Mick reminds me of Ace Frehley, both are highly underrated, but are great players. Neither one is a shredder, and neither one is a flashy player, but they are both true rock guitarists when it comes down to the way they play their riffs. Mick and Ace both put their hearts and souls into their music and are true to themselves.

LA Guns was underrated! Always loved their music and vibe.

During their heyday everyone was enamored with flashier guitarists and Mick caught some shade for his more blues based orientated style, but looking back on it now he really played what the song needed and stayed true to himself. He was a big part of their sound (better or worse) and I commend him for knowing his limits with health these days. It’s sad that it had to end this way, much respect to Mick!!

@supernothing77

Жыл бұрын

It's ironic the two guitar players that were 'the worst guitarist" were in the biggest bands and still play to big crowds. The other being CC with Poison

@jamescon55

Жыл бұрын

@@supernothing77 EXACTLY.....And even though Mars and DeVille are 2 totally different kinda players? I have always thought Mick was and IS criminally underrated. And? I even kinda dig C.C.'s early BC Rich and CRATE raw, grindy tones on their early stuff! But yeah, Mick being the "OG MAN" that he IS and WHAT those other guys HAVE pulled on him? ........TOTAL dissrespectful blasphemy cuz NOW? Dikki Sukks (and the rest, but ESPECIALLY Dikki) wanna go to 2033 and call it "the CRUE's 50th Anniversary tour" 🤨😒🙄 Yeah, IT IS , REAL "sad" in tha LEAST with WHAT HAS come down with that band.....SMH.

@davidkanengieter

Жыл бұрын

@E.T. styles agree. Mick wasn't super flashy, but he's solid. Good, steady, catchy blues undertones. Didn't rely on speed and decibles.

@spacejockey4746

Жыл бұрын

Yes. Mick and Slash were slagged badly in the guitar rags and even placed No.1 and 2 in the horrible category of “Worst Guitarist” in Guitar World (I believe CC might’ve placed third). But whose songs are most remembered?

@gerry1620

Жыл бұрын

I always thought Mick had a non-commercial metal look where the other three were the typical hair band. I mean as far as looks.

An "instrument holding Milli Vanilli." Ouch. That one hurt.

@atticusfinch3931

10 ай бұрын

Ya that was a deep slash , but it might be true

@twolak1972

5 ай бұрын

NIKKI VANILLI. HAHAHA, What a fucking turd. Deceiving their fans all those years. LAZY POS never once tried to learn bass to redeem himself. Just play my backup tracks I wanna go shoot some heroin. F*****G LOSER.

Phil Lewis is actually a great singer. Saw LA Guns last year. And Phil was a full on professional.

@jaecrowther2100

Жыл бұрын

You like la guns listen to girl

@adkleiner

Жыл бұрын

Saw them too with Keifer and Guns blew the doors out

@jaecrowther2100

Жыл бұрын

Bro that's the singer for la guns before he joined la guns the band name was girl

@Kevslatvin

Жыл бұрын

@@jaecrowther2100 IIRC Phil Collen from Def Leppard was in that band as well.

@ashmart7698

Жыл бұрын

Yes I saw them last summer with Faster Pussycat it was a great show. Just pure load rock n roll

Phil Lewis is a great singer and L.A. Guns were criminally underrated. I was not a fan of what came out of LA but Cocked & loaded is better than 95% of what came out of that town. Go Phil!🤘

@johnsmith-ug5tp

Жыл бұрын

Sex action and electric gypsy

@biggybum62

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. First 3 records killed. Unfortunately appetite came out before la guns self titled and kinda sucked up everything for everyone else. Guns are a far better band and we’re just a 2 years too late to make it huge

@brent69

Жыл бұрын

La guns is 100% technically better than gnr

@filmaker256

Жыл бұрын

but he said hed take the money too lol

@craighill3715

Жыл бұрын

@@filmaker256 for that kinda $$ I'd fight a grizzly bear with a KFC spork in my underwear..and win!🤣

I love La guns and I love how straight Phil and Tracii are. He’s a thousand % right…

@Violator2

Жыл бұрын

Such a good band!

Phil is dead on with this. I do NOT understand people paying big dollars to see Axl sing Welcome to the Jungle for the millionth time no new music in like 20 years. Then you have the frauds that are Motley Crue. People are sheep. Meanwhile, bands like L.A. Guns are still pumping out QUALITY music album after album and RIPPING it the FUCK UP live. Saw them recently. Still full on live and tearing it up. Love Phil. Always have. Spent some time with LA Guns backstage at a meet and greet 2 years ago in Colorado Springs. Really cool laid-back guys ALL of them. Ace von Johnson, Johnny Martin, and of course Tracii. None of the rockstar attitude bullshit. I'd pay to see LA Guns 100 times before tossing a quarter at Motley Crue or GNR.

