Very kind of you, Drew, to have gotten these two packages safely off the neighbor's front stoop before they were taken by porch pirates! And then to take your precious time to open them, discover they were laser engravers, and put each of them through its paces just to make sure they weren't damaged in shipping? They just don't make neighbors like you anymore, Mr. Fisher! Pretty selfless! 👍

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

😉

Hey everyone, I hoped you enjoyed (and laughed) at this review. It was pretty fun to put together! If you're looking to add a machine to your shop, use these affiliate codes and you'll be helping out the Fisher's Shop channel. Thanks a bunch! ATEZR P20 Plus - tinyurl.com/fs-atezrp20 xTool D1 Pro - tinyurl.com/fs-xtoold1

I have the ATEZR P20 and I love it. It’s really well made and has been a great addition to my shop.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Right on

You know you like a channel when you will watch the videos even when it’s something you’re not really interested in. Another great video. Thanks for sharing!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Love your videos as always!! After procrastinating for right at a year this video made us finally buy the xtool! Used your link of course keep up the good work so much love coming your way!!!🥰♥️

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you! I'm sure you'll enjoy it!

As always love your videos. Thanks for the education as well as the laughs 😃

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

The comparison was phenomenal! Well done!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Will!

I have the Xtool D1 10W and love it. Most of us that have built a custom enclosure have tossed the orange shield. It's not needed with the enclosure, and it actually gets in the way more often than not. I have all the other bits and bobs that you can add to the machine, greatly increasing it's versatility. The Xtool is a great machine - the only thing that appears lacking is the customer support (see online forums for feedback on that)

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was one category I decided not to test. Understandably, there will be a language barrier and a response time issue since it's all coming from China. But with how wide their customer base is, usually you can find answers on online forums and that sort of thing

@robertflindall4692

Жыл бұрын

@@FishersShop It was another great episode as always! Keep up the great videos - we appreciate the hard work you put into them!

@jakerazmataz852

Жыл бұрын

Facebook has a few forums.

Thanks for another great video and a comprehensive pie graph

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Wow! That was a lot of great info Drew! I'm thinking about a Laser and you answered a bunch of questions I had....👍👍👍 Thanks Bro!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Drew it’s always a pleasure to watch your videos you have a gift when it comes to humor 4 screws a cow and a iron man rating is brilliant keep the videos coming my friend

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. :)

man, I am 4 minutes in and I really hope you do way more tool review/comparison videos. You just seem to understand my sense of humor and this was one of the best review videos Ive ever seen

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks, Bobby!

@richrich2749

Жыл бұрын

Please do not do more tool reviews. I’m a huge Fisher Fan but couldn’t finish watching this one.

Awesome review Drew! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Keep up the great work.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Thank you I’ve been debating on getting one.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully it was helpful

That was a great and unique scoring system. I needed that laugh spell. Thanks.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Cool. I didn't know I needed this. Now I can't live without it. Thanks a lot, Drew!!!!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Any time!

This was great, would love to see more product reviews. Thanks!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

I usual skip over the laser reviews as I am not in that area yet but I truly enjoy your videos so I watched it all the way through. Thank you for your help. Not really sure what I want just yet as I have many ideas how to incorporate them.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Glad it was helpful

Good video Drew, my Atezr P20 Plus is on it's way - can't wait to get started..

@FishersShop

7 ай бұрын

The ATEZR is an awesome laser. Love it

Nice review, Drew~! I'll be looking at getting one of these in the near future. Great features on both. As for the air hose concern, you could "borrow" one of the vacuum lines from your neighbor's car and replace it with the xTool's line. Neighbor will appreciate the upgrade~! ;-) Thanks for the video~!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

I just might have to.

Fantastic testing and review, Drew! 😃 Fantastic machines indeed! Some day I get one. 😬 Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

I don't usually care for review video's but yours was enjoyable to watch and I got a few chuckles along the way. 👍👍

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

That is by far the best rating system I’ve ever seen. It should be the standard! I’ve got an xtool d1 (10w) and I really like it. One other feature they have is leg extensions. They’re extra cylinders that screw into the existing legs that let you raise the tray up. These are extremely helpful in case anyone needs to engrave on thicker work pieces.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I had them on in one shot. The ATEZR also has risers as well.

