Imagine if Atreus was here. Atreus: "You knew my father? What was he like?" Helios: "A huge dick."

@blackdemonknight

6 ай бұрын

Atreus: Why? Helios: You know how that other head with you asked for his head to be cut off? Atreus: Yeah Helios: I didn't ask to be just a head.

@henrykberonio9008

6 ай бұрын

​@@blackdemonknight Atreus: And Father Pull Your Head off for being a Liar and Trying to fool him? Mimir: Exactly Little brother he is going to fool Kratos to step in to the flames that could kill Kratos thanks to the freak you called Helios😅? Helios: and you two believe him too that freak is a disgrace to whole of Olympus? Kratos: That is Exactly what I Believe him and enough before you meet my Norse boots on your head again?

@florians9949

6 ай бұрын

@@henrykberonio9008Mimir: Concidering how you were, this is actually a compliment.

@garpogods8323

6 ай бұрын

A, quite literal, pain in the neck

@ssk58607

6 ай бұрын

It's a blessing that atreus isn't here lol

I love how much they respect the writing of old Kratos, not as a crazy killing machine but as a former general doing what he thought was right and eventually down the line letting his greif, pain, and lust for revenge cause the very same death and destruction to others as it did him.

@Mythodyn

6 ай бұрын

I'm sorry but that's some bullshit. Kratos was a psycho. We loved him for it since the Gods were all assholes but the idea that he didn't enjoy killing those cunts is just bullshit.

@Faithworks.

6 ай бұрын

Still was a killing machine

@undeadcommando5983

6 ай бұрын

Ares: I probably shouldn't have made him kill his family

@yellowcard8100

6 ай бұрын

There's so many people who think Kratos didn't have some depth back then. The first game literally starts with him attempting suicide.

@alpharensis7946

6 ай бұрын

He is a crazy killing machine in all gow 2 and 3 tho, only giving some care about the world when everyone in it die by killing himself

I love how even Tyr is annoyed by Helios

@Latitz

6 ай бұрын

Now imagine if it was Hermes.

@florians9949

6 ай бұрын

@@LatitzHeimdal: finally, a worthy opponent! Our asshole battle shall be legendary!

@night-x6793

6 ай бұрын

​@@LatitzIt was funny his big mouth was his doom which he could prevent if he just shut up.

@aryopuspito787

6 ай бұрын

@@florians9949 🤣🤣 they are beyond legendary

@favor8264

6 ай бұрын

​@@florians9949Heimdall and Hermes competing to be the greatest assholes

I love how Helios is like “You killed me and tore my head off. I can be as fucking grouchy as I want!”

@frederickdawson2253

5 ай бұрын

Every right.... I say the same with Heimdall... He was a dick but everything he said was right

@Jeezes718

5 ай бұрын

​@@frederickdawson2253 Whether he was right or not isn't really the point, Heimdall kept threatening to kill Atreus, straight to Kratos' face. Helios was barbarism, but Heimdall, he was given a chance, a choice. He chose to rile Kratos up solely because he viewed Kratos as lesser, and because he always wanted to kill Atreus.

@frederickdawson2253

5 ай бұрын

@@Jeezes718 I'm sorry did what I say contradict that? I SAID that what he SAID was right, that has nothing to do with his ACTIONS... EVERYTHING he said about Atreus and Thruud was correct. But since you want to make that point, dude did have a right to try to kill Atreus. Atreus for fortold to to not only end his way of living but to destroy his home, his realm. He had a right to want him dead. Technically he wasn't given a choice... As much as they keep saying it in the game.. it was ultimatum. "You left my son live which will kill a lot of your people, your home, way of life, and realm or you die". A war is two people trying to prove which way is right, which is "the winner decides history". So yea I believe you're wrong about not only what I said but in what you said

@Jeezes718

5 ай бұрын

@frederickdawson2253 My you're touchy. I never contradicted whether or not what you said was correct or not, so your little tangent was pointless.

@MechWarrior894

5 ай бұрын

They seem to have forgotten that Helios tried to gaslight Kratos into touching the Flame of Olympus, which would have killed him.

I’m happy they got Crispin Freeman back to voice Helios, even if it was pretty brief. Love hearing that dude show up in stuff.

@OasisLand00

6 ай бұрын

Wait, it's the same VA from God of war 3?? :0

@Garrus1995

6 ай бұрын

@@OasisLand00 Yes.

@LATEXXJUGGERNUT

6 ай бұрын

Same, Crispen Freeman is so damn talented, he's been doing some pretty cool stuff like pokemon and FF7 Vincent Valentine, and back in the day he was Alucard from Hellsing Ultimate... he also did *Kaito* for the Yakuza games.

@OasisLand00

6 ай бұрын

@@LATEXXJUGGERNUT holy crap you're right it IS him reprising his role as Helios! I kinda like how he speaks here in the DLC compared to the little small dialogue he had in 3. Unexpected to see him act like Hermes lol. Sarcastic Asshole xD

@Survivingcrafter1808

6 ай бұрын

Yes same dude from 3 and alucard love this dudes voice

“I know this…” “You remember this Kratos. The memory is vivid. A familiar scene to any that know your legend. A man at the crossroads of a fateful decision.” “Aye, you’ve spoken of this brother… *the woman you put in some gears, to keep a gate from closing too quickly.* “

@ethanstackhouse7274

6 ай бұрын

"It was..... necessary"

@Mir.Hammal.Baluch

6 ай бұрын

@@ethanstackhouse7274 necessary indeed. Not many people understand

@finger3306

6 ай бұрын

​@@Mir.Hammal.Baluchit wasn't really 😂 he probably could have done all he needed without murdering helios

@zzodysseuszz

6 ай бұрын

The funniest part is that he spent multiple puzzles keeping her alive for the sole purpose of luring her to that gear 😂

@tenou213

6 ай бұрын

@@Broskisnowski one could also drive from the backseat of a car using their feet. That doesn't mean it's the best way to do so or that disaster won't occur.

the fact that he was able to nearly break and or bend the bars while in Valhalla is insane since that cage was never meant to be broken/bent just shows how ridiculously strong kratos is.

