Labscope Triggers - Pros and Cons - featuring the ATS E-Scope Elite w/ Brandon Steckler
For those of you that are fortunate to know or know of Brandon Steckler, you know this little guy with a big heart and a big mind is a wonder. This Wonder Boy’s encouraging demeaner and drive for excellence is contagious.
I’m so excited that Brandon has another video! I was starting to get Brandrawals.
In this video, Brandon shares some valuable lessons in scope triggers with us. True to form, Brandon lays the foundation with the fundamentals then drives it home by demonstrating how you can apply the lesson to be more accurate and efficient in your diagnosis.
Not quite a Spoiler Alert! If you miss this video, the next time you’re trying to pinpoint the cause of a concern, you might miss the trace that will give you the diagnostic direction needed to do so.
Brandrawals: Brandon Steckler Withdrawals
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Awesome video. Thanks for taking the time to make and share it.
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
John , It’s our pleasure, thanks for watching!
Thank you Brandon. Good job. Have a blessed and safe week.
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, please do the same, Bill
Thanks for taking the time to show us some great information
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Stephen👍
Very well explained. Love these kinda videos. Always something to learn. Thanks for sharing Brandon 👍
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dylan, We’re glad it was helpful to you
Outstanding lesson and demonstration. Thanks!
Thank you for taking the time sir. Great job explaining as always
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Corey, my pleasure!
Another great video, Brandon, and it’s packed full of great info like always!
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks PJ!
Great video/explanation. Thanks TBT and Brandon Steckler for putting this together. Great feature I didn’t know the Escope had.
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
It’s our pleasure, Angel!👍
It's super nice to have someone of your caliber give us a lesson. I'm a knave. I have a Verus and a Vantage Pro. That board that u have that simulates the signals, wait, not simulate, but produce actual signals, allows u to sit down without the car running and test till your heart's content. I'm sure it's super expensive but what a fantastic tool! Hardly ever use my scopes except to play around. Need to become more familiar, and that demo system would b really sweet. Once again, thank u for taking the time to help us!!!
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill, Truth be told, once I truly realized the power of a scope, it’s rarley put to rest. Heck, I courtesy-test starting/charging systems with it on almost every car that comes to my bay. It’s my “EASY” test
Thank you so much for making this video. I think more videos like this will help improve the use of scopes in the shop. Sometimes scopes can be intimidating. This was a simple way of explaining the trigger function.
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was the goal...I’m glad it was well-recurved. We appreciate the feedback and wish to continue simplifying the lab scope implementation and take away what makes some so intimidated 👍
Great video thanks for sharing.
Great video!
I enjoyed this video thank you for sharing I’m looking forward to being in class at super Saturday
I like that scope 👍🏻👍🏻 very well explained
Great Job Brandon. Keep up the great work!
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Brian👍
Very informative as always Brandon, I still haven’t forgotten your challenge to get a relative compression done, hopefully very soon I’ll be able to do that 👍👍👍
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Great, Be sure to share your results with us...and be prepared to explain how the “squiggly-lines” got on the screen 👍😎👍
Great training as always Brandon!
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike!👍
Great video.
Awesome/Brilliant information and teaching really enjoyable to watch and learn would be excellent to keep those kind videos coming really appreciate the time to share those information as always thank you and cheeeeeers.
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Happy to do so, J. Thanks for the feedback👍
Great video thanks for sharing your knowledge
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
It’s my pleasure!
Fantastic thanks.
awesome Brandon thanks
Well Done !!
great video . don't you ever rest . have great sunday
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
I’m having too much fun 😆
great job Brandon thanks
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark!
Great stuff, thanks! 👍 I need one of those test boards! 😄
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick, The ETrainerJR can be purchased right here: www.automotivetestsolutions.com/etrainer-jr
Excellent
Great tech info thanks
Amazing info especially for me a diyer scope dope, trying to keep my friends and my own car running properly. Honorable mention to you Brandon, Keith, Eric O, Ivan, Paul, Jim, and several others who give critical information to us! There is no way the diyer will ever be able to keep up with the tech progression. Therefore you guys are not taking food out of any ones mouth, but putting it in many more mouths. If I can’t afford to take it to a shop, then I must fix it myself, if not, no work, no money, no security. We still have to purchase car parts and some diagnostic equipment. Remember there is enough for everyone’s need but not enough for everyone’s greed, love life, it’s a gift from Jehovah God, thanks!
Nice video. Set the trigger to 90% of the sweep. Set the horizontal resolution to display multiple occurrences of the pulse and it will become obvious in the pre-trigger portion of the sweep that pulses are dropping out. You made a brief reference to this in the beginning of the video. Thanks again and nice video!
AWWW YEAH THANKS 👍👍
Very good Brendon ,!ove the way you teach,got to find a way to bring you down to Montreal canada
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, I will go anywhere there is an interest, my friend. Feel free to reach out to me on Facebook messenger👍
nice explanation,bud. Mark here....Yea, i hardly dont use the trigger function on the 8 channel just strip chart mostly. Would be nice if connecting to the vehicles sensors were as easy as the simulation board :) Keep up the good work.