@tamaramarrero9024

Жыл бұрын

@@FishersShopI cannot find them anywhere it’s a shame :(

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

@@tamaramarrero9024 www.xtool.com/collections/accessory/products/risers-for-xtool-d1

Had you posted this a business day earlier, you might have caught me before my purchase of the xtool d1 pro (and many accessories, including the infrared for metals) last Friday. I would have gladly purchased through your affiliate link

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

No problem! Have fun with the laser

Nice review Drew! Thanks for always sharing with us!💖👍😎JP

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure

@IEnjoyCreatingVideos

Жыл бұрын

@@FishersShop 😎

Thank you. I really found that interesting as laser engravers are just starting to become popular here in Australia and I thought about one for sign making. My problem is I’m a computer Neanderthal and getting on in age just a bit to go too deep into that area. My other grey area is my workshop is under my home and I understand laser burning with timber causes odour issues!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, if you're just doing engraving, it's not so bad. But cutting operations will definitely smoke the place up

18:14 - best (scientifically valid) test result chart ever! 😆 Nice one Drew! Both are great machines. Curious which one will end up in your shop!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Both as of now! I still can't decide which one I like more

Great review comparison. The air assist could be the deal maker for some, that's $150 worth of other upgrades, go toward building your own fume extraction cabinet, consumables. The air hose issue is easily solved with a length of surgical tubing. If your neighbor has one of those cheap, expanding garden hoses, that's the internal part. As soon as the hose fitting starts leaking, you get several ft of free surgical tubing.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Nice tip! Thanks

@jakerazmataz852

Жыл бұрын

You can get air assist for $80 if you look.

Ceramark works great on aluminum. I do luggage tags and dog tags for people. Great video. Your comparisons reminded me of Michael’s scoring on Beach Day episode of The Office.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

I can picture Andy floating away in his sumo suit now. 😂

I have the xTool D1 10watt though it has now been upgraded with the 20 watt module (and will be getting their infrared module) and extension kit and enclosures... honey comb rotary kit... I do kind a agree about the air assist... and mine having to go through an international adaptor makes it even more clumsy and sometimes finicky ... however overall I happy with the beast and will be getting their 40 watt Co2 beast in the next couple of months...

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

At first I thought: oh no Drew is doing a straight review video. I should have known better😁 thanks for the chuckle😄👍

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

My goal is to never get a review request again. lol

best review OF ANYTHING EVER IN THE HISTORY OF REVIEWS!!

Very temped to buy the ATEZR.... Great video and awesome testing... I need to go talk with the wife about this for valentines days... great "gift" idea...

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Go for it!

@charliebrown8278

Жыл бұрын

I’m sure she’ll love it!!

Very well done! Informative and clever humor made me wish the video was longer (I've never said that about a video before ) I'll give you 5 out of 5 Death Stars.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Ooooooo!!! Thanks!

A couple of years ago I built myself a CNC mill as a proof of concept. I used that little CNC mill to build me a much bigger CNC mill. It’s been about 5 years now that I’ve been designing and milling to my heart’s content. This year I’m going to use the knowledge and lessons learnt over the years to me my own 100W CO2 CNC (freaking) laser.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Sounds cool. Zach from Byte Sized just did a video series on that

@Ding_Bat

Жыл бұрын

@@FishersShop I followed Further Fabrication to get some insight, but I’ll be sure to check out Zach channel as well. Thanks!! 😉

Good review I think I would lean toward the Atezr

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Harry. I'm still on the fence with both

Nice job. I have the XTool D1 with LightBurn. I enjoy it. I am about to buy a CNC to do some 3D stuff.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

right on!

I will probably never buy a laser (well, never say never) but its unlikely in the near future. but i still watched and thoroughly enjoyed this video. loved the scoring system and the honesty about the pros and cons. Thanks for entertaining me for free for 21minutes and 30 seconds.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it, Andrew! Thanks

I give this review 2 Richard Dean Andersons and 1 Bob Ross. Good to see some comparisons of these laser engravers, thanks!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

My pleasure! Glad you liked it

Brilliant grading system 😂 Thanks for the video

@FishersShop

9 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Great video. The only thing I wish it was added was how easy it was to use both of these with Lightburn software.

