God that woman was insufferable. Larry would have been better off ignoring her, because she had nothing to say worth listening to.

@ArnoldJudasRimmer..

Ай бұрын

They never do. Mind made up. No shifting it with reason and logic, because that would be productive...and we can't be having that type of nonsense.

@lazarus8447

Ай бұрын

this is just a room full of people who want to blame all their issues on white people and ignore personal accountability.

@zoopdterdoobdter5743

Ай бұрын

He's planting seeds. The debate is for the audience and posterity, not the opponent.

@steve1085

Ай бұрын

You can't ignore the ignorant. That's how those ignorant beliefs proliferate

@oldtimergaming9514

Ай бұрын

She made me change my mind on late term abortions (really late term).

This is gonna be a lengthy response, but as a black man who is sick and tired of how our "community" operates, I thought it would be fitting to give my response here. Tess illustrates in a single clip the exact issues I have with the black community. Of all the issues that Larry Elder mentioned here, one of the issues that even Malcolm X brought to question is our lack of responsibility. To put it hood, "it ain't ever our fault." Tess talks about how the welfare system is apparently a tool of systemic racism, despite the fact that most black women have been dependent on the welfare system for years, all of which stems from the lack of black fathers in the home, which is EXACTLY what Larry Elder is pointing out. And instead of connecting the dots and realizing that having black fathers remain with their children would result in less dependency on the welfare system (one which Tess herself said was a tool of systematic racism), she defaults to blaming everything on white people. I've gotten so sick and tired of this shit. We talk about how "independent" we want to be and that we should be self-reliant in order to improve our community, and yet we both deliberately and subconsciously hide behind white folk every time we hit a barrier. Then we turn fight the fuck around and start voting in white politicians we're hiding behind and start begging for things that we think they can give us. If we want our community to be independent, then we need to start taking responsibility and working to solve the issues *we* placed ourselves in. We can't keep sitting by and blaming white people. The problems are happening in *our* community, and we need to work together to solve them. Here's the reality, y'all: the increase in crime isn't caused by cops, it's caused by us being told by celebrities and politicians and people like Tess that the game is rigged from the start, and that it's not worth playing fairly, and to just give up and depend on the system. And so we give up like they tell us to, turn to crime and murder, have children that the fathers walk out on, beg welfare for handouts, all while blaming the very same white people they listened to in the first place...only to come RIGHT back around and do it again. This mindset has been going on since Obama's administration, and I'm getting tired of it. It's this endless Sisyphean cycle that just doesn't end, and will only continue to do so as long as the black community doesn't recognize the bad decisions we collectively make, touch out proverbial balls, and wake up. And yet we never do. It's frustrating and it needs to stop. We need to own up and actually work to better our community. No one's gonna do it unless we lead by example, and only then will be achieve the independence we keep thinking that we have.

@dungeonmonkey2495

Ай бұрын

This

@DavidMartinez-ce3lp

Ай бұрын

Black people also tend to vote based on skin color in certain areas, and those black politicians know just how to pander to the black community. Look at Chicago or Baltimore. Voting in incredibly corrupt black people and it made things so much worse. On top of that, these corrupt black politicians also refuse to take any accountability for the problems they caused.

@Ryder72121

Ай бұрын

Couldnt have put it any better bro

@sid6856

Ай бұрын

Preach brotha Preach 🥳

@yeez13

Ай бұрын

Don’t you also just love how we’re basically peer pressured by our own demographics (as a POC) to “stand with/represent/help out ‘The Community’” and yet you’re also browbeaten & gaslit by said “Community” for ever speaking out about it and going “against the grain”; typically stated as “being white” or “being a self-hating [Race/Ethnicity]” or some other bull sh1t meant to demean you for being individualistic 😒 As someone part of the the “Latino/Latina Community”…I can even recall how segmented/segregated it can get when you look at how many Nationalities there are and how they all seem to have a different identity/view of the others. So much so…if you don’t “fit into that view”, you’re practically seen as “white” or something akin to a “r4c3 tr41t0r”…and if you’re born not being Bilingual?!?! You’re PRACTICALLY NOT EVEN CONSIDERED HISPANIC/LATINO/LATINA! Doubly so if you use “LatinX” like a f_cking idiot! Once again, this isn’t mutually exclusive to one Race/Nationality, but it seems to be extra prominent within the “Hispanic community”; stereotypes & tropes/slang/mannerisms are seen as socially acceptable and outright not at all taboo! Which is strange bc Social Media/Media at large seems to want us all to be afraid of “slurs” without the distinction some are obviously a no-go in a public forum/in private…but others not so much as a means of self-policing and perpetuating the Purity Spiral that the Democrats seem to think we’re all about playing as Minorities 🤬 It was ALL GOOD until they wanted to crank the Power Politics up to 11…

They need to stop with the victim mentality. No accountability no responsibility.

@theauntofdragons

Ай бұрын

The last job I had said, "we have to be better than white people". That always bothers me. Why does it have to be a competition? Just be a good human being. Unless you identify as a dog 🙄

@TheBoss0110101001

Ай бұрын

They????

@marcoglara2012

Ай бұрын

@@TheBoss0110101001 Yes, those people who refuse to see facts and evidence.

