Ktm sx-f 350 - repair of the damaged cylinder head. Double plain bearings on camshaft.

Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль

Repair of damaged engine - when to failure oil pumps.
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  • @4thdimensiontravels855
    @4thdimensiontravels8553 жыл бұрын

    1st time ever!!! A guy that properly uses a torque wrench. One non stop motion til you reach the correct value. Great work

  • @dirtygarageguy

    @dirtygarageguy

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is complete bollocks. Period. Who told you that crap?

  • @fatfightingbros9639

    @fatfightingbros9639

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dirtygarageguy lol the only reason most people don’t do one full motion is because they working in tight spaces, you’ll still get an accurate reading using the right tools

  • @kstinson

    @kstinson

    3 жыл бұрын

    I certainly agree this is good practice due to the fact the clicker wrenches do give false readings when bounced. The shock loading from bouncing causes the clicker tab to be more easily over come from users perspective letting out a audible click before reaching the desired torque value. That being said though, as others have pointed out; if the wrench is in good working order and no design flaw is present preventing it, the click tab will reset into the pivot pin. So on the next pull the wrench it will have been reset and able to obtain the proper torque value.

  • @MrBuddysAdventures
    @MrBuddysAdventures4 жыл бұрын

    Really nice work Paul. Your editing and camera angles are also top notch in this video. Machining + engines/auto/moto = doesn't get any better!

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @MyZxcvb12
    @MyZxcvb122 жыл бұрын

    Great work they use to make cam shaft bearings then someone decided to do away with them. Bad Idea. Good to see how you got round it.

  • @haroldshoot3126
    @haroldshoot3126 Жыл бұрын

    Sad part of this is that the factory if to blame for the problem here. If they didn't use plastic oil pump gears the problem would've been so common. I am rebuilding my 350 for the 2nd time because the shop that did the first one used the plastic oil pump gear that was available.

  • @joycethomas8868
    @joycethomas88683 жыл бұрын

    You Sir, are a very patient man. Very nice work. Cheers from Akron, Ohio, USA

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @sylvaner01
    @sylvaner013 жыл бұрын

    another great video, good to see a repair on the head rather than it going to scrap.

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching.

  • @darronceurter3706
    @darronceurter37063 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a website? I would like to have this done, my bike needs this done.

  • @wklein93
    @wklein933 жыл бұрын

    É muito satisfatório a manutenção com as ferramentas adequadas

  • @victorgarabato2341
    @victorgarabato23414 жыл бұрын

    Sos el mejor. Saludos desde Argentina. Tkm

  • @purebloodheretic4682
    @purebloodheretic46823 жыл бұрын

    I have 6x Honda XR600r Heads that Need this Exact Procedure, All have Wrecked Cam Tunnel Bearings That are Non Replaceable, Very Common Problem for XR600s No OEM Replacement Heads are Made & Would be have been Prohibitively Expensive Anyway! Nearly all XR's Die Oil Related From Cam Tunnel Failure!! No one I Know of Can Repair them, How you have Done here on the KTM, I think the Labour Costs would be Crazy Anyhow!! -Cheers for the Lesson How it's Done!!👍😉🇦🇺

  • @zardportugal
    @zardportugal4 жыл бұрын

    World class video. Congrats.

  • @jasonbond5584
    @jasonbond55843 жыл бұрын

    I admire these people! 👍👍👍

  • @motozz8258
    @motozz82583 жыл бұрын

    Bizare Oem head engineering , overly complicated design . Nice work on the repair.

  • @89cataldo
    @89cataldo4 жыл бұрын

    impressive! you are the number one! compliments!

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @holmes1956O

    @holmes1956O

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thats a lot of machine work. I personally dont know anyone with the equipment or the intelligence to do that job. Good work

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@holmes1956O Thanks.

  • @89cataldo

    @89cataldo

    4 жыл бұрын

    holmes1956O wow job

  • @markcortis2348
    @markcortis23484 жыл бұрын

    Once again excellent job,👍👍

  • @nunomiguelrodriguessilva3028
    @nunomiguelrodriguessilva30284 жыл бұрын

    Top repair!! thank you! Subscribed!!!!