@FishersShop

10 ай бұрын

They're both pretty much identical in LB. For the xTool you'll have to configure the offset if you want to use the crosshairs for alignment. Plus, it homes to the back-left corner instead of the front-left like the ATEZR. Other than that, they're the same.

Excellent comparison of the two. I appreciate how you abandoned both the metric and the imperial system in favor of the Fisher system. Much more intuitive. These units both look great. I have a much cheaper, 5w, system for making wooden signs and other doo dads that I sell at my camp store. These things have certainly come a long way and they keep getting easier to use. Just don’t shoot your eye out!😵

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Matthew! :)

That Congo laser was epic

Well, nobody can say that review / comparison wasn't very Fisher's Shop 😅 well done mate!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

Hey Drew I have an Xtool and just learned something there is a switch on the pcb board on the xtool that has to be flipped to allow updates maybe that switch has to be turned on so your phone will connect to the machine I'd love to know if that fixes the issue

Hey man. Love your podcast. Your voice reminds me of Arlo Guthrie, & when you were reviewing the manuals with the lasers, I was expecting to hear something like ‘27 8”x10” coloured glossy pictures, with circles ‘n arrows ‘n a paragraph on the back of each one”…

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks!

Hey Drew! Great video. I've been looking at the X Tool, a few other brands, and the Atezr you reviewed gave me something to think about for sure. I know your shop is in your basement (as is mine). Can you comment on fume extraction/air assist/safety with these diode lasers? Thanks!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I run them in my garage because of the smoke. I did a couple of real quick jobs in the shop so I could film it with better light, but it didn't take long to smoke up the place.

@CrossCutCreations

Жыл бұрын

@@FishersShop I understand that. Thanks for the insight. I hope your neighbor doesn’t steal your machines as revenge for all the times you’ve taken plywood, walnut, and other necessary materials for projects from his house while he wasn’t home. 😂

Nice head to head comparison!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great comparison:)

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks, Chad

Super awesome video Drew! Just some feedback for you, the video was entertaining and engaging but your thumbnail lacks in the grab my attention depot and it almost comes off looking like an ad, I would play around with that and see if that will bump your numbers up a bit on an amazing video that you spent quality time on.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Feel free to make me a new one then. :)

@techguy38

Жыл бұрын

@@FishersShop haha I’ll think about it but I was just trying to give you feedback as a laser head against a laser head doesn’t pull the viewer in as new people to the hobby don’t even know what that looks like or what it is

I know certify you as the best product scorer in the whole world! I love Airwolf!

Was NOT expecting a Congo reference. Well done 😝

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Haha, thanks

I did enjoy (and laughed at) this video. Now if you had engraved a flat head screw image onto a piece of walnut, I’d have given it a 5 bionic leg rating 😃 Good work, thank you!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Shoulda done that. :)

One of the best, most entertaining reviews of this machine. Accesories you can buy after are pretty irrelevant. You can buy all of the accessories, like air assist or extraction, from loads of places. The stuff they give you with the machine is worth considering, but to be honest they are peanuts. And with the X Tool still at around $1300 while the Atezr is $680 that's a lot of test materials. So the rest of the test, fair enough. But the accessories section just seems way off, even allowinf for the fact that the Atezr cost more at the time of the review. The extra $150 for the X Tool air assist still buys all those materials they give you, and a lot more. And there is bound to be an upgrade module for the Atezr, if there isn't at the time of writing. Clear winner here, in all but aethetics, very subjective, is the Atezr.

@FishersShop

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, it was definitely my favorite. After filming this video, I sold the xTool immediately and used the ATEZR for quite a while. Since then, I've given it to a friend and now use the IKIER (seen in a more recent video)

Great video. I am curious why you chose these two systems? There are others out there. Do you think these two are the best for this price point? Thanks

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Yes, absolutely

With connecting your device to the wifi, I quite often have issues connecting smart devices to the wifi. The trick I found was to disable the high band wifi before connecting. In the UK (not sure if it is the same in the USA) our wifi routers use 2 frequencies. 2ghz and 5ghz. Most smart devices (Amazon echos, ring doorbells, lights, etc) prefer the 2ghz. But the 5ghz confuses them. So I log into the router, disable 5ghz, connect the device as per device instructions, then restart the 5ghz. If American wifi routers are similar, then maybe try that?

