Fascinating how Anatolia went from such a diverse place to being dominated by Greeks and a few centuries later by Turks. Thank you for the video!

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

You're welcome :)

@TheBobVova

7 ай бұрын

Is Gobekle-Tepe considered as Anatolia or Mesopotamia?

@blueshirt26

7 ай бұрын

Just like the Iberian peninsula, which used to have several paleo-hispanic, celtic, germanic and semitic languages before all of them being replaced by Latin dialects with the exception of Basque.

@ZachRULES96

7 ай бұрын

Turks hate diversity. Just look at what they did in arstakh. The Azeris invaded Armenian land and did ethnic cleansing. This happened. Last month. The Turks did it to the Armenians and Greeks in World War I Now the Turks want to invade Armenia proper for a corridor with Azerbaijan. #FUTurkey

@Diegosarmii

7 ай бұрын

​@@blueshirt26 Germanic languages before the arrival of Romans?

This format in smaller regions is amazing. Would love to see a history of languages in Iberia

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

Great work! Kalašma language which belonged to the Anatolian was discovered only this year and it’s amazing!

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much

@turxanazimzade3917

5 ай бұрын

on which period armenian turned to be an independent language ? i mean from proto -armenian to armenian.do you have any resource for that?@@CostasMelas

Excellent job snowing the Orontes watershed Hellenize in the 3rd century BCE. Seleucid settlement programs are critically overlooked imo

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

Thank you so much! Your channel is one of the staples of KZread and justify that platform's very existence.

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much

I didn't expect it but really wanted to see that topic. Thank you for your work!

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

You're welcome :)

Splendid video! I was hoping so much for an Anatolia-focused video!

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

@user-gd3dx4pd8q

6 ай бұрын

​@@CostasMelasнеужели только в деревне Вакыфлы разговаривают на армянском?! Как же остальные армяне?!

Probably our ancestors used to talk all of these languages, I say this as a Turkish. I believe that we are mix of native Anatolians and Turkics

@vehbisabanc7843

7 ай бұрын

Bu kesin. Ama içimizdeki türk islamcilara anlatamazsin

@user-gd3dx4pd8q

6 ай бұрын

Родственники?! Да ну, нет нет нет

@shoxmurodtaxirov6918

6 ай бұрын

​@@user-gd3dx4pd8qда но с вами точно нет.

@user-gd3dx4pd8q

6 ай бұрын

@@shoxmurodtaxirov6918 мечтать не вредно, огланчик. Все мы братья и сестры. Почитай Коран

@claromale

6 ай бұрын

Restore youre anatolian ancestor indoeuropean languages

Amazing. Great video!

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

Thanks and congratulations for this comprehensive time-lapse.

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much

This is impressive, as usual! Thanks for making these videos! By the way, I am not sure if you heard about it, but a new Indo-European language has been discovered very recently: the Kalašma language! Experts classify it as a Luwic language inside the Anatolian branch, but considering the location in which it was first attested, I am afraid that it may be a relative of the Palaic language! Or maybe the Kaskians didn't wipe out the population of Pala after all and Palaic language evolved into Kalašma language... 🤔 Who knows, perhaps we are about to solve the mystery of what actually happened to Pala...

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much. The discovery is very recent and it is still unknown if it is connected to any of the known languages

@turkcukayi

7 ай бұрын

Pala people lived in my area. They are thought to be a mixture of Hittites and Phrygians.

@ElHeraldoHispano

7 ай бұрын

@@turkcukayi I'm not sure about the ethnic root of the population of Pala, nor if they were descendants of Phrygians and Anatolian peoples. I think that ethnic background fits more the Mysians, which are thought to be a mixture of Phrygians and Lydians. What I do know is that Pala people spoke their own distinct Anatolian language, different from Hittite.

@turkcukayi

7 ай бұрын

@@ElHeraldoHispano The Paphlagonians, a post-Pala tribe, were a branch of the Phrygians. It is certain that the Pala tribe is an Indo-European tribe.

@ElHeraldoHispano

7 ай бұрын

@@turkcukayi Indeed, the population of Pala was Indo-European. Palaic was an Indo-European language belonging to the Anatolian branch. But Phrygians were not Anatolian speakers. Their language, Phrygian, belonged to the Paleo-Balkan branch of Indo-European languages. Plus, we can't be sure if Paphlagonian language was actually Phrygian. Maybe it was the descendant of Palaic, as I mention in my comment, but I may be wrong.

You are truly amazing and your channel is beautiful and unique

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much

Excellent work friend ! Kudos to all the hard work needed to make such an informative video !!!

@CostasMelas

21 күн бұрын

Thank you

Incredible video, keep it up!❤🫡

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

Nice video. Thanks!

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

You're welcome :)

Such an excellent work, as always. Just a very little remark : I think « mediterranean substrate » is specifically a north-eastern one. But each of your work is a pleasure to watch - even such a tragic one like this. Keep on please !

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much

2:50 il never fail to find it wild how some Celts settled and made a language in Anatolia. Those are the Galatians for you

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

They invaded Macedonia and Thrace from the Balkans and Central Europe. After the repulse of them by Antigonus Gonatas they settled in Asia Minor where they clashed with the Seleucids and eventually settled in a part of Phrygia later known as Galatia.

@JcDizon

7 ай бұрын

Yeah and there is even a book from the Bible named after them but I guess most people who read the Bible has no idea that the Galatians were Celtic people.

