Interesting that you comment on the lightness of the safari compared to the pilot.. since your own measurements suggest the are the same weight

@GoldspotPens

2 жыл бұрын

Typo - Pilot Metro weight - 24g

@steffymuze

Жыл бұрын

​@Goldspot Pens consider pinning this for us newbies who are wondering the same thing? 😊 fantastic video! I'm probably going to get both to compare even though I'm leaning towards Lamy rn due to the weight 😅 (plus I read Safaris are made using Lego brick plastic so, yeah)

@totallylegit2068

5 ай бұрын

@@steffymuzewhat did you end up getting?

@totallylegit2068

5 ай бұрын

@@steffymuzeright now im deep into the chinese pen rabbit hole cause i learned how to tune nibs, i like hongdians (non forest style) the most

I picked up the Lamy Safari first, then the woman I love gifted me a Metropolitan. I love all three of them

@wnJhntn

2 жыл бұрын

Bruh

@Ambicrush

2 жыл бұрын

Almost thought you were talking about wives

@pavneetsingh8600

2 жыл бұрын

You’re living the dream

@christinearmington

Жыл бұрын

❤🎉

@Sun-gs6hq

Жыл бұрын

Which pen is your favorite though?

The Metropolitan was my first fountain pen, and I love it! But... I own more Safaris and use them more often. Maybe it’ll the heft of the metal, but my two Metros feel like special occasion pens, while my Safaris feel like everyday-in-the-purse pens. If someone asked me which they should get, I think I’d ask them what they wanted the pen for. If they want a nice pen on their desk, Metro wins easily. If it’s for rougher use, the Safari.

I'd have to say metropolitan, but the TWSBI Eco has really been doing it for me lately.

@mereiriz

2 жыл бұрын

I’m planning to order my first fountain pen and after hours of research I decided on both of these precisely. I want to try the Pilot Metropolitan for its convenience but the Twsbi Eco is really appealing too.

I just got my first Metropolitan, and I enjoy it hugely. Very serviceable, starts every time, is consistent and smooth on my 32# paper (and in a cheap little journal, too), the fine nib lays down a very precise line, and it feels good in the hand. For the price, I would recommend it to everyone. I hope I just did...

Always and forever the Lamy Safari. It's what I use for my 5th-grade students when I teach cursive because of the grip, balance, and comfort. Its weight is perfect for young hands that need to build small motor skills and stamina, is funky enough looking for a kid to love it, and unique enough for the pen to stand out from others. I had one student who told me his father tried to steal his Lamy Safari once because he loved the feel of it and my student demanded he give it back, "Or Ms. H will kill me when we do cursive!" :D (Dad emailed me to ask where I got it so he could order his own and ended up with an AL Star.) The ink cartridges are a great no fuss/no mess feature in the classroom. I love my Pilot Fude for drawing, but my everyday work horse will always be a Lamy Safari.

@christadicken296

2 жыл бұрын

I know this comment was left months ago, but I'm just running across it. I teach 4th grade and have been reading about how fountain pens can be helpful with students who have "messy" handwriting. How do you handle fountain pens class-wide? Do you buy each student his/her own? (That's a bit pricey, but I'm guessing it might make a good Donor's Choose project.) Do they keep them after they leave your class, or do you reuse them from year to year? I'd love to try this with a few of my students who are struggling with those nasty scratchy pencils.

Lamy Safari, all the way but both are good pens.

@Cortesevasive

3 жыл бұрын

It's treason then

@Taib89

3 жыл бұрын

I did not expect you to betray us, Larry!

@Cortesevasive

3 жыл бұрын

@ 30lamy lol , get a decent pilot lol

@gesa5187

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cortesevasive There is no decent one lol

@sithlord2422

3 жыл бұрын

Heyyyy Larry here!!!!

