Polly Harvey was and will always be in a league of her own. There is no comparison.

@neroltecneops59

2 жыл бұрын

Amen so true, new material in 23

@izzydeadyet7336

2 ай бұрын

Yes sir! Courtney is so insecure, for good reason

It's funny how Courtney changed her views on material things and showing off. She's always name dropping, showing her designer shoes, how she knows Elton John, Lindsey Lohan, etc. I wish Hole could have stayed like 90s Hole. I wish I could stay in my 90s hole too. I miss my youth.

@jaredc422

4 жыл бұрын

Linday Mohegan LOL

PJ by far the superior artist here..

@patrick-tx1tr

2 жыл бұрын

but like…no the breeders.

@ninaandsimone3854

11 ай бұрын

i love PJ Harvey but that's just not true lol, Hole and L7 are at least equally good (i don't listen that much to the Breeders though)

Respect to PJ Harvey.

It's very nice to see Kristen Pfaff in that Hole footage. Very lovely to see all these musicians in one video

PJ is great and she is well within her rights to say I don't want to be lumped in with this

@1chienandalou

6 жыл бұрын

Dian Wilson that’s true, and we don’t even know what the question even was or how it was posed here.

RIP beautiful Kristen. I see you! You deserved so much better. We love you and we miss you 💖💔💖

@scottcharney1091

3 жыл бұрын

I find myself thinking about her a lot lately. Things just don't add up.

@ladygodiva4141

2 жыл бұрын

@@scottcharney1091 ‘I’m the one with no soul, one above and 2 below’ Always thought it was callous her changing the violet lyrics to that during 94.

@scottcharney1091

2 жыл бұрын

@@ladygodiva4141 That too!

PJ Harvey should NEVER be compared to Courtney Love. Polly is in a different league. She has an exceptionally beautiful voice, she is a multi instrumentalist, she writes subtle and complex music, and is more naturally beautiful, talented and cooler that Courtney Love will ever be.

@raphaelcostechareyre3486

3 жыл бұрын

Courtney love l'a dit à sa manière, mais c'est certain qu'elles n'ont pas le même style et je pense que courtney n'a jamais prétendu être une star du rock 😉 Elle est dans un autre style de jeu que PJ tout simplement

@NOWtheband

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@jmps8073

3 жыл бұрын

This is EXACTLY what I thought when I heard that comparison. LUdicrous

Courtney's so funny, and it was really funny when Eric tried not to laugh at what she said about PJ Harvey. Also, L7's such a badass band. So energetic onstage and hilarious when offstage. Especially what Donita said at 6:32 :D

@PremiummStatee

10 жыл бұрын

6:32... If only I saw this when it came out

PJ RULES!!!

Top 3 favorite bands 1.) L7 2.) Sonic Youth 3.) The Breeders

PJ Harvey is too good to be in this line up

@louduva9849

3 жыл бұрын

@@scottlandis7753 Please get help.

@neroltecneops59

2 жыл бұрын

@@louduva9849 1 year later, That truth hurt you!!!!

I need a gif of Eric's dissent into despair when Courtney opens her mouth about Peej.

@gabbyc3444

5 жыл бұрын

Lol!

@robertgodlewski8553

4 жыл бұрын

He laughed his ass off 😂🍻

@spartan876

4 жыл бұрын

Loool

God I love Kim Deal 4:07 And she is still this amazing

Courtney made a lot of digs about PJ Harvey around this time because she's insanely jealous of her talent and probably hated the fact that Kurt was a big fan of hers. Love how she turns her back to the crowd hen she's playing pretend guitar

@msantos6290

2 жыл бұрын

Well, Courtney was right about PJ not having experienced most of what she wrote in Dry/ROM, but I've always suspected that CL was a bit jealous of PJ because Kurt was such a fan and well, Dry/Rid of Me are great albums. Maybe jealousy is not the word, but competitiveness. Courtney is a PJ fan actually.

@kiaraamarabelmar7403

2 жыл бұрын

i dont think she was jealous just enjoyed talkin shit lol saying inflamatory shit all the time was her thing (still kinda is)

i love pslayharvey

l7 and pj rock.

Lol! Kim: "But girls can be slobs." Cut to L7 I love L7 but don't tell me that editing wasn't intentional. :P

@tita4ewaz

7 жыл бұрын

I love L7 and I love that it was totally intentional. Also, don't tell me L7 wouldn't approve this "message" and their only critique would be "you couldn't find a slobbier moment than that?!!"

