 15 other Black American music forms mentioned. You zeroed in on and focused on a music form that features white artists to fuel your cynicism regarding Black creativity and Black artists. But anyway, the following on line articles may prove to be helpful: 1. The Black Roots of Punk Rock. 2. The Black Punk Pioneers Who Made Music History. 3. The Black Origins of Punk. 4. The Very Black History of Punk. 5. Black Punk History. FBA all the way.

  • @bowlerfamily

    @bowlerfamily

    Ай бұрын

    @skillet6870 skinheads are a working class subculture Werth origins in England. Started by working class Brits and Jamaicans that were in opposition to Mods and Hippies. The soundtrack was 2 Tone, Ska, and Rythm & Blues. Since you like to google, look up Trojan Records, Symarip, Desmond Dekkor, and other music associated with the movement. The white nationalist came later and were not the majority, look up S.H.A.R.P Skins, the Baldies from Minneapolis, ARA, Turning the Tide newspaper, and John Brown Anti Clan Watch. You're correct. I skipped past the other genres of music because the AA roots are clearly defined. I focused on Punk because the AA roots are not there, and you decided to list it. The articles and videos you posted are not correct in their surmised theory that the root of the music and subculture have roots in the AA community. The bands they lost came several years after the first punk bands. Some of the most influential bands were either black (Bad Brains) or had black members (Suicidal Tendencies) but the founding of the subculture does not have AA roots. Have a nice day, enjoy your googling and Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi!!!!

  • @bacatit5935
    @bacatit59357 күн бұрын

    Bimmy a rat he’ll say anything

  • @Icebgriz
    @IcebgrizАй бұрын

    He wasn't even a rapper htf would he know

  • @hueroluna8017

    @hueroluna8017

    23 күн бұрын

    Hiphop is bigger then rap what are you talking about? Hip hop is a breaking rap djayin graff beat boxing. Idk where people get the idea when talking about hiphop they exclusively talking about rap. Uneducated and ignorant

  • @MauriceChase87
    @MauriceChase87Ай бұрын

    Remember Lot’s wife from the Bible. Don’t look back. Keep moving forward.

  • @somaliagainstpanafricanism4865
    @somaliagainstpanafricanism4865Күн бұрын

    😂

  • @SuperLand7
    @SuperLand710 күн бұрын

    😂😂😂

  • @TheRealVerbalAbuser
    @TheRealVerbalAbuserКүн бұрын

    I DON'T AGREE WITH HIM.

  • @MsKidswag
    @MsKidswag4 күн бұрын

    False there didn’t create anything 50/50. What factors did they create if it was trait down the middle. Participating and innovating is way different. Latinos were mostly Spanish speaking and racist towards black Americans in the era let’s not forget. The few Latinos that were hip and down with the blacks doesn’t mean all Latinos were influential in hip hop culture.