@GAMER123GAMING

7 ай бұрын

@@CostasMelas The Celts also settled in Tylis in thrace

@user-ks2rz1ww7u

7 ай бұрын

В свое время они подмяли почти всю Европу. Если бы были созданы политические нации, то кроме кельтских народов с британских островов и Бретани во Франции, на континенте могли существовать и поныне кельтских государства. Не сложилось...

@romayi_seviyorum.117

6 ай бұрын

And I am an Anatolian Oghuz Turk with Celtic(Galatian) heritage from my mother's side of my family.

Super cool video, although I would have liked to see the different language groups such as indoeuropeans etc color coded to grasp a bit easier what is going on

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

great work dude!

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

much more accurate then your earlier history of turkic languages video. i hope you do one like this with iran.

Crazy to think just how many extinct languages where spoken in those lands

@user-gd3dx4pd8q

6 ай бұрын

Очень много вымерших. Хурриты, лувийцы, хетты. Их потомки генетические ещё живы а языки мертвы

Awesome! I would love to see a video about the history of languages in the Middle East one day.

Hat off, man.

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

👍🏻

Hello costas, great video but there are a few mistakes. I am from Trabzon and my village and about 40 villages throughout Trabzon speak Greek (Pontic Greek). Each village has a population of 500. If you want, I can give you a link to the maps. You can color those areas blue

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Yes, I know about a population of remaining Greeks from Pontus, but unfortunately they are not recorded by the Turkish state and their number is undetermined. If you want, give me a list of Greek-speaking villages

@daimyo672

7 ай бұрын

(nişanyan yer adları index)This is a Turkish source. By clicking on the villages on this map, you can see the Greek-speaking villages. In Turkish, it says "rum dilli müslüman", that is, Greek-speaking Muslim.

@daimyo672

7 ай бұрын

Trabzon,Tonya 5 Village iskenderli,Turalı,Sayraç,Kozluca,Yakçukur Hayrat 2 village Yarlı ,Yırca. Çaykara 25 Village Akdoğan,Arpaözü,Aşağıkumlu,Baltacı,Çambaşı,çamlıbel, derindere,Eğridere,kabataş karaçam,kayran,koldere,köknar,köseli, maraşlı,soğanlı şahinkaya,şekersu,taşkıran,taşlıgedik,taşören,ulucami, Uzungöl,yaylaönü,yeşilalan,yukarıkumlu,

@daimyo672

7 ай бұрын

Trabzon,Maçka,18 village Yüzüncüyıl,Yemişli,Yazlık,taşalan,Sukenarı,örnekalan,Ortaköy,köprüyanı,kozağaç,konaklar,kiremitli,kırıntaş,Ergin, çayırlar,atasu,armağan,arıkaya,alataş. KÖPRÜBAŞI 7 village Beşköy,konuklu ,yılmazlar,küçükdoğanlı,asmalı,emirgan. DERNEKPAZARI 9 Village Akköse,çalısanlar,çayırbaşı,gülen günebakan,kondu küçükkalas,ormancık,taşcılar,yenice.

@daimyo672

7 ай бұрын

hope it was useful for you. I am sending the link of the site with the map, but it is not visible (Nisanyan map index). I got this information from there. The majority of these villages speak Greek. The population is between 20.00 and 25.00.

Today, Turks who research know that their ancestry is a mixture of indigenous Asia Minor peoples and Turks. For example, tribes such as the Pala, Paphlagones, Phrygians and Hittites lived in my city, Kastamonu.

@tanhukim9963

7 ай бұрын

Çok cahilce konuşuyorsun

@panos_gr_77_

6 ай бұрын

Original turks came from central Asia Nowadays turks have more greek DNA than turkic 😂

@tanhukim9963

6 ай бұрын

@@panos_gr_77_ greek DNA😂. No. We are Mediterranean and Kafkasoid ( Hattic, Hurri, Urartu, Kaskian) DNA. Greek DNA= Arian R1a dna.

@panos_gr_77_

6 ай бұрын

@@tanhukim9963 The Greeks are descended from the Pelasgians, original Turks came from Central Asia nowadays Turkish people are more Greek than turkic go search videos on KZread with Turks making DNA tests and see 😅

@panos_gr_77_

6 ай бұрын

@@tanhukim9963 However, Greek was spoken in the Anatolia region long before the existence of the Turks

Nice video.

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

Good work.

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

@turxanazimzade3917

7 ай бұрын

​when armenian language is born?on which timeline accuratelly?

Do a history of the African Bantu languages! I would appreciate it!

Random question for a friend:what do you think about the fact that people say that romanians have a different origin than the one shown on this map?

Please do a video about Mesopotamian Substrate/languages.

Wow, I didn’t know Greek was so prevalent in inland Anatolia, I thought it dominated mostly along the coast. Great work!

@georgios_5342

7 ай бұрын

During Roman times the locals were usually bilingual in Greek and their regional languages. And in Byzantine times, they only spoke Greek, from the 5th century to the 11th there was a largely contiguous monolingual Greek Christian Anatolia

@00fgytduydrtu

7 ай бұрын

I am 1/8 Cappadocian Greek from Nigdi

@musfikinsan3423

7 ай бұрын

​@@00fgytduydrtuNot Niğdi.İt's Niğde.