@johnsmith-ug5tp

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree. Personally, GnR didnt age well and when I hear any of their songs on the radio i say, Barf and change the station.

@williamberry8895

Жыл бұрын

What about Steve Riley?

@MrOctober44

Жыл бұрын

Lol. Cracks me up how riled you people get over this. What do you care what concerts strangers go to? 😂

@williamberry8895

Жыл бұрын

@@MrOctober44 if people wanna waste their money on bands who can't play anymore let em right?

@derekgooden2507

Жыл бұрын

@@MrOctober44 you confuse being bewildered by people throwing money at bad bands with caring or being "riled up". Making an observation about something doesn't mean you care about it. For example. There are animals running around the city of Chicago looting and committing crimes. I OBSERVE that. I neither give a shit nor do I get "riled up" about it. They voted for it they deserve it. Pass the popcorn.

This is why L.A. Guns still actually rocks!

@user-ty2xv6xw8j

10 ай бұрын

❤❤❤

You know John 5 signed a plethora of non-disclosure agreements to keep their secrets safe.. 😂🤣

@corrineagnello4584

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree, it was probably 20 pages thick. Non disclosure this, you sign away that etc.

@brianforgie7724

Жыл бұрын

No secrets you watch enough of their performances you can tell whats going on.

@dekapitatorr

Жыл бұрын

MC contracts are different. you can burn them whenever they want. Easiest job John 5 ever had.

@SuperGregrr

Жыл бұрын

John 5 just seems too good to play with Motley doesn't he? Man, the vids of him playing are just crazy.

@machupikachu1085

Жыл бұрын

@@SuperGregrr That guy is a BEAST on guitar! Seriously, one of the best out there right now.

That's brutal and true. I saw Motley 5 times in their prime. Mick Mars was insane, these riffs are stamped in my brain. The rest of the band are clowns.

@shaunclifton5281

Жыл бұрын

👍Truth. Mick was the draw for me. You never hear it much, but I love his playing on Dancing On Glass.

@stevenweller7900

Жыл бұрын

Me too. From 1983 to 2022 and Mick has slowly slipped. One show Vince announced Generatiin Swine and Mick started playing Afraid.

@markmonroe7142

Жыл бұрын

Who wrote the songs?

@johnbruce4003

Жыл бұрын

That’s a funny take. Many bootleg shows from ‘85-‘97. Go back and watch Mick’s solos from those shows. Crowd doesn’t give a fuck!

@sketchyold

Жыл бұрын

@@stevenweller7900 Those are such forgettable tunes you really can’t blame Mick for playing the wrong one 😂

Phil can absolutely someone who can walk his talk. Truly. His voice is amazing and when you hear Guns perform live it doesn't sound like a tribute band. I agree with him on the social skills as well. Tommy is a f**king child and I'm embarrassed for him. I have always been a huge Nikki guy but that started to fade after their "final tour" only to come back again, and again and then this Mick stuff really turned me off of Motley. LA GUNS has always been a favorite. If you haven't seen Phil and Traci live, you're missing out.

@Love-Fist

4 ай бұрын

I feel the same way about Nikki Sixx as you do too. Was like one of my idols but. Started learning more of what a POS he is since. Shitting on Tracii and BOD, Fighting with Silly Erna of Cruefest 2, the farewell nonsense, then the disappointing stadium tour, now Mick Mars.... Fuck Motley Crue and they were my favorite band for a very long time. LA Guns for life. Would have been cool to see Tracii in MC but I'm sure he wouldn't have done it.

Phil Lewis hit the nail on the head lol

I know Phil personally and I've had some great times with him on tour. He's an old school guy who takes his craft far more seriously than most from that era. It's even more impressive that he has stuck to his guns all these years regardless of the pay, exposure or glory. The path he took reminds me of Lemmy.

@jaysantiago9673

10 ай бұрын

Except Phil is poorer than Lemme's old roadies are. Phil's a lying has-been.

@mercedesvelasquez8781

10 ай бұрын

He performed so well when I saw their orginal line up finally play together in a lomg as stime at the whiskey back when I was either 19 or 20 and I am now 34 so that was back in 2009 or one of those year's lol and saw them one more time so worth it. I wish I would've gotten a chance to meet Phil bit his wife was a total bitch and made it hard on the females to meet him..