@thecommentguy9380

5 ай бұрын

He wasnt supposed to pry open valhalla's door either, but that didnt stop him

@JunSkye

5 ай бұрын

Uh we already know he is strong

@Bazzbunny

5 ай бұрын

Kratos strength + trying to save his bestest friend. The adrenaline must have caused him to be a super god

@Jester4460

5 ай бұрын

He’s like hulk his power is technically infinite

@GiveMeTheRice

5 ай бұрын

The fire was melting the cage, he only started bending it after that was happening

I laughed when Mimir said Kratos' technique (for beheading) has improved immeasurably; from a slow and agonizing dismemberment to a clean and swift execution. If that's not character development, then I don't know what is.

@zsu-23-4shilka2

5 ай бұрын

Helios when Kratos took his head: “The fuck are you doing?!? No! Noooo!!! *_NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAA-“_* Mimir some time after being brought back from the same situation: “Man, I feel like telling the best stories & riddles you’ve ever heard.”

@thehermit8618

5 ай бұрын

In a way it also economically and effectively shows his development. From an angry soldier seeking vengeance not caring how many he has to gore to get it, to an experienced warrior tempered by wisdom, cleanly and efficiently taking the best path forward, and cutting one if need be

@pauloazuela8488

5 ай бұрын

​@@thehermit8618Also glory seeking general.

@alt1763

5 ай бұрын

@@zsu-23-4shilka2 tbf mimir was also stuck to a tree

@fadillah6014

5 ай бұрын

@@alt1763 did the tree grow in him or just trap outside him, I meant why not just destroy the tree bit by bit?

Do they ever talk about how Kratos used "Poseidon's Princess" to act as a temporary door stop (or lever stop) which ultimately ripped her to pieces? I feel that kill should be talked about more. At least Helios was a fighting combatant trying to stop Kratos, so him getting killed was not entirely unwarranted.

@papanurgle8393

6 ай бұрын

It's even worse given that Kratos saved his life *and* he tried to trick him into killing himself.

@LuanJaguarREAL

6 ай бұрын

It was a based move from Classic ( Greek ) Masculine Kratos. if it was Old (Norse) Weak Soft Kratos hed be like "oh sure my princess, i will try to save you my highness" and they both would be trapped & destroyed in the chambers. And why would a fem's life matter, you all are woke softie soys nowadays hahah :D

@jcn716

6 ай бұрын

​@@LuanJaguarREALi do hope you're joking

@maddycheeze

6 ай бұрын

​@jcn716 I looked at his channel... he is not.

@OXY187

6 ай бұрын

​@@LuanJaguarREAL ahhh a fellow greece saga fan

"He is bitter isnt he?" Mimir. His head was torn off, not cut, torn ripped from his shoulders by kratos via brute strength it was easily the most brutal dwsth in all the games, and to top it off his death cause the death of virtually every living being in greece. Id say hes got more than enoigh reason to be bitter.

@shanedancer3895

6 ай бұрын

I don’t think his death beats Poseidon, Zeus, Cronos, Hades, Prometheus, Hercules, probably at least a couple more gods I’m not remembering, and a decent chunk of the random enemies. He rips the wings off harpies, rips the ghoul dudes in half, rips the eye out of cyclops, triple beheads three headed dogs, and probably many more executions that are worse than just getting your head ripped off

@Artwolf007

6 ай бұрын

More brutal than poseiden?

@KratosSuffering

6 ай бұрын

Poseidon, Hercules, Zeus, Cronos:

@palmabolp

6 ай бұрын

Yea I'd be pretty bitter if my head was ripped off and used as a literal flashlight

@henrykberonio9008

6 ай бұрын

Kratos Cut Mimir's head off as a Request better play God Of War 2018 Kratos did not torn Mimir's head off Mimir Ask Kratos To Cutoff his Head off and getting revived by Freya

Love how kratos knew exactly what would happen! It screams how vengeful and hateful his former self was. Not caring about anything other than his vengeance.

@LoneSWarrior

6 ай бұрын

He felt his vengeance was an ends justifying the means sort of deal. He merely got lost in transit when innocence was muddled with his path while justifying his end goal of stopping the greek gods from ruining the lives of people for eternity, consequences be damned for making their curse seem like a blessing of the natural order not being from the universe, but the will of gods that shared no empathy, no sympathy, not even compassion for the consequences of their actions, much like Kratos.

@giantninja9173

5 ай бұрын

If you go back and watch some of the cutscenes from the old series he relents multiple times. His face softens and he starts to look sad. It only lasts a second before a god says something about his wife/daughter/brother/other failings and he goes back to psycho mode. He even passed up Hera because she wasn’t a threat anymore until she made it personal again.

Helios was definitely right about Ares. Especially since as bad as Kratos was in the past, Ares was much worse.

@Madheim777

6 ай бұрын

And Ares own cruelty was what destroyed him

@aldimrmr4108

6 ай бұрын

In the Ares is same to Hades they are the decent gods in the phanteon

@JuwanBuchanan

6 ай бұрын

People still forgot how much Ares is a huge reason why Kratos became a monster. Ares needed him to become the monster that would destroy Olympus and he succeeded in making young Kratos into that monster.

@aldimrmr4108

6 ай бұрын

I mean in the mythology not the game version

@godzillazfriction

6 ай бұрын

​@@JuwanBuchanani am not letting this be the narrative of Kratos changing because of Ares... Kratos was a problem himself and he hates himself for it because of that... what Spartan would try to sell his soul in order to gain victory, plus there's already a point where Kratos was already ruthless before Ares showed up, it's why Ares took such interest in him when Kratos and other champions that the Gods chose for the retrieval of the Ambrosia

Its so nice seeing Kratos treat others as friends and have this development... Really nice.