@delhidelirium9091

6 жыл бұрын

Oh man, as I was about to read this comment I watch that transition and have the exact same thought ... then I proceed to read this .

Hole playing "Pennyroyal Tea" ALREADY, just a couple of months after it is released by Nirvana.

Check out Eric's face when Courtney says that PJ doesn't even know what she's talking about. it's like 'oh no here we go again, ground swallow me'

@belleofkilronan8565

7 жыл бұрын

takitogoestoNY Yeah, I noticed that. sad really.

@notmyrealname-1805

6 жыл бұрын

She actually has always loved pj Harvey and respected her notice how she kinda smiled when she said it it’s just her humour

My respect for Kim keeps getting higher.

The funny thing about that is that PJ Harvey was always just PJ Harvey. There is no greater expression of feminism than a woman just being who she is in spite of what people think she should be. Courtney love was always reaching for the next "something". She was never genuine. I guess that's the nature of addicts. If she had to try to bring someone else down to lift herself up, she would.

@philippboetcher9959

6 жыл бұрын

Courtney is 10.000% herself! Strong but also vulnerable in her voice at the same time, so unique! She could be sexual on stage without degrading herself by any means, fully be there and be in your face. But PJ Harvey is just a different artist, the music is in no way connected.

@1chienandalou

6 жыл бұрын

We don’t know if she had this perspective at the time, but I believe PJs career has been feminist. She has embodied being a musician as opposed to a female musician. Why shouldn’t a woman be considered a musician/scientist/astronaut as opposed to female musician/female scientist/female astronaut. Even if well intended, that categorization can end up undermining women.

@465marko

4 жыл бұрын

The nature of addicts? Whoa there! Don't insult drug addicts by associating them with Courtney Love. Her personality disorders are 100% her; nothing to do with addiction. Agree with you about PJ Harvey though. She's a real artist, the real deal.

@amandadavidson4330

3 жыл бұрын

@@465marko Thank you for this comment. I wholeheartedly agree with every word.

PJs "Sheela-Na-Gig" and L7s "Death Wish"

Man this sucks me right back to my last days of high school. These women made life bearable for me then. Nice upload, good onya.

While 23 is obviously a pivotal age, Courtney was in some states of arrested development throughout her 20's through her 40's and in various states of altered consciousness. For her to state PJ 'doesn't know what she's talking about' is really fucking rich coming from Courtney. Some people are 'feminists' in their own right and absolutely don't have to wear the label, fly the flag and advertise it. The art is all perspective and relative to the cause of feminism.

@paulmcduff1930

Жыл бұрын

I agree Courtney talks b,s, and probably was jelous of pj Harvey because she knew Kurt was going to ask her if she wanted to tour with nirvana, Kurt did ask her and PJ Harvey said no and apparently that made Kurt like her even more , it's mentioned in the book by Everett true, Nirvana the true story 👍

@crystalmonroy9111

Жыл бұрын

@@paulmcduff1930 yeah they said kurt had a crush on pj so it wouldnt shock me if courtney said that out of jealousy

@paulmcduff1930

Жыл бұрын

@@crystalmonroy9111 yes Courtney was also jelous of Kristen pfaff because Kurt Gav her a copy of his favourite book perfume by Patrick suskind and look what ended up happening to Kristen

@elisedelaserre9453

Жыл бұрын

@@paulmcduff1930 tbh it’s kinda weird how Kurt had a crush on like 100 different people while in a relationship…

@paulmcduff1930

Жыл бұрын

@@elisedelaserre9453 Kurt might have had a crush on Kristen but I would love to know who the hundreds of other people are ?

PJ and Courtney both are in a league of their own. They've both wrote critically acclaimed albums, that are amazing. They constantly reinvented themselves and have put so much effort in their work. I won't be surprised if there's ever any musicians that come out of the woodwork soon that say they were inspired by these female rockers from the 90s. These women could kick ass. They rocked just as hard as those grungy guys back then. Breeders, L7 and plenty of others included.

@philippboetcher9959

6 жыл бұрын

Spot on! I think Courtney really is a key figure in a new way women fronted bands. She is so unapologetic and full in your face, I think its great! I think she has a very unique and great voice, cuts right to the heart. PJ Harvey is good but Courtney is the reaaaaal deal! Amazing performer and songwriter as well! Just have to listen to recent band White Lung to be remembered how hugely influential Courtney still is! I think there is zero point comparing Nirvana and Hole anyway, very different bands and intent. Still don't get how PJ Harvey calls an album let England shake, what a crap title. Next shes going to kiss the Queens feet probably....