Mick is a fabulous guitarist. He may not be a Shred King, but he is a Master of tone and song writing.

@luvyesmusici4886

Жыл бұрын

Some of the greatest riffs, EVER! Motley was about MTV, and Mick’s guitar playing.

@termsofusepolice

Жыл бұрын

@@luvyesmusici4886 Except Sixx wrote virtually every riff you think Mick did. Look at the songwriting credits. There's a reason Mick is in his 70's and still hasn't released a solo record.

@williamberry8895

Жыл бұрын

I'd call Mick 1 of the best the past 40 years. Oh most definitely.

@shannonhenson609

Жыл бұрын

​​@@termsofusepolice Nikki wrote the lyrics and probably the over- all melody....but he sure as hell didn't write any of the guitar riffs or solos. The fact of the matter is, and I strongly suspected it even back in the 80's, Nikki cannot play the bass guitar, much less write any riffs for lead guitar. Even after all these years...Nikki's abilities on the bass are rudimentary, at best. Nikki wanted to be a rock star, not a musician.

@patrickhale424

Жыл бұрын

​@@termsofusepolice you're wrong about that. Nikki came up with the lyrics not the riffs.

Mötley Crüe is currently making Journey’s situation look pretty damn near decent! 😂

@mikemartin2423

Жыл бұрын

What's going on with Journey ???

I Love Phil Lewis. Wasn't an opening band for LA guns twice. Not on tour with them just for those nights. Got to meet him, he's cool as shit. Also, isn't it refreshing to hear somebody speak the truth? Lol. Mad respect for Tracii guns Phill Lewis and the band.

@user-ty2xv6xw8j

10 ай бұрын

❤❤❤ I love Phil, always a gentleman ♥️

I wonder if Nikki was playing bass when I saw the Crüe on the Dr Feelgood tour? He definitely wasn't really drinking Jack Daniels from the bottle onstage, even when Tommy definitely was drinking from the same bottle. Their chorus vocals were obviously taped. Mick was playing live, he even threw in extra licks. Tommy was playing. Vince was missing words even back then. In my opinion they should retire. Vince sounds awful, Nikki is a poser, Mick is gone, and it's time to stop. Also I believe John 5 made a big mistake joining those clowns. I hope he's getting a fat payday, and not Mick's money.

@ericb2409

Жыл бұрын

They should have quit when they signed that "We're quitting forever" contract & swore they were done. Probably none of this sad end would have happened. It reminds me of bank robbers who get away with it for years & decide to do one last heist & then everything falls apart.

@comfortablynumb9342

Жыл бұрын

@@ericb2409 well said. I agree. The footage from that tour was bad enough. Mick sounded/played better recently from what I've seen. He's the only one I have any respect for as a person.

Phil lewis is actually pretty damn good.

@Trustme77

Жыл бұрын

I might give Cocked And Loaded another listen later just because my respect for the guy increased after I finished this video...

@adomomcjinkies4787

Жыл бұрын

@@Trustme77 agreed

I feel for Mick. Dude was the sound of that band and now being tossed out like trash.. He ought to be taken care of by the band but evidently greed is still crowned the king..

@Gcssdvnkloiutesc

Жыл бұрын

Mick quit, and still wants to be paid as if he didn’t.

@latentsea

Жыл бұрын

Mick needs reparations! He slaved for those guys Now the chains are off so show him the money! He only has 70 million how is that gonna last him for the next 50 or 60 years?

@JSyder-co3xp

Жыл бұрын

​@@Gcssdvnkloiutesc and you know this for a fact since there's reports he was fired. So which is it genius

@user-ty2xv6xw8j

10 ай бұрын

​@@latentsea😂😂😂.

@latsnojokelee6434

2 ай бұрын

Fun story- back in the 80s when I lived near Marina del Rey, I stopped at the grocery store there and two people in front of me was the strange man dressed all in black. The cashier was looking at him like she didn’t know if she should run or not and the more I looked at him, I realized that was Mick Mars. He paid for his groceries by pulling out this wad of rolled up cash. I’ve never seen that much money rolled up. And when he left, I told the other ladies who he was, and they had no idea about Mötley Crüe. Even though he looked sickly back then, he was definitely really rich .

Phil has always called it out and Called it how it is good bad or ugly he has always kept it real no BS even when him and Tracii we’re fighting he called out all the BS !!!

This is the absolute truth. Nikki is in his 60's and acting like he is in his 30's. Socially stunted because everyone has kissed his ass his whole life. Told him what he Wanted to hear instead of what he needed. Must be a sad existence to not have good enough of a friend around to tell him the hard truth and stop him from his constant verbal diarrhea.