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was only using 2ghz. Not sure what the issue was

Great video

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Should have went bigger with the logo on your neighbor's car, think FREE advertising!! Loved the video. Great comparison for someone considering either machines. Thanks for having a sense of humor and sharing it.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Glad you liked it!

Do you think you could use the ATEZR air assist on the xTool machine?

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Of course.

Thanks for the comparison, Drew. Have a question for you. How well do these do on hardwoods like walnt? Would a 20W laser be adequate for engraving charcuterie boards, etc.?

@jakerazmataz852

Жыл бұрын

Yes. The main difference in W is the time it takes.

Seeing as I have zero problem recommending you spend more money, thoughts about looking at the Ortur?

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

I’ve had three Ortur lasers. These two are better for many reasons.

Thanks for th evideo! Looking to buy one, does the Laser makes too much noise to use in an apartment?

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Not at all. Your only concern will be the fume and smoke extraction

Your neighbor wants his laser engravers back 🤔🤣

How do they work on Gold and Silver?

I love y Xtool D1 Pro 20 watt but, if I needed another laser I'd buy the Roly Lasermatic 10.

I am still deciding I been looking at xtools and atomstack. I have a question on laser head are they compatiable with other companies or only work on their brand of machine. So just curious.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

They’re all proprietary to their own designs.

Is there an advantage to these vs getting a laser for your CNC machine?

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Yeah... I can put these in my garage so I don't smoke up the house.

This review was Alllright Allllright Allllrigh! :)

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks!

If you have a video on how to etch glass with both machines, or if you plan on doing a video etching glass it will be greatly appreciated.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Don't hold your breath. I won't be doing any more laser reviews

@jakerazmataz852

Жыл бұрын

There are a bunch out there. There are like 10 different methods. Some are very time consuming, and messy, a couple not so much.

You had me at spreadsheet

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

😂

what is the thickest piece of material it will cut threw

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

All depends how many passes you take. I was doing 1/4" material in a single pass. I could do 3/4" material with multiple passes.

The review is much better than the actual machines. With the cost exceeding $1k... you should look into a co2 laser.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

CO2 lasers are multi-thousand dollar machines. I like the portability and the compactness of a diode for the time being.

@TheUnofficialMaker

Жыл бұрын

@@FishersShop and the nightmare mirror alignment

I wish you covered what type of computer is need? Will they both run off Apple or PC? 21:31

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Look up Lightburn and it's requirements. Pretty sure you can use whatever

@garyhorton6652

Жыл бұрын

@@FishersShop will do, thanks

I am still happy I DON'T live next door but I did enjoy this review except for the complete lack of software coverage. Yes, you did mention light burn and proprietary stuff with the Xtool but not what came with the Atezr. I would think that you do need to go over that part of the laser performance at some point. I realize its all new to you and you need time to use them both. I do like the air assist and overall design/construction of the Atezr but not its laser head. I don't like the air assist of the Xtool but am impressed with the software and the laser head. What I see as weaknesses in the Atezr is the visibility with the head and the extreme difficulty to clean the lens/head and glaring lack of software creativity and availability BUT the engineering design coverage is supreme. Sooooo. That leaves the real decision to the software. The Xtool engineering and build quality falls way short of the Atezr but immediate usability outshines the Atezr by miles. Back to you Mr Fisher. Draw it out Drew.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Well, I left software out of it because 99% of laser users just use Lightburn which is a completely different thing and doesn't really fall into the scope of this machine to machine comparison. The xTool has that Creative Space program, but it's pretty lame, to be honest.

How necessary is fume extraction? Specifically for a basement shop. And how would you accomplish that with these machines since there is no enclosure?

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

I run them in my garage

@TheUnofficialMaker

Жыл бұрын

build an enclosure!

What's the purpose of the air assist?

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Blows away the particulate as the laser is vaporizing the wood. Leaves a cleaner cut and almost eliminates all the smoke staining on the surface

Just a heads up, I only knew about this video from listening to today's podcast episode where you mention it not getting views. I am subscribed and have notifications on, but I never got a notification about this video. Perhaps Mr algorithm is swaying your numbers. 🤷‍♂️

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Strange. Yeah, this one fell flat on its face. That could be the reason I guess.