@DHGxMcFlurry

6 ай бұрын

And care about people outside of immediate close friends/family. Even regular people can feel safe and see his good graces now

@Complete_Stranger7050

6 ай бұрын

And he just listens to helios bullshits instead of dicing his head into 100 pieces, true character development

@SpyGatoACatsEyeView.

6 ай бұрын

​@@Complete_Stranger7050bro he tried to burn Helios alive but ok

@SpyGatoACatsEyeView.

6 ай бұрын

I agree kratos has the best character development

@Neonic13

6 ай бұрын

Bro I loved kratos talking to mimir about his love life

Are you kidding me those throw-backs to the Original Trilogy are incredible? I never would have expected something like that from the DLC

@zsu-23-4shilka2

5 ай бұрын

And it’s free! Merry Christmas.

@TheMilhouseExperience

5 ай бұрын

Remember old God of War? I wish Sony would. Remaster them and put them out for modern consoles

@AS.Se7en

5 ай бұрын

Santa Monica studio is the best

@joaoborgesrodriguesalves6554

5 ай бұрын

@@TheMilhouseExperience i dont know about 1 and 2,but im pretty sure 3 is remastered for the ps4

@detectivemadoka69420

5 ай бұрын

1, 2, Chains of Olympus and Ghost of Sparta are all remastered for PS3.

I really appreciate how Tyr comforts Kratos at the end. He made what seemed to be the best decision available to him at the time. Whether it was foolish or not in the long run is irrelevant, as in that moment he couldn't have possibly known, so he cannot be held at fault for it

@kizhe240

6 ай бұрын

It really was his only choice. He could either die and let Sparta die with it or win with the only option he had. Kratos obviously wasn't a bad general, if he lost a battle, I doubt he had many other options. I don't even know if I could call it foolish, I'd say it was the smartest choice if you value your people and were in that position.

@joshuashaw8752

5 ай бұрын

Uh, Tyr literally says the exercise is not about forgiveness or fault. Kratos still has to hold himself at fault, just not more so than he actually is at fault. It's not about excusing himself it's about understanding that his role going forward can change for the better and he is not limited to the mistakes of the past. What is the point of growing from experience if you remove all moral culpability on the basis of ignorance? He absolutely can be held at fault, but he is choosing to not allow his guilt to excuse him from responsibility.

@Baphelon

5 ай бұрын

@@joshuashaw8752 thanks for the explanation, that makes sense

@joshuashaw8752

5 ай бұрын

@@Baphelon No problem, tbh I think this is what most people mean when they say "can't be held at fault" but I think it's important to distinguish 'it wasn't my fault' from 'it was my fault but I can accept that a worthwhile person like myself would make that decision, and forgive it, and do better"

@Baphelon

5 ай бұрын

@@joshuashaw8752 yea exactly, I think that's what I meant but you're right that the distinction is important. One is an excuse, and the other is you learning from your mistakes

Can we just take a moment to appreciate how the backgrounds are so faithful to the og games??

@kamehamehadi

6 ай бұрын

I thought i was the only one too who noticed, its such cool little detail TRUE god of war fans will notice especially when you enter the first door

That Kratos respond to Helios request to say Hello basically mean he had developed, however slight, a sense of humor. Tyr really did a good job.

@ChuckPalomo

6 ай бұрын

And then he went right back to trying to sacrifice him to open a door, showing how little he had really changed deep down.

@zelnickno.2348

6 ай бұрын

​@@ChuckPalomoand then the next time he sacrificed himself and accepted his past, letting him change even furthe

Tyr catching Krato's fade with one hand and saying "alright, i think thats enough" is so badass

@blair5475

6 ай бұрын

who would win 1v1?

@darkranger116

6 ай бұрын

@@blair5475 imho, i dont think its coincidence that Tyr and Kratos are both not only survivors of the end times across the pantheons, but are also both Gods of War. I dont usually make neutral statements, but honestly think they might be tied, like a vegeta and goku situation. I think theres even a chance that the devs might get cheeky and have a Tyr DLC at some point. Maybe as a call back DLC when they're in the middle of the Egypt arc and we're nostalgic for the snow.

@mr.smithgnrsmith7808

5 ай бұрын

His fade? Douche chilling

@nathanjohnston9762

5 ай бұрын

​@@blair5475​Didn't you see the video? Tyr won. A true warrior doesn't just fight. They understand their enemy, and if possible, they use deception and diplomacy to stop the fight before it does harm. Tyr is the true god of war because the knows the art of war.

@General_C

5 ай бұрын

​@@darkranger116I hesitate to say Goku and Vegeta are tied now, but I'm also not caught up on the Manga... Though historically, Goku's always had a leg up againat Vegeta, and even when he's the weaker of the duo, it never lasts for very long.

So basically, Kratos is going through therapy

@JCShady98

6 ай бұрын

The question is Why did it take so long ? My man Kratos went through hell (no pun). In GOW 3 when he sacrificed himself ... I thought atleast he's free now . But he can't die ,atleast my boy deserves some peace 😢....

@Critick3000

6 ай бұрын

@@JCShady98because therapy begins with admitting you want to heal

@orrthehunter

6 ай бұрын

@@JCShady98 He spent his entire time running from his problems. It is only now he is willing to face them head on.

@lenny_boxx4206

6 ай бұрын

​@@JCShady98because his story arc in Norse GoW is that he's been hiding and running away from his internal problems but its in Valhalla he was able to face them head on with friends that help him improve as a person

@boatymcboatface4120

6 ай бұрын

Man will literally destroy an entire pantheon before going to therapy

Pretty much all of the gods killed in GoW3 were only ripped apart after they insulted Kratos further. Smart move from Hermes in particular with 2 broken legs and crawling away, only to taunt Kratos. Helios used his sun powers to try and blind or cook Kratos, forcing him to end it by ripping his head off. Hephastos could have lived but decided to become a boss fight instead, Hera chose to be drunk that day, Athena was cool with the vengeance until she changed her mind, etc etc.