@czacik333

7 ай бұрын

Funnily, Anatolia was more Greek than present day Greece, which was heavily overrun by Slavs

Thanks, great video. From your video it appears that western Mediterranean regions of Anatolia had a Greek-speaking majority at the end of the nineteenth century. I was wondering whether there are some statistics on this. Thanks!

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

No other language groups are mentioned in the Byzantine Themes of the East after the 8th century, with the exception of the Armenians

It was a great video. You put a lot of effort into it and chose the perfect ambiente and concept. However we need to remember at all times that such maps have a fallacy of at least 50%. Maps are only representing the guessed location and span of influence of some kings that we know about.

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you. Can you be more specific? Feedback is very helpful for improvement.

@ItsMe-jb4ch

7 ай бұрын

@@CostasMelas Of course. Thank you for asking. 1) Maps are drawn to give an idea on the region of influence of a sovereign, based on inscriptions we read about them. If we hadn't read about them, we wouldn't have taken their names into consideration. That way, history books were filled with too much credit for boastful rulers. Many lied about their influence, in order to go down in the annals with a good reputation. 2) In the same time we lose sight of other people that are not mentioned anymore because we rely conveniently on the map of the super power. Like the Ottomans. It's like we say Europeans, but we know that every nation has its own region of influence. Now imagine it was the ancient time, and smaller nations didn't have either the means or opportunity to write down their own history. Maybe they did, and we need to read them yet. Many have been destroyed deliberately by ruling dynasties. Imagine that the only scripts surviving in Europe after 3000 years, are just the reports on the European Union. What would historians in future do? 3) Maps deny the non-state, non-authoritarian kingdoms their place. It's always the loudest bully or most praised clerical regime, or by chance most spoken about empire that gets remembered. I recommend you to read the books "Beyond, State, Power and Violence" and "Against the Grain". They give a good insight into these topics

Hey Costas, great video. I have a question: What is your favourite language family other than Hellenic? Keep up the great work :D

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much.

@lekevire

7 ай бұрын

@@CostasMelas You're welcome, but mind answering my question please?

@user-gd3dx4pd8q

6 ай бұрын

Нет греческой семьи есть греческая группа внутри индоевропейской семьи. Мой родной язык армянский входит в эту семью но не группу

This is good, I would love to see the languages of the British Isles!

Would you do a history of the languages of Mesopotamia and the Zagros Mountains? A type of Sumerian, Kassite, Uxii, Cyrtian or Gutian language?

@CostasMelas

6 ай бұрын

I would love to make it. It is a difficult topic

A "languages of the middle east" video would be cool since you can see some of it here. I know you made a semitic languages one a few years ago, but still

Are there some theories of Hurro-Urartian and Nakh-Daghestani ties? Hattic and Circassian-Abkhaz-Ubukh ties?

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

About the first theory there is Nakh traditions

@osmanozdemir2134

7 ай бұрын

Hattic was probably related to NW-Caucasian languages. But it doesn't mean that "Hatti Civilization" belonged to circassians or abkhaz etc.. Hattians were indigenous people of Anatolia and they had their own culture. They have nothing to do with circassians.

Good video

only if one of those ancient anatolian languages (lydian, hittite, lycian, capadoccian, luwian) had survived and had taken over all anatolia, now anatolia would have had its own identity and proud history, its sad how they once become hellenized and now turkified, anatolians didn't have much luck i guess

@lucasjames7524

7 ай бұрын

I feel like Anatolia is stuck in a situation where it's too central and too big for everyone else to ignore, but not big or rich enough in itself to fend everyone else's interests off. Anatolia seems to always be coveted territory that can't quite be its own enduring geopolitical center which commands a sphere of influence. It works for a while, and then fails.

@najibullahghafori3739

7 ай бұрын

@@lucasjames7524 yeah, the geographical position is very central, between europe and asia, it has always been the target of conquests, it was really tough place back then

@aliercankaplan2481

7 ай бұрын

But this happened everywhere. Culture in an area inevitably changes overtime because of migrations, invasions, political changes etc.

@najibullahghafori3739

7 ай бұрын

@@aliercankaplan2481 no, many people have kept their language and culture for at least thousands of years, look at persian, pashto, armenian, greek, european languages, they are all thousands of years old

@user-gd3dx4pd8q

6 ай бұрын

​@@najibullahghafori3739армянских сохранился но Родина конечно уменьшилась из за политических дегенератов

Wait, is that Circassian in the Orontes, Antoich and Taurus at 664 AD?. How did they get there?

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Greek under the Arabs, blue color with green stripes not cyan

@ikengaspirit3063

7 ай бұрын

@@CostasMelas oh, thanks

How can I learn Subartu language?

Mitanni Aryan is very interesting! I have speculations if they might have been a split off from the Andronovo and Sintashta and migrated into the Caucasus, directly from the Steppe unlike the mainstream hypothesis that holds that they migrated via the BMAC region. Former would be very interesting, if true.

@dionisiodussart5629

5 ай бұрын

Indo-Aryan nation was born in Bactriana (BMAC site) after killing the Oxus civilization, which happened around 1700 BC. Two centuries later began the vedic time in Indian "Aryavastra", and at the same time the indo-aryans showed up as a part of the ruling class in the kingdom of mittani. It's widely agreed that the all the indo-aryan nation, that stood much closer to its european traditions (religion and language) than - appeared much later - the iranians, was the first andronovan invading wave that collided with the Oxus civilization.