  • @ToyotatechDK
    @ToyotatechDK3 жыл бұрын

    Incredible work sir

  • @dirtygarageguy
    @dirtygarageguy3 жыл бұрын

    How do you think that loctite will hold up? Seen as its on the exhaust side?

  • @hendrasaputra5032
    @hendrasaputra50323 жыл бұрын

    From Indonesia you good job mr.Paul

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @_T_R_E_V_O_R_
    @_T_R_E_V_O_R_3 жыл бұрын

    These are the definition of perfect

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @stephanelanglois6140
    @stephanelanglois61403 жыл бұрын

    awesome job 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @juannnn8074
    @juannnn80744 жыл бұрын

    Que buen trabajo capó!!

  • @nurullahshaikh6015
    @nurullahshaikh60153 жыл бұрын

    Excellent work 👍

  • @kibert1
    @kibert12 жыл бұрын

    Eso si va bien... Únicamente admisión sufrió desgaste?

  • @davidcort2857
    @davidcort28574 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic work, great to watch.

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @davidcort2857

    @davidcort2857

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulXchannel No probs Paul, love engineering, and repair engineering.

  • @timengel7549
    @timengel75493 жыл бұрын

    Nice work!

  • @vcnt_mr
    @vcnt_mr3 жыл бұрын

    If you want to fix the bolts with temperature you need to use other metal glue. Loctite have a stronger metal glue. It’s green and you need 250° C to remove it.

  • @nunesmotos351
    @nunesmotos3514 жыл бұрын

    Um trabalho feito dessa forma é uma retifica de primeira

  • @miacuop
    @miacuop3 жыл бұрын

    excellent repair skills.

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @juancarlosmariscal3707
    @juancarlosmariscal37073 жыл бұрын

    Muy buen trabajo excelente

  • @FabioSilva-vs6ry
    @FabioSilva-vs6ry3 жыл бұрын

    boa tarde eu tenho uma sx-f 450 2008 e ultimamente sempre que paro no fim de uma trilha o motor desliga sabe me indicar de onde possa estar o problema ? motor trabalha bem e levou filtro de ar novo e vela nova e continua igual sou dos açores e não temos oficinas nesta ilha para motos , se poder dar uma dica agradecia muito obrigado .

  • @damianchytutos9334
    @damianchytutos93343 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful man!!!!!👏👏👏😎

  • @mabroukzidane133
    @mabroukzidane1333 жыл бұрын

    good job bady

  • @homiedow9459
    @homiedow94594 жыл бұрын

    I have a head of a 2007 rmz250 is damaged from the camshaft, won't you help me repair it?

  • @ajmalva5678
    @ajmalva56784 жыл бұрын

    Nice work💯💯🔥

  • @RoadToGlory2701
    @RoadToGlory27013 жыл бұрын

    Great job

  • @jesseramirez7654
    @jesseramirez76543 жыл бұрын

    Whats it cost to get that done on a yfz450 head

  • @somnangmotorbikerepair336
    @somnangmotorbikerepair3363 жыл бұрын

    ktm's cylin heat it so crazy

  • @winartiningsih4436
    @winartiningsih44363 жыл бұрын

    Mantap bro.

  • @mujisilvi
    @mujisilvi3 жыл бұрын

    Good job👍👍👍👍

  • @edodearil8929
    @edodearil89293 жыл бұрын

    Amazing wokrshop brother🤟

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @12main
    @12main4 жыл бұрын

    How much does this repair typically cost? I unfortunately have the same issue with my Husky 350 head, however the plain bearings have worn significantly more into the head an cam bridge, I think the head may be beyond repair, however after watching this video it has made me think differently.

  • @patrickdetwiler
    @patrickdetwiler Жыл бұрын

    What would the cost be to have this work done on my 350xcf head?

  • @toddcarlo6464
    @toddcarlo64642 жыл бұрын

    I just had the oil pump drive idler gear pringle. Head needs this very repair done. How can I get in touch?

  • @ART.Seventy7
    @ART.Seventy7 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing 👏👏

  • @vincentzompa5541
    @vincentzompa55413 жыл бұрын

    How much is that process compared to just buying a new head

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    It depends on the damage.

  • @rztrzt
    @rztrzt4 жыл бұрын

    And that kids is why you ride two strokes...

