Girl really said "gorilla lookin mf " to a normal ass side face 😭

@c0nicalflask

11 ай бұрын

I believe It's just an exaggeration as her channel is also about "humour"

@kaiheejeu

11 ай бұрын

​@@c0nicalflaskso you ignored everything else

@colacolala

11 ай бұрын

@@c0nicalflaskdid u not watch the video

@c0nicalflask

11 ай бұрын

@@colacolala my bad,yes I was half way through it 💀(I do realise my mistake now)

@lordtette

11 ай бұрын

​​@@c0nicalflask'm worried you didn't realise how racist it is. That was egregious. She had already explained that it was bad

The only criticism I want to add is she keeps having “juicy lips” be apart of her brand but gets upset when people draw larger lips as ethnic features??

@murmirr

10 ай бұрын

cus theyre not white or asian lol 💀

@thou_narsty_gremlin

2 ай бұрын

broo that's ABSOLUTELY true, i'm asian (chinese) had have huge chonky lips,, and am terrified that other people find it really ugly or stupid-lookin 'cause they don't taper nicely and aren't as thin as the "jjuicy lips" that are portrayed in media??? As bad as filling in naturally thin lips is, refusing real, ethnic, big, full lips as well, is just...wrong???

@SnoopaSchnozler

2 ай бұрын

@@thou_narsty_gremlin yea “juicy lips” don’t just taper like that cuz then it’s just. Thin lips lmao but also fuck those people!!! Having big lips is badass and many people find that attractive!!!

@loka-chan6695

Ай бұрын

What even in juicy lips😂 lip fillers? Like my white friend has bigger lips naturaly then her juicy lips but they don’t look like those😂

Kooleen deleted my comment on her new video asking her to draw Hobie’s side profile 💀

@cherreii..

11 ай бұрын

HELPP 😭☠️☠️

@swjpsgcyI72592h

11 ай бұрын

Nah the racism really jumped out of her 😂

@turripipturip

11 ай бұрын

LMAOOOOOOOOO

@Alanie715

6 ай бұрын

LMAOOO 😭😭💀💀

@PrincessOfTheWholeUniverse

5 ай бұрын

You’re so brave for that

“It’s just her humour!” And her humour is blatant racism.

@lomi5987

11 ай бұрын

Cry

@hawkblood_art

11 ай бұрын

​@@lomi5987like you do

@lomi5987

11 ай бұрын

@@hawkblood_art horrid reply khxys

@caitlynsult2685

11 ай бұрын

fr it’s not even dark humor is edgy humor it’s just racist. “she looks like a gorilla” is not funny, not even structured like a joke and it’s just racist.

@hawkblood_art

11 ай бұрын

@@lomi5987 see. You're the one crying

People who havent studied anatomy properly shouldn't teach tutorials 💀

@blepblep7245

11 ай бұрын

THIS. dude omfg she doesnt even draw black people but has the AUDACITY to FIX an art with black people in it????

@pool.noodler

11 ай бұрын

@@blepblep7245 seriouslyy, she only fixes the art based on what "looks" right really proves that she shouldnt be making tutorials/education videos in the first place

@beautifullEternal

11 ай бұрын

Sis, art school profs are shaking their damn heads somewhere. Anyone who tried can tell you, this type of art style won’t land you in art school. They hate this ‘anime’ shit.

@blepblep7245

11 ай бұрын

@@pool.noodler she's not even correct in drawing east asians if that's what her excuse is. bc if you take east asians and draw a line from the nose like that it's gonna land like the g0rilla one bc east asians have flatter noses. she only draws pale skinny manhwa girls and have the AUDACITY to fix arts outside that style 💀💀

@blepblep7245

11 ай бұрын

@@beautifullEternal rlly? i was told that but i thought it's only in my country. is it global? why is the style hated?

It'll never ever sit right with me how she says she doesn't draw "ugly people" then just rarely draws darker people.

@kiruyuu

11 ай бұрын

dude she litterally draws asian people most of the time and that because she is asian, it's easier to draw someone with the same feature that's her confort zone. And also the ugly people , I'm sorry but I never see people doing fan art (out of cocmmisions) of characters they find unattractive or reference picture of someone they find unattractive.

@Kedamohno

11 ай бұрын

@@kiruyuui don't think you understand the comment

@Nunetutelulayi

11 ай бұрын

​@@kiruyuume when I don't understand the comment

@GYMACK

11 ай бұрын

@@kiruyuu Read my comment again please

@newlyedgyidol

11 ай бұрын

@@kiruyuu me when i dont read the comment properly

She is not fixing the art, she is just forcing Eurocentric beauty standards on to the character.

@samtonnude941

11 ай бұрын

You should watch Whytmanga, he draws black characters in such different ways and he has impeccable ARTSTYLE

@NkenKenY

5 ай бұрын

@@samtonnude941 i love his art style even thou his artstyle kinda reminds me of bleach art style lol

@samtonnude941

5 ай бұрын

@@NkenKenY Same🔥🔥

@AllyFin

2 ай бұрын

She's Asian, what's this about Eurocentric whatnot?

@sharkenjoyer

Ай бұрын

Not really eurocentric. She is using anime standards and apply them to actual people

tbh she always rubbed me the wrong way. not only does she come off as self-centered n racist but most of her “jokes” r insults. she also never “fixes” art, she turns them into another one of her bland copy paste drawings.

@bensophin

11 ай бұрын

OMG SAME😭 I FELT THE SAME BUT I ALWAYS BRUSHED IT OFF THINKING I WAS JUST A SENSITIVE IDIOT😭😭 plus all of her drawings of people that are not real look the same

@Vamptre

11 ай бұрын

@@bensophin I THOUGHT I WAS A WHINY LIL BITCH FOR IT RUBBING ME THE WRONG WAY

@amele_2

11 ай бұрын

sameee i just shut up about it because everyone seemed to love her

@laureldreams4108

11 ай бұрын

Thisss also IDK i really dislike how she is always like "Yassifying " and the whole "Juicy lip" thing annoys me for some reason..? LIke don't get me wrong but it sound like she has an obsession with lips?? IDK its just weird to me,,

@deliriouspenis

11 ай бұрын

it’s the internet and her fandom is full of children/teenagers lmao of course they would just deem those insulting “jokes” as the “savage one-liner”. hope they course through that phase soon enough, though, for the sake of everyone.

Kooleen saying the jaw/chin has to curve inward like that personally offended me as someone who has handled human skulls,, like even if it wasn’t blatantly racist that’s literally not how anatomy works bruh

@elvingearmasterirma7241

11 ай бұрын

​@@error-try-again-laterHmm that royal chin. We love to see it

@beautifullEternal

11 ай бұрын

@@elvingearmasterirma7241Hapsburg Ha!

@mittag983

11 ай бұрын

​@@error-try-again-laterYou mean an overbite (Yanderedev chin/incel chin) the chins of hers are too small underbite is Shrek/Dream chin

@aiyeuhhh

11 ай бұрын

Regarding the face the eyes r a bit off imo but other than that it looks good??

@cassi6528

11 ай бұрын

She gives everyone that Leafyishere chin lmfao

I want to give my perspective on this as a Filipino, because Kooleen is Filipino. People who defend her (I assume to be international fans) may say she does draw POC aka Asian people because she's Asian herself. However, COLORISM is still very prevalent in the Philippines and much of Southeast Asia. Kooleen mostly draws characters with eurocentric and East Asian features, and EA culture has been idolized in the PH for a long time (anime, kpop, kdrama). Thus their beauty standards have influenced PH beauty standards as well, while our own native features are put down. Which is why I find it harmful that she says she doesn't draw "ugly people" and I have not seen her draw any Filipino characters (apart from a couple of fanart of people who DO fit the beauty standards) and just darker skinned people in general.

@wareware_.

11 ай бұрын

facts dude, hell even in east asia there are obvs people with tan and darker skin (like mwah :33) and yet if youve never lived there and only watched shows from there, you wouldnt even know. we’re barely protrayed in media that much, if at all. and if we are, we’re more likely to be protrayed as villians

@bublynnn

11 ай бұрын

real, its so sad

@Suited_Nat

11 ай бұрын

^ this

@amazingusername111

11 ай бұрын

@@wareware_. fr there are japanese who are very dark/tan bc they go to the beach sm and there are chinese ppl who are NATURALLY tan like just born with it

@pauldesert2541

11 ай бұрын

I'm also a Filipino and I confirm this too. Colorism is shit in the Philippines

Notice how she didn't comment on this video but did on the first one

@pale_blue_ruby

3 ай бұрын

Probably because she actually feels guilty. People can cross boundaries sometimes, then learn to not do that again.