I always want a video like this, Thank you! Languages of Iranian plateau next?

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

You're welcome :)

@najibullahghafori3739

7 ай бұрын

yeah it would amazing( iranian plateau ) we speak pashto an iranian language

Excellent work!

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much

Oh boy it's gonna get spicy

Do a history of Khurramites every year vieo.

Great video. Can't wait for a 'the spread of Afro-Asiatic'

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

How is the province of Hatay(Turkey) considered to speak arabic? Why are there no Turkish language enclaves inside southeastern anatolia throughout 1900s and 2000s? There are dominantly turkish spoken regions inside there

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

The southern part of Hatay includes mainly Arabic-speakers

@collegepark301

7 ай бұрын

@@CostasMelas that could make sense, however showing the entire southeastern anatolia in kurdish language completely is wrong though, its a dominantly kurdish spoken region thats true, but a few provinces there have significantly more turkish speakers than kurdish, there has to be turkish exclaves there essentially, but i don't blame you here its the sources that are mixed up

@Karkafs-Desiderium

7 ай бұрын

The map is mostly right, when you make a map, low populated land is often shown as one sigle color making it seem like more, at the end Kurds are just 20-25% of Turkey.@@collegepark301

@oyungogdfrust4136

7 ай бұрын

@@CostasMelasi am from south hatay! you are wrong, most people there speak turkish among themselves, and only syrian immigrants and old people speak arabic. it definetly is present, but it isnt a majority like you show in the video. i personally would switch the arabic and turkish colors in hatay.

@bcs332

7 ай бұрын

@@CostasMelas What I read is that Mamluks destroyed the Antiocheian Principality and the city itself then Turkmens repopulated the region, especially the coastal sides of the province. The 1915 Frenchmade ethnic map confirms the ethnic distribution

circissians disappeared from caucuses in 1864 possibly majorly

Tyrkiye 🇹🇷 tek Qana ALGA! Kazakhstan 🇰🇿 Kyrgyzstan 🇰🇬 Uzbekistan 🇺🇿 Turkmenistan 🇹🇲 Azerbaijan 🇦🇿 sizdermen birge!

@kimkardashiansdaddy2744

7 ай бұрын

You forgot Gagauzia and the ``russian`` Turkic republics

@user_18789

7 ай бұрын

en azi biz azeriler sizinen bir deyiliq! cunku mongol deyiliq ve en azi 3000 yildir bu menteqedeyiq

@user_18789

7 ай бұрын

siz moqol toxumlarisiniz

@tanhukim9963

7 ай бұрын

​@@user_18789sen azerbaycanlı değilsin. Yalan söyleme.

@Kartlos1

7 ай бұрын

​@@user_18789 Sende irani/kafkas çorbasının tekisin. Kendi kanını korumuş olanları aşağılamak senin haddine değil.

Awesome, as usual. Now, next level : mixing languages moves with haplogroups moves🤩🤩🤩🤩 I strongly prefer maps were all languages are on it than only those of selected families. It's better for the understanding of populations moves. PS : I think Galatians were a bit more extended, and a bit more southern, but that's just a detail, and I am even not certain of my affirmation ^^ I still think than Trojan war was closely related to the end of Hittites and to Sea Peoples. I'm fascinated by history of antiquity before 1000BC. And I regret than actual historians use only archeologist fantasy names (bell baker, yamna, etc) instead of ethnic names wrote by ancient historians. Actuals consider those writings as false and crappy, but they're wrong. After all, it was, under mock of his colleagues, by using ancient historians writings than a guy discovered the ruins of Troy. Exactly when and where those ancient told it was.

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

@KartovOndulevitch

7 ай бұрын

​@@CostasMelasif I may dare a suggestion, it would be to not draw the "dominant political language" (latin bc Rome, Greek bc Alexander and Byzantium, etc) because I find more hard to "read" the map with all those lines mixed. I am aware than it would make lose some infos, but we would have a clearer view of the big picture. Of course, that's just a suggest, you're the king of your channel. Hope those critics don't bother you🙏❤️

Love your videos from Türkiye!

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

Germanic language in 2nd century?? What do we know about that one

As descendants of the indigenous peoples of Asia Minor and the Turks, we are the heirs of both the Eastern Roman Empire and the Ottoman Empire. We accept and embrace the entire heritage of Asia Minor, from the Hattians to Türkiye.

@es8994

6 ай бұрын

In your imagination you can be whatever you want but in reality in order to be a heir of something in that case these imperial identities eastern roman or ottoman where the genetic connection didn't matter at all, you need to have a strong and unbroken cultural heritage to it.

@turkcukayi

6 ай бұрын

@@es8994 There is already cultural closeness. Many traditions in Türkiye have been inherited from ancient peoples. For example, in some regions of Türkiye, bride price is given to the girl's side when getting married. This is a tradition from the Hittites.

@panos_gr_77_

6 ай бұрын

Turks and Ottomans came thousand years later in Anatolia than Greeks

@turkcukayi

6 ай бұрын

@@panos_gr_77_ The Greeks established colonies only in coastal cities. Turks settled all over Asia Minor.

@panos_gr_77_

6 ай бұрын

The Greek element dominated the Byzantine Empire, What you say is not true, the Greeks were first in Asia Minor and in Pontus region

Wasn't the coast of Middle East, Greek speaking during Roman era?