  • @How2Wrench

    @How2Wrench

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @reyemery7920

    @reyemery7920

    4 жыл бұрын

    ok moped

  • @holmes1956O

    @holmes1956O

    4 жыл бұрын

    mips 2 strokes break down too.

  • @snguyn796

    @snguyn796

    4 жыл бұрын

    🤦‍♂️🤣🤣🤦‍♂️

  • @speedphreax
    @speedphreax4 жыл бұрын

    As always nice work! Why do you put those large screws in? I know that they are to keep the bearings from spinning and that they are on the non load bearing side but would it not be an idea to put a small hardened locating dowel in the head that does not break the surface of the bearing?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. It is better when milling the surface.

  • @How2Wrench
    @How2Wrench4 жыл бұрын

    Very nice....

  • @andreasborsiin3967
    @andreasborsiin39674 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for an excellent video. Is there a reason to use aluminium instead of a more common plain bearing material like bronze or is it what was found in the garage?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks . The camshaft normally rotates in the cylinder head which is made of aluminium. Bronze has a different thermal expansion than aluminum.

  • @Interstellar8877
    @Interstellar8877 Жыл бұрын

    AWESOME.

  • @gibamec7636
    @gibamec76363 жыл бұрын

    Top, Very good, master

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching

  • @marcosinistro3231
    @marcosinistro32314 жыл бұрын

    Grande😁👍

  • @prophaniti1
    @prophaniti13 жыл бұрын

    Love watching you videos and repairs in what can be done, but from a cost point of view is it viable to have this type of machine work done or is it better value for money to buy new parts?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching. The repair should be cheaper but it depends on the quality of the repair.

  • @kfuhs696
    @kfuhs696 Жыл бұрын

    I need this done

  • @VinhNguyen-mx7xx
    @VinhNguyen-mx7xx3 жыл бұрын

    amazing (y)

  • @giacomobandini447
    @giacomobandini4474 жыл бұрын

    Good job

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @Bouldertag
    @Bouldertag2 жыл бұрын

    What would you charge to do this for someone? If you would do it.

  • @kopilambada8419
    @kopilambada84193 жыл бұрын

    Perfect

  • @castro88j
    @castro88j Жыл бұрын

    what’s the cost for that process?

  • @mecalpsha4473
    @mecalpsha44734 жыл бұрын

    Hi Paul X excellents video what type of magnet brand you use to remove the collets on valve spring?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. The tool is homemade. Old screwdriver and untitled magnet.

  • @fatfightingbros9639

    @fatfightingbros9639

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulXchannel oh so you answer this guys question but not the other guys I see how you work

  • @cumbo5782
    @cumbo57822 жыл бұрын

    Hi ,what tolerance did you allow on diameters .05mm?? and what grade or alloy did you use .Thanks Mike and great job.

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    0.04mm AlMgSi0.5

  • @alipim3504
    @alipim35044 жыл бұрын

    Excelente trabalho sou do Brasil parabéns

  • @SAM-ng7sb
    @SAM-ng7sb3 жыл бұрын

    TOP !!! 😀

  • @TC-zi2yp
    @TC-zi2yp3 жыл бұрын

    Looks like someone had their fingers in those bearings with some sandpaper before you got into there.

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    many people try to fix it at home but material is already missing

  • @ozcancayir5078
    @ozcancayir50782 жыл бұрын

    çokkkkk güzel harikasın

  • @crossmania7379
    @crossmania73792 жыл бұрын

    Super

  • @njmxjunkie3128
    @njmxjunkie3128 Жыл бұрын

    Hey can you do this for me on another bike? 2015 wr250r

  • @pierreheck5637
    @pierreheck56372 жыл бұрын

    Hello, very impressive ! in your video, camshaft is 21,96. What size de you use for plain bearing ?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    21.98mm

  • @indianbrainmm1178
    @indianbrainmm11784 жыл бұрын

    Super pro 🆗👍

  • @therealspixycat
    @therealspixycat4 жыл бұрын

    How do you solve the material cut from finished bearing by the slit saw?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    first saw and then milling

  • @therealspixycat

    @therealspixycat

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulXchannel the order of machining in this video suggest otherwise

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@therealspixycat ???