I’ve reviewed both of these pens on my channel! I prefer the Safari, and have a few issues with the design of the Metro, but I still think it’s a good pen. On my metropolitan review, people were pretty quick to defend it. I personally thought I would hate the Safari until I held it in my hand. Such a simple design, but totally worth the price!

@arapaimagold8088

2 жыл бұрын

Why buy Metro when we can get the same nib on Kakuno?

Metro is the boss of silky writing, I luv it..

Your reviews never disappoint, Otto. If they don’t get me to pull the trigger on buying the pen reviewed, it always informs my future buying considerations in a very consequential way. Keep up the good work and, as always, looking forward to your future reviews.

TEAM METROPOLITAN, it fits better to me. I really like the 1.0 crisp stub.

I started out with a Metropolitan, but I soon discovered the Safari. I have at least 10 of each, and I love them both, and I use them both nearly everyday. That said, I will probably never buy another one of either because I’m mostly buying more expensive pens at this stage of my hobby, and I do have a lot of them. I tend to gift them a Lot. I lean (barely) toward the Safari only because of the nibs. I think Lamy is a little better quality (barely), and they’re widely available. They’re also super easy to change. I don’t think you can be disappointed in either, especially if you’re on a tight budget. Thanks for the video.

I own 3 Lamys and two Metros. Metro is my sentimental favorite, though Lamy may be better all-round.

Great review, thanks for sharing. Perhaps the best review I have seen related to the comparison of these pens. In order to have my own experience l bought both models. And I love them. Best regards.

Lamy Safari is what I use in my journaling, and I use the Pilot Metropolitan as my everyday writer for notes while sitting in my chair in the livingroom.

Metros for me....can't beat that fine line. I've replaced one of my metros with an EF from pilot penmanship to go even finer.

I like the matte look of new Lamy Safari.

No brainer, Safari every time

A Fine nib Metro was my first, and I now also own a Metro with a Stub I received as a gift. I thoroughly love them both. I just recently got an Eco EF and it seems great. Filling and cleaning is very satisfying, though I digress. I am addicted now, and have many more plans for pens and writing adventures beyond my journaling and current attempt at writing a novel. Thank you for the great content as always.

I have and own them both, and both are great starter pens as well as pens that often put their expensive brothers to shame. But my heart belongs to the Metropolitan, for she is the one who wore the first stub nib I have ever had. A good friend of mine gifted it to me and I have loved every minute I have spent with it.

Metropolitan is the one for me. With the metropolitan you are getting more pen for the money and they look and perform more than what they cost. Some might have problems with the grip section but its still a great pen.

Team Metro. I have multiple Safaris but the nibs tend to be hit or miss for me. Metropolitans are pretty much perfect every time.

@LazyStory

3 жыл бұрын

" hit or miss"? ... meaning what? You do not like the colours, the lack of artwork on the nib or...? All Lamy nibs are tested. My only "problem" is, I can never choose nib-size..... but I have the same when using finliners :D

@arielchapman3721

3 жыл бұрын

@@LazyStory hit or miss meaning that despite the fact that Lamy tests at the factory, I think the Pilot metro writing experience is better and more reliable. I’ve gotten several Lamy nibs over time that were actually terrible out of the box. I have yet to experience that with pilot. I was really just talking about QC.

@naomiartisan

3 жыл бұрын

I have a pilot kakuno instead and it immediately write so smoothly. But the lamy I got the nib is so scratchy and it can't write immediately like pilot. Might be unlucky with the lamy nibs.

Definitely team Metropolitan! The nibs are superior and while Lamy has more choices, the italic on the Pilot metro is sublime. The Lamy safari feels too plasticy and the nibs are very inconsistent. All my pilot metros write amazing and only a few of my safaris are reliable writers. Also the new colors are boring. I like the AL Star or LX models much better.

@lisasiregar

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. I dont even mind the plastic body but Safari nibs are 💀 actually had to return it once bc it was scratchy

@MrsinTN

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! 👍🏻

@rztour

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. My experience has been quite good with my Lamy medium nib. Smooth and a nice medium line. One the other hand, the comment about its “feel” being plasticy is an excellent one. While my regular 3 finger grip fits perfectly on my Safari, it sure lets you know it’s just plastic.