@BonzerMrT

6 ай бұрын

The tragedy of the Gods has always been themselves. Their hubris is their ruin

@dextray

6 ай бұрын

I wonder what happened to Aphrodite since she was the only apparent god to be spared

@Madheim777

6 ай бұрын

@@dextray also apollo

@Skarrier

6 ай бұрын

​​@@Madheim777...and Artemis. I suppose those folks are the only gods who survived Kratos' rampage. After all, none of them insulted or opposed Kratos in any way, so it makes sense.

@Madheim777

6 ай бұрын

@@Skarrier true, forgot about her

"imagine if all of your new friends knew how you used to treat your old friends" hits hard when the old group disbanded

@temkin9298

5 ай бұрын

Friends who gave him endless nightmare so cruel, he chose to die only to be denied.

@TonyStark-fm2li

5 ай бұрын

more like dismembered

@waki_hack3359

5 ай бұрын

@@TonyStark-fm2li dismembered means you pulled a limb like goro from mkx fatality

@JugularJohn

4 ай бұрын

I genuinely wish my ex best friend who cut ties with me and said all the years we’ve had together means nothing to him now had his new friends realize how he treated his previous friends.

“BEHOLD THE GLORY OF HELIOS!!!! Feel the wrath of the Sun!” Probably my favorite phrases in all of GoW

@zsu-23-4shilka2

5 ай бұрын

Helios (drunk off malice & booze: *_”FEEL THE POWER OF THE SUN!!!”_* Mimir: “Feel the power of these horns in your fooken eyes!” Kratos (just chillin’ with good book in hand): “This is good comedy.”

all of Helios dialog is so funny tho, even if it meant to guilt trip Kratos

@anthonypreston8355

6 ай бұрын

Honestly he said so much I thought it was Hermies rather then Helios

@weavorjjohanna5619

6 ай бұрын

@@anthonypreston8355 the first time i heard it i thought i was Heimdall because the voice actor unintentionally nailed Heimdall mannerism

@anthonypreston8355

6 ай бұрын

@@weavorjjohanna5619 true Hermes was more snarky

@shagarumedic

5 ай бұрын

I honestly got kinda annoyed by Helios, whenever I made it to the Proving Grounds I was always sad to see Mimir leave

“Can’t you muster up a hello for one of your most auspicious victims?!” “Hello Helios. Where is mimir?” Did… did my boy just try to crack a joke…?!

@WarFoxThunder

6 ай бұрын

LOL FR

Sigrun saving Kratos and Mimir is awesome. Love that shit, we save her now she saves us. Also I love how bitter and Sassy Helios is.

@GenshinLover283

5 ай бұрын

You'd be bitter too if you had your head ripped off and used as a glorified flashlight lol

@shagarumedic

5 ай бұрын

Sigrun the GOAT

@tacticallemon7518

5 ай бұрын

@@GenshinLover283 and then not even mentioned the next time your beheader cleans a pantheon

Yeah, Helios was one of the few that didn't really do anything to deserve such a death. "I needed his power" = "i needed a lamp"

@nathanwhiting5475

5 ай бұрын

He probably wouldn't have beaten Kronos without that lamp tho. Would have been crushed.

@genericoeimprovisado1287

5 ай бұрын

@@nathanwhiting5475 yes, but he didn't knew that at the moment 👉👉

@nathanwhiting5475

5 ай бұрын

@@genericoeimprovisado1287 He knew he needed the power. Not exactly how in that moment, sure. But he knew he needed every advantage to kill the corrupt gods of olympus.

@genericoeimprovisado1287

5 ай бұрын

@@nathanwhiting5475 yes, but specifically a God's head? Like, he got tools from all Gods and knew he needed Helios' head?

@alastor8091

5 ай бұрын

He completely deserved his death. He was offered mercy and chose to try and kill Kratos by lying. Hell, Kratos wasn't even set on killing him then.

Love how they remade the scene 1 to 1 where Kratos has to make a sacrifice in order to open a door in Pandoras temple by placing the cage and then fry whoever is inside, brings back so much memories

The shock and panic he had to save Mimir was quite heart warming and endearing 😅lol everyone loves Mimir lmfao 🤣

the GREEK pantheon lecturing Kratos for the wellbeing of mankind is insane

@lumberluc

6 ай бұрын

Agreed. They literally killed and tortured people out of their own amusement or petty vengeance.

@jaylil3614

6 ай бұрын

crazy work

@osmaniesquijarosa4308

6 ай бұрын

To be fair, most Greek gods were pretty chill. Zeus, Poseidon, Apollo, and Eros were the only real menaces that went around violating people. Hera and Aphrodite might’ve been cruel, but it was only out of jealousy, not some innate need to fuck with humans.

@lumberluc

6 ай бұрын

@@osmaniesquijarosa4308 Hades is on the list, but he did it out of love for his wife. When the hero, Theseus, decided to go with Perithous to take the wife of Hades-Persephone, Hades tricked the two mortals into taking seats of forgetfulness from which they could not get up until Heracles came to rescue them. I mean... he is there, but he wanted to make an example out of 2 idiots by saying "F*** with my wife, and I will F*** you up!"

@osmaniesquijarosa4308

6 ай бұрын

@@lumberluc I mean yeah, is that supposed to make him a bad guy? That’s not list worthy at all, he’s a god, his wife is a goddess, they are due respect, far more than any mortal king.