@LadyBugPicnic12

Ай бұрын

@@TheBoss0110101001yes THEY are wrong, bitter, hateful, and nasty. Is THEY a bad word now?

@theauntofdragons

Ай бұрын

Yes. WE need to stop acting like victims. No one should learn in school that your skin color makes your life miserable....

I'm not black, but ide have to imagine that listening to this women must be EXTRA infuriating as a black person

@MirandaSinistra

Ай бұрын

It is, drives me a up a wall listening to women like Tess blame anything and everything wrong on white people. No responsibility or accountability. Nothing ever changes because so many refuse to admit they're their own worst enemy.

@orboakin8074

Ай бұрын

You have no idea. If she were here in Nigeria, she would be a pariah.

@premo2k781

Ай бұрын

It really is lol

@bemoguy

Ай бұрын

Indeed, it is, my friend! I can not stomach this program as it is.

@jevaughnmatthews6026

Ай бұрын

It’s the worst.

Morgan Freeman when asked how to fix racism: "Stop talking about it."

@iaintmadatcha

Ай бұрын

This is why Morgan Freeman is paid to play a character because his real character has absolutely no substance. "Stop talking about it" ? How when theres still sundown towns across America ?

@Because_Reasons

Ай бұрын

Denzel Washington too!

@PerkulatorBenny

Ай бұрын

@@iaintmadatcha "Stop talking about it" meant (paraphrased) "stop saying that someone is 'a black man' or 'a white man' and just see them as a person", because defining people by their skin color, even if done with good intentions (e.g. to highlight who needs help), still reinforces the line between people where someone is assigned a value based on their race. Of course his statement was way too condensed to be useful without a lot of unpacking, but I'm sure he could elaborate way more on it when he's not on an interview with limited time to tackle several different subjects.

@iaintmadatcha

Ай бұрын

@@PerkulatorBenny atleast your honest which I can respect. "His statement was condensed to be useful without alot of unpacking" absolutely.

@jasonagodfrey

Ай бұрын

​@@iaintmadatcha to be fair to Morgan, he did some unpacking during that interview and was arguing against collectivism in favor of an individualistic view of the world. This has its failings when passing broad legislation but it can influence individuals who try to avoid responsibility. Even then, it would contend with the fact that a desire to avoid responsibility can be inherent in one's personality.

I think the lady saying "going down a watering hole" means "going down a rabbit hole." Another indication of her intellectual laziness. She's a bully, plain and simple.

@backdoorsluts_9

Ай бұрын

Going down a watering hole 😂😂😂

@jasper_of_puppets

Ай бұрын

_"Someone's poisoned the water hole!"_ - Woody

@thedavischanger

Ай бұрын

This watering hole has a lot of wet rabbits... that aren't breathing... Weird.

@lainiwakura1776

Ай бұрын

Perpetual victims can't see the who the real bullies are and also are cry bullies themselves.

@DeadlyPlatypus

Ай бұрын

She's so stupid (like most Leftists) that she can't even repeat a frequently used idiom.

As a Nigerian, that point you bring up about good fathers and families is so true. My grandfather in Nigeria was born into poverty and hardship but he worked hard for years to ensure his children got education and chance at better lives. Sadly, all the effort caused him to die at 58 due to blood pressure complications but he succeeded. All of his kids grew up successful and thrived and this was during the last years of colonialism in my country. Black Americans have no excuse. I and many other Africans, will never understand the propensity for black Americans to embrace the victimhood narrative. Why? Slavery existed everywhere on earth and still sadly exists in Africa but not the USA. So that excuse is dumb. Their race is not an issue, especially considering how Asian-Americans are not white but also the richest ethnic group in the USA and even most African immigrants in the USA tend to do well economically. It's clear that their culture is what matters more. Also, considering how mostly white people are killed by police, even the police brutality excuse is meaningless. Why do they continue to enbrace victimhood despite being citizens of the most prosperous country on earth?! If most of us in Africa had a quarter of their opportunities, we would make the best of it😢

@andrewlowden322

Ай бұрын

Nigerian-Americans are higher earners than Caucasian-Americans! Y'all are making it happen

@robertmarshall2502

Ай бұрын

What I find really frustrating is if they were to look at a related country, the UK, they could see that some black immigrants do exceptionally well educationally and others do poorly and the reasons why have a lot to do with culture and family make up. (In this case young girls from certain African countries do far better than average British girls and young boys from the Caribbean do worse, in particular those without father figures)

@NookiesDiaries

28 күн бұрын

Don't mind them... if America is so bad, let them come & live the life of an average Nigerian here in Nigeria 😅... After one day, they will beg to go back to America. They keep complaining and not grateful for the country they have. SMH.

Tez's "Thank you. I just asked you if he was white or black. Charlemagne." and the sheer smugness as if she's made some mic-drop point is the personification of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

@bemoguy

Ай бұрын

Yes!! You nailed it!!!