@reghunathnair4094

3 жыл бұрын

Yes same here

@henrysscrollsawworks6917

2 жыл бұрын

I've thought of turning one I can get kits from pen state industries there start at about 37.00 dollars but they have some cheaper ???what are your thoughts the psi Penns come with a #6tip

I am a big fan of “Pilot” products. I buy “Plumix” here in Poland and “Penmanship” in China and swap the nibs. (Plumix for stub nibs, black Penmanship for the look.) Now I’m waiting for my first Metro. Never thought to buy one, but found this black&white houndstooth version with M nib on sale and decided to own for future reference ;) I also have my very old yellow Safari (also M). Didn’t use it for years, but -> -> Those “wet” M nibs are better for some inks that are too bright for F nibs, for example Ferris Wheel Press “Lady Rose”. Ps. For LAMY Safari & poetry lovers I recommend white version with Wislawa Szymborska signature. I saw it in good price here in Poland recently.

Pilot metropolitan hands down. I have one lamy safari, it's nice and smooth but I love the finest smooth nib on Japanese fountain pen. Bought 5 of metropolitan., still love them after 5 years

I have both. I rotate my pens monthly, with each pen with a different ink color. It's easier to distinguish the months in my bullet journal that way. Each has their up and downs. I like the Lamy's triangular grip and I like how the pilot feels in my hand. I prefer the italicized nub of the pilot over the lamy because it's smaller when writing in my 1917.

@STScott-qo4pw

3 жыл бұрын

Curious: what is a "1917"?

@Loufi303

3 жыл бұрын

@@STScott-qo4pw leuchtturm 1917 notebooks. (happen to be my favorites, too. Numbered pages, two pagelints, no ghosting, etc)

@virtual_self

Жыл бұрын

@@STScott-qo4pw notebook

I started with the Metro and now have four. Love them. Then I tried Lamy and have three. Both are terrific. Metro wins with value... Safari wins with style and "coolness!"

I just saw this. My first pen was a Pilot Metropolitan! I have to give it credit - its what got me hooked on fountain pens! I do have a Lamy Al-Star which I also love and the nib selection is a huge factor. I do wish pilot would release their nibs separately. But both pens are a staple for me. The PM stole my heart first though. Will never let either pen out of my collection! ❤️❤️❤️

I write small so the Pilot Metropolitan fine nib is perfect. I have also found that the Pilot fine nib writes smoother and has better ink flow than my Safari with a extra fine nib. Have a great day Tom.

I love the Safari but I always feel like the ink dries out very fast.

Your explanation is very clear and informative

Very helpful. Thank you, sir!

Put an EF nib on the Metro Polish it with 0.3 micron paper Never look back ....

@houghwhite411

3 жыл бұрын

Is it as nice as F? I ruined my EF so I can't try it anytime soon

My first fountain was a pilot metropolitan (gifted) my 2nd was a safari (bought). The metro got tossed away at some point, I found it scratchy as heck and wasn't a fan although intrigued. I bought a All Black Safari about 4yrs ago and carry it almost daily

So I buy a pen to write. I don't get into collecting the same thing over and over just because it is a different color. I have a large collection of pens that includes Pilot and Lamy. I find the Japanese pens to be superior in all categories. I have a number of their custom and heritage pens and use them daily. I don't use my metro or safari much anymore but they are both good pens. I would recommend a metro as a starter pen.

I have a metro. Would love to pick up a safari to try it. Love my metro. Writes well with the Noodler 54th Massachusetts ink.

One thing going for Pilot is that in some markets it is available in international standard cartridge/converter configuration.