@fivestring65ify

Жыл бұрын

Someone should have told him to learn how to play.

@deselby3421

Жыл бұрын

Substances, bimbos, false friends, hybris.

@latentsea

Жыл бұрын

He just bought a house, he is busy decorating

@robertfreeburg

Жыл бұрын

@@fivestring65ify or at least learn how to tune up a 4 string bass. Nikki is nothing but a turd in a punch bowl. CHANGE MY MIND !!!!!!

@jamesriver3745

Жыл бұрын

I can't stand Nikki. Talk about trash. He is a straight up fraud in every way. Vince lip syncs and doesn't even try to hide it as he waddles around on stage like a c section special at the lowest of low strip clubs. And tommy....the guy probably beats off to himself in the mirror when not talking or making it all about himself. Biggest frauds. Yeah, let's plan a "Final Tour" for our sheep fans, and after the tour is over, plan another one! It amazes me how fragile and insecure these guys are, when you are so used to getting your ass kissed that you can't handle any statement that does not kiss your ass. Typical twitter warriors. I'd rather pay money to see someone crack Nikki one, and wipe that smug entitled look off his face, then go to a crue show.

Dude ain’t wrong. Motley’s (and KISS) best days are in the breeze. I love all 3 bands. But of the 3, only LA Guns still brings it. 🤙🏼

@user-ty2xv6xw8j

10 ай бұрын

😂 Nikki is just a walking ego. He knows L.A.Guns is still making new music just as good as it ever was...Motley Crue isn't.

Phil Lewis is correct, and at 66 years old, still sound amazing live.

Mick was the only person in MC actually playing live during the Summer Stadium Tour. And obviously Vince singing. No one could sing that bad with a backing track.

@HaXaW5150

Жыл бұрын

🤣💯

@gulfgal98

Жыл бұрын

Vince singing? I thought that was screeching. Too funny!🤣😂🤣

@waspbitch6014

Жыл бұрын

OMG ..you crack me up.... ALL of ya! I would have loved to see Poison again & Def Leppard but, passed on the tour because of the Crue. I hope Mick takes them for ALL their worth & then some! Team Mick ALL The way!💖🤘

@fivestring65ify

Жыл бұрын

You really can't call what he does singing?

@deselby3421

Жыл бұрын

That wasn't a parody? Holy mackerel...

The audacity of Nikki to have a tv show called my favorite riff

@deselby3421

Жыл бұрын

Must be about the ocean, because he knows jack crap about music other than substances and bimbos

@RS-ol8or

Жыл бұрын

“My Favorite Backing Track” starring: Nikki Vanilli

@MichaelWH

10 ай бұрын

He didn't say it was "his" though :)

He's fucking spot on🎯

LA Guns kicks some serious ass ! Love Phil and Traccii !

Mick is the only member that isn’t a POS Human. I was ready to walk out of the stadium tour when they started “The Dirt”. Vince sounded AMAZING, and I looked right at my wife and said we’re leaving. It was obviously fake. Only reason we stayed cause my 15yo son wanted to. Nikki is the only person alive that can give Gene Simmons a run for his money when it comes to inflated egos.

@bb-gc2tx

Жыл бұрын

at least genes in on the joke that hes arrogant nikki not so much

@brianshaffneraclc

Жыл бұрын

@@bb-gc2tx Yeah say what you will about Simmons, he knows what he is, and it's all pretty much by design. Gene's doing theater, whereas Nikki is like an unknowing parody of a parody.

Mick Mars made that band a headliner. Mick is underrated and it's a shame. He deserves all he has coming and so much more. Rock on Mick.

@JSyder-co3xp

Жыл бұрын

There's also a video KZread from Mick's band that shows Mick was the one behind Tommy's drum set raising up and spinning. His band was doing it in 75 long before the Crue.

Phil and the Guns play live.. I watched them play a set recently. And they are still writing new stuff. I love and respect that band. If you look at the lyrics to say ... Magdalene for example ... Its a beautiful poem set to kick ass music. Very underrated band, They've always been real ones. Never get the credit they deserve and are hugely overlooked. Cocked and Loaded baby! x

@coolbreeze1627

Жыл бұрын

Magdalena was winger homey. The ballad of Jane may be what you think you thought.

@jockmctodger

Жыл бұрын

​@@coolbreeze1627 No he's correct, Cocked & Loaded 1st song on side 2

@coolbreeze1627

Жыл бұрын

@@jockmctodger my fault.. I apologize to the op. 🤘

@Brooklyn_Powers

Жыл бұрын

I've been a fan from the beginning. I remember when I first heard Magdalaine, I realized that they were really great musicians. As good as those other songs are, that one really stands out.