@Locksden

Ай бұрын

"Dupers Grin". She's working from a playbook, and thought she'd "won" by "derailing". She was literally feeling a "dopamine hit" by getting away with a dishonest technique (or believing she did). She turned away from Elder because she felt it coming. I think Larry Elder was impressive: he was still making his points, despite the fierce opposition. I'll certainly follow him in future NB: I agree about the D-K: she's not as good as she thinks. And also with Baggage Claim: they *can't* accept a different perspective. IMO she's using much the same playbook as the "purple-haired nose-ringed banshees". Almost certainly from the same source.

Her question: "What system did (we) black people create?" has one VERY dark answer: the beginning of the black slave trade in Africa resulting in the sale of her ancestors! Edit: create is probably the wrong word as she wanted to know what "system" black people were in charge of and this would be an answer

@SpFlash1523

Ай бұрын

Exactly.

@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access

Ай бұрын

Can’t buy something without someone being willing to sell you it 🤷🏽‍♂️

@charcharr

Ай бұрын

It was actually started by the Arabs, but Africans were a close second.

@andrewlowden322

Ай бұрын

@@charcharr I wrote specifically about "black run systems" and Ashanti-based practices etc. I wasnt saying they invented the art but she asked for a system that black people were in charge of.

@alphacause

Ай бұрын

Precisely! It is very telling that whenever talk of transatlantic slave trade is brought up, it is seldom discussed that such a large and wholesale transfer of human beings from Africa could not exist without *AFRICAN COMPLICITY AND PARTICIPATION!* It is also conveniently left out that much of the slave trade was outlawed in Africa, as a result of Europeans ending it in Africa, after Europeans ended slavery on their own shores and colonies.

Every boy needs a man to look up to, I had my stepdad as my dad passed away when I was 2 weeks old. My step dad was amazing and I would have been a lost soul without him teaching me how to grow up to be a good man.

@hengineer

Ай бұрын

Not just look up to, to keep them from getting out of line, Steve Harvey made the point that undisciplined boys grow up to become undisciplined men. And it takes a man to raise a disciplined man, only a man can teach a boy to discipline himself from the urges of testosterone.

@chazzitz-wh4ly

Ай бұрын

I had my step-dad, my pastor, youth leaders, coaches.

Demanding to be provided an example of a system created by black people is frustratingly American. What, the nations in Africa don't exist now?

@orboakin8074

Ай бұрын

Welcome to my world, friend. These racialist black A ericans are just so insulting and frustrating to us Africans. They either idolize retarded notions about is or disregard is when we condemn their failings😔

@stevepetersson6052

Ай бұрын

They'd just argue as ex colonial countries The System was still set up by Wacist Huwhitey

@user-pt1ky6db9y

Ай бұрын

​@@stevepetersson6052 As an African, the only reason they have that excuse is because they haven't really been here or they're just really disingenuous. We have been free from colonization now. We still have corruption that would make American politicians look like angels. All they would advocate for, if they would be honest with themselves, would be a return for colonial rule. If it is the system itself, then they are advocating for a return to poverty and isolation because no nation would traverse to Africa just because they are nice people.

@Fyrecide

Ай бұрын

Don’t worry, they’d dig up those goal posts and move them the minute you bring that up because, of course, everything is always whitey’s fault *entirely* and for all time. She doesn’t want solutions or discussions, she wants someone to be angry at and find whatever way she thinks she can to justify that. She’s an ACTUAL racist.

@SkaterBlades

22 сағат бұрын

Well i mean a lot of Americans do blanket all black people as "African American" so it's not much of a stretch

I saw a black college girl interviewed who believed she only got into a top college because of her skin colour. When asked about her grades they were genius-level. Yet this girl didn't think her own work, achievement, and intelligence got her into college....she believed only her skin colour did. How sad is that?

@thomasbrown9313

Ай бұрын

her skin color did do that.

@sid6856

Ай бұрын

​@@thomasbrown9313You missed the entire point. Keep your racist comments to yourself, something your racist parents should have taught you but obviously forgot.

@NaishiYT

Ай бұрын

Exactly the problem with things like affirmative action 🤦🏽‍♀️

@NaishiYT

Ай бұрын

@@thomasbrown9313bro, you don’t even know why she got in. Just because she’s black, that doesn’t mean she 100% definitely got in for being black dude

@MirandaSinistra

Ай бұрын

I remember that girl, it was the saddest thing I'd ever seen. It was clear this girl worked really hard to get in but affirmative action makes all that effort seem worthless.

Love Larry Elder. If any of y'all have the time, listen to his story about repairing his relationship with his father and it is one of the most powerful stories of personal triumph I've had inspire me.

What system is she talking about, exactly? Does she know what a system is? or is she using the word as a synonym for boogie man?

@kari8187

Ай бұрын

“Water hole” 😂 she said that with confidence like 40 times when it’s “rabbit hole”

@chazzitz-wh4ly

Ай бұрын

What she fails to understand is the multi-level system. If she can’t except Baltimore as an example she wont ever except anything because being a perpetual victim is power right now. The minute society as a whole pushes back people like Tez will only ever get worse.

@RaycrowX

Ай бұрын

From what I can gather, Tez is referring to the US federal and state governments, none of which were set up with black involvement. If this is her argument, it is at least logically consistent and factually correct. However, it seems as though she has defined out of existence any evidence that would _disprove_ her theory. So, yes, _system_ is being used as a synonym for boogeyman.