When they gave us the Blade of Olympus back, I was like, “oh, this is cool, I wish I could use it in the main game, too.” And then when I beat Valhalla it said I could use it in ng+ and I was like :O

5:36 Technically, this statement is wrong. It wasn't Morpheus who captured Helios, it was the titan Atlas who captured the God of the Sun. If anything, Morpheus just took advantage of the situation when the sun fell from the sky shortly after Atlas escaped from Tartarus, (thanks to the aid of Persephone,) by plunging the world in a black fog of slumber.

@crystallinehearts8805

6 ай бұрын

Right? They couldnt even get their own lore correct in an official game.

@Karma-fb6ms

6 ай бұрын

@@crystallinehearts8805ya, the lore is full of plot holes

@hehehe88

6 ай бұрын

Various versions of the myth exists. Stories like these would change with publishing and the times; sometimes even the gods would change, like how Aphrodite was worshipped as a god of war in Sparta when she first was introduced to Greece, under the epithet "Areas Aphrodite". No statues still stand, but the plaques still remain. Often what we think is concrete is only the best preserved, or the last change made.

@Karma-fb6ms

6 ай бұрын

@@hehehe88 god of war is very separate from Greek mythology, also are you saying that the devs/directors done this on purpose? If so, then that would’v been bad for story having plot holes, plus the franchise is already lost in their own lore

@tenjenk

6 ай бұрын

A distinction without relevance. People would hardly maintain technicalities like that when recalling events unless they ere a historian. It's why stories get mutated over time.

I love that Kratos has come so far and evolved so much that seeing him interact with people and things from his past feels like a crossover event from another world even when speaking to his younger self

So this dlc is pretty much kratos going to therapy

@im_rigbum4938

6 ай бұрын

yea

@jdrvargo287

5 ай бұрын

Dude needs it.

Can you really blame Helios?

@lunatic557

6 ай бұрын

Um yeas, he owned debt because Kratos saved him from Atlas.

@ExoticXOXO

6 ай бұрын

@@lunatic557 and Helios saved Kratos so they're even

@Aydamir06

6 ай бұрын

@@ExoticXOXOalso kratos tried to conquer helios’ city

@ExoticXOXO

6 ай бұрын

@@Aydamir06 not trying to sound like a troll but Helio still saved him

@mat7083

6 ай бұрын

Helios Helios Heli-OS

This shows something that happens to everyone. You make a decision in the moment because you don't have the time to think it through carefully and everyone blames you for making the decision because they have the luxury to think about the decision and always refuse to understand that. If a decision comes along and you dwell on it for too long it will be gone before you come to your conclusion and who can say what the other choices would have brought with them.

@fernandolombardi4701

5 ай бұрын

​@@wolfman210 Bro he was following the gods orders when he killed is family, and when he seeks forgiveness from the gods they just troll him

Still cant get over the fact he killed helios just to use him as a flashlight 😂

@fusiontoa18

6 ай бұрын

Atleast he didnt use him as a fleshlight

@Bovahkiin_

6 ай бұрын

@@fusiontoa18 the only question i want answered

@GenshinLover283

5 ай бұрын

And Helios has every right to be bitter about it lol

@darthcerebus

5 ай бұрын

Helios did kind of deserve it. He tries to convince Kratos to kill himself by jumping in the Flame of Olympus, and then tries to blind/burn him after it's revealed he already knows it would do that, AFTER he begged for Kratos to save him again. Helios entirely deserved it.

@SimplymeSVEN18

5 ай бұрын

@@darthcerebus Are you forgetting the part where Kratos shot Helios out of the sky (while he was fighting Perses and didn't even bother Kratos in the slightest) and right into the hands off said Titan resulting in him getting crushed and yeeted into the city? How do you think Helios ended up hemorrhaging on the ground with broken legs etc in the first place? Kratos was in the wrong there, not Helios.

“I needed his power to secure vengeance against the gods.” _You used him as a flashlight!_

@onlyacomentarynothingspeci2419

5 ай бұрын

But wasnt his Power needed?!

@donalddudd

4 ай бұрын

Cronus would have crushed Kratos if he didn't have Helios's head to blind him.

I've never had such instant tears as when I realized the winged being was not a dark elf but a burning Sigrun, come to save her love. I haven't watched GoW content since shortly after the JackSepticEye series ended when the vanilla game released, so that was a touching flood of emotions.

Kratos literally tried throwing the Blades off a mountain and they still came back

@am1na1996

6 ай бұрын

But he didn't have to use it. That is literally the whole emotional weight of Kratos picking up the weapon again in the first game. Ok, you can say that it is necessary to save Atreus, an innocent life who should not die because of Kratos guilt, but what about after that?

@XtreemAlan

6 ай бұрын

@@am1na1996 only difference when he used them this time was that he used them to save his son, unlike what he did when he first got them

@Birbboy.

6 ай бұрын

@@XtreemAlan but, did he needed to keep using it?

@gamongames

6 ай бұрын

The whole point of that scene was to show that his whole problem with the blades was that they made him Ares' and Atena's monster. He accepted himself as a monster, just not theirs anymore.

@bonelesschickennuggets1868

6 ай бұрын

⁠”The Blades story are still being written, eventually new generations will come to their own conclusions whether the Blades where weapons of senseless violence or righteousness” This is addressed in Ragnarök, Kratos embracing the blades is basically a step to acceptance of his past and use that power for goodness, the things pretty much saved Kratos and Atreus life more than twice in Helheim and in his final fight with Baldur. It’s not about pretending the past didn’t exist or shy away from it, but embracing it and finding new purpose for them, the Blades are essentially a big metaphor for Kratos redemption arc

5:04 I'm seriously confused. Helios was not captured by Morpheous (the god of dreams) in Chains of Olympus. They tried to make it look like that at the beginning of the game but, they later revealed the twist that, it was actually the titan Atlas and Persephone.

