Thomas, I enjoyed your video. You seem like reasonable guy to me. Let me tell you, and maybe you speak german, I don´t know, just check the german KTM forums. It´s a complete disaster there with this model. I was so in love with this bike. Almost traded my GS in for this model and I´m glad I did not. It´s not only the oil leakage. And even if it was, KTM seems not be in the position to fix it for their customers. There are problems with loose bolts, especially from the quickshifter. I mean, c´mon. 14.000€ for a bike and nobody thought of this? The dash has problems with moisture. German dealers, last time I red the topic, were supposed to no change them anymore under warranty, because the new ones are all faulty, too! Just a friendly reminder. This thing costs 800 € after the warranty runs out. Many people there had problems with the brakes, a dying engine out of nowhere, overheating on single tracks, where the motor dies too. If it wasn´t this unreliable, I would buy it in a heartbeat. But the number of problems are too hefty and this is the reason you can buy it with much discount from the first year of production. Even brand new. I am happy, that you do not experience that much of a PITA with this bike, but please check the facts, before you say there are too many negative reviews in this bike, just because you are in the lucky position to not have them. There are many negative reviews, because there are many problems. Thats the simple maths behind this. I hope you won´t experience them in the future and stay safe.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Well, to be fair. I love a good discussion about this bike. And i do see that there are some minor issues with the bike, and i'm not sure how warranty and customer rights are in other countrys, but in Norway we have some good laws on our side. A couple of bolts that need locktight are imo no problem at all! we all know about them and make sure to watch for this on regular maintenance. The dash has moisture problems, like every other bike i have own. It is hard to prevent this when you see where they have to put the dash, and whats right underneet (the engine) My r1200 GSA had the same issue, my 1290 adventure r... etc. No problem, the dash still works, and they replace it without discussion from KTM 😊They are working on a new dash, and everyone that has a warranty claim will get new one as soon as its on the market. Again, a minor issue and no real problem in my opinion. I'm not sure what other brake problems you refer to, but i have problems with mine, but this is also a minor problem and not a only KTM problem? And to say that all bikes is a problem is wrong imo. Yes, i do understand it frustrating to have a faulty bike brand new. But how many bikes are sold? and how many bikes is really unreliable? I had more problems with my KTM 1290 Adventure R, the BMW r1200 GSA and KTM 690 Enduro R than with my 790 Adventure r. Every time there is something negative to say or problem with any bike, people scream and shout on the internett about how bad it is, how poor quality it has and how they rather go for another brand that are so much more reliable. And the worst part is, All the brand haters jumps on the train and make the same noice. My experience is that if you look a little bit closer, look at the usage and understand what it takes to make a product like this. there is nothing black and white. There are just alot of gray scale. I do, and really understand the frustration from people who has any faults, or dont get proper service or customer rights served to them. But you have to agree we get colored way to much of the negative reviews online? The shocks on this bike can fail, like the front telehever on my GSA did, well, i do understand it sucks when you are in the middle of a trip, but it can happend with every bike. And to be fair, if you wright down the numbers, if you see how many bikes sold, how many issues it has compared to other bikes or bikes in general. I think you will see a much more equal picture of this. And I say this with love and respect. Thank you for the reply and insight to the matter. I'm not just sure i agree with you mate 😊

@restless_soulism

3 жыл бұрын

I agree with Thomas, not because I am also German. This model has been on the market for a while, so feedback is conclusive. I have researched German / English speaking forums and found similar opinions, the list is long. All bikes may have problems, sometimes you get unlucky, can happen with every item we purchase. But the relative % of people complaining is higher than usual even some KTM Dealers are pissed. My heart was set on T7 but once the price of 790 dropped in Germany to around 11-12K, I seriously started considering it. The bike is excellent. But some of the problems described go back to other models too. Somehow leakage is always a problem with KTM. Also, it seems that the early models where assembled in Austria, the rest is being assembled in China. As Corona has crossed all my plans, I still have time to wait, hoping for prices to further drop. I will test ride it. However, I really don't like the design with lower tanks. Again, this is a great bike and I am happy that you have been enjoying it so far. Be safe!

@restless_soulism

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen This french guy created a website just for this bike. It is like the bible for the 790, maybe you already know it. Check it out - 790adventure.net/

@patrickdelaney1315

3 жыл бұрын

As a former BMW owner and now new KTM owner no bike is perfect but this is a great machine! To be fair I love BMW as wellbut even BMW have problems on occasion

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Patrick Delaney my point exactly! There are no bike without some issues and some trouble! But i guess it comes down to what you are willing to live with

Great to see the bike running strong and a big smile on rider’s face 👍

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers ERV 😊I can't help it.. the bike is just so damn nice

Awesome Thomas. Got mine in July and have 4k on the clock. Just as you say, it puts a big smile on my face every time I ride it, whether that is going on the dirt or just commuting to the shop or work. Wishing you many more happy miles bud.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Vlerkies thank you mate and right back at you! Glad to hear you are happy with your bike and get a smile on your face every time you ride it 🔥👏🏻 stay safe brother

Glad to see you still love your bike. I started watching your videos while waiting for mine to show up. I had leakage on my front brake reservoir too. I disassembled it, cleaned all parts really well and no leaks since then. I've got nearly 13,000 miles on mine, but our riding season is longer here in Northern California. My bike has had zero issues so far. Yes a loose bolt here and there, but what do you expect if you ride in the dirt? The 790R makes me smile as well. Especially when it had taken me somewhere amazing! Cheers

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Ooohh yes indeed mate 🔥This bike is just amazing in so many ways. I really enjoy taking it out on my adventures. Hmmm... i should take a closer look at the brake reservoir myself. The wired part, it was leaking, and it go away after i put on a new gasket and the power part lid, but now it is back some how. Maybe some dirt has collected or something. I read something online about the original lid was to tight from fabric? Glad to hear your bike has minor issues and you love it as well 👏🏻Stay safe mate, cheers