Thank you Brandon. You seem to have used the trigger in the " normal" mode. Does the e-scope feature other modes as well like single, auto, pulse ...?
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Juergen, The EScope from ATS only features the four trigger criteria mentioned in the video: -Channel -level -position -slope However, there is the ability to trigger individually on both dual-scopes. Truly two independently -triggered scopes on one screen, and at two different time-bases as well. It does not have a “single” or “repeat” trigger function, like Pico features
SUBSTANTIAL Trained by Techs Brandon Steckler Brilliant video thanks for sharing it with us Brandon Steckler Trained by Techs From Nick Ayivor from London England UK 🇬🇧
Thats why you dont set a trigger on a new pattern till you know you have something on the screen. Thanks for sharing.
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
That’s a great tactic. Want to definitely keep in mind, especially when away form is not appearing on the screen as want to definitely keep in mind, especially when a way for me is not appearing on the screen as intended anticipated 👍
Excellent video Brendan. With the Picoscope having single, auto , and repeat which would be best to avoid situations like you speak of? Thanks... Jay
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bud! A single-trigger will no longer update the scope screen after the trigger criteria has been achieved the first time. This is a very handy feature. “Auto” is when the scope software is left to decide when to trigger. This can vary between scopes. The blanket statement is: triggers have to be achieved for the scope to refresh. If not, the previous Acquisition will remains on the screen (even if the failure occurs)
@weldingjunkie
4 жыл бұрын
Brandon Steckler that makes sense. Would one be ok to leave it on auto when learning? I see it both ways a lot. I typically use auto
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
So long as you understand the limitations of the setting… You have nothing to worry about
Hi Brandon,Thanks for the informative video.I have been watching more of your videos and enjoy all of them.I currently have a Pico 4425 and am considering switching to an Escope.I am a one man shop and would value your opinion on a couple things.Would you recommend an 8 chanel? I noticed you have a 4? I see people talking about 4 cam sensor engines and the need for 8 chanels.It seems you could diagnose a correlation issue using in cylinder diagnostics? Would you recommend going with the ATS tablet? I am the only user and keep my equipment in good shape.Are the ats pressure transducers ok for use with fluids?I know the Pico is a good scope I am just feeling like I could get more use out of the Escope.Any help on these questions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Patrick
Very good Explanation of the trigger function. Is there a way to have the scope stop rolling mode if a certain criteria is met. Such as a cam signal dropping out or ignition coil trigger dropping out, or even an ignition coil current ramp dropping out... Using the trigger function that most modern scopes have, or using a pico.
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Great question, Regarding the ATS, there are several ways to capture data. It can be carried out on dual-scope (as the video describes), a stacked-scope (allows 4 individual scope displays on on screen) and Deep-record (which allows a single vertical reference amplitude for all signals. Can be manipulated like that if the PSD files from PICO). From what you seen is the dual-scope capture, a strip-chart/roll-mode allows the data to be plotted with no mind to trigger criteria. Therefore, it cannot be set to pause when a drop-out occurs. This best carried out in the deep-record screen. It stores a lot of data over a period of up to 10,000 seconds, in a circular-buffer (no dropped-data). When a fault is detected, the user has the ability to place a “strike” on the screen . This will be stored/superimposed on the capture for easy-hunting at the time the capture is analyzed. Instead of sorting through 10,000 seconds of data, on just hunts for the very-visible “strike”. Makes for quick diagnoses
@Autofixpals
4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonsteckler3417 the strike has to be manually placed on the fault so it can be caught the next time it occurs when using deep-record? Im still learning how to use the Pico and i don't have an ATS, But does the deep something or another (cant remember what its called on Pico) operate in a similar way on Pico?
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Auto Fix Pal , The “strike” is placed on the capture as you desire . It serves as an indicator to a point of your interest (like when you sense a “symptom”). I’m not sure how a deep-record functions on other scopes, sorry
@Autofixpals
4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonsteckler3417 Thank you Brandon. Much appreciated 👍👍👍
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
My pleasure😊
Thankyou for that info. Where can I buy one of those testing boards? That would make it easier while learning my Pico Scope!
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Here you go, Mike: www.automotivetestsolutions.com/etrainer-jr.html
Hey Brandon. Thanks for this, great information. I'm curious which model camera you are using and how happy you are with it.
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
I’ll let you know as soon as I get home, Pal👍
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
It’s a SONY HDR-CX405. It’s very light, records on an SD card in mp4 format and can run continuous-record for 115min. There are ports for USB/Mini-USB for transfer as well👍
Brandon thanks for the teachings! What is the name of that demo board and where can I purchase it, got to have one? Thanks 🙏🏾
Nice video helpful information. See you in a couple weeks in Tampa for the Honda class will you be touching on that scope at all. Pico or Automotive test Solutions scope? Recommendations
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick, I feature PICO, ATS and Snap-On tools in my WorldPAC HONDA Engine Technology Class. We will he discuss/demonstrating some techniques that will improve your efficiency/accuracy with not only HONDA/Acura but many vehicles in general. Both PICO and ATS are PC-based do they have som excellent capabilities that aren’t typically found with hand-held scopes. Both have excellent PROS and a few CONS. I own Snapon, ATS and PICO. Either way, you can’t go wrong
@randygould4109
4 жыл бұрын
Rick brandons honda class is great just make sure you take a lot of notes
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Randy Gould , Thank You
I think we all know that a qualified, experienced and detailed technician is hard to find, but finding one that also has incredible teaching skills like Brandon is harder than finding a mint conditioned low milage 1987 Yugo.
