"That seems like a waste of 9 mana" he says, in the face of losing the mana anyways 😂

@TheShitassdick

3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same lol

@rexone9564

2 жыл бұрын

You can choose to waste 9 mana or 16, and chooses 16…

I know the Ramos deck has been struggling, but thank you for not giving up on it! It’s gotta be my favorite deck I’ve ever seen on here - so creative and exciting. I’m sure you’ll figure out the package you need to protect him!

@kingfuzzy2

2 жыл бұрын

He has one win that he hasn't uploaded yet (according to him)

I also run a Ramos mutate deck. One thing I’ve learned is when mutating onto Ramos, it’s almost always worth it to mutate on top of Ramos so it is no longer an artifact. My opponents would often just cast an artifact removal spell on Ramos out of convenience and he tended to stay on the field longer after I learned this

@camj1758

3 жыл бұрын

Hey i play ramos mutate too! :) And I learned this trick too. Sacrifice a power or two to maintain protection. I love that deck! It's so much fun. I'm thinking of adding chromanticore as a mutate target and capturing all 5 colours

@titanium0002

2 жыл бұрын

so i have a question is ramos mutate or otrimi mutate better ive been wanting to make a mutate deck

@bradenbaker7120

2 жыл бұрын

@@titanium0002 I’ve not played Otrimi as the commander but he’s pretty good in the 99 of Ramos, so I’d recommend Ramos personally

I'm pretty sure no one can respond to Tempt with Discovery once players decide if they're temped or not, because the spell is still resolving at this point...

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

You're right. We got a bit loose with timing on that. Presumably, he would have just cast it afterwards one he had priority.

Getting one shot by Phage is a medal of honor.

That might have been the best Kadena performance in the history of Kadena games.

@shazebennington937

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah she is usually a sorta trash tier commander. I totally thought lathril was going to run away with this game.

@lugh.i

3 жыл бұрын

​@@shazebennington937 I've played Kadena since it came out, it has never been a trash tier. The excellent color combination and the fact that gives you a free body and card advantage at the same time works perfectly for control & go wide strategies. Morphs are unexpected and give you a great array of tools, from counters to big bodies and resource theft and denial. I've always thought it's one of those Commanders that go overlooked because it's abilities are not really flashy, but it can really control a lot of games if well built.

@afspeellijstnaruto

3 жыл бұрын

Been there done that seen that. Kadena rocks. :) If keeps up de gas. My favorite combo was seedborn muse and leyline (+ kadena ofc). That was awesome.

@Mordain_Thade

3 жыл бұрын

@@lugh.i I'm in the same boat. A wide variety of tools lets her play a value/control style that can spiral out of control pretty quickly if left unchecked. My only issue has been closing games, but she can lock down a table and generate all the value with surprising ease :)

@DarkEinherjar

3 жыл бұрын

He resolved an Expropriate. That was pretty much game over.

I’m a Derek! I play Kadena!! Do I have AMNESIA?!?!

@caseywellington4761

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I've told you that three times now!

@soygenial111

3 жыл бұрын

Maximum Derek!!!

@derekseaton4412

3 жыл бұрын

Ah! Who are you? I need an adult! He’s trying to touch my bells!

@andrewlindenschmidt5533

3 жыл бұрын

I have been dereked. Murder is me

Chris’ cards are beautiful… love those foils and arts

I absolutely LOVE your Ramos deck, it is my favorite deck I’ve ever seen on your channel it’s so unique! Love from Michigan🥰

Ramos loves flash enablers, because you can remove the counters and recast him on their turn in response to removal.

FINALLY! A Kadena win on this channel. Morph superiority achieved. Great video, more Kadena, please.

@titanium0002

2 жыл бұрын

ahhh a fellow morph player

Finally another video with my gril kadena! Love to see her as much as the content ❤️ thanks

This music hit different. It's like watching a fight but all the good guys are losing. I.e Mark, Andrew and Chris XDXD

That Rite of Belzenlok playmat looks sweet.