@etrosknight2254

Ай бұрын

Her argument seems to be that since the "systems" of this country, which was founded by Englishman, were created by white people, black people will never have any actual power or agency within the system no matter what levels of power and authority they achieve within it. She's created a position that is safe and unassailable, since we can't go back in time and change what the color of the founding fathers' skin was. It is also completely flaccid since the only thing it achieves is the perpetuation of the victimhood complex that Larry Elder is trying to fight. Logically the only outcome of Tez's line of thinking is that the entire US government needs to be overthrown and a new system of government installed that was created by black people in order for black people to have real power and agency over their own lives

He's literally telling her who is running the systems and she can't, or won't, see it. That person is considered an 'influencer'. lol

@chazzitz-wh4ly

Ай бұрын

She fetishizes being a victim.

@Blakmagic88

Ай бұрын

She won’t. Black Americans, in general, only want look at the world through the lens of race and perpetual victimhood. This gives them an out or an excuse as to why so many things have gone wrong. The problem is that the excuses are starting to wear thin and soon no one is going to care. I say this as a black woman who has tried to talk to other black women, and some black men about having HONEST conversations.

Life is full of choices. And choices have rewards, or consequence. And taking personal responsibility for our choices in life, is one of the keys to personal fulfillment.

Larry Elder said calmly…

We need more common sense and more people like Larry!

That woman is the exact reason I just don't bother arguing with Democrats at all. She wasn't interested in having discourse, she was interested in "gachas" and was constantly thinking of a way to pigeonhole Larry as "That Guy" the entire conversation. Her arguments weren't of substance, they were of condescension and built on the idea that she could crumble his entire position if she gets him to say one thing, SHOWING that she had no earnest investment in discourse which is why the moment Larry finally said "Okay, they were white" she just shut the conversation down like nothing else about the context mattered. And then, the part where I personally would have just walked out of the room, she started verbally berating him and saying "Tell me this", "Tell me that" while also TALKING OVER HIM NOT ALLOWING HIM TO TELL HER ANYTHING AT ALL because she was so wrapped up in being on the aggression (AKA, a sign that her argument was rooted in ego, not honesty) that she genuinely forgot she wasn't the only voice there. And then, when Larry FINALLY gets his words out and just starts listing examples, it turns into "That's not an example"; literally controlling the parameters of argument and shifting the goalpost as needed to prevent the other team from landing anything. These are all signs that the other person wants to "win" the conversation and will turn it into an argument no matter what. There's no point in talking to these people. Frankly, I'd rather just send them to the more culturally backwards country possible so they can learn what real racism looks like.

@lainiwakura1776

Ай бұрын

It's a communist viewpoint and they love a good gish gallop fallacy.

@Lucas-zg3hh

Ай бұрын

@@lainiwakura1776 You just introduced me to a new fallacy. Thanks.

@TetsuoShimaNo41

Ай бұрын

Republicans argue the same way. You must hate politics entirely. It's not Democrats its people who have become brittle.

@trevorthornley8835

Ай бұрын

​@@lainiwakura1776 since that's the case, I say kick them out of the country and go someplace third world.

@dronesclubhighjinks

Ай бұрын

This is also a feminist thing. They seem to think “strong, independent women” should not let the other side speak.

I find that one of the best ways to find out how well fleshed out a person's opinions are is to simply ask them to explain them in detail. You would be surprised how many people can't do this.

@tatuvarvemaa5314

Ай бұрын

Sounds alot like Socrates thought process. Literally just ask questions to see if the person actually understands what they are so confident in. And then he discovered philosofy.

@grandmufftwerkin9037

Ай бұрын

@@tatuvarvemaa5314 Indeed it is. The Socratic method is very effective.

@SubZero-hs9xc

Ай бұрын

The thing is that many people now, in any side of the argument about anything, just stile talking points from other without looking at it

@j.l.4054

Ай бұрын

Sadly you see this all the time - especially in political conversations on college campuses... Most people haven't ever even thought about why they hold the opinions that they do. And it's no shock that when pressed about them, they can't defend or explain them at all, yet they'll still vehemently reject the new ideas they're presented with...

@TheWyrdSmythe

Ай бұрын

Indeed. Had I been Larry Elder, I would have asked: “If you don’t accept the President and all the other authority figures involved, exactly who do you mean by “the system”?

I can only pray, that more families listen to Larry and less to provocateurs like Tez.

Larry Elder is a badass. Admired him for years.

Tess is insufferably caught in a victimhood cycle. It’s really sad. I feel sorry for her. She could be a strong, influential leader but instead chooses to remain a victim because “they don’t own the system”.

@playedit0ut290

Ай бұрын

She returned back to her ancestral roots as a slave, ironic.

@Dinoslay

Ай бұрын

MLK Jr. once famously said “I have a dream of my four little children living in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character”. The genius of his speech is in that it applies universally between different races. Literally, skin color ≠ content of character. Trouble is, people like Tez clearly obsess in conflating the two without letting them exist in balance as a person’s two separate qualities. Anyone else noticing the irony?