Great review Thomas you can tell you love your bike. I feel the same with my T7. I've had many motorcycles in my 50 plus years riding but have never loved a ride more. Cheers

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bob. I really enjoy this bike, and i hope everyone has the same feelings for their own bikes. I have looked at the T7 more than once, but i have yet to test it. Hope to get it for a spin later this season. So i can do a comparison. Cheers

Brilliant video Thomas! I'm looking forward to putting the kilometers on my bike to do the 15k service. Sadly the 2020 season ended for me and my bike this tuesday on my commute to work when a car decided to give way to the car in front of me, but not me, in an intersection and smashed into my bikes left side. In the crash I broke my left clavicle and split my left scapula, the bike seems to have mostly scratched and broken plastics, but it's still getting looked over in my local shop. Looking forward to the 2021 season! Be safe on your adventures, and don't trust cars even if they stop for cars you have in front of you! Keep the great videos coming, they keep me sane during my and my bikes repairs. :D

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you mate 🔥Damn, sad to hear about your accident, but glad you hear you are ok and looking forward to get back on the "horse". I don't trust anyone but myself in traffic. I ride like everyone is trying to hit me. You and me both mate, looking forward to the 2021 season as well... Hope to get even more km on the bike. Stay safe, heal well and stay sane 🤣

@restless_soulism

3 жыл бұрын

That sucks, wish you a speedy recovery and stay safe!

Thanks for the great Review. I will get my 790 R next week. Greetz from Germany 👋

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

You are welcome my friend. Hope you found if informative. Congrats on your new bike man 🔥

Not raining a lot :-) Nice review, quality video as usual !!

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Sven Olsen hahaha it rains like this way to often 😂👏🏻 thank you, i look forward to see your lates video when i’m back from my cabin tomorrow 👏🏻 i’m loving the T7 more every day

You can go on any forum on any bike and find poor reviews. It is mostly people that don't own the bike and have probably not even ridden one. I own a 790 R and have had no problem so far. I might have a problem down the road but every bike I have ever owned has had a problem or two. People love to bash on other motorcycles that they don't own to try to justify the bike they do own. This bike is an amazing off road and on road machine. I love all motorcycles. I think most manufacturers make a good product. Don't listen to people saying this machine sucks! If you want one get one. You will not be disappointed.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Amen 👏🏻Like i said in the comments before, i have had some serious problems with all my bikes, but noting that could not be fixed. So i dont see it as just a BMW or KTM problem. Enjoy you bike and lets have alot of problem free miles on ours. I will smile every second 😊

Thanks for your videos ! When i was looking for a mid size adv bike, I don't know why but i didn't wanted to try the ktm, and because of your videos ( ok among others but mainly yours ^^), I did try it and now 4k km in 4 weeks across France and some off road in the Pyrénées and I am completly in love ! Perfect bike for me, really good to drive hard on tarmak and easy to take offroad.... ok a bit heavy to lift 😂 but well... I used to live in Oslo and would love to come back to travel across norway, finland and sweden with my 790 ! Maybe we'll meet one day ! Cheers

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Guillaume Albiach thank you for telling me mate, story’s like this motivate me alot 👏🏻🔥 so glad to hear you love the bike and had it on a great adventure 🔥👏🏻 stay safe, live life and make sure to contact me when you come to Norway again! We will meet for sure

Great video, I remember when you got the bike last year. I recently did a 12 months review with my 790R on my channel.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, saw your review a couple of days ago! Great stuff

’It puts a grin on my face...’ Totally agree. This bike makes me smile 😊

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

It is just one of the best machines out there. So much fun for the buck. 🔥

@keithcourneyea1609

3 жыл бұрын

Completely love mine in northern Alberta Canada

Once again Thomas, another cool vid presented without hype nor bullsh#t. There is so much negativity bandied around the interwebs for all of the 790's faults... Me, just a bit of an oil dribble from the countershaft shaft... At 15,000kms, no front / rear brake issues to date (will have rear brake recall done at the next service). Otherwise, like you, the 790R is my 'jack of all trades'. Makes me smile every time ride off and every time I pull up and shutdown the engine... This bike has loads of character and hopefully will prove long term to be the 'game changer' it was pitched to be... So far, for me. It is :)

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and i can’t agree more! I do think and hope we see a change in the aggressive marketing of bigger less usable bikes! Bigger is not better in my experience! Glad to hear your bike is problem free as well! Ride safe and stay safe mate 😊

I have over 6 thousand miles on my 790R and so far it's been great! I did experience moisture in my tft in the winter, but not in warmer weather, I didn't bother to have it changed under warranty because the new units are no better and my dealer sucks. It's a great bike, on and off road, only time will tell, but so far I'm very happy with it.I had the first service, but then I changed the oil with 5000 miles I'm not going to go 9,300 miles for an oil change! Thanks Thomas, good video ;)

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

I think most of the displays has this issue, and i'm not gonna change mine before they have sorted out the issue. And still, there is just a small amount of fog in the display, so it is not a dealbreaker in any way. Glad you hare happy with the bike mate. Stay safe 🔥

@jimenagulla9081

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Thomas! You too.

Nice review. All thinks (bikes) have plus and mineur points. But just what You say, when it puts a smile on you face every time you ride you bike 👌...

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, when you look trough certain forums, you see that newer bikes, have some issues, no matter what brand. This bike, just brings a smile to my face and brings out the best of me 🔥

I really like the 790R.I have a 990 at the moment and it seems to me the 790 is a bit easier for off road!Thanks for the nice review!