@1chienandalou

6 жыл бұрын

Are you guys serious? Have you not noticed PJ Harvey’s many many many excellent albums? And ongoing. Perhaps you could compare rid of me to something by hole, but that’s where it ends and musical genius continues. I’m sorry Courtney got hooked into drugs and all the other unfortunate stuff, but she simply does not go anywhere close to PJ Harvey in terms of her overall oeuvre

@1chienandalou

6 жыл бұрын

Philipp Boetcher you are an idiot. That’s one of the best albums of this Century. Kissing the Queen’s feet? 😂😂😂Wow... You are officially disqualified from making any comments about PJ Harvey from here on.

Kim Deal and PJ Harvey are really talented.

Kim's face is extremely beautiful!

I'd be more than happy to assist the ladies in L7 with that request!

Be awesome if L7 came back.

@jaiblue25

7 жыл бұрын

You got what we wanted :)

Merci pour l'upload ! 20 ans déjà...

Heard Kurt cobain name in it in the begining...love the crushed velvet, dark 1800s vibe the lady talking had at the start of this.

Tee hee, Polly's tone in the first clip ("I'm a musician"... etc) suggests that the interviewer was asking her stupid questions. She sounds quite annoyed.

@mindovermatter5781

4 жыл бұрын

It's not that, it was Polly very first interview for french tv and both her and the interviewer had been cornered to do this "women in rock" shit by the record label and the broadcasting channel.

The 90s were great

dude i swear i love donita sparks hahaha

erm....maybe that's why polly has had the endurance that she has because she refused to be lumped in with everyone? for the very same reason you used to get pissed at the press for lumping you with riot grrl.

pretty cool thanks for this.

I love how Courtney speaks about PJ harvey as a kid. I think PJ Harvey is extreme feminist even though she doesn´t say it. Its pretty obvious and Courtney is right about that but musically PJ Harvey exceeds everyone. Her 2011 album Let England Shake is considered her Magnus Opus almost 20 years after her debut. She continues to slay.

@almightyirony

3 жыл бұрын

Easily. PJ is a genius/goddess/genius!!! I absolutely adore her and all of her efforts. My personal favorite is 1998's Is This Desire. But her genius is beyond compare & her body of work is stellar.

@alessiomatzuzzi846

Жыл бұрын

I think would be good for Just once to listen to someone's words and take them for what they are rather then going for what "you Wish" they meant.

@jamiefrostick4059

4 ай бұрын

I dont think she is a feminist. She clearly takes exception to being pigeonholed even as a woman. The term feminist brings with it a whole series of connotations that I don't believe PJ Harvey subscribes to.

Also I do not see where is the harm in what she said about PJ

@guadalupeodiard9320

8 жыл бұрын

+cannas tamara I don't either, she says that PJ is too young to understand why claiming the feminist label has a significance. It makes sense

@kaitlinmojica9678

8 жыл бұрын

+María Guadalupe Odiard did she say "she isn't a songwriter "

@LBABYLiN

5 жыл бұрын

@@guadalupeodiard9320 too young? Google the ages lol

Breeders

I remember having seen this on TV when it was aired the first time

LOL thanks for uploading

L7 were total grits, a tour with Buzzov-en would have been perfect.

Were they all playing at the same venue the same day? If so, this would've been a kickass concert to go to!

@dummytree Thanks a bunch!

Interesting, thanks for the upload. BTW, Kim was really very attractive back in the day.

LUV YOU P.G HARVEY

@solongsuicide9

4 жыл бұрын

*PJ

Courtney Love was commenting on how Harvey's work is inherently feminine even if she doesn't consider herself a "feminist", by definition. She was joking. Unfortunately, Love has always been one of those people who have been misunderstood because she says true things in a crass way. Courtney Love has been vocal about being a huge PJ fan since 1993.

courtney speaking!!!

I always have a hard time hearing Courtney speak, I can't think of her different than impossible to talk to and I believe that is exactly how she wants to be seen

Riot Grrrls = followers of The Women of Rock - these Sirens, these Goddesses... it is a movement. Some of us listened to them and were INSPIRED by them. The Breeders get it totally. Courtney Love.. HOLE 'nother story. L7... they just don't get a fuck.