@RaycrowX

Ай бұрын

@@DinoslayI actually don’t think Tez cares about the content of anyone’s character. She only cares about the outcomes for herself, which is why she’s constructed an argument where she is correct by definition.

@Dinoslay

Ай бұрын

@@RaycrowX The silver lining is that more people have at least learned to identify it.

@kcirtapelyk6060

29 күн бұрын

@@DinoslayKing was the one who started all of this crap in the first place.

Murica Problem. We don't have that here, yet people start to adapt that victim mindset. Social media is cancer

@chazzitz-wh4ly

Ай бұрын

It’s about power dymnaics.

Congratulations BC on 300K subscribers…

I believe what Larry is saying because it's the same issues in white communities. I live in such a community and I see it everyday, kids with no fathers. Larry has a lot of good advice that we could all benefit from.

@chazzitz-wh4ly

Ай бұрын

The first victim of feminism was the nuclear family.

@j.l.4054

Ай бұрын

Seriously... To anyone who doesn't think having an intact family with a father in the home is important, just ask a man who grew up without his father. I promise you he will have countless examples of how his absence harmed his life. Hell I'm one of them - thankfully I feel like I've finally caught up on all the things I should've learned at 36 now, but the effect was profound. I spent a lot of time as a young man & in my 20s just lost because I never had someone to teach me all of the requirements for how to be a man, she lessons about taking accountability in my life. I'm proud of myself that I recognized what was wrong and set out to improve myself to make up for it, but I was behind in life for a long time - many men won't ever catch up.

@starrynight1329

Ай бұрын

@@j.l.4054 I live in a low income, single mother area and many of the boys are ending up doing *rugs, are practically feral, hang with gangs, carrying items to harm people, vandalise ect. Often end up in the care system because their mothers are also abusing substances. The most stable families in the neighborhood are the ones who have a father in the household. I'm not saying that it's true of every household but it is for the majority in the area. I'm really happy you had a good experience.

I love Larry Elder. I learned a lot form him listening to his radio show. He is a good man and would have been a great President.

Larry handled this aggressive interview with such grace and poise! It just goes to show how intoxicating the victim mentality really is. I'd be surprised if any viewers/fans of Charlemagne or Tez changed their opinion.

Jonathan Haidt wrote a book called _The Righteous Mind_ where he tackles issues of morality from a psychological perspective. He addresses how people will rarely be convinced by appeals to reason or judgement, no matter how strong your factual argument. Instead, people are convinced by appeals to their intuition, their gut reaction to an issue. This is why the Left has convinced so many people of these issues, because they tell more compelling stories.

Sad when people do everything in their power to silence opposing views and ensure only their voice, their beliefs, their memorised monologue is heard. Tess needs to believe rac1sm is everywhere even if she has to fabricate it. She is not a good person 😢

@peoswriter1

Ай бұрын

She's not a wise person, certainly. She has made herself impervious to correction. "Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but whoever hates correction is stupid."

Note that Tez is also delivering her lines from a distance. Easy to be aggressive when on Zoom. Charlemagne disagrees just as much as Tez but he carried his argument more succinctly and clearly less aggressive than Tez. Larry shows no physical aggression, but Charlemagne knows to carry his own argument with some level of class when the guy demonstrating the opposite viewpoint is within punching distance.

@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access

Ай бұрын

Yeah cos he knows he’d get his ass beat 😂

Good and Bad people in every race. It should be a battle between good vs evil. Not a battle between races

@kojinmaster

Ай бұрын

I heard something at 13% doing 50% of crimes

@harmonys2102

Ай бұрын

Well I’d prefer not to battle at all but oh well. Wish we could actually cooperate to solve issues but there will always be people like this lady who just want to be right about what they already believe.

@neoevans7833

Ай бұрын

@@harmonys2102 Always gonna have angry nasty people like her in this world. Her mind has been poisoned

"You can look up on Google" LOL 😄

8:46 _"...We're not going to go down that waterhole."_ I suspect Tez takes her privileges for _granite._ What would the Beer n' Stein Bears say about that, I wander? 🤔

@RustCole01

Ай бұрын

She is the type of person that would bite her nose to spider face

@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access

Ай бұрын

They’d bake them a cake and say “bone apple tea” 😂

I'm just trying to think about how she fights with her bf/husband. My heart goes out to you dude.

@kaninchen99949

Ай бұрын

i would not be surprised if she blame "all men" for "big world problems" after her "black white" policy stopped working therefore turns out beeing lesbian for image reasons. i am feeling with every person who have to deal with her. bf/gf/bff/cashier/waitress/supermarket employee... everyone. some people dont want solutions they want drama.

@playedit0ut290

Ай бұрын

Any sensible guy would've run away from that walking red flag.

@sid6856

Ай бұрын

I think she's a dkye. Not by choice bc no man would date her 😂

@jamierussellville101

Ай бұрын

If she is in a relationship, it's never going to be long term. If she degrades a man like Larry Elder, her partner never has a chance. Hopefully, she's someone who doesn't want kids.

congrats on 300k baggage claim!! been watching since your "Everything wrong with Woke Feminism!" video first went big, glad to see you continue to grow

Two things useful to this discussion: 1) "The Righteous Mind" by Jonathan Haidt (amongst other sources) lays out how we are very unlikely to change our minds based on logical argument, unless our emotions are first changed. 2) As Larry Elder points out here, and Mr Beat pointed out in his video "What is Systemic Racism?" - systemic racism has nothing to do with ACTUAL racism, and is almost entirely an effect of wealth inequality and social phenomena (e.g. fatherlessness). So anyone claiming systemic racism has anything to do with racial bias.....is perpetuating systemic racism. Talk about spectacular own goals.