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Dave 😆👍👍👍 Thanks...(I think)!
Really like your videos. I am old school because I am old What do you think of fluke 97 auto and the 98 I have both Used 98 for the quick stuff and the 97 for 2 chan o2 sensor or 2o2 at the same time. 97 will not do 2 ..just wondering what your thought are
I am considering buying the Escope and was wondering where can I get good training on all the feathers like I see you had an injector and no attenuators
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Eric, thank you so much for responding. We at Trained By Techs can offer videos that reflect what you desire to see displayed. I offer private instruction/training regarding ATS products. Please feel free to reach out. bhsteckler@gmail.com
Good morning Brandon Hope your well from 🇬🇧
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Good morning, Stephen! And UK!! 🇬🇧🤞🇺🇸...#Strongertogether
This scope is very appealing in my search for a better scope. Functionality is much better than the pico.this investment is not cheap but unfortunately some techs love diagnostics and such a tool is a game changer? I enjoyed the video and know it is a great training video that serves as a selling feature. This video just put another ding against the pico. Do a video on specs and how sample rate, bandwidth and bits work if you want to seal the deal. Lol
I think I finally understand what a "slope" is.
Awesome video but where can I get that Demo board?
@TrainedbyTechs
2 жыл бұрын
It's available on automotive test solutions website
Where can I find a simulator board like the one in the video?
Muito bom
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
obrigado!!!
Good video. I wish there was more videos put out using the ATS elite scope. I own a pico and The ATS Elite 4 as well. I really love this ATS scope. I am more comfortable using my pico. Unless because if I’m not sure how to do something I can find thousands of videos to help me out. I know Automotive Test Solutions has put a lot of stuff on the website. And I’ve been to some of Bernie’s classes. But it would great to see every day technicians. Put more stuff out using the ATS scope
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
J, Thanks for your input. We at TBT are interested in creating videos based around the desires of our viewers. We will gladly curtail the videos using tools and techniques that your interested. Is there any subject/material you are interested in , in particular?
@jwoeltje6949
4 жыл бұрын
Brandon Steckler well one right off the top of my head. Is the COP on this scope And I know some of the newer coils are hard to pick up a secondary. But any set up tricks techniques. To make a capture would be a help for me on the ATS. Thank you for your response
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
J Woeltje , excellent...we will work on that 👍
@johnhnetkovsky8917
4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonsteckler3417 CURTAIL means to limit or stop.
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
John Hnetkovsky , Yes...to limit the content of a video to a viewer’s specific interests 😎
Just to be clear, the trigger issue (potential missed data) is an issue for any trigger mode, Auto, Normal, Single Screen, Repeat, ... the strip or run mode is equivalent to no trigger?? Is that right?
@alexmessina3383
4 жыл бұрын
Further point, what about using the Bugger in a Trigger mode to examine a drop out. Doesn't the Buffer capture with a high time base capture drop outs even in Auto mode??
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Excellent question, Yes, the “Measure/Deep-Record” tan of the scope allows for up to 10,000 seconds of data to be recorded ina circular buffer. This video was meant to display “trigger” and how it relates to scopes in general. The trigger sets limitations and thresholds. If those thresholds aren’t crossed, a waveform will not be drawn👍
Hi , i need some help with scope training or waveform analysis at the shop in Vineland , New Jersey. Would you consider the offer please?
Where can I buy the simulator ?
Hi Brandon can you tell me where i can purchase that demo board
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Sure-thing,Rich: www.automotivetestsolutions.com/etrainer-jr.html
the one thing I did not understand was you said if you put your trigger at 50% it would start drawing at the 1/2 way point but then you put a trigger at 90% and it filled the screen I though it would only draw the last 10% what did I miss?
I'd really love to purchase this demo board, can send the link. Thank you!
@weldingjunkie
4 жыл бұрын
hiep nguyen $1700
@hiepnguyen-ee4bj
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@weldingjunkie
4 жыл бұрын
Craig Tirrell yeah it def is but I’ll just use a car it’s easy enough
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
It’s our pleasure, Craig. Thank you👍
thats a good video, im 55 w 35 years of electronics experience automotive work ,mostly on Cadillac, semi trtired but just now getting into scopes, wished i had had them at dealerships.did you make that simulation board?
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Henry, thanks for watching. The simulation board was provided to me by Automotive Test Solutions and is called the ETrainerJR. www.automotivetestsolutions.com/etrainer-jr
nice video and explanation. i checked out the website. a bit pricey i should say. the trainer is cool but for that price a guy can buy a craigslist junker to play with. its obviously for a tech school type of situation. simulation is a good start but everyone remembers hands on in real life much better.
@brandonsteckler3417
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%...much easier to display on a board in my kitchen, though 😆