@davidperrott5098

Жыл бұрын

@@coolbreeze1627 I can assure you that Magdalene is LA Guns. The Ballad of Jane is also. Both from the awesome Cocked and Loaded record. Maybe Winger did one as well but with an 'A' on the end?

Love LA. Guns 🇺🇸

Mick Mars is Motley Crue. It's his sound and his tone that gave them a career

They should have quit when they signed that "We're quitting forever" contract & swore they were done. Probably none of this sad end would have happened. It reminds me of bank robbers who get away with it for years & decide to do one last heist & then everything falls apart.

John 5 is a pro and at that level they need it.

@spacejockey4746

Жыл бұрын

Still a bad fit.

@jamesriver3745

Жыл бұрын

terrible fit

@Incomudro1963

Жыл бұрын

@@spacejockey4746 Yeah, like when Steve Vai joined Whitesnake. John5 just doesn't fit. At all.

THANK YOU, PHIL! SO MUCH.

I took a leak with Phil in 87’ ! 😂 He was literally doing his sound check and walked into the bathroom at the U of Iowa basketball stadium while I was at the urinal. Kept singing right through his 💦! I volunteered for security through our frat. I also got to meet every Def Leopard member as they were sitting right next to me watching the sound check. (Guns opened for them.) It was a crazy night and I had meet n greet/ front row view for free! 🤟

@ytr3488

Жыл бұрын

Ok, kid, sure, whatever you say. Thanks for sharing your delusions. Really enjoyed the squeaky leaky

I love what Phil said about John 5 being the trendy choice. And MC is even late on that one. 😂

Anyone who's been around the scene since London at the Starwood knows that . I feel good to be able to live long enough to see karma served to Frankie. Nigel Benjamin is laughing his ass off somewhere.

@martymartin2894

Жыл бұрын

Whose Frankie.

@Thinkforwardnow

Жыл бұрын

@@martymartin2894shit head Nikki

@martymartin2894

Жыл бұрын

​@Ididntsignupforthis oh yeah I forgot his real name.

@robertpavlicart1332

Жыл бұрын

​@@TANTRUMGASM not fat at all....rich yes

@adamschwass8050

Жыл бұрын

@@TANTRUMGASM exactly.... Motley is bankrolling and pissing off haters even more. I'm not big on anything since 94, but it's comical how upset people are. Phil is in for publicity.

Nailed it when he said John 5 doesn't fit. He really doesn't.

An Instrument holding Milli Vinnili 😂that's the best comment ever

I always thought when Tracii left LAG for Brides, he was thinking if and when Motley reunites, and if Mick can't do it, he'd be the guy to step in. That was the only reasonable explanation I thought for him leaving his own band. Wasn;t till I interviewed him years later that I got more details about the move and there was more to it.... But still think that was in the back of his mind. Lewis is correct, he'd be a perfect fit.

I always liked that guy.

For 50 mil? All I gotta do is mime and wiggle my ass? Sure sign me up too 😂😂😂

That interview was priceless!😂 ... LOVE THE GUNS! ❤

Definitely agree Phil Lewis a really good singer and interacts with his crowd. Traci Guns is a beast on guitar and is so underrated. LA Guns as a band were underrated and have put out some goods tunes, even still to this very day. 😊

@davidperrott5098

Жыл бұрын

100% agree Mickey. Traci is an amazing guitarist. Easily as good as Slash if not better. I wonder what the songs would of been like if Axl had stuck with them?

@machupikachu1085

Жыл бұрын

@@davidperrott5098 Tracy destroys Slash as a guitarist, no question. Sadly I think GnR wouldn't have been as popular because Slash's timeless 70's sound made the band stand out from their contemporaries in the 80's. Instead of being called the new 'Areosmith', they'd be called the new 'RATT'.

Phil ain't never lied! We all know L.A. Guns is an insanely talented band and Phil is Marvin Gaye for people who wear black eyeliner, but he's also one of the realest people you can ever hope to meet. Perhaps it's because Phil is so real that he never became an industry darling, but for those of us acolytes of rock n roll, we're so glad that Phil always remained the people's voice!

I completely agree that John 5 does not fit in Motley Crue, and Guns would have been perfect. However, I'm glad that didn't happen. I'd rather have new L. A. Guns material than Motley. Also, of all the 80s bands I still listen to on a regular basis for the last 40 years, and this is no exaggeration, I maybe listen to a couple of Motley Crue songs a year. However, Dokken, Ratt, Great White, L. A. Guns, and quite a few others have always been in regular rotation. It is what it is.