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

I hear so much great stuff about the 990! I see alot of guys ride it here in Norway as well! But i see some of them are trading it for a 790! Never owned a 990 myself, but it looks like a solid work horse

Great vid .. I have the 790 duke (same motor) and yes I’ve had quite a few issues in fact mines at the dealers as we speak having a new drive shaft fitted but this bike still makes me smile every time I take it out forget the negative and enjoy 👍🏻

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you mate 🔥New drive shaft? how what and why 🤣would be nice if you shared the story behind it. Yeah, sometimes you just need to accept that there are some minor issues with all vehicle out there.

@nigelworthington734

3 жыл бұрын

Yea I know how could that happen sprocket locking tab failed causing sprocket to work loose and all the splines on the shaft got obliterated... so ktm collected me and the bike and that’s it mate 🙄🤷🏻‍♂️

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Damn, that is a really bad end of a good trip! Hope they sort it out for you fast mate

Great vids.Thomas.You're very humble.Norway is wet,cold & windy roads so I reckon you should know what you're talking about.Me here in Qld.Oz.it's Summer all the time & I worry about wet hill bends.But I think the most dangerous thing is other road users.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Dennis Burton thank you mate 🔥 appreciate that. Norway has all 4 seasons in one day almost all year around 🤣👏🏻 so there is some things you need to live by if you want a comfortable ride in this part of the world. Wet hills can be a challange, but with some practise and skills they are quite fun 🔥 i just started this gravel road love 4 years ago! Feeling like Bambi on ice to start with! But do what you can’t and get better at it. 😂 no i feel much more confident and has way more skills, but nothing close to the guys who run gravel every day 😊

Thomas great informative video I have a new 790r love it perfect all-round machine I believe it is the most capable off road Adventure bike Great engine great handling on road even better off road No it is not perfect but great machine Nice useful upgrades

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you mate 🔥

Love my R! The only issue I've had in 2,000 miles was faulty brake switches which left my brake light stuck on and cruise control inoperative. Fixed under warranty of course. I also have a highly modded DR650 and with the engine and suspension mods the performance is close to a T7 due to an equal power to weight ratio. The 790 R OTOH is a massive performance upgrade! The rocket booster engine is awesome as is the electronics suite and suspension! I'm so spoiled now because it is my 'Unicorn' and there is nothing better on the market so can't upgrade to anything, I'm already at the top of the mountain!

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

DR Rider haha, i have not tried similar bikes on the market but i hear everyone talkes about the same! There is just something with the KTM engine and suspension that goes way behond everything else! Stay safe mate 🔥👏🏻

Great review 🙂 it does seem like a really great bike. The option to have abs on only the front wheel would be good to have on our T7s too. I think if we didn’t have those we might have gone for the 790 😊 but we’d need some deeper pockets 😝 You always have excellent b-roll in your videos! Good job!

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🔥 ABS up front is an advantage IMO! The tractioncontrol has saved my ass a couple of times, how are your ribbs Kenneth 😂👏🏻 i’m trying to learn more about slow motion b roll, speed ramp etc! So you may see more of it in future videos

@jimenagulla9081

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, the traction control, the thing that a lot of non 790R owners complain about, has saved me a couple of times! Love it

Have the 790 Adv R and had great plans before Covid and a return to school for re-purposing 🤨. Still, have been out on some back trail day rides and I find it beautiful. I’m not a great off road rider. Had street bikes for 15 years in the 80’s and 90’s then nada for 20 plus. Hopped on a Honda 2017 CRF 250 L Rally to get my feet wet with country roads and enjoyed it. But Canada 🇨🇦 is a lot of straight highway to curvy backroads so more power was needed and this bike fits the need. Issues at first: gas cock locks were not set properly between tanks and ran out of gas early. There are quick tutorials on KZread about them. Brake line was changed under warranty at 1000 km check up. All good there. No big mods yet but after the initial 1k service this bike came to life. It has a ton of manageable power, and is actually easier to maneuver on gravel roads than the 250. The lower gas tank cannot be underestimated. As mentioned, pretty busy to make big trips but even the shorter in town,on tarmac, trips are pleasurable. Had a bit of a rad leak, easily fixed with turn of screw. No oil probs as of yet. But, didn’t buy the KTM because it was dependable 24/7. I wanted iconic. I wanted personality. It delivers in spades. The Honda was indestructible and low maintenance but... dull. Great qualities if it is transportation, less so in the “FUN” department. Being in my 50’s I have different experiences and expectations than my 20’s. Not for everyone this bike. But I am loving it.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

This is another great point that you make. Some bikes, just delivers so much more personality and great fun. There are two brands i have owend that sticks out as my favourites, only because those bike had soul. Ducati and KTM. goes figure

I had my hub replaced under warranty and added brake tech front rotors, superb braking now. Cheers from the US...

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear that mate. Hope to see something similar on my own bike 🔥

@DRFOX55

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen By the way, 6000 miles, no other issues than the rotors..im very satisfied with the quality thus far.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear that! I feel the same

First thing first hit the Like button and then start to watch.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, thank you mate. Love the support. Cheers

Thanks 👍

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

No, thank you mate! You do some amazing stuff with this bike 🔥😍

Sehr gut Job!👍

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Danke 🔥👏🏻

Hello tshansen, I am very much enjoying your Content. Thank you for producing it. I have a 790 ADV R as well with 17000km and it astonished me to hear that you have the exact same Issue with your Brakes as I do. Together with my Dealer here in Zürich we have changed the Discs in the Front but that only helped for about 1500 km. If I am honest i sort of feel that the Wheelcenter might be bent because the Rim is moving sidewise as the same time as the Brakedisc makes a noise as i am turning the front Wheel while lifted. But my Dealer tells me this is normal and expected of a 21 Inch wheel and doesnt feel like doing anymore about it under Warranty - but I can SEE the Rim going sideways like on an old broken Bycicle while Riding!!! It brakes really terrible - especially in the City at lower Speeds. So annoying - The 790 ADV R is otherwise my favorite Bike I have ever owned but I am almost ready to give up and "downgrade" to a lower powered 700 Tenere. Have you had more Luck fixing your 790? Can it even be the center of the Wheel? In that case the KTM supposedly tougher Powerparts Wheels could be a fix. Here in Switzerland it is not legal to change Disc or Brake Rotor to a different manufacturer so I am stuck with those mounted on the 790. Changing to the KTM Powerparts wheel would be the only Legal upgrade i could make - but the thought of Buying the Wheel and another set of new Galfer Discs without knowing it would even make a difference makes me rather want to run to a Yamaha dealer... ... but sell him a Bike that brakes like this is just wrong. So you see - I am sort of Stuck :-D I am Sorry about the long Comment. Thank you for your Time if you managed to read it all. Sincerely Björn