@anamairy_k

2 ай бұрын

​​​​@@pale_blue_ruby And yet she crossed boundaries once more recently...aka, sexualizing an aro-ace storytime youtuber Jaiden. Who herself stated that she suffered from strong body dysmorphia and hates being sexualizied. Which really made me unfollow her this time, because I feel like she doesn't really think/care about how affected people could be.

the sheer amount of artists who get hella clout just because they learned quick digital rendering techniques rather than having good fundamentals 😩

@Jeri-Berri

11 ай бұрын

It's interesting to see how you don't have to be a professional to become a popular artist online. I find it kinda inspiring, but it's also potentially bad because you can easily spread misinformation and promote your bad art habits. If I ever become more popular, I'm gonna add in some disclaimers, like "PLEASE DON'T USE ME FOR ART STUDIES. I DON'T KNOW SHIT EITHER. I JUST LIKE TO DRAW AND WANT TO SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE." Lol

@EphemeralPseudonym

11 ай бұрын

@@Jeri-Berri it's great in that it shows there's potential/niches for everyone out there and plenty of metrics to succeed by but uh yeah, art tutorials should always be framed as for specific purposes since art is mostly about developing your observation

@vrmpyr

11 ай бұрын

ohh this is too true 😭 while its fine to be popular online with bad fundamentals its another thing when you make tutorials with bad fundamentals

Kooleen when humans features are not copypaste like her art :😭🙀😰😱😭😫

@user-qq9pb9mg6m

11 ай бұрын

Omg frrrrr

@User5670.

11 ай бұрын

😰what do you mean all faces aren't the same!??!!!!!😰

@Giantsans

11 ай бұрын

​@@User5670.it's a horror 😱😰😨

@eepydevil

11 ай бұрын

FR i have a wonky nose and paper cut lips, that’s part of myself, it’s horrible that i see artists saying drawing them like that is “wrong”.

@zeinorvenus

11 ай бұрын

have you seen her miguel o’hara fanart?? it doesn’t even look like him😭😭

Have you also noticed she says she never draws ugly people, then proceeds to never draw people who aren’t white/Asian

@goingferalluvs

11 ай бұрын

She only draws the picture perfect image of the east Asian beauty standard, pale skin, v shape face, double eye lid, etc etc, so she's only drawing anime characters or kpop stars, which is also terrible because many women are pressured to get surgeries or they are discriminated against

@bosiereeves1730

11 ай бұрын

​@@bimates2690her choice to be racist

@isn3ll3

11 ай бұрын

@@Nikita_Dyatlovthat’s fine but whenever she “corrects” art, she treats it like her style constantly & actively dismisses certain features as if they’re non-existent.

@latinasawntop

11 ай бұрын

@@bimates2690It’s racist though. Drawing only one specific race and leaving out the rest for ANY reason is weird and discriminatory.

@goingferalluvs

11 ай бұрын

@@Nikita_Dyatlov ignoring the obvious problem of kooleen being purposefully ignorant? It's not a crime, but she also thinks she has the right to critique the work of others and "fix it" when she doesn't even know how to draw anything but an anime style nor is she a professional, the absolute horror of it all, I know /s

A senior artist I worked with (I don't mean an elderly artist, just a more experienced artist) saw my drawings and asked "do you draw attractive people all the time?" and I said yeah, he then advised me not to do that and try drawing faces and bodies differently or reference actual features from people IRL. I didn't get why I should do that bc I thought it's just my preference. Now I know why. The goal is to GROW outside your comfort zone and actually be better at art in general. Imagine if I didn't dare try to draw the other eye, or the hands, or men. I wouldn't be the same artist I'm proud of right now.

@teru_9921

2 ай бұрын

@@AllyFin drawing what you like is also valid. A lot of people draw things they're fond of and attracted to, it's not uncommon. But I'm speaking as someone who pursues art seriously as a career and not just mere hobbyist anymore, so actually improving my artistic skills and knowledge is going to benefit me in pursuing this path. One of which is listening to an advice from a pro. Secondly, I added about drawing the other eye, hands, and men because I used to not be able to draw those (I originally only draw pretty girls)- and because those are common problems artists often have. Had I not motivate myself to learn it, I'd never get where I am now as an artist. And even when I was still a hobbyist, I don't enjoy being stagnant and would definitely still learn new things. So again, it's up to the individual. Hope that clears things up.

I heard someone say *Kooleen Balinger* and that’s probably the most real thing I’ve heard all day.

@nukita718

11 ай бұрын

Kooleen still hasn't deleted her Anyussy comment 😬

@MarsPicnic

11 ай бұрын

@@nukita718 Anya?

@nukita718

11 ай бұрын

@@MarsPicnicyes considering she's literally a minor.

THE EDGES PART MADE ME GO INSANE HOW IS SHE THAT IGNORANT 😭

@pomegranate594

11 ай бұрын

IM STARTING TO UNIRONICLY THINK SHES NEVER ACTUALLY SEEN A BLACK PERSON 💀💀

@latinasawntop

11 ай бұрын

the ignorance is see through atp

@StopCrying17

11 ай бұрын

wdym

@latinasawntop

11 ай бұрын

@@StopCrying178:20

@lulu30467

11 ай бұрын

it feels anti black tbh 💀

As a black person, I can say: it's not ignorance, it's racism. Putting Eurocentric features on a black character, with black features is disgusting, racist and nothing will make me change my mind. I already thought her art was generic, eurocentric and just plain wrong, but her charisma made me like her videos for that alone, but after that, I'm deeply disappointed and sick. I'm a black illustrator and to say that such an illustration has a "gorilla face" is extremely offensive.

@Koffiee

11 ай бұрын

As a black person, same

@RubyandSassy

11 ай бұрын

I agree, especially since she’s someone who creates tutorials teaching others to draw the same. Before watching the full video I did think it was just ignorance. Just literally trying to use the same base for every race, but after watching the full video and reading this comment and reflecting on my own knowledge as an artist (especially someone who tries to capture different people and face shapes and such) and reflecting on the fact that I, as a white artist, have never tried to force Eurocentric features on characters of other races except when I was like 12 and drawing the same face over and over for the same character. Basically, after reflecting I don’t see how it could be passed off as just ignorance.

@ericamutowodzwa628

11 ай бұрын

Do tutorials then and teach the 'right way'

@klimp856

11 ай бұрын

@@ericamutowodzwa628there is not one ‘right way’ to do art. art is a form of self expression. but when someone is being harmful and RACIST in their art and especially tutorials that are meant to teach other people what the artist considers the ‘right way’ is unacceptable

@yulebones

11 ай бұрын

@@ericamutowodzwa628 The whole point is that there isn't a "right way" to draw faces when there are somewhere around 650 ethnic groups (at least according to one study published by WaPo) and an endless variation of bone structures among those groups. So an artist doing a tutorial and taking the facial structure of one ethnicity and putting the features of your own onto it is ignorant *at best,* and just plain racist if you haven't earned the benefit of the doubt, which she hasn't.

As a white guy even my face doesn’t slope as much as Kooleen is saying, my nose is only slightly further out than my chin. Even in most anime art styles the chin and nose aren’t slanted! I hate that everything these artist who “fix art” do is remove any kind of style, I saw one that just straight up admitted it and shat on someone for drawing eyebrows on top of the hair bc “oh that doesn’t happen in real life” when the drawing wasn’t even in a realistic style! God they’re just so infuriating

@Xombic0780

11 ай бұрын

Ohhh I know the video you’re talking about, that REALLY ticked me off when I heard that, like, stylisation exists!

I'm not black. In fact, I am Filipino like Kooleen and I have the features that she considers "gorilla-looking". Really uncalled for.

I’m a black girl who is trying to learn how to draw black features. Calling out features “Gorilla features” is gross and nasty as hell. If you defend this person you are part of the problem and need help

@ArtisticKaimage

11 ай бұрын

Right sis , for years we see very Eurocentric things and art everywhere and now we want to draw us in an aesthetic and beautiful way❤ I finally helped my style is drawing black features by loads of portraits and Pinterest photos. ❤ good luck on your journey ❤️ 😊

@pleasedont3636

11 ай бұрын

@@ArtisticKaimage thank u

@Carmiineh

11 ай бұрын

It's literally going back to 1500s seing the first old drawings of europeans comparing black african people with monkeys 💀 We need to stop this, it should have been stopped for centuries!

@Tammyue.

11 ай бұрын

Omg same she definitely took it too far

@Tammyue.

11 ай бұрын

​@@Carmiinehikr

the fact she uses so much AAVE but then go around to blatanty be rascist to the people that invented her "slang"

@hope3290

11 ай бұрын

I distinctly remember her using "lightskin stare" to describe one of her drawings that was absolutely not a lightskin black person and it irritated me so much.