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Mainly the ruling class but the local population used mainly Aramaic

@camponotusinflatus9920

7 ай бұрын

@@CostasMelas Δηλαδή εκεί δεν έγινε εξελληνισμός, όπως στην εσωτερική Μικρά Ασία;

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

@@camponotusinflatus9920 Δεν υπήρξε σ'αυτή την έκταση. Κυρίαρχη ελληνική γλώσσα εκτός Μικράς Ασίας, υπήρξε στην κοιλάδα του Ορόντη, στη Δεκάπολη της Παλαιστίνης, στη Βόρεια Αίγυπτο και σε κάποιες ακόμα μεμονωμένες ελληνιστικές πόλεις

What are your sources?

I missed you

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

👍🏻

Hello can you do that with greece

Poor Greek speakers that were persecuted and kicked out of Anatolia and Bosphurus

@tanhukim9963

6 ай бұрын

Geçmişi boşver kanka.

@tughluq8324

6 ай бұрын

Poor Arabic speaker that were persecuted and kicked out of Portugal and Iberia

@madonebo9249

2 ай бұрын

Poor Anatolian languages went extinct because of Hellenization

@hopeundertheblacksun

4 күн бұрын

​@@tughluq8324not poor,they were invaders 😂

Aramaic is goated for having persisted for so long

@kimkardashiansdaddy2744

7 ай бұрын

they are getting kurdified now or they flee to istanbul or europe

In the 16th century, the Anatolian Turkish ethnogenesis was completed in Anatolia and ethnically it was the same as it is today. You also make it seem like the coastal regions were Turkified very late. however, ethnogenesis was completed there earlier than in the interior regions. So around the 14th century. We have samples of Turks from the "Teke" region, which carry the genetic structure of today's Anatolian Turks. There are regions in Central Anatolia where Kurds have come since the 16th century. And in those regions (around the south of Ankara and the north of Konya) the Kurdish presence may be considerable. But you have shown even irrelevant Anatolian Turkmen regions as having a Kurdish population. Bullshit.

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

The Byzantine Empire still survived in the 13th and early 14th centuries in Anatolia, and the Trebizond Empire still survived in the 15th. Turkish immigration was relatively small in number to immediately replace a large population. Even in the 20th century more than 20% of Anatolia were Greek or Armenian, as Ottoman censuses show

@SK58724

7 ай бұрын

Bro, the Oghuz masses migrating to Anatolia mix with the Rums (Anatolian Greeks) and from this mixture the ethnogenesis of the Anatolian Turks occurs. In order for the genetic structure of the Turks to be completed (as I said, this was completed in the 16th century), there should be no Rum population superiority other than this mixture. However, in your explanation, it seems that regions with a solid Medieval Turkic genetic heritage, such as the Ege and the Akdeniz, had a Rum majority until the establishment of the Republic of Turkey. It is as if Turks are the minority and Rums are the majority. And this is utterly ridiculous. I do not claim that the Oghuzs came to Anatolia and suddenly established population superiority. They gradually arrived with a very large population and mixed with the natives, forming a new ethnic group. And nearly 500 years have passed since this process was completed. The exception to this situation is the minorities who have not changed their religion and have not experienced genetic mixing with the Oghuzs. However, these minorities were not superior in terms of population in general or regionally, as the name suggests.

@berkay5233

7 ай бұрын

@@CostasMelasIt has been understood that “Elite Dominance Model” was wrong.

@SK58724

7 ай бұрын

@@turkcukayi Hocam olay zaten o dönemki Teke örneklerinin şuanki Anadolu Türkü genetik profiline yakın çıkması. Eğer dediğin gibi olsa daha orta asyalı çıkarlardı.

@bahozciyaheiknt1344

6 ай бұрын

​@@SK58724kendini bu kadar yormana gerek yok çünkü turj diye bir ırk yok 😂

Why does some regions of Gaziantep are marked with disputed color between Kurds and Turks, and even some regions of it being Kurdish-speaking majority? Almost all of the population of Gaziantep are Turks expect Nizip province where mostly Kurds reside.

@srd895

7 ай бұрын

2023 map is very wrong. He thinks ethnicity = language and adds a lot of blue and green dots in all over Anatolia but it is very wrong and like Gaziantep a lot of place with %90 Turkish population and %99 Turkish speaking he adds disputed color which is also very wrong.

@hiiamfrog

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@srd895it doesn’t change their ethnic bro. they’re kurds. they speak kurdish and turkish. both.

@srd895

7 ай бұрын

In Gaziantep? No. Gaziantep is %90 Turkish. And you cant found anyone speaks Greek because of population change in 1930 (i dont remember date truly). Turks in Greece was moved to Turkey and Greeks in Turkey moved to Greece that is why you cant find any citys or villages that speaks Greeks and this video adds a lot of blue dots and that is very false. Some places like north of the Konya has Kurdish population and can found Kurdish speakers but another places are false or really small minorities. And i say ethnicity and language is diffrent things because of asimillation. They are small minorities they live with 70 million Turkish peoples of course they will asimilate and use Turkish languages. My fathers grandmother side was Turks that exiled from crete but they speaked greek and now even my father just know 2-3 words and i dont know any word. This is same in Germany too. Now Turks that born in Germany doesnt even know Turkish because they are living in country that doesnt speak Turkish. And this guy thought some ethnically Kurdish minorities are still speaking Kurdish or some small Greeks still speaking Greek. @@hiiamfrog​

@hiiamfrog

7 ай бұрын

@@srd895 the reason kurds speak turkish is they banned kurdish in the country back in the day. no teaching kurdish no listening to kurdish no talking kurdish. nowadays most of them already forgot their language so they speak turkish or turkish mixed with kurdish. so that’s how they learned turkish they’re forced to learn it.