@furanduron4926

6 ай бұрын

Guess they forgor

@robertlawrence8445

6 ай бұрын

kratos is forgetful in his old age

@joshuahiltpold248

6 ай бұрын

did helios ever know that though? maybe thats why

@bonelesschickennuggets1868

6 ай бұрын

Kratos forgot his medication this day

@omensoffate

6 ай бұрын

These devs just making shit up

"i yield kratos" yeah right, hard to believe it with that one hand grab block you did.

@AbysmalRandomn3ss

6 ай бұрын

lol right. Even more to tyr than people think.

@CaptainPrincess

6 ай бұрын

I mean he literally did yield though like you know it doesnt mean "youve forced me to quit" it just means "I stop fighting and give you the win"

Having the actual voice of Helios coming back is +1 for me :)

Helios still in Helheim after his death lol 😂

@Knightofthenight_7

6 ай бұрын

Where is Hermes Hades and Hercules?

@G1Grimlock94

6 ай бұрын

Somewhere

@Cee-rn4xb

6 ай бұрын

@@Knightofthenight_7maybe I’m the Egypt realm of the dead

@xotiic4525

6 ай бұрын

Fr😂

@trihermawan9553

6 ай бұрын

This is not a real Helios, this is Kratos's projection of Helios based on his memories

4:10 “he is bitter isn’t he?” Uh yeah I think being bitter is pretty fucking understandable in this situation

4:02 Tyr: Aaaaand he’s back..🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ Me: I know he’s absolutely bitter🙄🙄🙄

Sometimes, brining back old characters in a multitude means that the story is heading in a new direction and a sort of summary is in order

So Kratos is doing therapy, that's great

The fact that Sigrun came back to save Kratos and Mimir is really nice. She returned the favor after we saved her from Odin's control... by brutally beating her to death and tearing her wings off.

Great to see how much he cares about mimir, after all the adventures they've had

5:31 Walking pass the pots is wild

Those Tyr fights are already iconic definitely my top 3 if you include all 4

I love how these games give the ancillary characters their own moments to shine. Most DLC's would have had Sigrun as a Vendor with 4-5 recycled "Let's get you geared up" lines.And that Kratos finally found an Pantheon worth serving with.

Valhalla is essentially one giant thetapy session.

Tyr be like:"can this MF turn off his goddamn MOUTH!!!"

even the norse gods cant stand helios, they probs dont blame kratos for what happened if THIS is the only greek god they met and spoke too 😂

@nicknamed1267

6 ай бұрын

In his defense, I'd be pissed too if some fella legit ripped my head off just to use it as a flashlight lol. You'd probably hear me complaining a little there.

@thomasallen9974

6 ай бұрын

Tbf, Mimir did say that the Greek Gods as a pantheon had it coming. Which implied that at the very least the Norse ones did not view the Greek ones favorably

@osmaniesquijarosa4308

6 ай бұрын

@@thomasallen9974no, he said from what he’s HEARD, they had it coming.

@serpent-x

6 ай бұрын

​@@thomasallen9974 Hes not wrong tho, the Greek gods have done a crazy ton of messed up stuff, as well as most of them being narcissists.

@stephenjenkins7971

5 ай бұрын

@@serpent-x I mean, if you read about Kratos' story, a lot of people believe that Kratos has worse coming too.

"I'll give you this, brother, your technique has improved immeasurably" - Mimir after seeing how Kratos butchered Helios' neck

1:32 it was so emotional

I feel like this is one big teaser and that they might do a remake of the earlier games which I DESPERATELY want to happen. The younger Kratos looked so good in this game and having the old voice actor back from the old games sets it up nicely. I know people want Kratos in Egypt, so do I, but maybe we could get the remakes after?

@ChangedMyNameFinally69

5 ай бұрын

I don't like that they're gonna milk the franchise again, was kinda hoping the Norse saga would end it considering the Norse were the last major pagan religion before Christianity spread to Europe and they described going to the Norse religion as an "BC-AD transition". It's weird Kratos is gonna go backwards to a long dead religion instead, even by the height of the Greeks the Egyptians were irrelevant. I'd really rather them be ballsy and do Christianity next.

@thatonejoey1847

5 ай бұрын

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 they ain't touching Christianity the religion itself, that's a line they would never cross unless its with the most respect possible. It's just basic buissness, why release a product which could alienate a big chunk of your consumer base and have no new audience to replace it with when you can just not do it.

@thatonejoey1847

5 ай бұрын

@@wolfman210 there is a difference between pro whatever and tackling a delicate subject with the delicate touch of a sledgehammer. A realistic Christian God of war game would be Jesus and Kratos tag teaming to defeat the legions of Nephilem and Goetian demons of hell commanded by lucifer trying to awaken the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse and to start a second war in heaven. Anything else wouldn't make sense considering Christian mythos, and twisting it around wouldn't be Christianity anymore, it would be some poor bootleg attempt so far removed that youtubers would make like 3 hour documentaries explaining everything wrong

@ChangedMyNameFinally69

5 ай бұрын

@@wolfman210 Yeah but that just feels like horizontal progression instead of vertical progression

@wolfman210

5 ай бұрын

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 IDK I'm kind of interested in seeing how they'd touch on the really fucked up parts of religions like the Aztec. Especially with the current Kratos who isn't really big on the sacrificing innocent people to appease asshole gods thing anymore.

*Raises Helios' head* Kratos: "eyy Mimir I got a little friend for ya"

Considering that Helios is Greek God in Greek mythology but his design and looks in this DLC looks like a Roman Which is weird

@GameMaster0025

6 ай бұрын

So right after Kratos gave up hope to the humanity took over so that's my theory on the Roman Pantheon so the Roman Pantheon is the Greek Pantheon

@donlalo2002

6 ай бұрын

It's as if the Romans fashioned themselves after the Greeks?

@seraphsilent5255

6 ай бұрын

the roman gods ARE the greek gods, just renamed

@user-xw5xo3bv1n

6 ай бұрын

@@donlalo2002 but more effective and united.