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm, i have to take a closer look at the wheel after turning it to the side👏🏻 do not apologize, let me thank you for sharing your take on this 👍🏻

Hi and thanks for your comments on the bike! Glad to hear that you are happy with your bike! I didn't quite understand the issue that you had with your front brake. Could you possibly tell me more about it? I have had my front brake fail weirdly 3 times on my last trip where the lever would feel super hard as if it was stuck and when I pulled harder (almost panicing..) it suddenly got soft again and abs kicked in very briefly. I am very happy with my bike as well (20.000km in little over a year now) and did everything with it so far from jumping logs on single trails to racing street bikes in the alps. But I have to admit that I have had A LOT of issues so far... all under warranty mind you but still very annoying since I had to bring it to the dealer maybe 6 or 7 times already. I'm not sure if I will keep it after warranty runs out... display got replaced twice and still fogs up inside when it's below 15°C, rear shock failed at 12.000km, rear brake line, tank sensor failed at 9.000km, I get the "key error" when switching the engine off with the button on the handlebar from time to time and more minor issues. Also many parts I ordered with my bike were delivered 3-6 months delayed (foam air filter, race seat, carbon tank guards). I fear this bike will not age well. Too bad, since I absolutely love it.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

The issue i had and still have with my front brake is that is take uneaven when you brake at low speed. almost like it only apply on every half turn? So when we measured the brake disc they where out of spec. So it feels like the brake laggs when you apply gentle force (notice it alot in low speed) In higher speeds there is not a noticable difference. The display is a ongoing issue with most brands, and mine has been changed one time, but we wont change it again before there is a fix. Sad to hear you had so much errors with your bike. And glad to hear you got it all replaced under warranty. The Power parts can take ages to get from KTM. I dont know why it is. Something takes 2 days, others take 2-3 months. It is crazy, and i'm not sure why it is like this. I can live with the small and minor errors on my bike. the bike performs so well in all aspects that i can't see any other bike (yet) that can replace it. Cheers

@progammler

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen thanks for clarifying!

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

@@progammler You are welcome mate🔥

Thomas great video! What do you think about a suspension setup video? I just set mine up, but I’m far from being able to do/edit a video and even further from feeling in the position of doing any recommendations on suspension setup!

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

ADV Peru i have just started on planing out a suspension video, how to adjust and how to set sag! But i try to work in between my travel videos because this is i video i can make when it rains 😂👏🏻 i’m in no position to do any recommendations my self, but i can try to show how it’s done and what you need to adjust to get the response you like

Ive been looking online non-stop to see if the mosko fit better without side fairings. Thnx for mentioning 👌

@tshansen

Жыл бұрын

So glad you found the info you needed about the topic. I did ride without the fairings on my 790 and the mosko all the time. I see some are adding small bags there instead of the fairings so it hangs under the reckless system.

@carloscegelski4914

Жыл бұрын

@@tshansen yes ive seen some add the perun side rack and put small bags 2-5 liters. Then put a rackless system ontop. 🤙

awesome bike

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

thank you

Can you post the triple clamp headlight fix that you bought (it looked like a bracket); thanks great review.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/paeHlNmclK6cZdo.html i bought it trough a Norwegian dealer.

Hey very nice review! I went to look at a new 790 R 2020 today and really liked it. Only I'm now doubting whether I will buy it or not after reading several stories here of problems that can arise. I don't know how that is arranged here in the Netherlands with the warranty. And how tall are you if I may ask?

@tshansen

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Pelle, well you should consider the stories when decide on this bike, because the list is quite long 😉 Here in Norway you have normal warranty and as a consumer in Norway you have extended warranty on some stuff. Not sure how it is down with you guys. I have been lucky with my bike, not so many issues that some others report, and I hope to still be lucky in that regard. You will not read about all the owners that does not have issues with their bike, naturally 😇 I still have some problems with my front rotors (brake discs) but my dealer works on the issue. I'm 2 meters tall (200cm)

Thanks for the review, my head wants the 790 adventure R, my heart the 690enduro, my wallet the Yamaha 700 Tenere :)

@cristiancirciumaru4690

3 жыл бұрын

Robert I had the same “problem “. I decided to go with the 690 :)

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, i can understand that. I looked at the T7 for a while, and after putting on all the stuff i needed for the bike to be "enough" for me, i was almost at the same pricetag as the KTM 790. Without the electronics and extra horsepower. So for me the choice was easy. The 690 is an amazing bike, but it is just to little or hard to ride on longer adventures for my liking. A do enjoy a touring trip as well. There is where the 790 adventure outperforms the 690 in every way.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

How to you like the 690 this far?