  • @chrisstephens6673

    @chrisstephens6673

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@therealspixycat i think you missed the extras he made, in one section of the vidro there are 8 pieces, presumably 4 are the offcuts that are less than half due to the slitting saw cut. I missed it first time i watched, take a look at 6 56.

  • @theomeijer9238
    @theomeijer92383 жыл бұрын

    You can fix it Witt babet bearings , its better qualitie & dont forgett the oil pump Replease itt. or try too make the pump more power ❗️

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ok

  • @bostjanozimc5837
    @bostjanozimc58373 жыл бұрын

    Can you tell my is this 7075 grade aluminium or something else. reguards Bostjan

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    AlMgSi0.5

  • @user-cd5oo9xu3w
    @user-cd5oo9xu3w2 жыл бұрын

    Cool

  • @sambatmulyo5660
    @sambatmulyo56604 жыл бұрын

    not with check sounds? ohh

  • @palapaanjhonnreyp8792
    @palapaanjhonnreyp87923 жыл бұрын

    sir you want to collab chanel

  • @realpremier
    @realpremier3 жыл бұрын

    Does this work? No hardening needed? Cheers

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not

  • @Krankenwagen2010
    @Krankenwagen2010 Жыл бұрын

    How much is a job like this?

  • @gregrichardson5306
    @gregrichardson53063 жыл бұрын

    Superb work Paul, takes me back to when I was in Engineering ... now I "tinker" :) ... love the work but how does the effort stack up against of a new head / cams ?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @craigjarvis9677
    @craigjarvis96773 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍

  • @harleydavidson2371
    @harleydavidson23712 жыл бұрын

    Do you take on public orders? I have a 2009 kx250 damaged head. Thanks.

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do not provide a public service.

  • @dwisaputro2102
    @dwisaputro21023 жыл бұрын

    Is the high performance aluminum beryllium cooper?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    AlMgSi0.5

  • @dwisaputro2102

    @dwisaputro2102

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulXchannelthank you... from Indonesia

  • @dwisaputro2102

    @dwisaputro2102

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulXchannel sorry what's your name sir almgsi0.5?

  • @gregoryn2644
    @gregoryn26443 жыл бұрын

    Cool cool. Very awesome.

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @gregoryn2644

    @gregoryn2644

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulXchannel I looked how you at work. Its such amazing. You have a gold hands and platinum brains. I wish you good luck.

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @gregoryn2644

    @gregoryn2644

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulXchannel I want to see your video . All of them. Im a motorcycle man . I had : Yamaha FZX 750 - 1986. CBR 1100XX superblack bird -1999 Suzuki DRZ-400S -2003 Honda XR 650 R -2003 Honda CBR 1000RR -2005 Honda XR 250 baja - 2004 . The last bike was a such fuckin bad. I dont know why ?!

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. Honda XR 650 👍

  • @decari1688
    @decari16883 жыл бұрын

    Quá đỉnh.

  • @Лишнего.нет
    @Лишнего.нет3 жыл бұрын

    Спасибо за интересное видео👍🏼,от нас лайк и подписка❤️ Заглядывайте в гости.

  • @johnsolimine1164
    @johnsolimine11643 жыл бұрын

    Does Hight Performance Aluminum mean 7075 alloy?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    AlMgSi0.5

  • @tiorico1421
    @tiorico14214 жыл бұрын

    Why not tig weld aluminum on it and then machine it instead of making suplements?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    4 жыл бұрын

    For thermal deformations.

  • @victorSarramalho
    @victorSarramalho3 ай бұрын

    Can you tell me the name of the tool used at 4:43 ? Thanks

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 ай бұрын

    adjustment boring tool - made in the workshop

  • @victorSarramalho

    @victorSarramalho

    3 ай бұрын

    @@PaulXchannel Hello Paul . I'm glade to talk with you. Thanks for your quick answer. Do you have thé vidéo when you make that tools ?I i would like to know if it's possible to use the TIG weding to put some aluminium on thé damage area instead of screwing the half aluminium cercle like you did on this vidéo. Sorry i'm a french guy trying to write english from memory. Thanks you Paul! ✌️

  • @Leylekoglu
    @Leylekoglu3 жыл бұрын

    Hello Ich have Husky FC 350 the Zylinder head ist so damaged can you this repair im from Germany ...