@tsukitanuki101

11 ай бұрын

This is so true, it goes back to people appropriating black culture. You want the benefits of being black (our slang, our full lips, our curvy bodies, our food) but you don’t have to deal with the problems that come with being black. It’s so very frustrating

@megankassa3633

11 ай бұрын

right!! the least she could do is respect the community that made it :(

@sporkzzz

11 ай бұрын

I wanted to comment something like this but I wasn't sure if I was misremembering her use of AAVE

@user-ci2dw1pc4d

11 ай бұрын

​@@hope3290the lightskin stare isnt only for lightskin black people bro

Im gonna be honest, I was suspicious ever since she said "I don't draw UGLY people" its lowkey a dog whistle

@thequitefriend1159

11 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@ssnekky

11 ай бұрын

The “I don’t draw ugly people” line is definitely what made me first raise my eyebrow, but I still watched her videos for a couple weeks after that. Eventually I lost interest, then I didn’t watch her for a while and BAM turns out she’s racist. Glad I jumped off the kooleen train before it got bad-

@ARCHIVED9610

11 ай бұрын

PREACH

@Seraph_Luvvz

11 ай бұрын

Literally, saying she only draws attractive people and then refusing to draw anyone who isn’t the beauty standard is odd

@Kitt-Sage

11 ай бұрын

Right. Even if it wasn't race based that's just a disgusting thing to say at all. It made her seem arrogant and it was a complete turn off

The fact that Neo-Nazi accounts on social media were defending her...was a tell-tale sign that she effed up. She won't address it, its one thing to do it and then apologize immediately. But to make several videos afterwards on different platforms and not address it, you lose the "I was ignorant to blah blah blah" card. It was intentional, and she's showing us how she really feels. Her fanbase is annoying as well.

@murmirr

10 ай бұрын

her fanbase is annoying because they are like 10-15. its really honestly disgusting that shes perpetuating these things to her young audience when her herself is 20 years old. like grow tf up. her excuse was "i haven't consumed western media 🥺🥺🥺" girl what the fuck is you talking about black people aren't only in the west like...

As a black artist that looks like the “gorilla mf” and is a little insecure about it this hurt me 💀 it’s perfectly fine not to draw darker skinned people when you’re doing art for yourself. HOWEVER when you’re teaching like Koolen is that’s when you absolutely need to be multifaceted. That’s when it’s harmful to young artists as well as black/brown people. Shame on her for teaching this and pushing that our features are not worthy of drawing. A little disappointed to say the least😭 AGAIN JUST WANT THIS KNOWN: no one is forcing her to draw darker skinned people at all. I never said she HAS to draw people like me that’s perfectly fine if she doesn’t this is just an observation on how this could potentially be harmful to younger artists. Absolutely no hate to her I’m sorry I didn’t specify enough with my first comment.

@bellmityshu

11 ай бұрын

If I tell you that I already expected it? 😶

@Giantsans

11 ай бұрын

Girl I have same kind of side profile and when first saw kooleen's video a while ago I was so insecure and thought there is something wrong with me I even started to do some face yoga ( that was dumb of me ) I even used to edit my picture to make it look like that line ! Crazy of me but after some time of learning how everyone's face is and they suit them I just don't care about it anymore also believe me you are beautiful tooo 💗🙌 don't care about what people say !

@Nublet864

11 ай бұрын

10000% this Like ppl say that she's only out to teach her own style but it's clear that a lot of beginner artists *are* taking her tutorials as all encompassing and tbh some of her tutorials present themselves as such Like the side profile tutorial she's not taking like she's teaching it in her style she's talking like she's presenting general anatomy tips So ya, of you want to teach you have to be a well rounded artists and make sure you're not spreading crappy pinterest tutorials

@albedox6428

11 ай бұрын

I SAW IT AND WAS LIKE “oh ok” 🥲🥲🥲

@dummyyogurt5375

11 ай бұрын

she doesn't have to teach everything. if she can't draw black characters, why would she teach other people to do so ? you don't have history teachers teaching you about arithmetics

There was a big SamDoesArt drama before and ppl hated him for not drawing differently (his style had same face syndrome) but praised kooleen for having it?? Like ppl hated Sam for not drawing "diversity" but kooleen straight up said she doesn't draw "ugly people" and the last time I saw her art it was pretty much asians only.

@apples2apples

11 ай бұрын

ONGGGGGG PREACHHHHH

@rockhistoria2537

11 ай бұрын

And not even actual asian people, but overglorified east asian people + additional eurocentric beauty standards

@swrzyy

11 ай бұрын

sam is amazing

@saraifleming7483

11 ай бұрын

Ngl Sam stepped it UP in the past few months he's starting to experiment with complexions and features more :)

@vincentvanwoah

11 ай бұрын

fr like what??

Its so so tiring to see ppl who use their "art style" as an excuse to be racist/colorist, fatphobic, ableist, etc. Draw whatever you want, just dont be a fucking asshole. Also, all bodies and facial structures are perfectly fine and even beautiful.

@meikoluvv

11 ай бұрын

Or teach art in general. Like don’t start teaching people about facial features or general anatomy without even grasping it yourself. Only drawing a certain group of people in tutorials, legit don’t teach because she isn’t a good teacher.

@ArtisticKaimage

11 ай бұрын

Exactly the more diversity the more beauty it is to be drawing and having fun ❤ and giving people representation . ❤

@jumboo6067

11 ай бұрын

Fr

@luna-mt7sf

11 ай бұрын

She actually get the permission of the original artist to draw their characters on her OWN , they agreed on it so ...

@ArtisticKaimage

11 ай бұрын

@@luna-mt7sf yes but her critiques weren’t rooted in a good LIGHT nor where they with the knowledge on how to draw other races properly or with respect. The whole “gorilla” Commentary was uncalled for and rude for her to say.

me when my face isn’t anatomically correct according to kooleen: 😭😭😭

@turkeyhamanddeath

11 ай бұрын

Now she will try to reshape my face 😞

@n3wjeanS2117

11 ай бұрын

awww mann now I have to get face surgery😢😢😢

@eenchantress5113

3 ай бұрын

Y’all are funny asf lmao

As somebody who likes Kooleen and is Black this is insanely disrespectful and racist :/ I'm feeling really conflicted about this

@getouisfineasf1604

11 ай бұрын

For real I don’t know how I should feel about her

@vincentvanwoah

11 ай бұрын

fr, i’m a black fan of hers as well and i’m very disappointed.

@icymoontv

11 ай бұрын

Tbh as a black person I immediately unsubscribed and unfollowed her on KZread and Instagram after watching this video.

@alagaalaga9217

11 ай бұрын

Me too 😕

@Noah-lo9vb

11 ай бұрын

I’m sorry :( You deserve better.

i’m gonna be honest her art isn’t the best either. she doesn’t seem to understand anatomy that well, like her “don’t let the chin exceed the nose” isn’t even true AT ALL for so many character designs. beginners shouldn’t be taking her advice to heart when she herself doesn’t know how proportions work 😭😭

@ingambsr

11 ай бұрын

She gives them the red ass lips and greasy hair to every single drawing and call it “yassified” ☠️

@lordtette

11 ай бұрын

Maybe if she drew different types of people she'd know that.🤭

@user-zl5fx1ns6t

11 ай бұрын

Finally someone who thinks the same as me

@sawsawsuka

11 ай бұрын

yup😭

@UniChimma

11 ай бұрын

@@lordtettemaybe she always use the same model, I don’t know, she sometimes uses reference and the character doesn’t not look like the reference at all

I watched her thinking "I get the vibes shes gonna do something bad but I'll stay for now" and what do you know...

@caki4695

11 ай бұрын

Tbf I'm used to youtubers, especially in the art community, plus she somewhat made me think of Creepshow, so it probably was more that than "Wow I'm so smart and intuitive 🤩🤩🤪"

funny enough, her own side profile doesn't apply to her rule of drawing side profiles.

@Spectre-69

2 ай бұрын

I guess by her own logic, she's an ape just like me.

Artists don’t have to draw every race, they can draw whatever race they want. But it does not give them the right to trash other races. Face shapes are various so she shouldn’t really be saying “i dont draw ugly people” as if ugly people are not worth being drawn, its weird. She also needs to stop FIXING art/ROASTING art when her art style is ANIME not black art.

@Jeri-Berri

11 ай бұрын

Exactly.

@abjectmadness1111

11 ай бұрын

Tyyy, it’s making people look dumb by saying she needs to draw more black people. For one, what about any other race? For two, that’s not the problem here lmao.