Tez literally said she didn't want to use the term "racism", yet all she wanted to hear from Larry was the word "white".

These are people that profit and benefit off of the victim mentality. When confronted with the truth, of course they will ignore it. Because they make more money spreading hate than they do spreading the truth.

Re-Upload? Or I'm just having Deja-Vu?)

@dredeth

Ай бұрын

Ohhh so I am not (that) crazy then!

@soberlost711

Ай бұрын

Ikr😂

@DLC1990

Ай бұрын

This is a re upload? I wouldnt be surprised since this wasnt something that happened recently.

@tobago528

Ай бұрын

I think the breakfast club copyright striked the first upload. Hence, the re-upload

@kevinbcannell

Ай бұрын

I thought I was going insane 😂 it is a reupload

Growing up we never heard anything like what Larry is saying so thank God for KZread that we finally get to hear alternative perspectives

At this point, Larry Elder is just spitting facts. It's undeniable at this point. That and they vote 1 party as a block. Time they left the plantation.

He should have asked, "Please define the word 'system' in this context." I bet she can't define it.

Umm, no. None of the hosts give a shit about anyone but themselves. Professional victims. Not a dime of the money they earns ever goes to anyone but themselves...

We have a saying back home: "You can awaken someone who is sleeping, but you can never awaken someone who is pretending to sleep."

To Tez: A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.

If she wants a system where brown people are in control just pick any country in Africa. Then ask are they economically, morally, and socially better than the USA. democracy does not guarantee success regardless of ethnic heritage. It merely grants us all the opportunity. ☮️

@Valen-mh9fh

Ай бұрын

Yeah but those African countries are poor and badly run because of the global elite system and colonialism. That gripe can be tapped into by politicians of all colours though so probably less used by Tess. Univariate analysis is tiresome nonetheless.

@DD_Vandal

Ай бұрын

​@@Valen-mh9fhYou could just talk about ethiopia, which was not colonized

Tez is nasty

The fact that she kept changing the question every 10 seconds and refusing to give him a chance to answer while acting like he was the one who didn't understand was beyond frustrating. Also I'm not sure what she defines as "in charge of the system" every response of elected officials being black was according to her "not in charge because they are doing their job". How on earth do you become in charge????

@RaycrowX

Ай бұрын

You become in charge by creating the system. Tez believes the US federal and state governments have an essential quality that favors European-Americans, and this cannot be changed. No, I am not joking.

So according to Tess.. Unless you wipe the slate clean law wise, and start over with only black people writing the laws, it will never be good enough..

@RaycrowX

Ай бұрын

You nailed it!

Hearing Tess focus, to the exclusion of all else, on 'the system' made me realize she's right, but for the wrong reason. Here's the punchline: The government is NOT your friend. It is perfectly happy to have you dependent upon it for food, shelter, and income. The only thing it asks in return is complete ownership of you, your family, and everything you own. As Larry tried to tell her, no one is being forced to get on government assistance, it is all voluntary. People need to understand one important fact: NOTHING IS FREE....ESPECIALLY FREEDOM.

So I didn't get a notification even though I'm signed up to receive all notifications. But ... Your video was at the top of my home page.

@poakcastle

Ай бұрын

Unsubscribe and resubsribe, it should fix the problem.

@RustCole01

Ай бұрын

Its bc of systemic racism... try calling the algorithm a bigot

@Valen-mh9fh

Ай бұрын

Systemic racism right there! 😅

Girls need their fathers, too. Thank you for the video! ❤

Haven't you uploaded this video already? Anyway, I wonder if you'll make a special video for your 300K subscribers soon.

Instead of bringing up people in positions of power to prove his point, Larry should have said something like "Okay, hypothetically, what system would you like black people to set up?". Chances are she'd say something about socialism and then he could have debated her from that angle.

@Valen-mh9fh

Ай бұрын

She wouldn't answer, she wasn't there to have an honest debate.

@Blakmagic88

Ай бұрын

Nah, trust me, she, and other black people that think like her, haven’t thought it through that far.

I had to skip the bits with that breakfast club woman

She is horrendous. Literally has no understanding of debate. I really do not like that podcast. They always seem to attack their guests. God knows why people go on it!

Victim mentality is so so sad...

I saw your post on X about views on your channel as of late! I hope that it goes back to normal very soon! Love the content and thanks so much for the hard work!

I watched this interview when it happened and it was such a struggle to hang in there. Elder is wildly regarded as an Uncle Tom by his own community. So as a middle aged American I don’t give a flying F about other “community’s” anymore. You can lead a horse to water but can’t force them to drink. I only care about my wife and kids and my immediate family. I vote in the best interest of them and no one else. My empathy has been literally destroyed by listening to conversations like the one you are sighting here and I myself don’t care anymore. And the longer you focus on this topic you too will end up feeling the same so good luck with that.