Thank you! I will always have a soft spot for the Safari but I would prefer the matte versions as the body does not get scratched up like the glossy ones. The Metro is great, as it comes with a metal body, convertor and has a proper fine nib. The fine nib is better than the Safari whose Medium and Fine are not much different. But the section of the Metro is a tad small for me.

I have and like both!! I use my safari, like you for daily use.

I love the Metropolitan. It has never failed me, and the fine point is great. Great review

I don’t like the look of the Safari, so its Metropolitan for me. I own three Metros. These are good pocket pens for daily carry (receipts, quick notes, etc.) I do have a Lamy Studio and a Lamy 2000; both of which are excellent.

@houghwhite411

3 жыл бұрын

The laquer of my metropolitan is falling off. Now it looks and feels bad in my hand lol. Wish I had bought pen sleeve from a while ago

@ciannacoleman5125

3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree with you about the look of the Safari, plus if I am getting a fountain pen I prefer it to have minimal amounts of plastic. I have two Jinhao 450s and am planning on getting the Metropolitan in both the stub and fine since it looks like one of the best “budget” FPs and I would rather get several reliable writers and splurge on ink than immediately splurge on pens

@hx5525

7 ай бұрын

⁠@@houghwhite411How long did u use it for before it started flaking? Rough use?

@houghwhite411

7 ай бұрын

@@hx5525 if not sleeving it up in pants pocket without any other hard object counts as rough use… Mine fell off in 4 months It'll probably hold up better if treated with more respect

A Lamy Safari fountain pen with it's _"tripod grip"_ is great to teach people - _adults and children_ - to hold the pen the correct way! I know fountains are great for writing, and writing style - mostly- improves. However, sometimes a ball point/roller ball pen is a must! There is now a ball point/roller ball pen that uses a converter and uses fountain pen ink, *The Best of both worlds* _(not Star Trek)!_

Glass pen, metal-nibbled dip, goose quills. My only concession to modernity was my inherited beloved Parker 51. Now I live for my Metropolitan fine nib! Would still like to try a lamy left-handed nib someday.

Metropolitan, for me. Thank you for your videos. They are very helpful. BLESSINGS

Thanks dear , and i wish you all the best .

The Metro was my first fountain pen; I bought it about a year ago. I'm hooked! Since then I've bought a Conklin All-American (I'm a paramedic, so I had to get one of the Courage special editions), and I've just bought a TWSBI 580 for everyday use. My Metro is relegated to backup because the fine is too fine for my liking.

I have both but I seem to grab the Lamy Safari and then AlStar more often because the nibs are easier to write with, and the pen is larger to hold.

I think buying a Faber Castell Loom instead is a better option. This pen is criminally underrated.

@sebastiaan1483

3 жыл бұрын

It's also twice as expensive here. Seems like a nice pen to me though, lots of good reviews.

@jakub5520

3 жыл бұрын

@@sebastiaan1483 yes but it's worth much more money in my opinion. I' ve been using mine for 3 years and it has never failed me, many people call it the best steel nib on the market

@Fake_account_001

3 жыл бұрын

I bought a Loom F a month ago. I write only with that (with Diamine ink)

I may be biased since my first pen was the metro, but my second one was the safari, and I really didn't like the safari. It was too light and the pen was really a nail.

Lamy Safari because of the color range, nib options and more pleasant writing experience.

I began my fountain pen journey with a Waterman Phileas and vintage Esterbrook. The Metropolitan and Safari came 30 yrs later (LOL)

Great video which one drys out because it hasn't been used in the weekend 😀

Bel canale complimenti! !!!! Lamy Safari per sempre!!!!!! Un oggetto perfetto non migliorabile. Saluti da Roma.

Both are excellent.

Lamy wins for me, if I were to buy one of the two. More affordable, from what I've seen online. If I got a Parker fountain pen, I would probably get the Jotter..