@Aloysius_OHare

11 ай бұрын

@@abjectmadness1111 Its like telling fantasy medieval background artists to draw more modern futuristic cities. It just doesn't correlate. When you train yourself one way aka Anime art as I have seen her art is, there's no way she is going to understand black culture drawing and that sort of style because whether people like to admit it or not, it is a VERY different style of drawing.

@abjectmadness1111

11 ай бұрын

@@Aloysius_OHare Tbh I think it’s easy to draw black people in an anime style, but it doesn’t mean you have to . Literally just draw what you want

@stardoogalaxie9314

11 ай бұрын

In the modern day, I think it’s necessary for a healthy artistic diet to be able to draw ugly/old/non-white people. You don’t have to draw it all the time! You should just know how to in a pinch.

Kooleen: *criticizes other's art* Her Fans: People: *Criticizes her art and tutorials* Her Fans: THAT'S ILLEGAAAAL!!!!

@Jeri-Berri

11 ай бұрын

REAL

@Koziiyy

11 ай бұрын

And then they call ppl who criticizes jealous😭😭

@HiBuddyyyyyy

11 ай бұрын

@@elektrapapakosma8144didn’t those people get harassment from her fans after the art ‘fixes’.

@mittag983

11 ай бұрын

​@@elektrapapakosma8144But some only wanted FEEDBACK not roasts

@muxchi

11 ай бұрын

​@@mittag983 I'm not defending her, but her titles are literally roasting your art, people know that and submit it willingly, like, she doesn't hold a gun to their head or smthng

Crazy how she replied to your last video but now she’s completely silent!

the worst part is I bet that if kooleen saw someone saying Asian eyes were ugly she’d be angry, while she publicly discourages beginner artists to draw black features as they make people “look like gorillas.”

She literally draws the same emotionless, bland people who all look the same ALL the time, I dont think ive ever seen her draw any person without a thin tiny nose, " big juicy lips", and a perfect jaw line

@nameless.402

11 ай бұрын

And light skin Edit: I've heard the same thing twice so please before you complain read the rest of the replies so nobody's time is wasted (Especially yours. Don't waste your time on an entire paragraph explaining how someone is wrong. This is the Internet, where everyone will have different opinions.)

@dummyyogurt5375

11 ай бұрын

I can understand being mad at racism, but being mad that she's drawing the same stuff over and over is just being entitled. she draws whatever she wants to draw. unless she avoids drawing people with dark skin because of racism, saying she *has* to draw them when she may not know how to is just entitled.

@NahNo-xy2kq

11 ай бұрын

@@dummyyogurt5375point to us where they ever said she “has” to.💀

@mookchie

11 ай бұрын

@@dummyyogurt5375if she “doesn’t know how to” draw dark skinned people (which is bs, she should at least give it a try) then why tf is she making art tutorials and giving others advice on how to draw black ppl?

@may4966

11 ай бұрын

so what if she draws what she draws? what does it have to do with you?

general rule: never trust mfs named "colleen"

@swrzyy

11 ай бұрын

koolaid

@lampshade8997

11 ай бұрын

💀😭

@AdoboSoGuud

11 ай бұрын

​​@@swrzyyah, Kool aid man valid

@Kigurumi79

11 ай бұрын

That have “ballinger ” as their last name or the channel name “kooleen”

@idrinktea420

11 ай бұрын

Also the one who write shitty ahh books

Kooleens apology was painfully half assed omg 😭😭😭😭

koolen’s next video: “THE TOXIC GOSSIP TRAIN-“ /j

@usersiudfgjj

11 ай бұрын

KOOLEEN AND COLLEEN

@HighProteinPowder

11 ай бұрын

Always those people with any variation of colleen

@chipi397

10 ай бұрын

@@usersiudfgjjWAIT WHY DOES IT RHYME

@Spectre-69

2 ай бұрын

Close enough, but her recent video was one claiming to "fix" storytime animators "avatars" (aka their real-life likenesses which she thinks are "just avatars") while mocking everything about their style. She even called Jaiden a "soccer mom" when she isn't even a bigot or a parent.

no matter if she is racist or not, the fact she only draws “attractive” people while only drawing slim lightly skinned people, shows that she finds darker skin and non-Eurocentric features ugly, or at least not “attractive”, at the end of the day she is an influencer and her drawings reach thousands of impressionable people (probably kids) who might think that only lighter skinned people are beautiful, or that your art only matters if you are drawing “good looking” people.

@flask223

11 ай бұрын

Erasing black features is racist. Simple

@Kuromikinnie

11 ай бұрын

@@JoJoboiWavwe found the racist 😂

@Roguemeowmeow

11 ай бұрын

​@@JoJoboiWavWtf do you mean not her type..that's an odd thing to say 💀

@Asaspecimenyesimextraoddinary

11 ай бұрын

She draws East Asian (specifically Korean) beauty standards so it’s not Eurocentric, but she’s still very ignorant. She’s even Filipino, and alot of Filipino people have darker skin and wide noses, so her not drawing them because ‘she might not know how’ is so funny.

@dimensionalmagic

11 ай бұрын

@@Kuromikinnie go after all those anime artists then, they're all doing it, I rarely see any non attractive models in art community in general

holy fuck I wasn’t expecting that😭 she really “fixed” a perfectly good picture of a black woman, and it looked extremely bad after. I kinda saw that she would do something like this on ur other video, but I didn’t think much bc u excused her, but after this i’m just like, wow😭🤨.

@shreddedcardigan3972

11 ай бұрын

The fact that the original image had the woman tilt her head, and that was entirely ignored in the “fixing”. The only issue to be fixed with the painting imo is the uneven coats of paint and lack of harder edges, other than that its a real nice piece!

@ruyu.j1n

11 ай бұрын

@@shreddedcardigan3972 exactly. i’ve always hated how people only draw that “anime” face shape. just makes you realize how exclusive the mainstream is. most d add hallow artist only draw that one side profile, with that button nose. and as soon as someone draws something different they call your art bad. everytime I see something related to drawing humans, there’s always something bad😭

@ruyu.j1n

11 ай бұрын

@@error-try-again-later i’m not saying it’s bad or anything (sorry if it came off like that) i’m just saying that everyone does that and nobody experiments with other face shapes.

@Nublet864

11 ай бұрын

Fr! The only fix the og art needed was the eyes and eyebrows needed to be moved But no kooleen had to add in a complete facial reconstruction 😭😭😭

@yaaeerrgghhh

11 ай бұрын

​@SatansBabybat yeah most art tutorials are just the basic skinny anime anatomy. It's so hard finding anything for more diverse features that sometimes I had to just go learn on my own 😅

also like the "dont take her seriously shes satire" defense doesnt rly work when u take asecond to scroll thru the comments of her videos bc its literally all ppl going "omg this helped me so much this is such a good tutorial thank you" like clearly people are using her tutorials like theyre genuine (becos they are)

@Jeri-Berri

11 ай бұрын

SERIOUSLY. That's a great point. People need to take this into account. 💀

@mitskimaxxing

11 ай бұрын

true

@biothehaz4rd

3 ай бұрын

Right. And why do people call her content “satire”??? What is she satirizing?? An insufferable KZreadr??

@_st4reater

2 ай бұрын

also like satire is exaggerating something to point out how ridiculous it is. WHAT is she satarizing?

@AJ-lm5dl

Ай бұрын

​@@biothehaz4rd She satires art. She draws silly stuff.

Wayyy off topic but I’ve fallen into a Kooleen drama rabbit hole so this video randomly appeared in my recommended and YOU’RE SO MAJESTIC?? ACTUALLY GORGEOUS

@truestnaffy

11 ай бұрын

NO CAUSE FR SHES ACTUALLY SO PRETTY WOW

@user-pi9fb5zm3z

11 ай бұрын

FRR she's actually stunninggg

always felt a bit weird whenever she said she doesn't draw ugly people and then proceeds to only asian/white skinned ppl with the same face 98% of the time + the "fixing art" clip of her was really a WTF moment

@artistaroundtheblock2047

11 ай бұрын

Very North European looking Asian people.

@nerdyrembow6869

11 ай бұрын

@@artistaroundtheblock2047 jdhshs i mostly said Asian bc if you see her Pinterest its basically all East Asian models (specifically Koreans/korean manhwas) but her artsyle is mixed

@blepblep7245

11 ай бұрын

"gorilla lookin mf" anatomy are very common among asians, even east asians bc we have flatter faces. and she is asian so idk why she would be saying that.. and if she's saying "i OnLy dRaW aTtRacTivE pEoPLe" NO. bc some idols have that kind of anatomy, hitomi (izone) is one example. that face anatomy is as attractive as it is.