I rarely see a Kadena deck pop off in this fashion! Great game! :)

Love your ramos deck. Don't give up on it!

Greetings from Russia! I play Kadena too - very good commander. Good game👍Thanks for your project. We do not have enough content like yours.

Muddstah seems to love his Ramos deck. Not gonna lie, i'm a little jealous of this brew idea :D

I love whenever you upload your Ramos mutate. He is who I wanna run my mutate deck with, but right now it's just Yidris. You would think the cascade messes with the mutate, but its actually pretty fun to do, I just know Ramos is much better and gives me access to white.

Mark not tapping that elf to gain him life is triggering me

@KeroTheInvincible

3 жыл бұрын

In the end, all the life in the world won't save you from Phage. XD

@joshuanugentfitnessjourney3342

3 жыл бұрын

@@KeroTheInvincible fair I wrote this a quarter of the way through

My Ramos is one of my favorite decks. I have yet to see anything like it. Vadelkin orrery is an amazing card for it

Great game!

Wow that morph deck was awesome, gg

Small detail, but I'm this case, I think it matters; the resolution of Tempt with Discovery. Firstly, casting player needs to find a land, then each player in turn order can choose to be tempted. As each player gets tempted, the casting player can then go get a land. So it will alternate between player 1 2 1 3 1 4 1. Knowing that players can only choose to be tempted on resolution of the spell, players can not respond. In this case, someone killed Chris's mana crypt out of spite. Then Chris might jave been able to interact using the land be got. Most of the time, this small detail does t matter, but in the fringe cases, it can be the difference between a counter spell or a removal

I can't get enough of these games, I have a problem lol

I'm happy for the explanation of Chris's deck at the end, I was so confused thinking its kinda avatar tribal but also playing some really weird includes

It is about time the morph deck popped off!

May I suggest that putting in a animar into the Ramos deck will help out alot

I haven't played Ramos mutate too much, but I found the most success when Ramos is a secondary threat and not the mutate target. He either draws hate off your mutate stack, or surprise one-shots people in the air.

Thanks for posting another interesting video :) 5:55 You said the wrong card name, but since the card is on screen, no biggie.

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so used to seeing the new one haha! Good catch.

@Teladun

3 жыл бұрын

Was coming to say same. Haha

Dimir sleeves for a Wuberg deck? You mad lad!

What's the background song? I've heard it somewhere and it made me think of Jacob's Ladder for some reason

whre da lithril deck at

Ramos morph is the answer to my prayers on how to play all colors of morph

Such sad background music :'(

i'm so confused as to why you didn't remove the counters from ramos to pay for the 1 mana from crystal shard. pls help

@alslayer18

2 жыл бұрын

He said he thought it was a waste of 9 mana (since he would have to pop ramos counters), but honestly I think he just forgot he could do that and didn't want to admit that.

Wouldn't the sea dasher octopus not be a creature anymore since it was mutated on the once animated keyrune and the effect of being turned into a creature ends at the of the turn? Mutate is weird.

@KeroTheInvincible

3 жыл бұрын

Just wait until you get into what happens when you mutate onto a planeswalker while it's a creature.

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

Mutate IS weird, haha!

@caseywellington4761

3 жыл бұрын

I think that's only if he keeps the keyrune on top of the stack, but I don't really know. Mutate is weird.

@CriticoDeNo0bs

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine mutating onto animated lands, mutate is weird

i love these video's and im really interested about your ramos deck. Seems so much fun but is mutate that good in commander? Seems fine but im not sure about it

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

It's still very much in the rough stages. I need a lot more testing.

@gamefreak203

3 жыл бұрын

@@MTGMuddstah im looking forward to it :D thanks

@beesmakehoney1926

3 жыл бұрын

@@MTGMuddstah some cards that give Ward would be a nice inclusion

Sultai value town is just such a strong combination of colors even with a janky commander concept it proves you can just generate that value relatively easily.

@MstrKipper

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me how any commander that is U/B has a cEDH chance

Is there a chance to see the Lathril list?