@mattrock12

Жыл бұрын

DJ Ashba seemed like a no brainer to me (he was rumoured to be Mick’s replacement for the “retirement” tour due to Mick’s health concerns. Also rumoured that DJ played a lot of guitar on SOLA) but I’m guess like many others Nikki has worked with, Tracii included, there is bad blood between them (Nikki seems to be a very petty and thin-skinned person).

@vaekkriinhart4347

Жыл бұрын

MC were done after Shout at the Devil.. I was still a fan during Theater of Pain, and saw them on that tour, but I never bought another MC album except for the '94 Corabi album

@anthonylynch4737

Жыл бұрын

They would.have been better off finding a younger Zack Wild type unknown like.Ozzy found in the in the 80's rather than going for john 5.

@brianforgie7724

Жыл бұрын

​@@anthonylynch4737 john 5 fine musician too clinical. I would have got Phil X. Before Bon Jovi he had that dirty flashy sound. Played raw. Got that attitude shit by the ton. Not the greatest guitarist but he shows up every night. Him and his band The Drills do some great covers and stuff. That's my pick

@anthonylynch4737

Жыл бұрын

@@brianforgie7724 He has the right guitar that's for sure.

Tracy and Phil trash talked Motley Crue from the stage when they played in San Diego last week.

Phil’s 100% right!!!!!

Brutal honesty...if it's the truth but hey What do I know

Phil is a bad ass you rock man

Is it fair to compare Motley Crue to Milli Vanilli? "Girl you know it's true.."

@mikewood1566

Жыл бұрын

It's not the first time I read that Sixx is a poser with little instrument skills. He's gotten by on his look as a hairband rocker.

@motleydude73

7 ай бұрын

Hmmm a band that's been kickin ass for 40 years compared to a couple of talentless dancing hacks that were in the spotlight for 12 months... Yea so comparable.

@infiniteuniverse9528

7 ай бұрын

@@motleydude73Once Motley got caught playing backing tracks at a show folks paid a fortune for, they put themselves in the same category as Milli Vanilli. Not me

@motleydude73

7 ай бұрын

@@infiniteuniverse9528 Not even a close comparison. Do you even know why bands use backing tracks? A lot do it. KISS, Aerosmith, Shinedown, Def Leppard. Especially when there is only one guitarist. 'Fills in' the rhythm section. And Vinces vocals are definitely real. Hardly polished studio sound are they.

@twolak1972

5 ай бұрын

​@@motleydude73More like SUCKING ASS, FRAUD FRAUD FRAUD, What a fucking joke. Nikki always was a POS, VINCE A MURDERING DRUNK AND TOMMY A WIFE BEATER. MICK CARRIED THAT BAND AS WELL AS WASTED A COOL NAME ON .

I’ve always heard how “Nikki writes the songs” for years, but have never seen actual evidence of this. What real world, tangible examples exist of Nikki Vanilli writing which songs? Because I tell ya….the current evidence of today-their backing track usage & being apparently unable to play simple things live-paints a different picture totally of Nikki being this songwriting genius musician.

@Trustme77

Жыл бұрын

If we're talking songwriting credits I'm not sure how to confirm or disprove that; there are a lot fewer witnesses to the songwriting process than to concerts, after all. But I'm aware that sometimes bands will credit a member with input on some songs in order for them to qualify for royalties and keep them happy. (I'm not sure, but I *think* Ratt did that with Bobby Blotzer, for example.) So a statement like "Nikki's a genius, he wrote Looks That Kill and Wildside!" might be false, I guess.... 🤷‍♂️

@RS-ol8or

Жыл бұрын

@Mucho Macho ah ok, thanks man. Makes sense. Yeah that’s a songwriting credit, but honestly, not the hardest part of the creative process.

@RS-ol8or

Жыл бұрын

@@Trustme77 makes sense. If Nikki wrote the lyrics, mostly, then that def gives him a songwriting credit.

@motleydude73

7 ай бұрын

45 years of evidence you plonker. Nikki wrote 95% of their music and lyrics.

Hilarious and he's point on

I knew people who were on tbe inside of crew who have said for years that nikki couldn't play and was never even really an addict. Was all just an image he created

@lolatu8255

Жыл бұрын

There's a Randy Rhoads movie that talks about Nikki trying to join Quiet Riot and Nikki not knowing how to play for shit.