Excellent comparison, ummmm, how do they work on wood? . In all seriousness though, thank you for another entertaining video :)

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

Heads up Fisher, I teach a lasercutting class and depending on your model you probably shouldn't put metal on it. Not only do some metals have coatings that shouldn't be heated health-wise, but the metal itself is reflective so it actually bounces the laser back at it's own lens which increases heat and potentially damaging it (mirror is the same). Also many plastics release harmful chemicals that can give you cancer when they're heated up. Hopefully you've already done this--but always research first before cutting!

On a usefulness scale of flathead screws to woodpecker tools, I found this video to be entertaining and informative so I'll rank it at a pockethole jig. 🤓👍And your neighbors will be showing your logo to everyone he knows! Maybe even the police will like it!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it. :)

Nice video as always. Only one thing bothers me, laser engravers should not be operated without proper ventilation or fume extraction, the vapors produced during the engraving process are harmful to health

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Yup, they're smokey. Mine run out in the garage.

But on a scale of Snarf to Cringer, which machine stores more easily

How many flat heads to a McConaughey?

Drew, I really wish you had covered which of these frickin laser beams has the portability, power, and water-resistance I need to attach them to sharks’ frickin heads!

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

😉

The actual review items were excellent. Your spreadsheet items were not. I agree with a previous commenter that numerical values would have been more appropriate. Generally I appreciate your humor but in that case not. I think if I were in the market for a laser engraver, which I am not, I would find it difficult in making a choice between these two machines. thank you for sharing. Have a great day and stay safe.😀😀

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

I wasn't interested in using a numerical system that would would still only show MY opinion and would ultimately show bias towards a single machine. I'd rather just show you each one and let you decide for yourself.

Any ill tempered sea bass?

thanks

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

No problem

Someone’s getting free tools! All about that action boss. Combined with the endless supply of free lumber from your neighbor…I’m a fan of this business model.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Hard work paying off. :)

@alexreid4131

Жыл бұрын

@@FishersShop love ya bro. Deserve everything coming your way coz you hustle like no one else. Nothing but love for ya.

A few things to keep in mind with these open frame laser cutters: 1) There is NOTHING for fume extraction. Whenever you're cutting or engraving, you're burning the material, and releasing whatever vapors straight into your workshop. 2) Be wary of what materials you're using, some materials, such as PVC, Formaldehyde-bonded fiberboards, etc., should never be laser cut or engraved, as they release toxic gasses when burned. Always use the machine in a well ventilated area. 3) While they claim to have flame detection, they should never be left unattended. 4) Children and pets should never be around while the machine is in use. 5) Those lasers emit a fair amount of ultraviolet radiation. They should never be operated without proper laser eye protection. That little shroud doesn't do much. I'm very skeptical of open frame laser cutters. They just seem way too dangerous. I would very much rather use an enclosed one, even though they tend to be more expensive.

@jakerazmataz852

Жыл бұрын

I just saw a vid of a guy trying to cut a thick piece of wood. I caught on fire. Melted the laser shield, and he was there.

It took great restraint not to just jump to the outtakes. Drew + lasers! I was expecting smoke and holes in your workbench. The reviews were great but you need to up your screwup game a bit. 😊

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

There were plenty of screwups but the camera just wasn't running. :)

I've seen xTool and the other [ATEZR] is new to me

@SargeWolf010

Жыл бұрын

Ngl I'm tempted to just buy both so I have have a back up 🤣

🤩

I am now convinced that anyone who isn't doing their tool ratings with completely meaingless 80s references is doing it wrong. Great way to keep either company from being mad at you...or maybe making both of them mad at you. Now I just wish I knew whether the Ortur was a PeeWee Herman or a Pauly Shore when compared to the Arnold or Matthew of these two. :D

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

Haha, definitely a PeeWee Herman

I give your scientific analysis a Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park out of five: memorable one-liners and very sexy in an unbuttoned shirt. No homo, just facts.

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

😂

Don't know where else to say this but did you know, J-fred from team edge is a fan?

@FishersShop

Жыл бұрын

I don't know who that is.... but cool. :)

👍

Red and gold... Did Tony Stark design this? 😂

Is this a review video on Fishers? They forgot to add a slotted screw. Riot!

👍👍👏👏

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