@Horrorcrusher8312

6 ай бұрын

​@@seraphsilent5255But there are a few unique to Rome's Pantheon, at least one I know about would be Janus.

Kratos : Enough truth for today

0:18 LEAVE ME ALONE (akıra akıra) AAAAA

- Siren, Minotaur and the Cyclops returned as enemies - The Blade of Olympus returned - Kratos classic look is now a legitimate in game outfit - Helios returned to roast Kratos about his past This DLC is pure fan service to the OG fans. But also a great way to fill in the new fans on what happened in the previous series. And most importantly.... IT WAS FREE

When Tyr said "An infamous act. One they still spoke of in the years of rebuilding." Is he implying that mean Greece is still around?

@germanyballwork5301

6 ай бұрын

They greek gods just respawned as the pantheon of the eternal city.

@blaze_4280

6 ай бұрын

Or they became the Romans since uk they are essentially the same gods id say they'd probably explain it like Zeus was reborn as a being called Jupiter and so on and so forth just a theory or afterthought

@jaller114

6 ай бұрын

@@blaze_4280 Would be very cool, especially since the fate of gods that were not part of Kratos' revenge is unknown. I wonder if the surviving gods basically recreated the Pantheon and someone else took the name of Jupiter

Kratos has a MASSIVE redemption arc. He WAS a despicable POS. He is now a really good dude.

@fusiontoa18

6 ай бұрын

A Boring good dude

@amberanime

5 ай бұрын

@@fusiontoa18 Boring to you maybe. I found Kratos of the original 3 games very boring. This version that actualy grows and matures and learns and inspires is far more interesting. To each their own I suppose.

@Davesknd

5 ай бұрын

"Good" He saw a cage that would burn the person inside and his first instinct was to toss the guy he had already killed once and who literally not a threat or obstacle in any way inside to burn them alive. Kratos hasn't changed. He has just no cause at the moment, but give him the slightest provocation or obstacle, and he will slaughter.

@fusiontoa18

5 ай бұрын

@@amberanime ah atleast he was passionate, had some personality, a clear goal. Some spirit ya know. I agree he Grows and matures to be more boring sure. Just grunts most of the time. Just along for the ride, no agency. Idk man gow3 kratos was Peak kratos for me. What a ride that was. What came after is just boring in comparison

@dakotamabry1645

5 ай бұрын

​@fusiontoa18 I love all the God of War games but the old games did show Kratos was far more empathetic and he got more angrier , jaded and sadistic over time .. I played the spin offs too . The hardest scene for me is he finally rejoins with his daughter... and has to risk never seeing her again to kill persephone in order to stop her from destroying the Greek version of heaven . You have to button mash like Kratos really strains himself to push away his daughter as she's begging him to not leave, she also never knew he killed her .. legit cried not gonna lie

Yeah I remembered God of War 3 and the chaos and all. It was fun.

“I wanted a flashlight but was too lazy to change batteries”

Not watching as I don't wannna spoil myself too much but the fact all this and the entire rogue-like mode is in a free DLC is just insane to me

I hope mimir gets a body in the next game. So he could beat sigrun's cheeks 😎

@thomasallen9974

6 ай бұрын

Second this, Mimir needs to be able to get some of that again

@doodtheman2508

6 ай бұрын

He's still great head at least

1:10 biggest kratos mistake here

finally i think this DLC really puts a redemption on his consequence in the OG God of war it really shows that he knew what he was doing but still he was doing it for vengence

I was a bit confused by why Sigrun and the other Valkyries couldn't go in when they technically have died, that's what Freya said only those have died can go into Valhalla. Sigrun and the others were killed in 2018's game wouldn't that mean they've died before since they're in new bodies after Freya restored them. I could be misremembering but I feel like that would count

7:26 HE SAYS THE THING

This whole DLC feels like the Kratos apology tour

@davidgreen3001

5 ай бұрын

It's so weak and pathetic I hate it.

Ma boy Crispin with that crispy clean voice again.

It broke my heart when Kratos put Helios/Mimir on the fire cage. Kratos still hasn’t learned at all.

@Madheim777

6 ай бұрын

Tbh it was a good move by Tyr or the Valhalla. Kratos wasn't ready yet to forgive the past, and reflected on the consequences against loved people. When you see Kratos doing the opposite, not putting Helios and instead entering himself, he was ready to continue.

@anjaneyasreetrout2444

6 ай бұрын

TBF he had absolutely no idea about where Mimir went after Helios arrived. I don't think "sacrificing" an asshole like Helios would be a problem for anyone tbh

@destroreal

6 ай бұрын

@@anjaneyasreetrout2444 the problem isn't who its being done with, its the action itself. Do you really think a person sacrificing someone else in a fire cage, just for their own good, is by any means acceptable? Yes, Helios was a dick and maybe would still be if he was still actually alive, but he still was a living being.

@n4n4sh1_

6 ай бұрын

Well Kratos knows he must be a creation of his mind, is not really Helios

@anjaneyasreetrout2444

6 ай бұрын

@@destroreal Yes. In most cases, it would be very unacceptable. But the Greek gods can be considered "exceptional" cases lol

i love how Helios is always "BUT BITCH YOU KILLED ME AND FOT WHAT!?"

Only now noticed just how fuckin tall sigrun is..kratos looks like a dwarf next to her lol

kratos entering PTSD session in valhalla

I want to watch this SO BADLY..but I must wait till Christmas because I think imma get Ragnarok for Christmas

Fun fact: helios’ voice actor is also the one who does sundowner from metal gear Just like the Good Ol' Days after The Titanomachy!

@Grupucc

5 ай бұрын

No frickin way! But now you mention it i can hear a slight sundowner there!

7:37 Kratos: "Is he Necessary?" 🤣🤣

The reference to Chains of Olympus was so meaningful to me, it was the first videogame I ever played all those years back when I got a PSP. I haven't played GoW 2018 or Ragnarok, but I'm glad to see this is what we're getting nowadays.