Request: Bug Chris to share his Morophon list and update the video description! :)

Feels like Chris should've phased out Kadena in Derek's upkeep to slow his momentum in the last turn cycle.

Would be pretty cool if you could mark the start of the game somehow I don't want to know the hands I just want to see the game

Three out of the pod: Gg everyone The Kadena player: Why didn't y'all focus me?gg. Next game Pod: Ggs Kadena player: Why did you guys focus on me 😭😭😭

Ramos Here he goes

Morph! 😲

@5:55, while you had the right picture, your narration had the wrong Chainer.

Let’s go 🧝 🧝‍♂️ 🧝‍♀️ ELVES

Man that ur dragon my might have been huge

I’m sorry but is your five color deck in dimir sleeves?

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

They were the only ones I had on hand! I’m sleeving it up now in just black Eclipses like my other decks.

@jacobisaacs4160

3 жыл бұрын

@@MTGMuddstah ouch unsleeving just to resleeve is my absolute least favorite thing about magic

Is that Niv-Mizzet Reborn a misprint or a proxy?

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

I *believe* it's a miscut foil.

Chromatic orrery adds so much value to Ramos

No more Egmont? 😭

I opened the video to get some ideas on how to play Kadena and ended up being SCHOOLED PS: I don't know if you still have that mutate deck, but Ramos is definitely not the sweetest commander for the strategy, I'd recommend Surgeon Commander 😊

:( no lathrill deck list

The games the last few times seem to have widely varying power levels between the decks. You seem to get hated out of the game very fast and aren’t allowed to get going.

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

They fear me.

@StormriderSRS21

3 жыл бұрын

@@MTGMuddstah i just want to see your Ramos actually do stuff. I recently changed my Ramos deck to mutate after I saw your first video running the deck, and really want to see how far your deck can go

Any luck on that lathril deck list?

@juliagaddis9946

2 жыл бұрын

This is what I was here to find. 😭

Why Ramos mutate?

Muddstah, for what it's worth, I built my 5C mutate deck using Sliver Hivelord as the commander just for the indestructible. Can still be removed and not as fun as Ramos, just a thought.

Need more protection for Ramos

I’m just curious why is mutating Ramos a popular deck? I took basically all of the cards from my marchesa the black rose deck made it into that plus using the other colors to make up the lacking bits from marchesa. Like tempting offer, villainous wealth, kamahls Druidic vow, prosh, and all of the maelstrom cards and Aurelia.

Why no Toski in your list?

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t own one. I should fix that.

@judsonbates1359

3 жыл бұрын

@@MTGMuddstah no worries. Was just curious. Keep working on that Mutate list! Very original and can’t wait to see it evolve. I love how that channel constantly features obscure but amazing Commanders! Seriously. So much other content is featuring only high powered decks which is just not what I want my EDH experience to be. I love how you mix it up and feature such a cool variety of styles and decks. I have found a couple new Commanders from your videos. Thank you.

I totally would've phased out phage with teferi out of spite to save Mark from dying

@RedBlue4you

3 жыл бұрын

I think it would have made Derek lose the game at the beginning of his turn when she phases back in too.

@johnaych8954

3 жыл бұрын

@@RedBlue4you no it wouldn't, phasing doesn't make it change zones or anything, but man that would make it even better lol

Are morphs colorless

@MTGMuddstah

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

Eeeeee Kadena! And...Phage?!

@lugh.i

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, it's one of the few ways to put Phage on play without triggering its ability. This version of the deck has different manifest card to put Phage face-down. Then, you get attacked with an innocent 2/2 without any abilities and you don't block, then the manifest is flipped before damage and you die.

Upsetting I didnt get to see Lathril do more. Stupid Derek.

Ugh, I want a Niv Mizz-print like that so badly.

What did we learn today, kids? When one of the commanders at the table says "draw a card" and the others don't, better focus on that guy.

ozalith in ramos

Kadena is an auto arch enemy in my humble opinion

Dats not chenier nightmare adept

Sultai yawn....