@blepblep7245

11 ай бұрын

like dude even jennie (black pink) side view is closer to the "gorilla lookin mf" one. we tend to have flatter noses than white people so if you draw a line like that from the nose it's gonna land like the "gorilla lookin" one

@Mochi_3303

11 ай бұрын

Yep now shes going to fair by saying those words idk why some of her “fans” still depend them still。

you are so real for this, i used to watch Kooleen and realized how she just draws the same person and sticks to Eurocentric features for her art while saying “i dont draw ugly people.” So that gives me a bad taste in my mouth, knowing she doesnt really draw black people, other people with dark skin, etc. So you got a sub. 👍 I’m sorry to the people that had their normal side profiles insulted by her 😭 edit: i think she lives in the Philippines and as a Filipino the “gorilla looking” side profile IS common in Filipinos.

@UniChimma

11 ай бұрын

And she says “I draw beautiful people because their features are symmetrical and it’s easier to draw them” Maybe she is only lazy

@Maryam-forbia

11 ай бұрын

Aside from black people she doesn't even draw REAL asian people or even white people,she only draws a specific beauty standard and deems it as the only pretty thing to draw

@blepblep7245

11 ай бұрын

@@Maryam-forbia dude im east asian and my side profile is the "gorilla one" bc my nose is flat, so if you draw a line like that it's gonna land straight on my lips and chin

@mittag983

11 ай бұрын

​@@blepblep7245I'm half middle eastern half filipino so both my chin lips AND nose stick out Kooleen would call me a literal jump scare ngl 💀

@blepblep7245

11 ай бұрын

@@mittag983 😭😭😭. ur not ugly tho, she's just stupid at drawing anything other than skinny manhwa girls

So am I the only one who always avoids kooleen when it comes to learning and tutorials??? Edit: in conclusion she shouldnt be teaching at all

@EphemeralPseudonym

11 ай бұрын

I usually point people to drawabox these days since it's a pretty useful thing for developing your mechanical skills and observation for technical drawings You're not gonna be making glamorous stuff right away, but going for the "I wanna draw something pretty" shortcut tends to kneecap people for later

@AdoboSoGuud

11 ай бұрын

Nah you're NOT THE only one. I love Ethan Becker most lol

@bensophin

11 ай бұрын

@@AdoboSoGuud Ethan Becker is S tier and so is samdoesarts

@ArtisticKaimage

11 ай бұрын

Most of the time her tutorials look like the ones from early 2010s on how to draw a generic anime face for beginners anyways 😬

@ArtisticKaimage

11 ай бұрын

@@bensophinand that’s on everything 🎉🎉❤❤❤

Honestly, from the first Kooleen video I watched back when she had only about ~300k subs, she already left a taste in my mouth that was so ridiculously sour. I didn’t know it at the time, but I realized it after she got 1m. Her art was soulless and underwhelming, just extremely mediocre, her tutorials don’t help young artists learn how to draw, it just helps them learn how to draw *like her*. I think in that same video I watched she outright said that she wasn’t trying to be funny at all, she was just being honest. Now seeing her call Black features “gorilla” features gives me all the more reason to dislike Kooleen. On the issue of her barely drawing POCs other than East Asians, I am a light-skinned Filipina and colorism really is a huge, huge problem in the Philippines, East Asia is also extremely idolized in the Philippines, Eurocentric and/or East Asian features with light skin is pretty much the beauty standard here. I get a lot of comments from people saying that they want my skin color. My parents told me I shouldn’t go outside to “avoid getting brown skin”, they even told me people get work opportunities for that, I watched a documentary on how many Filipinos, especially Filipino women spend money to bleach their skin (I believe my mother has tried this too), skin whitening products are darn near everywhere. TLDR: Colorism in the Philippines is batshit crazy.

@professionalbird911

11 ай бұрын

So fucking true couldn’t have said it better myself

@Alphamale5000

11 ай бұрын

This is off topic but I really like the way you write it’s very nice

@murmirr

10 ай бұрын

god you write just like me. thank you. this needed to be said tbh

Rin as a (mixed race) black person I must say you are spitting facts, thank you for talking about this 😎👍🏽🤍

@ericamutowodzwa628

11 ай бұрын

As a black person I say artists chose what they want to draw, very rarely will you see black characters in anime and no-one complains what is the difference

@na0mi2k

11 ай бұрын

​@ericamutowodzwa628 ppl do complain abt the lack of diversity in anime tho☠️ also when black characters are in anime they're usually stereotypes

@Wurmss

11 ай бұрын

​@@ericamutowodzwa628people don't watch anime to learn to draw usually. Kooleen makes art TUTORIALS to teach people. Teaching artists lack of diversity will contribute to harmful stereotypes and leave people unable to draw black features/be discouraged to draw those features in the feature.

@mutedwoodlands

11 ай бұрын

@@ericamutowodzwa628 What are you going on about dawg did we even watch the same video 💀

@captain_coolbeans

11 ай бұрын

as a mixed person, agreed.

Hearing Rin call Kooleen a bad artist is what I've always needed without knowing I needed it (she is horrible)

@D4yxO

11 ай бұрын

Legit, her artstyle is so flat, she literally only draws one type of bodytype per gender. But as soon someone shows FLUIDITY?? Awful. Disgusting. Literally a gorilla.

@Shelby.Correia

11 ай бұрын

@bimates2690 dawg why are you asking me this like I know. Also you can be any race to call out Kooleen for being R*cist.

@wormholeater

11 ай бұрын

@@Shelby.Correiawhy’d u censor racist lmao

@taylorsoswag577

11 ай бұрын

real

@Shelby.Correia

11 ай бұрын

@@wormholeater because i felt like it

Tbh, ive never really liked Koolen. I never hated her, but its kind of her personality. She literally acts like she is the number one artist in the world, and when people’s drawings aren’t like her ARTSYLE, she literally roast it BADLY. And when i open the comments section,i only see positive comments of people PRAISING her, because they are scared that she might roast them, and because most of her fans have lack of self esteem, while Kooleen has a lot of self esteem, i have no problem with that, but she drains other people with her ego. And when she roast people’s art, as we all notice, she doesn’t respect it, and says offending words. Which is not okay! ^^. And the worst is that her fans are like “Why is everyone taking Kooleen’s words so seriously? Like yall lets all appreciate her for WASTING her time to give us the best tips ever!” When in reality most of her fans who say this are actually offended by her comments but doesn’t admit it because they are too “afraid”. Well honey, she can DEFINITELY and SIMPLY give us tips without roasting us THIS bad. And no, i WILL take myself seriously and im not gonna let some youtuber roast my art rudely. Plus, she always draw the same facial features on her character, skintone,etc. And when it comes to people drawing different artstyle/skintone characters, she is not okay with that. Lets all be for real for ONCE.

@nukita718

11 ай бұрын

And then die hard Kooleen fans defend her by saying “it’s just SATIRE”

I'm a Filipino artist too and man I'm so ashamed of what she said 🥲 A lot of excellent Filo artists draw POCs without this racist shit, I promise 😭

@simmoninbuns4407

11 ай бұрын

Fr, she's an embarrassment to Filipino artsists. (amputa talaga💀)

@nuclearpancake3683

11 ай бұрын

The first time i felt ashamed to be filipino….

@arlenevarner5539

11 ай бұрын

​. Im not filipino im black but the fact the people defending her actions are using the fact she is filipino as excuse to be racist is a little racist in itself sorry you ahve to go through this hope you prosper

@txin999

11 ай бұрын

@@arlenevarner5539 Thank you! :') I hope for you to prosper as well

@kitcatmunchkin

11 ай бұрын

I don't.. really get it? I know kooleen will have her own opinion and she will continue to live with her opinion, which i believe is that east asians are prettiest. she likes drawing east-asians, and thats not a problem to me or you i believe. but she can't always do what you request her, especially if they don want to step out of their comfort zone and maybe draw other races, because skin colour matching can be hard. it's even hard for me. i'm not trying to stand up for kooleen, i understand that she may be calling darker skin toned (it doesn't feel right to me to say black.) people because she's used to her manhua artstyle! and i believe that she may think that you will criticize her because her artstyle looks ugly when drawing darker skinned people. i haven't listened to the woman in the video yet, as its really late at night. if someone can summarise the video for me and point out all of my mistakes it would be great. kooleen is a great artist, and she should keep pursuing i believe.

oh my god she thought the edges were eyebrows holy fuck the secondhand embarrassment

@meikoluvv

11 ай бұрын

But she uses aave like her life depends on it… irony

@AJ-lm5dl

Ай бұрын

Can't blame her for that one, though. Why were they so low and so long? Those baby hairs looked like oversized eyelashes.