Where's Kathleen "kill" Hanna???

Muito louca ela

yeah I have heard Pretty On The Inside and I based my judgement mainly on that album. Our tastes just differ. I know Hole was about her 5th band and that she was better known than Kurt when they first met. But come on, the succes that Nirvana had was a gateway for every band from that area. And the fact that 'Pretty' sold more than Bleach doesn't say much, she already had a lot of connections. She was already an actress. He was stlil a hillbilly punk at that point.

Why have i never seen this? thank you.

oh god

kim deal's pretty

Harvey 🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝

Women aren't supposed to make these messes on stage anymore. They should all be like the paramour chick and sky Ferreira....I miss this kind of music. Evolution sucks.

@Garouix Yes, it is Angers 1993. It matches the audio.They played a festival there with Les Thugs (AFTER Hole!) and some other bands. There is an average audience recording of it, I don't know about a video. It's a good show, as most Hole shows were in 1993! Have you heard the Phoenix Festival 93 show? /watch?v=052zRPA0B1k It's great!

Please someone tell me what gig holes footage that was from

@dummytree Cool! Someone should upload it; it appears to be one of the best performances of Violet I've seen.

Most intelligent as well

I wish I could find that Hole performance/concert at 1:26!

I don't really know if Courtney put Harvey down, she made a comment about her take on feminism at the time...Her attitude is naturally rude tho lol

Allore

Hole could totally rock

great to see breeders, and courtney love must have been happy during this period before kurt cobain shot himself

I consider it more impressive that P.J. Harvey refused to open for Nirvana when Kurt asked her to than it was when Kurt refused Axl Rose's invitation for Nirvana to open for Guns N' Roses. Even if she wanted to open for Nirvana, and maybe she didn't, who would want to risk being subjected to a backstage lesson in what a female entertainer is allowed to believe from the likes of Courtney Love? Actually, that might have been Hope Sandoval. PJ Harvey at least turned Dave Grohl down when he asked her to sing for Nirvana though. lol.

@suhijo

9 жыл бұрын

StephenAndrew777 She didn't turn down on propurse, she had a big schedule committed.

@StephenAndrew777

9 жыл бұрын

suhijo I'm 99 percent sure she turned kurt down directly.

@suhijo

9 жыл бұрын

StephenAndrew777 I am talking about Dave Grohl, don't know about Kurt anyway.

@StephenAndrew777

9 жыл бұрын

suhijo I know that. I have heard that Kurt personally asked her to open for Nirvana when they met. She had kind things to say about him, but if she did refuse, I think she turned Dave down for similar, personal reasons. I don't know.

@TheSickNeeds

5 жыл бұрын

@@StephenAndrew777 she probably turned Dave down cus she thought it was for the Foo Fighers.

PJ Harvey-Not the most beautiful of women (but she is attractive), but by hell can she sing, write & perform!!! She's in a league all of her own...

@orgone555

10 жыл бұрын

Precisely what was the point of your comment? It's incredible how this entire video revolves primarily around issues of femininity and you just prove the point, so if that was your point then well played however I find that highly unlikely.

@deathmetal11111

9 жыл бұрын

As opposed to who? The supermodels L7, Courtney Love and Breeders? PJ Harvey is the best looking lady in this group. How in the fuck did Kurt Cobain get stuck with that ugly bitch.

@BZCAPMOOR

6 жыл бұрын

Come on, she´s hot as fukk

@1chienandalou

6 жыл бұрын

She’s a genius. She’s also beautiful IMO. Very beautiful. But really, do we have to talk about appearance of every female artist? (Agree with the first comment)

@Garouix I think it might be Angers 1993 ? I would have to compare with the audio.

@mindovermatter5781

4 жыл бұрын

Angers 1993 yes

@dummytree

4 жыл бұрын

I found that out during the last 8 years and posted it on the LiveNirvana forum haha :)

3:20 Hole finally singing a good song :)

PJ wouldn’t need any conversation with Courtney Love and probably wouldn’t want to...There is one with class, a great knowledge of music, the other is pretentious, vulgar and so egomaniac, she has nothing to teach to anyone. I of course love the Breeders

Has anyone noticed how Hole are all playing their guitars right-handed? I saw a video where they were all playing them left-handed. I find that very strange.