@Valen-mh9fh

Ай бұрын

What's an 'Uncle Tom' (I'm not American)?

@stevemps11

Ай бұрын

@@Valen-mh9fh it is a pejorative for black men who leave the democratic plantation and its text book definition is:a black man considered to be excessively obedient or servile to white people.

@justachannel8600

Ай бұрын

@@Valen-mh9fh A Black person who will ingratiate himself with Whites. Same as a pick-me-girl but for Blacks.

@EllisDavidPerry

Ай бұрын

@@Valen-mh9fh Look up the novel Uncle Tom's Cabin by Harriet Beecher Stowe and about it

Most effective forms of persuasion require an understanding of the opposite pov, which can most easily be built by regularly being challenged. Current extremes of the political spectrum seen to have forgotten this

@PerkulatorBenny

Ай бұрын

Beyond just forgetting that, the problem is that most of those extreme people don't even want to try, because that means they have to answers questions and counter arguments, instead they just want to throw their opinion at you until you accept it. They don't want to persuade, they want to indoctrinate, because that's a one way street where they never have to think about or question anything, especially not their own beliefs.

This is why I look up to Larry Elder. I'm so sick of race and gender being weaponized to shut down dialogue and conversation. Its literally creating a divide in our country and if it isn't stopped, then we'll end up back at Jim Crow Laws and Segregation all over again.

“I was more scared of my father than the cops”- Larry Elder 6:36 Exactly. Someone once talked about how by telling sons of single women that fathers are useless, worthless and unnecessary, you tell them THEY are unnecessary as fathers and that the person they impregnate can do without them just fine. How is this ok especially when it hurts a community?

Wonderful analysis Baggage Claim. I live in Australia and in 2023 we were luckily able to defeat the proposed Voice to Parliament, which would have seen a change to our Constitution enshrining a race-based committee with the power to challenge any proposed or existing legislation that affected indigenous citizens, which is ALL legislation. Many of its most prominent advocates had open links to the Communist Party of Australia. Many of their arguments are exactly the same infantilizing narratives you point to in your excellent video. Again, we were luckily able to defeat it, as most Australians did not want Australia divided along racial lines. Keep up the great work. There is more that connects us than separates us, and we should keep that message going 🙂

A person who is unwilling to listen or to be challenged cannot learn, a person who has to shout down their opponent is afraid of the truth, a person who blames others for the situation they find themself in is unwilling to make change for themself... those that came before us acknowedged their obligation to society and worked to effect positive change, those today know their rights but not their obligation....

"The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles." ― Marx & Engels: The Communist Manifesto Leftist ideology is pretty straight forward and not terribly difficult to dismantle, in spite of the intellectual gravity it's high-priests, priestesses, and prophets try to assign to it. The argument that woman is making is as old as the French Revolution. In order to get the outcome you want you have to tear down the existing system and replace it with something else. It's why she keeps returning to the idea. It's how Marxist agitators and community organizers have been trained for more than a century. There is no interest in working within or trying to reform a system because the goal is the acquisition of power, not some pie-in-the-sky utopia where social justice and equality rule the day. The powers-that-be-and wannabe know that is mere agitprop for the masses. Power and control. That is what that young lady is arguing for, nothing more, nothing less. The machinations have been altered but the premise remains the same. For Marx the struggle revolved around economics and the elimination of the Superstructure, the system the bourgeoisie put in place to manipulate, exploit, and control the proletariat. For today's woke-set, the struggle is cultural and revolves around white privilege and the destruction of the patriarchy, the system put in place by white men to control women and people of color. That's why the people on that panel weren't interested in Larry's facts on poverty. They wanted to assign blame, not look at root causes or solve problems. For some of them I imagine it is simply the old race baiting routine, a way to make a buck off of people's grievances. But for that young lady you can tell there is more to it. She is a true believer and sees herself as part of the vanguard that will usher in the new order where her and her ilk get to be on top. True believers won their share of mini-revolutions in the 20th Century and their legacy is upwards of one hundred million marked and unmarked graves. Before you take on an enemy you have to understand who you are up against, what the rules of engagement are, and the nature of the battlefield. You can climb the highest mountain and yell facts until you are blue in the face but as long as the other side wins the war of emotion and captures the souls of their minions, those facts won't amount to a hill of beans. It's not that that young lady didn't want to hear Larry's argument, it's that she didn't want her audience to hear it. Like I say, they aren't hard to understand and for the most part they aren't terribly clever. But they are loud, and they are determined, and zealots are a tough bunch to take on. Keep that in mind and understand which power is really pulling the strings, who it is they actually serve, knowingly or unknowingly. I know, it's a long post and most won't take the time to read it, but at least take the time to learn who it is you are truly up against, because it's not that bunch.

Listening to her brings 2 old sayings in mind. "An empty vessel makes more noise than a full" and "arguing with a moron only proves that there are two" he shouldve just ignored.😊

@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access

Ай бұрын

That latter one, I’m keeping that, thanks

@Dinoslay

Ай бұрын

It’s like trying to convince a broken record to not be broken.