Some people might say that not all black people look like this and that’s fine, but most need to remember that society hasn’t actually welcomed us into its depth with all our authenticity. Which is why we still have to pass laws to wear our hair out, why we were pushed into decrepit neighborhoods and why we’re still deeply mistreated for looking “too black” in the wrong spaces. There’s a very filtered image of us that gets to be famous or be influencers, which is black people with smaller or more so acceptable features. We have full wide black features, we came from the heat. We DEVELOPED this way, there is a minority of black people who have small, Eurocentric features being painted as the majority for a very insidious reason (no shade to them). pretending like they’re the majority is being willingly obtuse and feeding into an idea that is already realistically hurting our community. Let’s not play stupid, she’s a South east Asian woman and she’s specifically attracted to East Asian features. She’s bound to discriminate against full, wide ethnic features, they are the anti-thesis of what she finds attractive and beautiful. It’s okay to admit what is already a reality. she is prejudice against features that belong to a certain people. If you’re willing to consider sides that defend her or let her off the hook, be willing to open your mind listen to black people who have to live under the very REAL microscope for having these features if you actually give a shit. Otherwise keep it moving y’all. Remember, Not ALL black people, but MOST black people have full features. Keep it a buck! EDIT::: ALSO! Key note? if monkey and gorilla comments originally came about to be RACIST toward black people and to dehumanize us… what do you think that makes her if she was caught mimicking the same kind of rhetoric? 🙀 yeah.

@Ohdeyummm

11 ай бұрын

RIGHT

@chibi_okami

11 ай бұрын

I honestly never think if Kooleen is racists at all, I think her jokes is actually for the sake of being funny, not like being serious,

@chibi_okami

11 ай бұрын

I doubt if she even knew if black people have features like that (not trying to ne rude)

@Pinksupernova

11 ай бұрын

@@chibi_okamiyeah well it harms real people whether you like it or not, you’re defending a women who’s grown with a developed brain. She knows that everything she says will have real consequences if they push boundaries of real things. The only people who can joke without consequences are people who are children with undeveloped brains. Are you even black, and if you are, are you an educated black person? Because as far as I know this is black business, because she was talking about BLACK features, so you don’t get to decide if what she did was offensive or not because it will never, and I mean NEVER affect you. Not a day in your life will it ever harm you, this ignorance that she portrays. If it wasn’t as bad as you guys say, then why did she delete it from her video? She knew what she was doing, just because you guys can’t see it doesn’t mean it isn’t reality.

@Ohdeyummm

11 ай бұрын

@@chibi_okami you know who else loves hiding under the satire blanket? Google KZreadrs Colleen and EDP . Yes child predators whos fans believe that they’re just being funny or having jokey jokes with children.

The problem with artists today is that every time they “fix” your art they actually just make your art looks like their art style so it looks “better”

GIRL you do not understand how long ive been waiting for somebody to talk about koolen, ive literally thought al of these things and her tutorials are stupid to me considering how she only "fixes" people art, but she's only teaching everyone how to draw in her specific style... BUT ANYWAYS GREAT VIDEO I LOVE

@thequitefriend1159

11 ай бұрын

I thought I was completely alone on this! People try to play off her actions as dark humor and it’s just wrong! Glad I’m not the only one!

@thecreativeducky5781

11 ай бұрын

let's replace her with ai >:)

@AJ-lm5dl

Ай бұрын

​@@thecreativeducky5781 AI can't recreate her humor.

@thecreativeducky5781

Ай бұрын

@@AJ-lm5dl >:C AI NEEDS TO RULE THE WORLD GRAHHHHH HOW DARE YOU OPPOSE ME MORTAL FOOL

Kooleen would be fine if she was drawing for herself, but considering she is an artist giving out *tutorials*, she influences younger artists to draw exactly like her and it can really hinder their progress

@bensophin

11 ай бұрын

Oh so no wonder I haven’t improved in a year😭 because I was trying to follow her advice

@newvision4l314

11 ай бұрын

I hate those “do this not that” artist who give no real substance/teachings as to why you should draw like them. She’s going to hinder a lot of people, this is why art teachers get mad when you try to draw anime in class lmao

@UniChimma

11 ай бұрын

And also, I followed one of her tutorials and my art was no longer my style, it was Koleen’s style

@vivikyue

11 ай бұрын

@@bensophinfocus on building basic skills like perspective, anatomy, line art, coloring, and let your art style develop naturally by picking up traits here and there from various artists you admire :)

@bensophin

11 ай бұрын

@@vivikyue alright but I need the motivation first😭

i am SO happy people are finally calling kooleen out. shes not fit to teach art, try looking at her sketches and youll understand. her line quality, anatomy skills, perspective are all poor and simply scream beginner. she is too comfortable in her style and refuses to actually improve, and instead all the praise she gets online keeps her in that rut. her tutorials are for her own artstyle and seriously limit young artist's creativity and improvement. please, only take advice from actual professional artists and not some beginner online

@michelle5952

11 ай бұрын

RIGHT!! Ive always felt weird about kooleen because I see people praising her but I feel like she's not more than an intermediate artist. she goes around preaching her art choices as anatomical rules, kind of nice to know I'm not the only one 😭😭 I feel like she draws the same 3 faces

@user-ci2dw1pc4d

11 ай бұрын

​@@michelle5952best part is she cant draw any other face. Check out her Miguel O Hara fanart, she made him look like a eboy 😂

@chibi_okami

11 ай бұрын

She just want attention remember

@michelle5952

11 ай бұрын

@@user-ci2dw1pc4d NO WAY THATS MEANT TO BE MIGUEL 💀 literally an eboy

@xcorpionz922

11 ай бұрын

She teaches her styles, if she doesn't wanna draw something she doesn't have to. Stop forcing artists to draw what you want. If you want art, then make it yourself or commission. I like her art style, but I don't intend on making my style like hers. She gets praise cause her art looks good, stop trying to force teach the "correct" way of drawing. If people are serious about learning art, then they'll look for multiple sources for learning, if they don't then that's on them.

People saying it's anime art. Bro anime has black people like Onyankopon from aot, some are from bleach( i don't watch bleach but i know from tiktok ok) and Hunter x hunter, promised neverland , jujutsu kaisen and more. Also Isayam's art style is imo one of the best ,one they don't follow generic anime doll type art( that kooleen fans say) aot characters all have unique noses and features. Is kooleen also gonna dismiss Isayama's art cuz it's not conventional or fits in her tutorials. Also i used to watch her tutorials and she always draws either pretty white or asian people. It's not wrong. But to fit drawing of black person's profile in that anatomy( which in fact isn't right) is racist. Black people and south asian( i am an Indian) yes ,we have different features and face shapes . There is no perfect side profile. She says she is teaching art but stick to only one race like does other race not exist? Also i think 'fix art' vids generally are not good cuz art isn't supposed to be perfect, it is supposed to convey message , emotions and meaning. Art could be disproportionate and different. That's the essence of art. If you're learning anime/manhwa artstyle it's okay. Watch vids featuring real anatomy. And perspective not some artist who does'nt know anatomy herself. No offense to anyone but kooleen this one can't be overlooked. 'Gorilla looking' i have a lil bit of underbite, my lips protrudes a bit, so acc. to her I'm not fit in anatomy or people with noses other than button just don't exist. That's just wrong on so many level. Hope she understands one day. Also she is quick to response to roast but won't say anything about this, now that just says a lot.

In her other tutorials she calls her viewers "stupid" and "dumb" too and its so freaking annoying when you literally understand everything she says and she just tells you "stupid" "dumb"...

Its sad. There's literally so many Filipino and Philippine based artists that draw diversely than kooleen but they're the ones that get underappreciated and attacked online :(

@Jeri-Berri

11 ай бұрын

That's so true and it's disappointing. Do you have any Filipino artists you'd like to recommend? I'd love to check them out and support them!

@ellenevolyn_

11 ай бұрын

​@@Jeri-Berrisame!! I would love some recommendations of yours

@user.LCW01

11 ай бұрын

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@Rat_Sauce

11 ай бұрын

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@shyloart

11 ай бұрын

Leaving a reply for an update 🙋🏽‍♀️

To me it just seems like kooleens tutorials are more so just another way to show her art and style, rather than an instructional guide that's actually helpful. Also that shit about "gorilla looking mf" is actually crazy damn

This might've been slightly controversial.. but she shouldn't have taught artists her methods to begin with. She's a bad teacher- not a bad artist, but a bad teacher to young and impressionable artists. The fact that she attempted to use the 'right' and 'wrong' teaching method was problematic on its own.