@cristiancirciumaru4690

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen Im only getting the 690 in two weeks time.. only test rode it a bit on the road..it’s crazy light and feels powerful. i have also tested Both the T7 and the 790 and I could definitely already the weight difference in regards to the Honda. I agree with you that the 790 r is better value overall. T7 has a great engine but it doesn’t have that extra power ,its not as exciting as the KTM. Also the suspensions are top shelf grade on the R. And yes, they are both bikes that can do more miles in comfort and with some luggage. I have never had a lighter bike so for me the 690 is liberating from that perspective and I THINK it will give me more confidence off road. However , I am still a beginner off-road so I need to be careful and balance the benefits of a lighter bike with the power of this big single. For me the new electronics version works and I understand the engine is much more smoother and good for some road miles also. One other reason for this choice is that I have a second bike, a BMW R1200R ,as i like naked bikes. It has plenty of comfort for me ,a big engine, and a sporty nature when pushed. I also have luggage on it and tour in Europe once a year. So with the 690 I hope to have best of both worlds and extend my off road skills ,maybe later do some longer trips in France Italy Spain and why not even Norway for some parts of the TET.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

I do think this is the best way to find out! You have done some research, but it can only do so much! To own one and get to use it every day paints a much better picture of what your needs are. I think it sounds like the 690 would be a nice bike for you and what adventure you are about to do! Cheers 🔥

Great review :). Subscribed. May I ask if your dealer managed to sort out the warping brake discs for the second time? You mentioned he thought it may be the wheel hub? Curious as I had the same issue on my KTM 790 Duke. My dealer just fobbed me off.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Hello Jelly.... well, they have not manage to sort it out quit yet. I justed change the rim and it is still there, but not nearly as bad as before, so we are looking into replacing the disc's again with a completely different ones. I will make sure to post a detailed video about this issue when I find the solution for it. Just continue to go to the dealer. This is a warranty issue!

@jellybean8495

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen great thanks for quick response. I have owned 2 KTMs in the past, and both had minor issues (690 had used a lot of oil-known before purchase but was still surprised how thirsty she was! 790 had warped discs), but if my test ride guys as I expect I will be putting my deposit down on my 890 ;)

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

@@jellybean8495 i had a oil thirsty 690 as well. But nothing to bad, i know there are some known issues with the 790 and maybe 890, but i had not have any of them 🔥👏🏻

Nice video as always. I think 400 eur for 2.8 litres of oil, and filters is a RIP-OFF! Regardles that interval is every 15k km.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, well they do more than just change the oil and filter mate! But i see your point! I have worked as a carpenter for many years, and i see the value of having the mechanics and pay them for the work they do 🔥

Hei Thomas, can you tell me about your tire experience on the bike. I have my OEM Karoo 3 soon down. Looking at Motoz Adventure (rear) and Motoz Rallz (front). You had some Mitas E-07+ Dakar on the rear. What else did you ride and how was it? Hilsen fra Schweiz

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Markus M. Yes, the karoo 3 are hands down the worst tire i have ever tried! I run the tkc80 front and i have used the Mitas e-07+ and e-09 rear on the 790. On my 690 i had the motoz tractionator adventure and tkc 80. Great tires, but almost to grippy on gravel. I really like the mitas range. They have impressed me alot. But it all comes down to personal preferance. Try the one you like best and see what you think

Great work! Hope You sort out the brake issue. The 790R is a true allrounder with great configuration. Right now i'm watching some reviews at the 701 LR as well since they start to show up. Cool bike as well! Beautiful views aa allways, soon we will have the autumn colors 👌🏻

@cristiancirciumaru4690

3 жыл бұрын

@Mattias parts of you miss the 690 ;) just decided to pull the trigger on the new version. First KTM. Replacing an AT so I’m going the light way for first time.Btw the new 701 long range is impressive fuel wise for long off-road adventures. I think it looks a bit strange though with the shape of the tanks..

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Tjommi.... The 701LR is quite nice in my opinion. If it was better to ride on the longer touring adventures, i could look at something similar my self. But i do so much milage on various condition, there is nothing smaller than the 790 that fit's my bill. I can't wait for the mountians to go all orange on us 😊Stay safe Brother, see you soon.

@Braapncamp

3 жыл бұрын

Cristian Circiumaru haha, sometimes i miss the 690 but not that much i would swap again ( i think). Congrats on the new bike, you got it yet? I think You will like it in many ways, it's a fun machine and capable as allrounder. I agree on the looks of the 701LR, but if i would go that way i would concider it due to the desired fuel range. Looks are just looks 😂🤠.

@cristiancirciumaru4690

3 жыл бұрын

@@Braapncamp Im only getting the 690 in two weeks time.. only test rode it a bit on the road..it’s crazy light and feels powerful. i have also tested Both the T7 and the 790 and I could definitely already the weight difference in regards to the Honda. I agree with you that the 790 r is better value overall. T7 has a great engine but it doesn’t have that extra power ,its not as exciting as the KTM. Also the suspensions are top shelf grade on the R. And yes, they are both bikes that can do more miles in comfort and with some luggage. I have never had a lighter bike so for me the 690 is liberating from that perspective and I THINK it will give me more confidence off road. However , I am still a beginner off-road so I need to be careful and balance the benefits of a lighter bike with the power of this big single. For me the new electronics version works and I understand the engine is much more smoother and good for some road miles also. One other reason for this choice is that I have a second bike, a BMW R1200R ,as i like naked bikes. It has plenty of comfort for me ,a big engine, and a sporty nature when pushed. I also have luggage on it and tour in Europe once a year. So with the 690 I hope to have best of both worlds and extend my off road skills ,maybe later do some longer trips in France Italy Spain and why not even up north you guys have some amazing roads and landscapes around there very grateful to you for sharing the footage and adventures

@Braapncamp

3 жыл бұрын

Cristian Circiumaru You are welcome! I bet you will ride alot more on the new 690.

Hi, how the engine works on summer, does it get very hot with fans working all the time? Another question how stearing damper works on your 790adv R?

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Hello mate 👍🏻 the engine Works just fine in the summer! I will say the fan turns on just like every other bike! When you ride technical stuff offroad it kicks in much faster, but that is a good thing. I know some people add thicker fluid in the existing one, or upgrade to a aftermarket one! To be honest, i’m not good enough driver to see the need of more.