I love my metro as a desk pen. If I looked hard enough to find a real complaint, it would be the small ink volume. And that's just depending on personal preference and how much you write. I love their fine nibs. So smooth. My only complaint is that band in the middle. lol Even the ones that are the same color. To me, it just disrupts the sleekness of the pen. I'd rather see the whole pen in a print design or solid color, instead of just that band. I've never tried a Lamy to be honest. Having to buy the converter separately is just a turn off for me.

The Lamy writes well, however the plastic body is kind of lacks any eye appeal> The metropolitan has different nib sizing & I find writes wetter even with a fine nib. I will definitely purchase another metropolitan in a fun colour & design.

Safari wins for me, because I'm generally not a fan of heavy pens. The range of replaceable nibs is also a very nice touch. I try not to be too brand loyal, because it's a sure way of getting stung. But if I were to pick one brand where it's hard to go too wrong, it would probably be Lamy.

The most important consideration besides price in this comparison is the nib selection. If you are at all interested in the quality of the nib, you have to choose the Metropolitan. Japanese nibs are superior, especially in F and EF. The finer side of the spectrum is owned by the Japanese, because their writing characters demand it. I love my Metropolitans for their writing accuracy. The Metro is more pen than you are paying for. It is not only worth it's own price, it is worth the Safari's price.

Have both but prefer the Lamy.

i'm a classic one..thanks for a very honest review❤

Loving the new safaris! Although 2020s were something else!

I bought the first Safari 1986. Last year, I got a crack in the hood. I wrote to Lamy and asked about how long they expected it to last. They were so impressed of almost 35 years of daily use, so they sent me a new pen!! But, since I'm a collector, I also have the Metro. Because it's metal, it feels a little bit more solid to write with. So, I would say 55-45 to the Metro. But the Safari is more than very good!! Also nice with all the colors. Metro is not there yet.

Safari! Lots of colour options. Wide variety of nibs that are a cinch to swap.

@voltgaming2213

3 жыл бұрын

Pilot better engineering but Lamy goes hard too

I have both and i cannot for the love of god figure out which writes better. Both are really good. I use the lamy more because its lighter and has that fauceted grip which i love. But i pick up the metro and within seconds it feels just as great as the lamy.

I've been looking at some from hobby lobby or office Depot hobby lobby also has refillable tubes

Lamy Safari. They write better, look better, are reliable, have a wider choice, better converters, and feel good in the hand.

Oof. I’m team both? I have four metros, one safari, one vista, and two al-stars. So... yeah. The recent safari colors haven’t really grabbed me, but 2021 looks interesting. You definitely highlighted all the right points. Personal experience: the metro feels heavier, and the grip on the safaris is a little nicer for me (longer grip, no step). Then again, I like the medium nib on my metros very much. So it’s a toss up :D

LAMY for sure. It makes desk job less depressing.

Where did you get the Savannah Green Lamy from ?

I think I prefer the Lamy steel nibs. I didn’t start my fountain pen journey with Lamy, or Pilot Metro, I started with Twsbi and then jumped right to gold nibs. I got my first Lamy as a gift from my boss for Xmas a few year later and was surprised at how much I love the nib. I just recently got a Pilot Metropolitan with a 1.0 stub nib and that pen is pretty impressive as well. You don’t need to spend a ton of money to get a great pen!

I want a (matte) Safari body with a Metro fine nib. 😏 The LAMY Safari is my first love for fountain pens, but I only like the matte ones. I never cared for the look of the Pilot Metropolitan but absolutely love the Pilot Prera which has a similar nib. (I have 9 solid-color Prera FP's and 7 clear ones.)

I've got a Safari as well as a Pilot Prera (same nib as the Metropolitan), and the Pilot writes significantly better. The Safari (medium nib) for me lays down less ink at the beginning of a letter, and about halfway through, the line gets heavier. You can see it in this video with the writing sample at 5:56, and even the Lamy writing sample at JetPens, and I've seen it in other YT writing sample vids. None of that happens with the Pilot, in my very limited experience. I do still like the feel and weight and look of the Safari and use it regularly at work, and will double down on flushing the nib and feed when this cartridge empties in case that helps. But I am definitely team Pilot for new fountain pen enthusiasts who just want something that writes perfectly without fiddling.