I have seen a couple of people comment on how Kooleen only really draws the same emotionless, manwuah faces which is true but here's the thing, she will draw hyperdetailed, meme type faces at the end of SOME of her tutorials as a joke. This shows she CAN draw some interesting art when she pushes herself to do so but the majority of the time she won't do that. She'll just stick to the old, repetitive method of attractive, euro-centric/East asian models because she knows and acknowledges in her own videos that is what gets her the clout she admits to chasing, she wants the clicks, the views and the likes, and that's the easy route for her. I won't completely blame her for THAT because it's her choice to draw whatever she likes but it's kinda missed potential that she won't experiment with her style and instead will continue with the same old formula.

For me it wasn't the tutorial that really bothered me but the fixing art bit. I mean liquifying the art to have conventionally attractive/eurocentric features feels very upsetting to me. But i blame this on the fact that Koolen probably has a severe case of same face sybdrome. Which if you chek her Instagram and her drawings of miguel you'll be able to see. Because of that she isn't able to acknowledge diverse features because she couldn't draw them even if she wanted to. And there's nothing particularly wrong with that but maybe if that's the case she really shouldn't be fixing art or giving advice or criticism as she puts it.

@Purplanne

11 ай бұрын

Very well put. Thank you

@kikkuqi

11 ай бұрын

u are so right. the people in the comments dont do it for me.

@joelle4226

11 ай бұрын

She called black features gorilla like that’s racist. It’s inexcusable no matter her art style.

@kikkuqi

11 ай бұрын

@@joelle4226 shes racist without even knowing tbh. issue really lies in what she defines as beautiful, which is korean standards, not even asian since asian consists of indians, malays, chinese and many more.

@Ellie-bj2uw

11 ай бұрын

​@@kikkuqisame here. I feel like while yes, the tutorial was racist I feel like the tutorial really wasn't the biggest problem but the art fixing because it's literally her forcing her biases onto another artists work and quite literally blatantly calling the features of a perfectly fine black woman wrong. Especially since black women have historically been shamed for their features so to see an artist literally "correct" perfectly fine features because it's wrong and present her eurol/east asian centric standards as being better feels a lot more racist then the tutorial could have ever been.

kooleen is one of the reasons why i, as a black person, feel so insecure abt my side profile. i personally thought i looked like a monkey & to see other ppl think that as well is absolutely heartbreaking.

@oddpickle

11 ай бұрын

I promise you do not look like a monkey. Do not let insecure people like her ruin how you see your body. You’re carrying the features of your ancestors and you should be proud of that.

@isn3ll3

11 ай бұрын

@@oddpickle thank you. it’s very difficult to remember that sometimes.

@Niosesore

11 ай бұрын

your features are gorgeous! all are: i think an artist that doesn't see that is an ignorant fool, and not an artist really.

@BratzRockAngels

11 ай бұрын

As another Black girl who doesn't have a side profile like that, trust me, you do NOT look like a monkey at all. Those features are literally so gorgeous. Don't let ignorant people think they have a say on your beauty. She didn't even know what literal edges were, age clearly has no clue as to what she is talking about.

@ashlyyap9439

11 ай бұрын

There is nothing wrong with your side profile. Humans have diverse facial features and although art tips found on the internet may help you get an idea of where to place the facial features on a face, tips are just loose guidelines. It's like learning the rules (of course these aren't rules that are set in stone, just a simplification on my part) so you will know where to bend them or break them to suit your style. There are no hard and fast rules to it and even if your features do not follow them, it doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with them. Let me reiterate, your features do not need to follow or fit a certain criteria, don't let one artist who does not understand facial anatomy define how you see yourself because the rules they set for themselves in their art does not reflect real life.

advice on finding good tutorial for begginners : - Nothing is absolute, if they say "always do this" / "never do that" its a red flag, all rules are meant to be brocken in art, even in this comment, there's always exceptions. If you follow a rule too rigidly (i lack a better word) it can make you stuck at some point of your progress, i sure know i did, you'll progress faster by staying flexible. Even one and two point perspective are a lie, they're great tools but far from perfect and can totally be broken. - if they show actual pictures (i mean photos) as a reference and explain how the stylize it, it's a green flag. that way you can know where the feature come from and you can chose to implement it in your art or stylize it a bit differently in a way you're more confortable with - If they don't show or allow diversity in the tutorial, huge red flag. Those tutorials that are "boys vs girls" that only shows muscular dudes and thin girls despite people looking all different from one another usually won't teach you how to draw people and be flexible, but only how to draw those particular two archetypes. Even if you only want to draw "pretty white pinterest girl" type of art, those tutorials usually lack precision. - not exactly about tutorials, but remember why you're doing art. Do you want to be a professionnal ? have professionnal skills ? or do you just draw for fun ? What i mean is, don't stress out too much about not progressing fast enough or not having a popular artstyle : not only is progress slow and ugly, but also, you don't have to progress if you don't want to (and don't want to be professionnal). Internet art community can make you feel like it's a competition and you have to constantly get better when doing art for fun is good enough, even if your art isn't "pretty" in the eyes of most internet people. By knowing exactly what you want, you'll find better tutorials and advices to follow. - don't be afraid of testing out things yourself even when they're ugly, your ugly art matters a lot (also not all art are meant to be pretty).

@diapherotrites

11 ай бұрын

thank you for this!!

Strange to be an artist who can’t see beauty in people

i personally watched kooleen and stopped as soon as i grasped the fact that she draws the same people and essentially excluding poc. i myself am mixed (technically a poc) and enjoyed rin’s tutorials that were more inclusive and provided some insight on features and hair (unlike kooleen). soo i’m 100% rin’s little blind mole and not at all kooleen’s clout chasing clown :) please look at what people say and how they act before you go out and defend them with your whole chest. (Edit: I’ve been getting a lot of steam for saying this. I am Cuban, African American and White. Born in America and i claim no political party. I want my people to be featured in art, but folks can’t express anything without others twisting it. Stop trying to make me out to be a racist. i’m muting my notifications for youtube now. -_-)

@-miaumiau

11 ай бұрын

@@Lilipad08 don’t think this applies to kooleen considering her attitude towards certain things as well as remarks, that alone is not at all the problem people have with her. A LOT of people draw within their comfort zone that’s not the CORE issue. Another aspect is that kooleen is openly giving advice to a younger audience that is quite harmful. Also personally as far as handling skin tones it’s not that hard at its core, if you need to grab a pallet or even just ask that’s what matters as well that you’re aware of the fact it’s not your strong suit imo

@GYMACK

11 ай бұрын

​@@Lilipad08We hear you but just make sure to do more research about poc just in case you ever get a commission

@eepydevil

11 ай бұрын

i have a wonky nose and paper cut lips, that’s part of myself, it’s horrible that i see artists saying drawing humans like exactly that… humans… with imperfections?? is “wrong”.

@rachael4510

11 ай бұрын

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Lilipad08 100% respect your opinion on this but as a fellow artist and Asian American myself I really don’t understand the argument of having a “personal experience” to explain why some artists tend to stay away from drawing darker skinned characters and/or features common to POC. We know they exist. It’s not like they’re fictional characters. And I know that probably wasn’t the point you were trying to make, but I’ve seen a lot of viewpoints take a stance similar to yours that excuses the lack of character diversity for not having a personal experience with it. I believe you don’t need to have an “experience” (for lack of a better term) whether it’s proximity to POC or whatever. And I definitely don’t think not drawing POC makes a person racist either. Honestly it doesn’t have to be that deep, but the excuse of not being around POC to explain why an artist does not draw POC is kinda baseless. That’s just my opinion though, and if you disagree then we can agree to disagree!

@bleep6423

11 ай бұрын

i agree with you but “excluding poc”? she usually draws asian characters, who are poc

Koolen reminds me of an artist I had known and lemme tell ya; some artist say some bs and refuse to admit they're wrong. They can have lovely art and "good" intent but the moment you correct them they scoff and insist they're right. It's insanity tbh. Worst part, people will defend them with their LIVES.

9:05 I agree with this because she’s chronically online and she uses aave multiple times “yassified” “slay” etc words that came very popular from black CREATORS and went viral as a word. You’re telling me you know what that means and say that and you have never even seen a black person with curly hair use edges aka baby hairs. Even the Asian idols use baby hairs sometimes. What the hell is “four eyebrows” smh.

@tammy69711

11 ай бұрын

I’m younger than her and I still know what edges are. It’s pretty popular so I expect her to already know what it is but instead she makes an unfunny joke about it 💀

But the black woman painting also looks like it was made from a reference which makes it even dumber 🤦🏾‍♀️ Also, Cooleen would literally have a heart attack if she saw my side profile bc I’m black and that’s apparently a big no-no

Finally SOMEONE SAID IT .I’ve seen many artists draw darker tones occasionally - but man why can’t they learn some more diverse features instead of just making the character look really tanned .