Hi thomas, just change the master brake and reservoir with brembo (solved the problem), we still does not have a recall here on the rear brake line ktm 790 adv here in indonesia

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, have to see what i get on warranty before i do something myself 👏🏻 thank you for that comment. Ride safe

Best review ever. And I’m not a ktm fan!

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 😃 I'm not a ktm fan either... I love all my bikes, no matter what the brand. 👍🏻

Absolutely right: Don't try it if you don't want to buy a new bike. I tried a few weeks ago, now I have one. This bike is a game changer. What are your favorite tires?

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Thies Freymuth hahaha, there you go! I warned you 😂🔥 congrats mate! I agree, this bike is a game changer in this segment. I would rate myself as a typical 50/50 rider, and my favourite combo is the tkc80 front and mitas E-07+ rear.

Great review, good looking bike👍 In my opinion the workshop/dealer is important. If you have a good dialogue with the workshop and it’s easy to get the problem fixed it’s ok at least as long it’s under warranty. But if it’s hard to get the problems fixed even minor problems can be a big deal.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Joones Adventures MC yes, that is a really good point i did not cover to much. I see alot of guys buying bikes in shops on the other side of the country because they want to save a few bucks! But they expect to be treated like kings when they step into the local shop. There is no problem that can not be fixed if you have some time and a good shop close to you

I think the bike looks better without the side fairing. But im not trading in my tiger800 😀😀

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

I have to agree... it looks more aggressive with the side fairings off 👏🏻Haha. the Tiger looks great, but it's not for me 😇😆

@toby7504

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen so many great bikes out the now days, you just have to find one thats perfect for you.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

@@toby7504 I can't agree more. I allways say that your best bike is your next bike. Find the one that does everything best for your driving and live happy

@toby7504

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen absolutly. Just love my triumph. Have little video on it if you are intrested😊

@jaronard1

3 жыл бұрын

That’s actually a really clever idea, first time I’ve seen anyone do that! I’ll probably try that the next time I’m trying to mount soft luggage myself.

How is this bike for tall riders? It is a midsize bike so very curious about how it is for you. Im 194

@tshansen

2 жыл бұрын

Hello Frank 🤩🔥 well, i’m 200 cm tall and this bike fit’s me really good! I had to lower the fotpegs with 1,5cm and the same for the handle bars! For better comfort when standing.

@frankskjelland2176

2 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen Okei sounds good 😀 thanks for the reply

My brother you have the spirit drivelike is no tommorow The KTM 790 Adventure is not perfect but it is very close lol i own a KTM 790 Adv 2020 and i have a KTM 890 Adv R 2021 on order ...:)

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, thank you and congrats on the new bike... do you know when it will start shipping? Cheers brother 🔥

@lucsergerie1835

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen I am From Canada i was told December :)

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucsergerie1835 December? That was fast! Can't wait to test one myself. See how big of a difference there is between the two 🔥

@lucsergerie1835

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen i don't think it will be much difference more like polishing a jewel :) all the parts or transferable that tell me very little as change but all the problems fixed ( clutch completly different , rims , ) i can't wait :)

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

@@lucsergerie1835 I do understand that... hope to get new parts from the 890 on my 790 recall 👏🏻

I have a 2019 790 adventure (s) model. I love the bike, but have had some problems. Brake line recall, radiator leaks, brake fluid leaks, and my bike is very rough starting doesn’t idle properly cold(it starts like an older carburetor bike). I only have 700 miles on my bike so can’t talk about longevity. I’ve done some upgrades to mine 1. Puig touring screen 2. Camel adv. heat shield for shock 3. Camel adv. neck brace 4. OEM kTm top case with back rest 5. Seat concepts custom seat All in all I really do like the bike. Although I’ve always wanted a GS so I might trade it in a few years and get a GS....maybe.....

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

The brake line, is that a problem? same with the radiator leak? just two clamps you need to tighten a little extra both are in reach without taking of the fairings. The rough start on the other hand, i see as a problem. Not fun and should be sorted out with the shop you buy it. Did the touring screen help you in any way? I'm so tall i have no problem with turbulens. I have no heat shield for the shock. every shock that is affected or defect is after very low milage and it also happend with bikes with the heat shield mounted. So i think there is some defect shocks from fabric.

@bdraidian6280

3 жыл бұрын

Thomas Hansen brake line recall. Yeah I consider that a problem. Faulty materials. You press the rear brake and the rear brake doesn’t work because the brake line expands so the pressure isn’t delivered correctly. I’d say that’s a problem. Radiator leaking not hose clamps yeah I consider that a problem also(fixed under warranty). As far as the shock I don’t really care, I figure for the cheap price of 80 bucks that the shield cost me I’ll put it on. No harm no foul. The I’m 6’2” and the puig windscreen is a 300% upgrade from the stock screen at higher highways speeds. Edit: and the rough start issue....I’ve had 2 different kTm shops tell me there is nothing wrong with it......

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

@@bdraidian6280 Well, the brake line recall is more because of heat, not because it will. expand, where did you come up with this idea? If the radiator leaks it is a problem. but do you think other brands dont have this problems?

@bdraidian6280

3 жыл бұрын

Thomas Hansen didn’t say they didn’t was just simply stating the problems the “I” have had my with “MY” kTm 790. Edit: this idea came from the tech from the kTm dealer that did the recall work on it. Edit#2 don’t really know where your going with this bud??? Are You sponsored your kTm or something?? AGAIN I love my kTm but I don’t Sugar coat shit.... I praise the good(motor,weight,suspension) but I also say and own up to the bad.....