If you replace the word "systemic" with the word "magic", everything they say makes so much more sense.

Thank you Baggage for re-uploading this video. This message needs to reach more people. Else, my heart goes to Tess's family, bf or husband. I can't imagine that house/relationship.

"It's hard to argue with a smart person. It's damn near impossible to argue with a stupid one." - Mark Twain "Never try to argue with a stupid person. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." - Bill Murray

She's so ignorant. She had to attack him. Love your channel ❤️

Debates usually involve with pursuit of the truth, facts and problem solving. You can't debate with those who are not in the pursuit of those.

Larry Elder is totally right. I did many shit in my youth. But i always had more fear of my father to find out than the police.

I'm so sick of this racism. Don't know who telling the truth. Jesus you our only hope

no way, 0:12 I didn't know Jabba the huts wife had a podcast 0-o, Jokes aside what a man Larry Elder is, how he held his temper in check with that creature was awe inspiring, man is a Saint.

I used to have the exact same mindset as that woman. It's honestly sad! The only reason she thinks this way is due to her being fed false information for years. I hope she finds a way to see the truth!

When people have forfeited responsibility and choose to be blind it becomes impossible for an outsider to open their eyes. There's probably a bigger chance that those who refuse to change their mind despite evidence to the contrary are more loyal to their ideology than to the actual solving of the problem. You see when we assume a certain worldview we then attach our ability to perceive it to a layer of pride and accomplishment. When someone comes along and shows us evidence that says we got it all wrong it becomes an attack not only of our understanding of the world but it also gets viewed as a personal attack on our intellect. This is why humility is so important for people to practice in life because it allows us to clear a space to pivot and adjust when more evidence is found. Like the saying "the only thing i know is that i know nothing", this is an acknowledgment of how limited we are with information and what is knowable. You can only remain teachable if you have humility. When you are fighting against truth like the person in this video you are going down a path of foolishness and a dead-end. She will not thrive with viewing the world as though she has no agency because everything is being done TO her. Even if it were true it still wouldn't be the way to view things because then you ensure that nothing will change unless its done for you because by nature a victim has inly the ability to be further victimized.

Baggage Claim is erudite, pragmatic and thoughtful when she approaches modern issues whether political or societal.

Why did this video get taken down?

@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access

Ай бұрын

Go on, think about it

It is NOT the quality. Your content is well researched, well written and delivered. I click on your videos so fast when I see a new one. Perhaps some people thought you were an Amber Heard / Harry & Meghan type channel? Idk I rewatch your videos when you’re away bc you’re one of my favourites so I’m really not sure . I 💕your videos. I’ll share more.

Really appreciate the editing style of your recent videos.

Great video!!!

Glad to see the video back up I think this does a good job of showing what you are talking about and how some people manipulate conversations to try to make a flawed point when they haven't really made any point

Yours is quickly becoming my favourite channel on KZread. You’re so concise and articulate. I appreciate the work you do to make videos for me. Thank you.

While it's extremely important to "steel man" contrary points of view, something we all could get better at is examining our own ideas, checking them for flaws. Often when edit our beliefs, those of others gain clarity--at least to us.

300k, congratulations 🎉🥳😊

I love your content! Interesting, intelligent & entertaining! I’m a big supporter ! Thank you

You cannot fix ignorance acceptance of the truth

Imagine where California would be now if Larry Elder had been elected.

Larry Elder nailed it. I really wish more people would listen to him. We could end racism if more people would listen to people like him and Morgan Freeman.

I admire him for his patience

@christophertracy2807

Ай бұрын

Patience is easier when you know that you outclass the other person by many miles

Can you change people's mind? Sure, you can. Just don't expect them to switch their opinion immediately. Give them time to adjust. Don't push them hard. Just be persistent. You also wouldn't accept a completely different opinion just because the other person is pushing you to it. People have an ego. We may complain that ego is obstructing an opinion exchange, but we all have it. Respect it and their ego will appreciate it. And keep discussing even with a person that would never ever accept anything you said. You may not convince the other person, but as long as there is an audience listening to both of you, you can convince some of them. Repeat it several times and those closeminded fanatics will remain alone and powerless. Larry Elder may have been frustrated by feeling of a complete pointlessness of talking to that woman, but here we are, reflecting on who of them had a point and why. So, his effort wasn't pointless.

I cannot listen to that lady on breakfast club. HOW she is a person paid to speak is beyond comprehension.

Congrats on 300K! You earned it.👍

I can't handle Tess in any capacity and is a perfect example of a progressive lawyer.

Thanks for the important work you are doing as well. :)

If I were black, I would absolutely despise the lady's viewpoint. The notion that I was born and kept down is ludicrous and without basis in any actual fact. I would also resent the blind insistence I would fail no matter what I did because the unseen evil was keeping me down. Every social group does themselves disservice irrespective of skin colour, that's why you identify it and fix it. Families are vital. Girl bosses are not, 75 percent of the population in prison was raised by a girl boss....In a world where Thomas Sowell exists this woman has all the intellectual acumen of a minnow. Thanks Baggage Claim for another thought provoking video.

Right on. Thanks for sharing.

SIGN = Shame Insults Needs to be right 😅

it seems like a reupload