@srd895

7 ай бұрын

Speaking, listenin, talking Kurdish isnt forbidden just state schools dont teach Kurdish language, you dont even know what is forbidden what is not. And most of them arent forgot their language. And you are talking about south-eastern anatolian Kurds (still you are wrong) but i said "your map is wrong" because of another places like blue dots in Bursa or Sinop. Only wrong thing in south eastern parts is western parts of the south eastern Anatolia like Gaziantep. @@hiiamfrog

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@ElHeraldoHispano

7 ай бұрын

¿Es esto un dialecto o habla de transición del asturleonés? Es muy parecido al castellano.

@XuanMelendez

7 ай бұрын

@@ElHeraldoHispano verdá, ye asturllionés, pero esta versiún comuna ye construyíua por mín, reunieri lo mas auténticu de tolles fables, si saliéu que ye una mosáica.

@ElHeraldoHispano

7 ай бұрын

@@XuanMelendez ¿Así que sería algo así como una "koiné" de todos los dialectos asturleoneses? Me gusta esa idea. Además, así también podría ser estandarizado y oficializado en España.

@XuanMelendez

7 ай бұрын

@@ElHeraldoHispano assina ye. El griéu modernu provién del koiné qu'apaeciéu nos 350 - 300 años antes de Cristu. Fai dous años dimpuós del aprendiçaxi del asturianu estándar pensari que nun sirvi más de lo que ser un dialéutu del castellanu, e comencéi'l trabayu dela restructuriçaciún. Nestis díes cumplen-si dous años. Pouco a pouco descuvría-si-mín a mín nouvo e nuovo. La mía idea iniciala yera l'eguala ca agora: crear la llingua única. Tomo lo más auténtico e lo más asturllionés de cad'ún dialéutu pa construyir lo que sirva realmenti pa clamá-si la "llingua". Nos momentos tomo partines del ucitanu: construiciún "cad'ún, cad'una" ye estrayíua d'élli, tanto cumo la terminaciún "-ciún" parcialmenti (ellí, nel ucitanu, suona "-ciú"). Tienen bastanti lliaciúns culturales. Sí, too esto faigo pa que la llingua resurda-si, nun pueo deixar l'utro. Quiero que la nouva variedá qu'escrevo estienda-si per tolles partes dela tierra asturllionesa. Vos seredes sorprendíos, pero soi de Russia😂

@ElHeraldoHispano

7 ай бұрын

@@XuanMelendez ¿De Rusia? Vaya... ¿Y qué te hizo querer aprender y unificar el asturleonés? ¿Vives en Asturias o en algún otro lugar donde se hable? Sobre lo de tomar elementos del occitano, también me parece una buena idea. El portugués tomó algunos elementos del provenzal, la lengua de los trovadores, durante la Edad Media. Dígrafos como "nh" o "lh" en portugués proceden del occitano.

How many dialects did the Greek language have in Anatolia?

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

In modern period: Demotic (close to the Standard Greek), Pontic Greek, Cappadocian Greek

@G-BogdanMMI

7 ай бұрын

@@CostasMelas I know those :) But were there others? I heard about Phrygian Greek.

@BIGOTTOMANEMPIRE343

7 ай бұрын

​@@G-BogdanMMI+1

Pov West Thrace speaks turkish :d

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

not Evros prefecture

Are all these languages categorized within the Anatolian branch of IE languages ??? Or are they just various languages of different family trees spoken in Anatolia ?

@mwittmann68

6 ай бұрын

Yes, mostly anatolian languages

@Soap_bubbles591

6 ай бұрын

@mwittmann68 wow, that's amazing such variety, thank you for the info

The Lycaonian language, as I looked, may be some dialect of Greek

Ты делаешь очень крутые видео можешь сделать видео про чеченцев и ингушей такое же видео

also, putting assyrian as aramaic? laz as zan?

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Laz is part of Zan along with the Mingrelian. Modern Assyrians speak Neo-Aramaic languages

How do you make these videos??? I wanna make my own fantasy world and then put some conlangs in there to see how they spread and evolve

First of all;Kurdish population in Osmaniye, Marash,Antiochia and Anteb is exaggerated. I am from this region and i am sure even Syrians are more numerous in the region right now. As for Corum, there are not even Kurds there. No one can find me a place where Kurdish is spoken in Corum. My friend,Kurdish population is scattered all over Turkey and even in North Cyprus so these maps are often inaccurate. For example, the region you marked in southern Ankara is a desert and very few Kurds live, but there are 1 million Kurds in Antalya and Izmir. You know what I mean?