@KenKellySWFL

Жыл бұрын

Anyone that has done heroin as much as Nikki claims he did would look like Keith Richards… or even present day Tommy Lee! 🤪 Tommy actually looks like he’s on Meth!

@twolak1972

5 ай бұрын

HAHAHA Nikki brought a rythym guitar to audition for a bass position. LMFAO. The fucking idiot didnt even know the difference. HAHAHAHAHA

La gunns one of my favorites.

I mean…people REALLY thought Motley Crue COULD play?!???

Phil is right. The reason Motley Crue got John 5 is because he's played in bands that are considered to be more modern and relevant than Motley's 80s contemporaries. He's basically their salesperson to the modern rock audience. It's just another move to stay current like they did when they hired John Corabi. They could have picked up Traci Guns or George Lynch and this whole thing might have been a little easier for the fans to digest. And even if Mick is having a hard time playing guitar they keep Vince in the band even though he can't sing live. They'll always keep Vince because if they ever hire someone else to sing for them Vince will outdraw them with his solo band, that's some crazy shit.

@majinblood6133

7 ай бұрын

Dude Lynch already has to suffer a bloated whale wash up who cant sing for shit anymore…

Phil is a stand up guy. I'm a sound engineer and I worked with LA on a tour with Wasp. Wasp screwed them, Ratt and Metal Church on that tour. I was doing monitors at a show in Detroit, and Phil thanked me for giving the the band what I could because Wasp said they could only have the side fills and one front monitor. What a-holes! Peace Phil!

@machupikachu1085

Жыл бұрын

Blackie screwing people? When did he start doing that? Oh, wait...

@kunkmiceter

7 ай бұрын

I'm a big Wasp fan and think Blackie has one of the best voices ever in metal. But.... I don't think I'd wanna be friends with him. 😅

I saw them & yes they use backing tracks & Vince can't sing. But Mick was not the only musician in the band. Tommy Lee is a really good drummer too.

Mick's guitar work is fucking sick. I love the blues-infused metal sound (or at least I did when I was young)

The more musicians that seem to chime in on this whole issue from the inner circle of the traditional heavy metal scene seem to be truthfully speaking in my eyes with Motley Crue just doing this whole tour just for the money. But then again who wouldn't. Everybody knows they use backing tracks and I think people who go to these concerts know. I still can't believe how people supported this tour they are on when they swore the supposed "Farewell Tour" was the last. Just shameful as the book! I will still listen to both of these bands. Business sucks!

Without Mick, Motley Crue would have been long forgotten.

Phil is awesome! One helluva singer and frontman.

Their first album is absolutely their best, I loved the rawness of it! Shout at the Devil was okay and then after that they kept sucking ass and declining in my opinion!

@nicholaskruger9460

Жыл бұрын

True. First two. Then forget about them. Truly

Come to think about it, nobody’s ever heard an actual Nikki Sixx bass solo…

@Dave_Wight_The_Rock_Oracle

Жыл бұрын

the guy has jedi like skills, the only bassist I have seen clapping both hands as the bass comes through the bass, amazing

This is an example of bad karma. They made such a spectacle of their retirement and cessation of touring agreement, etc. All the merchandising money they scammed off their fans with the final tour tchotchkes and then the Staples shows where they were selling final show t-shirts for $75-$100 bucks. They completely ripped off their fans with that scam, money grab. Now it’s coming back to screw them because Mick was the only real musician in that band with any cred. He’s completely outed them for being total frauds and complete hucksters. They could’ve retired and went out with a shred of decency. Now they’re a joke.

@jeffmartinaz

Жыл бұрын

Good point.

Motley Crue was inspired by Alice Cooper and horror movies. It's more about a show with "Characters" then it is about technically playing music like Rush or something. Do people get pumped up when they play their music on a recording at a basketball or hockey game? Yes! It really doesn't matter at this point whether Nikki plugs his bass in or not. And I play bass and played in cover bands for 15 years, so I know what I am talking about. Would I do it? Hell no, I'd play live or not at all. I am available if the crew can afford me. Just give me a big ass headband with my metal hair attached to it, and put me in there! (I also could learn their entire set in about a week.)

I went to the stadium tour to see mick mars. I think they gave him about 1% of screen time but because I’m fair I’ll settle for 20% of my ticket monies back.

It came very close to being Tracii back in 2005.

Phil didn’t lie.

Unrelated,. I saw LA Guns in Fort Lauderdale back in 1988 or 89. I think the name of the bar/venue was The Button South. A band named Hurricane Alice opened the show.