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

@@bdraidian6280 Haha, no i'm by no means sponsored in any way by KTM. I'm just saying i don't feel alot of the negative about this bike is a real or to big of a problem 😊

Where are the cup holders??? 😁

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Right next to my 8 track and fishing rod 🤣

The service cost of my 790 Adv R was 120 euros for the 1000km and 189 euros for the 15000km

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Where do you live? That was not bad pricing at all mate 🔥

@windrides

3 жыл бұрын

Thomas Hansen I live in Greece

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

@@windrides Thank you, nice to know 👏🏻

Vi er jo praktisk talt naboer. Jeg holder til på Flaktveit. :)

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Haha ja da er det ikke lange avstanden! Bodde opp med flaktveit hallen før 😉😂

@senseipt

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen Vi har kort vei til alle MC-butikkene da... 😀 Har fulgt deg noen uker nå og sett de fleste av videoene dine. Du har fått meg så interessert i KTM'en din at jeg var innom Ride i går for å ta en prøvetur. Men de hadde jo ikke demosykkel.... Jeg så Ride The Bean sin video av turen til Bukkerittet i dag der du snakker norsk. Jeg forventet at du hadde bergensdialekt, så jeg fikk litt sjokk. 😂 Vi bør ta en tur en dag! Jeg legger ut på en 3-4-dagerstur i morgen (lørdag). Og så satser vi på en tørr og varm høst!

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

senseipt haha, the power of KZread 😂🙈 artig at du liker innholdet og at du ble frista til å prøve ktm’en! De har hatt en demo sykkel hele sesongen, mulig de har solgt den? En vanlig variant? For å gjøre en lang historie kort, jeg er oppvokst i Ålesund så har dialekten derfra 🔥 men bodd og jobbet i Bergen siden 2007 🤩 hvilken sykkel kjører du nå? Har fri neste uke selv! Håper å få meg en tur selv om været holder

@senseipt

3 жыл бұрын

​@@tshansen De hadde ikke Adventure R i alle fall. Skulle jeg hatt en KTM måtte det blitt den eller vanlig adventure. Menmen... det haster ikke. Jeg har en Suzuki DL650 nå som er mest tiltenkt pendling til jobb i byn og tur om sommeren. Men man blir jo veldig fristet av all gruskjøringen i diverse kanaler her på youtube. Hvis jeg får på noen grovere dekk takler den nok litt grus, men med simpel fjæring og midtstøtte smeller den fort nedi hvis det blir humpete. Har ikke noe særlig erfaring med gruskjøring heller, så kanskje jeg må henge på deg litt. Jeg har pendlet til byn om vinteren i flere år med en Yamaha FZS600 med piggete knastedekk. Det kommer jo ikke så mye snø her, men når det først laver ned er det moro å kjøre forbi busser og biler som står i grøften på vei opp til Flaktveit 😂

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

senseipt nei, R modellen har vel solgt såpass godt at de ikke har kunnet ta inn den som demo 😂👏🏻 ja skulle fått til en felles enkel grustur! Er noen fine grusveier inn i stølsheimen som er veldig lavterskel uten for store utfordringene 👍🏻 jeg får meg ikke til å kjøre etter saltet blir tatt fram!

Hmmm. I want to love it. I have a 2018 BMW R1200GSA and a 2019 F850GSA. I am going on a ride from South Florida to Cape Town, South Africa when this virus is over. My F850GSA is amazing... I took it on a trip from Miami to Thailand last year and it did great. But I need to shed weight -- so the KTM is an option. Biggest issue -- Biggest, biggest issue... When I travel the world on a motorcycle -- 90% of the time, adventure riders ride BMW's -- 5% ride KTM. Why? Because BMW's never break -- they are reliable. KTM's always have horror stories. If I am going to be in the middle of Africa somewhere -- I need to know the bike is not going to be a liability. So if I knew more, and felt like the KTM 790 was bulletproof -- I would get one. But I hear so much confusion that its not an easy decision... you are positive -- but so many are negative. I wish I know the right answer... KTM needs to up the reliability game and ensure adventure riders in remote places won't have something else to think about for safety other than common sense. Thanks. Love your videos.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

I guess you did not see all the bmw’s with the break in half front or ruined drive shaft? BMW are crazy comfortable! And i see why it is a solid choice! If you take a look at the guys running dakar rallys or huge trips like this! Why are there no BMW? I dont have the answers, i just have a different view on it! There is one thing with BMW, there are parts for it everywhere! If you take a close look at bmw’s history, you can see alot of faulty bikes, just like other brands! To think a BMW never break is a huge mistake mate😉 trust me! I have owned one

@Coldgecko

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen Hi Thomas. I totally respect your opinion -- and that is why I am trying to learn. My comments were only based on the facts that I have experienced -- nothing more. I have rode around the world in remote places on virtually every continent. 2 years ago I went from the very top of Columbia, South America to the very bottom, Ushuaia, Argentina on a 5 month ride. I am absolutely not brand loyal -- not at all. I only want the tool that is best for me -- KTM, BMW, Yamaha... Don't care. For South America or just crossing the USA Miami to Los Angeles or Canada, nothing is better than a R1200/R1250 for comfort and its a beast. For Miami to Thailand, it needed 60% off-road 40% pavement so F850GSA worked fine but its pretty heavy for some off-road ventures when I drop it and have to deal with that. For Miami to Cape Town, that is real important to ride a light bike -- I plan on 80% off-road and 20% asphalt once in Africa. So the KTM is light. But it's only a matter of fact -- nothing more -- 90% of world travelers are on BMW's. I have passed some KTM's in my years on the road in remote regions -- but many actually do have issues. I am not crapping on KTM at all... Just the fact as I have witnessed. But I was hoping that KTM is better now and why I am watching 790 videos.... Trying to learn if they are reliable because when in the middle of Central Africa, I really don't want any issues... That's all... Thanks for your comment... It's how I learn. Glad to see that you really believe in the 790 for reliability... I will keep watching. The virus is holding me back and hope to get on with this as soon as possible.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you have been doing some serious riding mate? I’m by no mean Brand loyal my self. I only pick the bike that are best for me and my driving at any given time 🔥 but do you think BMW are so much more reliable or do you think Long way around had something to do with everyone riding a BMW 🤣 i’m not sure, i just feel there is issues with every brands. BMW win’s on comfort any day of the week, i can second that. If you look at guys like rtwpaul who ride around the world on his ktm 500 you will Always find story’s like this. And i’m not getting close to any adventurs like this for myself. I represent more of the avarage joe who like adv riding and go on smaller adventures. So what would i pick if i had the chance to go on a 6 months adventure from north to south. To be honest, i would pick my 790 and do the best of it 🙈