I like the green of the Lamy Safari, I offered a Pilot Metropolitan to a friend but I don't own one ...

I have many Lamy Safaris and Al Star with cartriges, in my region (Mexico) there aren't any Lamy converters and they're expensive (40usd each), I want to try with fancy inks like Namiki ones or Montblanc. I currently have two montblanc pens, one rollerball/fineliner and one ballpoint, but currently I don't have 700usd to spend on another Montblanc so I think I will try the Metropolitan, and began to save to buy a nice MB Starwalker Urban fountain pen.

I would say the Lamy al-star is a better option/version of the Lamy Safari. And can be found for a similar price in the UK

You have wonderful voice!

@GoldspotPens

3 жыл бұрын

Thank ya kindly. :-)

I like my Metro, but need to get the twist converter. Just my preference. I wish the Metro had nib options since the medium nib is too fine for my writing style. It's a weighty pen as well. I need to purchase a Safari in the near future.

@mahatisekar7149

3 жыл бұрын

Buy a Pilot compatible Wing Sung 698/659 broad nib, or swap a broad nib from a Pilot 78G/78G+

@LisePlansandJournals

Жыл бұрын

There’s a 1.1 nib

With all due respect to the Lamy company, but their nib is VERY far from this initial nib from Pilot (on which, in principle, you can stop the search).

I chose the met for my first fountain pen due to its more professional look, the lamy looks like a cheap disposable from the 70s.

I would like the Lamy Safari better but that the flats on the grip section enforce one particular writing angle. I thought I had a good three-point grip, but I may have been mistaken all these years.

Pilot Metropolitan swapped out for an EF nib. Rugged, versatile, metal, fine writing line, a great EDC pen.

I like them both

I think the Metro is the better pen, but I like both. My Metro from 2015 medium is very smooth compared with my 2022 Lamy medium which on some regular paper sounds like chalk, and by comparison lays down a lot of ink. I find my self using much less weight on the Metro, perhaps the Lamy will get better over time. I've got a Lamy Fine coming - will know more soon.

I think it mostly comes down to your grip preferences. I use four of my fingers so the Safari is very uncomfortable for me. Personally, I'm actually a bigger fan if the Diplomat Magnum. Not sure if I reccomend Twsbi for newcomers because they're filling mechanism is slightly more complex than the typical cartridge converter methods.

@mattsadventureswithart5764

2 жыл бұрын

I have a twsbi go, and would recommend it to anyone who wants a refillable fountain pen that holds a lot of ink, be they beginners or more seasoned users. I like how it feels, although it is very fat compared to other pens I own, and I like how it writes. Very easy to clean out and refill as required.

@steffymuze

Жыл бұрын

​@@mattsadventureswithart5764 I'm new to FPs and got a TWISBI Eco and a Diplomat Magnum after my Jinhao knockoffs and like all of them for different reasons so far 😊 still debating the various Lamys

@steffymuze

Жыл бұрын

I do really like my Magnum medium, the fine was scratchy on the one I've got, smoothing helps a little. Are they replaceable? I haven't tried.

I have multiples of both. Different size nibs and different colored pens. I am an emotional writer meaning the nib size and color of ink changes according to how I feel at the time, as well as, what I want to convey with my writing. I also like to use different colors of ink and coordinating barrel/cap for the month/season/holiday. Eg. January, light blue & aqua for snow & ice, then February pink and/or red for Valentines Day, and March, Kelly green for St. Patrick’s day, etc. throughout the year. I usually have three to five fountain pens inked up at any one time. Two of them will be a Lamy Safari and/or a Pilot Metropolitan along with my more expensive fountain pens. One of the pens and ink combos will not fit into that pattern. It will be the color of ink and fountain pen that I’m fascinated with at the moment. P.S. I have had good experiences with both.