I do not understand why Kratos claims Helios' death was an unjust one. Kratos was attacked by Helios. He gave Helios the opportunity to give information and live, but, he lied after being beaten. Helios then still tried to kill Kratos. He had no choice. Maybe Kratos intends to say that his entire path of revenge against the gods was unjust? But, Zeus forced him into that too by literally destroying sparta and deciding to have Kratos tortured in the Underworld once he was dead.

@ReinAfterDark

6 ай бұрын

I think he was more referring to the brutality of the death

@deadeye6969

6 ай бұрын

Helios was under the effects of the evils of the pandora box and most of his attacks at kratos were him trying to fend kratos off so that he can fight the titans himself. Even if the asshole attacked kratos after his chariot was shot down, it is still understandable considering that kratos basically broke his legs

@gragh123

6 ай бұрын

because the developers made a therapist simulator that is maximally cliched.

@argoniek6801

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, that's the one thing I dislike about this DLC, Kratos had every right to kill Helios. If anything, he could make his death less sadistic

@ReinAfterDark

6 ай бұрын

@@argoniek6801 I don't think there's any objection to him killing his enemies, it was the sheer brutality he showed and the chaos he caused when trying to kill someone

Now question was that Actually Helios or was that a managitstion of Valhalla

@streetside2833

6 ай бұрын

Manifestation of Valhalla

@blackdemonknight

6 ай бұрын

@@streetside2833 Either from it's own will or from the guilt Kratos feels for what he did to Helios

@Fordmister

6 ай бұрын

Pretty sure he's a manifestation of Kratos guilt. All the sassy nastiness he spits out through the DLC are I think more meant to be what Kratos actually thinks of himself and his past actions rather than some external manifestation of Valhalla. Kinda confirms it for me when they are talking about Pandora's box and Helios actively calls out Kratos for trusting Athena and saying he didn't know it would make the gods the worst versions of themselves. Modern Kratos almost certainly does think past Kratos is a fool for trusting Athena. And even past Kratos probably knew she wasn't that trustworthy. He was just so focused on killing Ares he didn't care. It also explains why the Helios head always disappears upon reaching Tyr, as Tyr is actively trying to help Kratos move past the way he views himself as externalised by the manifestation of Helios.

@blackdemonknight

6 ай бұрын

@@Fordmister Another good example is Helios refusing Kratos' apology, a sign of Kratos feeling for those he feels he wronged he doesn't deserve their forgiveness for his actions.

I knew I loved Sigrun from the beginning for a reason, absolute badass!

Ah man, I’d recognize Alucard’s (Crispin Freeman’s) voice anywhere

I was really hoping we had more gods come back between confrontation - don’t get me wrong I liked the throne scene, and Helios, but I was honestly hoping for Athena, Poseidon, Hades, and Zeus; each taking their measure to challenge or taunt Kratos psyche during the dlc.

@jdrvargo287

5 ай бұрын

Plus I feel like the Hades stuff had some of the worst consequences. He broke the underworld so all those people he killed can't even find peace in death, and are forced to wander forever as lost souls and wraiths.

I think this was a missed oportunity to explain how the cage was supposed to be set on fire with really no need for the living sacrifice, it could have gave the idea that cruelty and madness weren't the result of an unjust world but rather they come from the very people's nature, that in reality they are the ones creating the hell they so rightiously wish to escape. It would have made the message of doing better all the more deep and powerful. Though i remember how the first game was and i don't actually think this could have worked but it was the first thing i thought watching this and i needed to say it.

@amberanime

5 ай бұрын

I mean both are linked. An Unjust world creates more unjust, angry, mad and cruel people. Or it brings out the worst in us. Maybe we all have the ability to be the worst, as well as the best of us. But that doesnt mean an unjust world is NOT to blame. If you hit a dog with a stick enough times, can you blame the dog for getting angry and trying to bite? The dog always had it in it's nature to be able to be agressive. It was always in there, but that doesnt mean the dog was doomed to be agressive. The way it was treated def played a role. Most cruelty done by humans comes from being part of an unjust and cruel world. Most humans dont do horrible things just because there is a capability for it in their system. It is triggerd. Sole exceptions are psychopaths who have a form of mental Illness. Long story short, people's natures can vary greatly from one person to another, but on average even though our natures carry with us the potential to be horrid, it is not the default state. Most times people are cruel without any form of mental illness present, it's because of what happend to them, to their loved ones, to their homes etc. Nature vs nurture. Our cruelty is not in our nature, only the potential for cruelty is in our nature. The Nurture is what it draws it out most of the time. Altough some people never become cruel, and others become cruel at the smallest amounts of suffering. We are not all wired the same way.

putting an ad in a cut scene video is crazy

This feels like a dream come true for me. I had always hoped they would cover Kratos old past and go more in depth into how he feels about what he did, and how his friends would react. The fact they go into so much detail for Helios of all people, finally answering questions I wanted current Kratos to answer. It's great!

3:37 Is that Frodo's scream from Lord of the Rings? When Gandalf fell into the abyss?

I like that these scenes point out that Kratos basically caused an apocalyptic event on his home world by killing the Gods.

@jdrvargo287

5 ай бұрын

Homeland. It's all the same world. The pantheon are geographically separated.

It's great that they got Crispin Freeman back!

Man, Crispin has such a range. I didn't notice that I was listening to Alucard the whole time

"Your technique has improved immeasurablely." - Mimir 😂

Man Kratos got to be careful being in Valhalla he almost just cooked his own brother mimir himself you can tell how powerful strong Kratos is cuz if you can rip open or tear off a metal gate bar you know that's real true strength of a god

Damn they actually got Crispin back in the booth for this, tight.

I love how this is just a therapy session for Kratos.

Man that flame trap brought me back to GoW 1❤❤❤