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Love your comment and story mate! Nice to get into this kinda stuff with people and hear what they plan to do with their bikes! Really appreciate it mate, you are living my dream 👏🏻👏🏻

Would you sell it for the 890R

@tshansen

2 жыл бұрын

No, i would not sell it for the 890! It is the same bike, and it is just not worth the extra money. I sold it for a World Raid instead

@jackchristodoulou197

2 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen what’s a world Raid

@tshansen

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackchristodoulou197 Yamaha Tenere 700 world raid 🔥

Hi Thomas. Just driven my KTM 790 Adventure s 2.900 km and the rear suspension is ruined. No suspension in it more and I have not ridden my bike hard, no jumpings or anything hardcore like they say it can handle. I’m getting a new suspension from the KTM dealer but I’m not happy with the reliability of this bike. I just hope there won’t be any more problems.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

I heard some has issues with the rear suspension. And i do feel with you, but it was the same with the front suspension on my BMW R1200 GSA.... it was somehow broken from the factory, just took some time before i got the leakage and got it replaced on warranty. Most people dont have any problems with the bike mate 😊

@rthorarensen

3 жыл бұрын

Thomas Hansen, I know that every bike make can fail. Nothing is perfect. I have rented a 1250 gs for three days and it is the best bike I have ever ridden. But I also read that the reliability of BMW bikes is very poor only the Italian makes are worse. So I’m not so sure that the right thing would be to shift over to BMW. I really hate unreliable machines wether cars or motorbikes.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

@@rthorarensen Yeah, that is the problem now days.... what can you live with and what cant you live with. Minor stuff like the KTM 790 struggle with, i can live with... this far. I don't support KTM for not doing better quality checks before letting products on the market, but i see that if i would like to live my dream and enjoy my passion, i need tolook past small mistakes and minor issues. 😊

We're subscribed to a same guy 👌👍🏻 Every Single Sunday 😅

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

That guy know's how to ride 👏🏻Amazing to see people use the bikes in that way.

Im 168 cm, can get my foot down in this?

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

I would not bet money on it 😂👏🏻 i’m 200cm and fit well 😍

@sudhinkumars7940

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen i think you can touch the sky😂😂😂😂 Well if u get a chance to put a mahn around 168 cm check it he can or not.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, i would recommend you to try it yourself mate 😂🔥

@sudhinkumars7940

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen the problem is this...im in india...the 790 adv r is not even lauched in india..😁😁😁 May be soon happenging..

If you pay 14000 Euros for a bike the first 15000 km should be absolutely flawless! Everything else is unacceptable! Unfortunately this is seldom the case when you buying a KTM. Love the brand and the bikes but KTM have had me really disappointed over quality and customer service over the last 20 years. The problems for quite a few 790 owners should get the attention of the riding community or else KTM won’t do anything about it.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure how to answer that. If you look to other brands, maybe in the car industry, where you pay 4 x 5 times as much for a vehicle. still with even more errors and flaws across the board. Minor flaws are ok in my opinion 😊

@Checkyoursix77

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen Thomas you must be the dream customer for the vehicle industry! 😂 Minor flaws are. ok if the are solved in a good way and you as a customer gets compensated. Premium brands can’t have to much problems before they dilute their brand. I have owned several Japanese bikes with zero problems...

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

@@Checkyoursix77 Haha, we only have different views on what a issue or flaw is. A foggy display, faulty brakes etc or minor leakage of the brake reservoir is no problem, it get fixed on warranty. Think about how much work it is into one bike like this. You are doomed to have some errors or things that do stop working. Like with every tech, machine etc out there 🤣

@Checkyoursix77

3 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen You clearly haven’t been stranded in the Himalayan mountains on a new KTM with a faulty fuel pump...😉 The tech industry started to let their customers become test pilots and now our generation have accepted that as normal. Guess I’m a bit old school...

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

@@Checkyoursix77 Hahaha, that is correct... i have never experienced that. And i do believe that is a pain in the ass. But, this has happened with every brand. Look at the long way down journey and the BMW's.... I thing the "old school" is a bit wrong. Because if you look at statistic... there was WAY more faulty bikes back "then" 🤣 But, there is a reason people state that we are beta testers for the many companys out there.

After hearing the issues with KTM and lousy local dealer, I bought from Yamaha, genuine Japanese motorcycle.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Bluecamaroz28 yeah, a lousy local dealer would be a pain in the ass and reason to look elsewhere

400$ for oil and filters change? that's expensive :)

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha, you know they do more than just changing the oil right? 😂🔥

790's are for girls. Real men ride big, heavy, fully laden 1200+CC ADV bikes. FACT. 😂😂😂. P. S. Great video, as always, Thomas.

@tshansen

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha 🤣 and like the gentleman you are, ladies first right 👏🏻😂 thank you, appreciate it!

Awesome review, I really love my 790 as well!!

@tshansen

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you sir 🙏🏻

@Mysterious_Pancake

2 жыл бұрын

@@tshansen check out my channel some time. ADV Agenda !!!