Metro for me. A big decider was that I don't have, and do not wish to have, a traditional 3-point grip. Also the cheaper starting price of the metro and the included converter was exactly what I wanted because I have no interest in cartridges. I will give credit to the safari's ability to swap nibs though.

I wish to buy al lamy logo brushed.. Is it good for long time use? Which one is best in Lamy logo and Lamy Safari for comfort and pocket size? Pls suggest me?

@GoldspotPens

Жыл бұрын

We're fond of all Lamy's pens. Even their ABS plastic Safari pens are hearty for long-term use. In my opinion, the Safari is built for more ergonomic comfort than the Logo.

Team Metropolitan. I like the grip section better, it writes more smoothly and looks nicer.

Both pens are excellent no doubt.. Lamy safari is the smoothest one, nib is very smooth.. Metropolitan has the classic look and finer lines as expected from fine nib.

Lamy Safari for me!

you did not mention from which country it is made and price.

Lamy Safari with 1.1 stub nib.

Metropolitan (more exactly, Pilot MR Euro version). Because: 1) it's not triangular; 2) it's all-metal body; 3) in Euro version, it supports international standard cartridges or converters; 4) Pilot's F/EF nibs really write fine/extra-fine, no deception. If we compare to the Al-Star instead, the number 2 can be replaced with 2) Pilot MR is less expensive.

Which one is better? Platinum Plaisir or Lamy Safari? My handwrite is small

@liorkatz9739

3 жыл бұрын

Go with platinum, usually Japanese are much finer nibs so it will suit you best as your handwriting is small

@tarikdemir323

3 жыл бұрын

@@liorkatz9739 I bought Platinum and I love it. Thanks for your advice

I'm team pilot and team Lamy as each has a place in my collection. I'm in the UK so we have the MR series with standard international, but I do have some US Metro models. One thing though is these came with a CON-B squeeze converter, not a CON-20.

@virtual_self

Жыл бұрын

I'm eyeing both Lamy and Pilot, ordered a safari M but now after watching a lot of videos I think its too much for my taste and so now I'm looking for a "real" F since from what I see the F is almost the same as M in Lamy. The problem is that on Amazon it doesn't tell you if the Pilot MR comes with a converter or not. I'll probably return the Lamy and get the Metro instead because of the converter (of it comes with one) and also the nib size. Also, I ordered Lamy black ink, is there a better ink for the same price or for a little more money?

@bikkies

Жыл бұрын

@@virtual_self If you are buying in the UK then the Pilot MR, MR2 (Animal) and MR3 (Retro Pop) fountain pens will NOT include a converter. If buying in mainland EU then I'm not sure. If buying in the US then I think the Metropolitan family still comes with the CON-B "squeeze" converter. As for which inks to choose then, particularly if you're already thinking about a converter, any bottled ink designed for a fountain pen should be OK. Avoid pigmented inks, acrylic inks and, in general, inks sold for use with dip pens or "calligraphy" pens. Any of the standard inks from Lamy, Pilot, Waterman or - more old school - Parker Quink should do the job as a starter ink.

Metropolitan for me transitioning from a traditional pen. But I am loving the TWSBI ECO :)

For starter fountain pen I actually recommend Faber Castell Grip more.

@LazyStory

3 жыл бұрын

Have you tried the FC Loom? I have a FC Grip, but I do not like the dots, so I have never used my Grip. - I am hoping to sell or exchange the pen.

@FreyaVal

3 жыл бұрын

@@LazyStory I dont like FC Loom. i myself haven't used the fountain pen version of FC Grip but do have pencils of it for drawing.

Safar 💜 Metropolitan my Betty & Veronica 😍

The Safari was created for German school kids as we all learned to write cursive with a fountain pen back in the 80s. So no instruction or converter needed as there were only ink cartridges available back then for these fountain pens. Unless you had one with a built in small tank to fill from a bottle.