L.A Guns I thought was always better than Motley Crue

Adding vocal tracks is one thing, but faking instruments is an insult to music

Just watch Mötley’s performance at the U.S. Festival… probably what they’d still sound like without taped tracks!

@CuteLesbo69

Жыл бұрын

I was at the 83 US Festival, had not heard of them and instantly hated them when they started playing. By the time their set was over several people around me were booing and throwing garbage towards the stage.

Nikki didn't know the difference between a bass and a guitar. I love John 5. You're right. John is like Mick, too good for them. Have you heard of John 5 going to rehab? That's because he's never fell into the drug scene. Mick only went because pain pills is what was prescribed for his AS.

I feel like backing tracks are okay if we're talking horns or other instruments that aren't played by the regular band. As dude from Falling In Reverse said, sure they could pay for a whole orchestra instead of using a recording of an orchestra, but that would be a waste of money. That said, if you're onstage with a bass in your hands and strapped over your shoulder in front of a crowd, you ought to actually be playing it at least SOME of the time, ideally from start to finish. If I could see the Crue for free then I wouldn't care as much about how much was live vs. recorded. If I could see them cheap then I wouldn't care as much. But when we're talking expensive tickets, no thanks, I don't want to pay $60 or whatever to see pyro and shit while listening to recordings. Not when I can listen to the original recordings for free, although your mileage may vary.

Yes, the music was built around Mick’s riffs and solos. Without him they would’ve never made. Just like Poison rode CC Deville’s coat tails because from the beginning CC was a lot more talented so they relied on him while they grew and developed their skills.

Thanks again

I sincerely mean no disrespect but why would the bass have to be prerecorded?? Couldn’t anyone play these songs on bass almost effortlessly? Or am I missing something?

@kfing1

Жыл бұрын

As a bass player those songs are super simple to play. Any fiddly bits he doesn't play on stage anyway, the times he does play lol

Phil is the man, respect

Phil’s 100% correct

God ,he sums up dikii suxx so perfectly

I mean nobody could call Motley Crue a complete Milli Vanilli Sham . They have played their instruments on most to their Work for Decades . But they are in their 60s and can't maintain the Young Motley Crue Level of Playing their songs anymore Live . Might as well call Kiss a Fraud too . Kiss brought in Ghost / Shadow Session Guitar or Drum Players to play on some of their Best Albums . They Bob Kulick on a Couple and had Vinnie Vincent writing some of their songs in the 80s when he wasn't even a part of Kiss . Nikki Sixx isn't a Virtuoso Bass Player , but he is such a Great Song writer for Motley Crue to make up for his Bass Playing Deficiencies . So it's kind of a Catch 22 dealing with his Importance to the Band . Without his Song Writing personality , and Leadership , they aren't the same Band .

Amen Brother Tracii!!

I was there at one of the shows. There were guitar backing tracks, behind the solos too, so......I don't think Mick can say much.

@twolak1972

5 ай бұрын

BS Mick always gave 100 percent. The other 3 were always more concerned with drugs or pussy.

Yeah, what Phil said. 100% right.

Phil Lewis is FN awesome

I'd be curious to know who the ghost bassist was on Motley's Theatre Of Pain album.

@twolak1972

5 ай бұрын

Probably Jeff Pilson. WE NEED A LOVER sounds like Jeff's playing.

LOL that was a big ass truth pill with zero candy coating.

I can't believe all motley Crue concerts were pre recorded even back in the 80's?? Shout at the devil tour, theatre of pain , GGG?? I don't think so

@daviddigital6887

Жыл бұрын

They played live. Tommy is pretty good and so is Mick but even a bad bass player can pluck a beat. Nikki never did bass solos. He always did the goofy fake jack Daniels thing and falling all over the stage instead of an actual solo.

@nikkipacheco6835

Жыл бұрын

@Nikki Sixx not bad , what's up

That was the most amazing thing I’ve ever heard a rock musician say, and it’s all true! I don’t mean to piss anybody off, but I never ever understood why people thought Mötley Crüe was so good. They are very basic, musically. Although Tommy is a beast on the drums…

How many days until Nikki says Phil is a washed up loser?

Hey Phil is absolutely right!!

Lol Phil's awesome and spot on

there is a great video of nikki six bass wireless not being plugged in on stage and you can clearly hear the bass being played through the PA. Then he skipps off stage to return just a few seconds later with the wireless plugged in. All the while the bass track never stops in the PA. Thats pretty blatant.

respect to Phil to ripping that fraud Nikki Sixx and Motley Fraud

1:30 & specially wen he turn 25 wen meant or/join the band

Where did you go??