@AB-bt9eb

7 жыл бұрын

Most people comment on Courtney, out of all the bands. Shows how interesting and captivating she is to them. (I actually love all these bands. Huge fan of Courtney.

@ahmedmahon2022

7 жыл бұрын

Yeah but why do you think all the bass and guitar players were playing their guitars left-handed in one video and right-handed in another?

@micnik4793

3 жыл бұрын

@@ahmedmahon2022 The video was probably flipped

@scottcharney1091

3 жыл бұрын

@@ahmedmahon2022 The first video you saw was probably reversed, to avoid getting taken down by copyright bots.

whats the name of the very first band playing ?

anyone know what song is playing hole at the minute 3:28 ???

@snorgisborg2

4 жыл бұрын

Penny royal tea

6:26 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I can't believe she said that lol lol lol lol lol lol!!! She's my kind of woman.

:)

2:51 side eye

Courtney mocking PJ Harvey, no no no.

@tickedoffnow

8 жыл бұрын

she mocked PJ Harvey because Kurt had a Crush on her

@kaitlinmojica9678

8 жыл бұрын

+Jamie Hellfire how you know?

@belleofkilronan8565

7 жыл бұрын

I read somewhere that Courtney was concerned about Kurt's like for PJ Harvey. Like deathly concerned. I would be too, if i were a psycho hose beast.

@micnik4793

3 жыл бұрын

@@belleofkilronan8565 Whered you read that?

@micnik4793

3 жыл бұрын

@@tickedoffnow No he didnt lol

song 0:37 ?????????

Yeah okay, everybody relax. Courtney has said many times that she really likes PJ Harvey. We all know that Courtney and Kurt loved to talk shit all the time, just for people’s reaction.

Courtney Love saying that PJ Harvey doesn't know what she's talking about. lol that has got to be the most idiotic remark in history.

Is your name really Finch? And if so, any relation to Jennifer Finch of L7?? .....

@gormlys

5 жыл бұрын

This is pennyroyal tea

L7

Not to mention how smart Courtney has been to start Hole and marry Kurt and everything. She is more talented as an entrepreneur than as a musician or actress

@almightyirony

3 жыл бұрын

Right?!?

So what they're trying to say is that they're a part of a movement... right?

L7, the Breeders and PJ Harvey are great artists ! And Hole is...

les breeders

Anything! Stop bullshitting. Jealousy because she was married to Kurt

Kim pretty and Kelly too. Kelly pretty and Kim too.

How can anyone put Hole in the same category as The Breeders? Hello misogyny?

No it’s the breeders

Made the year Mia died

Courtney is so kidding herself thinking she’s better than PJ! The fact they refer to her as “mrs.kurt cobain” says it ALL

What's that P.J.'s piece being played in the background at 2:23 - 2:42 please ??

@movzx0fh

8 жыл бұрын

+movzx0fh Ok, now I know ...hoorray! :-)

@Bbderbala

8 жыл бұрын

+movzx0fh Darude - Sandstorm

@movzx0fh

8 жыл бұрын

Heather O'kward 'Sheela-na-gig', that's what I meant ... :-)

Ok so what. Are you lecturing me about Courtney's life or what is the sense of this discussion? What I meant was that I just don't view her as a musician in heart and soul like Kurt. Her priority was recognition and fame and yeah she flopped a couple of times with her movie but was still aiming for a career and was eager to make friends of statue so she could get where she wanted to go (blowjob for contract- type of person maybe?). She was just more into the glamour (don't mean to piss you off)

Courtney is so very pretty

@buddywilliams5650

3 жыл бұрын

She looked like a skank compared to Kristen.

Wait... HOLE playing Pennyroyal Tea?? Was this before or after In Utero?

@jastking

7 жыл бұрын

Wait... So, after apparently (in Utero couple months before) ... Sooooo, more footage of that show? Did she intro it as a Nirvana song? Juuuuust curious 🤔🤔🤔

@AB-bt9eb

7 жыл бұрын

Kurt was her husband...

I like PJ and the Breeders about 10 times more than Hole. I can't believe how Kurt could ever have said he wanted to quit his own band and join Hole. I mean come on Hole? L7 is much better than Hole. They are so overrated as a band. Courtney was just locally known as that chick from Hole but worldwide everyone knew here as a Cobain before she really got succesful with her own band. The music industry sucks that's my point. Good bands disappear and less original bands take their place