@snowball5192

6 ай бұрын

Knk bu Kürtler Türk mü

@kapsu9534

5 ай бұрын

​@@snowball5192 farslı bir millet türk değil

@YaawwHeHe

5 ай бұрын

​@@snowball5192hayır

@YaawwHeHe

5 ай бұрын

Iç Anadolu'da 200-300 bin Kürt yaşamakta ve dediğin gibi Ankara dolayları nüfus seyrek olduğundan haritada çok büyük bir alanı bile kaplıyorsa aslında çok küçük bir sayıya tekabül edebiliyor bu

@aliklc1970

3 ай бұрын

Kürtler seyrek olarak sürülmüş anadoluya Osmanli yonetimine bas kaldiran asiretlerden teskiller osmanli surgun politikasi geregi yerlilerin %10 unu gecmeyecek sekilde kirac arazilere surgun edilmişlerdir

As a kurdish in turkey i must say map 2023 is kinda wrong, i'm kurdish but everyone speaks turkish in normal conversation, new generation doesn't speak kurdish like me. Only old people speaks kurdish in daily life those days. Just for information 🙏

@kimkardashiansdaddy2744

7 ай бұрын

same goes for greeks in turkey, the data in 2023 is so wrong

@Yusufsnmz07

7 ай бұрын

You should learn your own language

@user-gd3dx4pd8q

6 ай бұрын

Главное что вы считаете себя курдом. Вы не должны потерять свои корни. Привет из Армении

@xaniedits4088

6 ай бұрын

Because of asimilation

Historically Gaziantep has no native Kurdish population. All Kurdish residents of Gaziantep are recent immigrants/settlers from eastern provinces. Gaziantep was a 90% Turkish city. Actually, the river Euphrates is a natural border between Turkish and Kurdish speakers and none of Kurds residing in the west of the river are native. Kurdish presence in inner Anatolia, around Ankara and Konya date back to 1800s

@misiniovdoze

6 ай бұрын

so what exactly is the criteria for being native? everyone agrees that turks are settlers from central asia. then that disproves your 'turkish antep city' claim

@ravenarj6

6 ай бұрын

While the Turks were in Mongolia, there was a Kurdish population in Antep, and the exiles of the Kurds to Konya and Ankara, that is, to central Anatolia, date back to the 15-16 centuries.

@nadirhikmetkuleli7335

6 ай бұрын

@@ravenarj6 Not true. Just a lie.

@nadirhikmetkuleli7335

6 ай бұрын

@@misiniovdoze Turks being settlers from Central Asia does not make Kurds native. Kurds are also settlers from Iran and Iraq. They are also not native and their settlement is even later than Turks.

@misiniovdoze

6 ай бұрын

@@nadirhikmetkuleli7335 so what is the point of calling kurds migrants? as if turks are native

it's not so accurate 1397 Giresun Karadeniz blacksea as already conquered by Turks. 1461 Trabzon was already Turkish province. Yes they spoke some greek but mostly Cepni-Turks.

@Youaregypsy

25 күн бұрын

Really? then how is it possible that thousands of pontic Greeks that still spoke Greek and were Greek were murdered by the Ottoman empire in the end of the Greco-Turkish war if it was a Turkish province since 1397??

@ibrahimturan28

25 күн бұрын

@@Youaregypsy bro. we are Not ottoman kayıTurk. We are çepniTurk Back in days in Sinop there were 15.000 people but only 3000 were greek or greek related. So who were those 12.000 people?😊 History doesn't lie but ignorant people does. Don't forget when Turks came some converted Islam but some christian. Turks who want to be a christian spoke latin or greek or Rumi. That is also the reason why dna are close to each other. In mubadele in 1924 or so christian Turk went to greece because of religion. KZread Karaman teyze, karaman aunt.

@ibrahimturan28

25 күн бұрын

@@Youaregypsy we lived together. Till english poisened both culture. Also in Giresun Turks and Rum worked in same shop.

@Youaregypsy

25 күн бұрын

@@ibrahimturan28 are ottoman Turks different from çepni Turks? I didn't know that the difference was so big.

@ibrahimturan28

25 күн бұрын

@@Youaregypsy Yes ottoman Turks are other branch and CepniTurks are other branch. also ottoman fought with other Turkish trib Karaman... example in Greece there are penelopGreek, minoansGreek, atticaGreek or athensGreek, ionianGreek (yunan) . same language but other tribs :)

Nice video man, it's sad to see how much Greek decreased

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you

ngl this is impossible to read with this many colors. I think it would be better to write the languages on the map also.

2:47 Long Live the Galatian Celts!

Is Subartu Gutian???

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

No but both belongs to the Caucasian-Zagros substrate

@user-xw8et4lr2j

7 ай бұрын

@@CostasMelas so what’s their relationship? Do they belong to the same language branch?

What sources did you use to make this map video?

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

See the earlier videos about the Greek Languages, Anatolian Languages etc. I have a list with the sources in the description section below the video

به من خیلی خوب

Byzantines getting their ass beat after 1071 and making an absolute clusterfuck of the situation straight-up ended millennium old Greek dominance in some decades.

Great video. Zaza language is missing. I think it was shown as part of Kurdish, normally it is a separate Iranian language.

@CostasMelas

3 ай бұрын

Thank you. You're right. I included it in Kurdish

Thank you for video. Next time Caucasian region please.

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

You're welcome:)

@user-gd3dx4pd8q

6 ай бұрын

​@@CostasMelasЗакавказье

Costas - as usual magnificent work. Humbly ... only some minor observations the main one being the too broad a stripe afforded to Latin during the Roman period. Latin was in no way of similar 'weight' to Greek at any point in Anatolia. The map should essentially be in Greek blue rather than share the honours with Latin. I would venture a similar observation with the weight given to Armenian from 658 with respect to migrations into Anatolia proper.