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am sorry. I am busy.

  • @harleycharlie5330
    @harleycharlie53303 жыл бұрын

    new head is 800 without anything just bare cast

  • @Kyle-pl6rl
    @Kyle-pl6rl3 жыл бұрын

    How many hours were on this engine?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    80

  • @Kyle-pl6rl

    @Kyle-pl6rl

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulXchannel oh jeeze, that’s not very much

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oil pump failure

  • @gamer2350

    @gamer2350

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulXchannel how do u know if the oil pump isn’t creating as much pressure as it’s suppose too?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    2 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/lGiEzbhmaK3gmtI.html

  • @char3503
    @char35038 ай бұрын

    Hi mate could i please get your email so i can pay you to do mine? Really need this done for my sxf350 2017 thanks

  • @nealetuck1758
    @nealetuck17583 жыл бұрын

    Hi do you have a contact email I need this on my 350 2016

  • @danishchannel1373
    @danishchannel13733 жыл бұрын

    If you were near me . .huhuhu

  • @robertojavierbuenabadperez4587
    @robertojavierbuenabadperez45873 жыл бұрын

    IT SEEMS A GOOD JOB, BUT IT ISN'T, THE TREES ARE ECCENTRIC AND THE PROBLEM THAT CAUSED EVERYTHING IS NOT SOLVED, BLESSINGS

  • @Angelina-xj5zd
    @Angelina-xj5zd3 жыл бұрын

    There's hardly any bushing where the screw is, a weak point.

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't worry it work well.

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    2/3 of the screw is in the lubrication groove

  • @Angelina-xj5zd

    @Angelina-xj5zd

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@PaulXchannel I would say it's a design flaw from the factory.

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Angelina-xj5zd This is a user error. A little oil.

  • @andreasjonsson8075
    @andreasjonsson80753 жыл бұрын

    Do you have a facebook for followers Paul?

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Only this YT channel.

  • @jonfyfazan
    @jonfyfazan Жыл бұрын

    👏👏👌🇳🇴

  • @_Hangman
    @_Hangman3 жыл бұрын

    People throw around the term "I'm an engineer" quite loosely. But what I just watched in my opinion is what I would describe as an engineer, at it's finest.

  • @PaulXchannel

    @PaulXchannel

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you .

  • @psiturbo

    @psiturbo

    Жыл бұрын

    Youu just did throw it around He may have machining skills, but he is nowhere close to a mechanical engineer, or any sort of engineer.

  • @_Hangman

    @_Hangman

    Жыл бұрын

    @@psiturbo I'm assuming you invented the space rocket then?

  • @psiturbo

    @psiturbo

    Жыл бұрын

    @@_Hangman wrong, AGAIN! engineer, LOL! C'mmon, you got the mic, tell us all the formulas, equations he utilized during this process. Seriously, is not that difficult, the machine is doing it all. I invented the BS Machine, and I called it Marc 2000...😂😂😂💥

  • @glimmerman4hm
    @glimmerman4hm3 жыл бұрын

    How many hours did that take? How much per hour is your labor worth? How much did material cost? Willing to bet you could buy the head new for less and not worry if 1 of those screws is gonna come out. Cool idea but only if you have a machine shop and no other option.

  • @grieks

    @grieks

    3 жыл бұрын

    *woosh* - the art of machining going over your head. Obviously this gentleman loves his work, has mastered his trade and takes great pride and satisfaction in saving an otherwise scrap piece of metal. It has nothing to do with cost or time.

  • @glimmerman4hm

    @glimmerman4hm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@grieks im my world it does. I totally get it when a part is no longer available, but most of us don't have a mill, lathe, and all the other machines to do that work or the time. Time is money in my world.

  • @grieks

    @grieks

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@glimmerman4hm It's not about this being realistic for you, or the most cost effective or time saving fix. Of course the average person doesn't have a lathe, or milling machine or the time. Of course the average person would just buy a new head. For the average person, time is money. This gentleman isn't the average person, he's showing us his craft. Just enjoy it :)

  • @glimmerman4hm

    @glimmerman4hm

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@grieks i did enjoy it, im just being the realist.

  • @grieks

    @grieks

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'll take Paul X's version of real any day 👍

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