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for the helpful feedback

Well istanbul was konstaninopel, new york was new amsterdam. Half of us was french louisiana and spanish . Thats how it goes guys! Now im turkish but im talking in english to you guys, i was forced to learn english, what shall i do? Throw me into the black sea?

now that i think about it. as a colorblind person, some shades of colors are hard to identify which is to which in these mapping videos

@Ja-jq7pc

7 ай бұрын

No one cares, get better

@CostasMelas

7 ай бұрын

There is the pattern selection but it is more confusing

@xXxSkyViperxXx

7 ай бұрын

@@CostasMelas what if the names had small numbers that were overlayed over the colors

@user-gd3dx4pd8q

6 ай бұрын

Они не считали себя греками. Они называли себя ромеи

Man. Thats a lot of diversity. So much for racial purity.

avoiding which part of cyprus is turkish before north and south and instead making it all “turkish minority”? very lazy.

A bit too fast

Later these people were turkified , started to hate their ancient relatives: Greeks and Armenians, and they consider themselves as brothers of Uyghurs and Kazakhs. Wonder what they feel looking at the mirror and finding out they look like more Armenian and Greek but not Uyghurs and Kazakhs

@tanhukim9963

6 ай бұрын

Yunanlılarda (Greek) bile IE oranı %15😂. Ermenilerde ( Armenians) hiç yok %0

@saropapikyan9048

6 ай бұрын

@@tanhukim9963 Don't speak Ural-Altayic languages. Sorry

@bythemoonlight

6 ай бұрын

@@saropapikyan9048 do not be sad. not everyone can speak the Anunnaki Language because it does not spread around the world like a virus. the language of noble lords (Kengir) is difficult. does not forcibly assimilate others. it cannot be learned later. anyone who says "i learned" is lying. but don't worry, google translate will do this for you. even though it may make small mistakes, its ok. for example, i use this for languages ​​of indian origin.

@bythemoonlight

6 ай бұрын

@@tanhukim9963 çünkü ie diye bir ırk "yok" neredeyse dünyayı asimile etmiş hint kökenli bir dildir ie. asimile edilmiş bin çeşit ırk vardır içinde. ama bunların ilk ataları söyledikleri gibi anadolu dan değil, hindistan dan hint-çingene ırkıdır. bu asimile dili konuşan ırkçılar(!?)aynaya baktıklarında şunu söylemeliler "atalarım hint-çingenelere mi yoksa asimile ettiğim "ölü dil" diye sınıflandırdığımız ama ural altaik konuşan hurri-hattilere mi benziyorum?"

@Live_goy_reaction

6 ай бұрын

​@@tanhukim9963gypsy language

The greek population of anatolia after 18th century is far too exaggerated on this map

very inaccurate, as a former resident of the southern part of hatay it is most certainly majority turkish! there are arabic minorities, but the majority is definetly turkish. when maps do this i am instantly suspicious of the rest of the map.

@flyingfoamtv2169

Ай бұрын

the texture used on it indicates a fifty fifty split

In 1900 in stanbul there were no Greek majority. It looks really funny.

@panos_gr_77_

6 ай бұрын

They don't disappear they just became Muslims or killed

The places where Kurds live today are exaggerated. Kurds did not actually spread over such a wide area and migrated to the area where they spread later. Only 1/3 of the so-called "Kurdistan" lands they claim are real Kurdish regions, they migrated to everywhere else. Kurds reproduce quickly, their fertility rate is 2-3 times higher than that of Turks.Every Kurd has at least 6 children. They have an average of 9-10 children, and they usually migrate to the west. Kurds living in Central Anatolia migrated there later. Kurds who migrate to cities are generally construction workers. Some people improve themselves in this business and become contractors or establish a construction-related company.There are local Kurdish chiefs in the southeastern provinces and they are very rich. They were feudal in nature until the republic, and in some places they still are.

Where did the Armenians go?

@TSGC16

7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@TheBobVova

7 ай бұрын

You are banned in Turkiye 🤫

@mehmetbenli8058

7 ай бұрын

Yunanlılar nereye gittiyse oraya anakaralarıma sürgün edildiler

@aliklc1970

7 ай бұрын

Kurdized or genocide

@DoofyGilmore1299

7 ай бұрын

Gone, reduced to atoms

Laz?

@abdullahsartas5948

7 ай бұрын

zan yazan yer

There was any greek language in Anatolian history, all this extinct indo european languages and caucasus languages were native to Anatolian peninsula. Aksi there is not any evidence about kalaş language was Anatolian. They were descanders of hattie people belongs to asia

Anatolia is Europe and no one can change my mind about it.

@magicalgrass3131

7 ай бұрын

Anatolia definetly is more like Europe than Asia but the thing is there is actually no Europe or Asia. They're the same continent.

@naitor2594

6 ай бұрын

turks will never be european, cope

@mustafa_karaca

2 ай бұрын

@@magicalgrass3131 ancient name of Anatolia is Asia. Even Greeks called it Asia. Turks spread the name Anatolia

@magicalgrass3131

2 ай бұрын

@@mustafa_karaca Anadolu hâlen Yunanların elinde olsa tüm dünya kolayca Avrupa sayardı Anadolu'yu

Greeks are over-represented in Thrace during the Ottoman period up to WW1 and Bulgarians are under-represented.