@fioletowyczowiek4975

11 ай бұрын

literally, it's so upsetting

It’s fine if you don’t want to draw black people, but when you *purposefully* try to “fix” black people art, and make it unrealistic is SO aggravating, especially to someone like me that is black. She first off doesn’t know what edges are💀 and she doesn’t understand how black people work, like she really tried to make the black girls lips smaller???. It’s FURIOUSLY AGGRAVATING. And I can say that it’s not just black people that have bigger lips, there are people around the world with bigger lips that poke out, and for some reason to kooleen that is considered “ugly” ok sure 🤷‍♀️

she doesnt even draw all types of asains, only those "beauty standard" onces

kooleen is the reason why people don’t want to draw different ethnic features other than east asian ones ironically asia is so fucking diverse of so many different features and that’s just asia :/

Diversity wins! All kooleens characters have an overbite

@0k0k0k0k

11 ай бұрын

easily my fav comment by far

@Peppermint_Oof

11 ай бұрын

I have an overbite and hate it

@thereza3

11 ай бұрын

HKEPS 😭😭😭

@HiBuddyyyyyy

11 ай бұрын

I got braces so I don’t have overbite now. I guess I’m not anatomically correct now.

@mittag983

11 ай бұрын

Facts they all look like a yassified Yandere Dev

As a black person thank you for making this video. Forward lips and jaws are features seen mainly on black people, and some other poc. I don’t understand why she thought it would be okay to say it looks like a gorilla.

she ignored the whole allegations and just posted a video..😭

@namesrelaxed4106

11 ай бұрын

Yeah that's just gonna make her look worse 💀

@HighProteinPowder

11 ай бұрын

stage 2. ignore all allegations while googling ways how to apologize and pull a colleen ballinger

@SuperSimpForTheStars

11 ай бұрын

@@HighProteinPowder Kooleen is Colleen... similar name, both problematic. except idfk which one is worse, racist or pedophile.... but Colleen is also racist so

@lomi5987

11 ай бұрын

Cry

@titandarknight2698

11 ай бұрын

She apologized and took down the viedo. What the F do you mean

I just found my new favorite artist

@ms.tinabiscuit

11 ай бұрын

Omg wait its the parody voiceover guy

I, I feel like she Kooleen just discriminated against everyone who has a “gorilla face” -- i.e. people who have more three dimensional facial features than your standard very east Asian person, where the only protruding feature is the nose. But Kooleen isn’t even doing that, she goes the "anime alien head bug eyes" route, or maybe the "webtoon oh no the face is sliding off the head” way describes it better, anyway, not realistic, very stylistic. With apparently zero knowledge of perspective and head angles!!! That beautiful drawing of the black lady in the beginning, not only was her head shape more distinct, she was also tilting her head up. That naturally changes the effing angles! Like, style is fine, but don’t go around claiming yours is the one true way and everything else is garbage! Every opinion is subjective, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and “valid criticism” means f+cking opening your eyes and properly looking at what is before you!!!! And if she says “well I think it’s ugly” well f#ck, I guess she racist. The difference between “eww” and “not my type” is very big, okay... EDIT: I realized that I didn’t express myself well, so I would like to add that her style specifically mirrors the way many Asian girls make themselves look after putting on makeup for taking photos and the photoshopping themselves (which I myself obviously don’t really appreciate). Also, there are many “flawed” facial features like bigger/smaller/flatter/crooked noses, under or overbites, that high cheekbones hollow cheeks look, and so on. And this again comes back to subjective beauty - even then, some horror art can be beautiful and even attractive to certain people, and utterly horrific looking to others. After all, finding something beautiful doesn’t equal wanting to smash it…

@schnozz4301

11 ай бұрын

Woah keep in mind that east asian beaty standards don't represent the 'standard' east asian people's looks

@shirendjorgee9320

11 ай бұрын

@@schnozz4301That’s also true! Whenever people draw East Asian people, they always make them look like K-Pop idols.

@dimensionalmagic

11 ай бұрын

@@shirendjorgee9320 Well, yeah, what they're consuming on a daily basis-like only consuming junk food or anime/manga-does manifest in their art style or works of art in general. For this reason, many people advise stepping outside of such comfort zones. This includes drawing from hot, attractive models/people on Pinterest because the images posted there are carefully chosen and eye-catching.

@dxtura

11 ай бұрын

fun fact too, the east asians you see in media are like fucking unicorns in East Asia. East Asians are actually very prone to jaw problems - for example underbites - which would meet koleen's criteria for "gorilla" face. It's not just racism, it's also (and i kinda hate this term due to the way its been used by certain communities) lookism. She abides by a given standard for her art, which would be fine if she didn't outright demean appearances that don't meet the criterion for that.

@blepblep7245

11 ай бұрын

dude THIS. bc not even east asian ppl look like that. east asians tend to have flatter noses so if you draw a line like that it's gonna land like the "gorilla lookin" one.

Kooleen when people have a different art style: 😦😨😰😱😭

@lian.tb12

11 ай бұрын

​@@artificiallyill2123there's nothing to correct in anything they said, they were right

@Saralightff

11 ай бұрын

@@artificiallyill2123cry harder anime profile user

@Saralightff

11 ай бұрын

@@artificiallyill2123 anime profile user cry harder. Always have terrible opinions and age 13-17. Cry harder

@user-ci2dw1pc4d

11 ай бұрын

​@@artificiallyill2123thats the point of the comment? Like tf did you expect on a kooleen critique video, people praising her?

@AvilioAmici

11 ай бұрын

@@artificiallyill2123 They always use that when they have nothing good to say lmao just ignore them

ngl it's kind of refreshing to see other people agree about all the points made "against" her. I always thought something about her "teachings" were wrong but if you even MENTIONED it in her comments people would jump you💀💀

@tammy69711

11 ай бұрын

FR. I feel so safe in this comment section as I can get it off my chest without people bashing me

@UwU-lm9or

11 ай бұрын

It's okay 😭😭😭 their fans are like fucking dick riders so it's understandable half.of them would fuck her forced mommy voice too 😭😭😭😭

"valid criticism" according to kooleen: "don't have ethnic facial features ❤"

As a person of color this makes me very uncomfortable. As an artist this makes me feel bad about my work. As someone who has a “anime art style” this makes me feel invalid. But this is the KZreadr everyone swears by?? Can we stop platforming these degrading people?? Like this hurts man.

@xi6969

11 ай бұрын

She isn't criticizing anime art styles, she is criticizing the artist's inability to draw different features that don't fit her beauty standard

@tsukitanuki101

11 ай бұрын

@@xi6969I’m criticizing Kolleen. Not the Poster, sorry for the confusion

@xi6969

11 ай бұрын

@@tsukitanuki101 oh sorry, my bad.

@maddleine

11 ай бұрын

You’re so right! there’s ton of artist out there with similar art styles as kooleens who are able to adapt black/poc’s feature into their art. This is more of Kooleen’s poor skillset with diversity showing

@shrug_s8423

11 ай бұрын

you are so right because every art tutorial i see nowadays for portraits/faces are from the same creators who “don’t draw ugly people” and only draw thin white petite girls

Kooleen 👏is 👏Filipino. 👏 She just called a common Filipino facial feature "gorilla-like." I've only ever heard racists use terms like that to insult Black and/or Southeast Asian people. It's like a slur to me. I'm gonna comment this again because this fact was left out of the video and this type of featurism is unfortunately overlooked or just not mentioned most of the time. Ignorance is not applicable here unless she avoided looking at people in the place she was born in.

@thestrikeroftheferrets

11 ай бұрын

being a minority doesn’t stop you from being racist against other minorities

@Jeri-Berri

11 ай бұрын

@@thestrikeroftheferrets What? I'm saying that she's Filipino, so she should know better. I'm not sure where I worded that wrong. Many Southeast Asians are discriminated against for having features that people also associate Black people with. Featurism and colorism is terrible in the Philippines, so I'm not surprised but incredibly disappointed in her.

@Jeri-Berri

11 ай бұрын

This goes beyond simple art tutorials and satire because she is parroting what actual racists say. She's popularizing racist rhetoric, and she deserves to be called out for that. She is actively harming POC and others who have those features that she calls ugly.

@cheesycheese8451

11 ай бұрын

ignorance is not applicable unless she doesn't touch grass lol

@skyllarkuppinger6751

11 ай бұрын

It’s kinda sad tbh bc it’s probably internalized racism. She seems very influenced by East Asian beauty ideals. A protruding mouth is really really common in East Asian ethnicities. She’s calling her own feature ugly.

In koolens videos there are so many people saying “yeah she said something racist but she didn’t mean it and she apologized 🥺” no she knew what she was doing, and ofc she apologizes on twitter of all places? She doesn’t even make an effort on any other platforms and again lmao but there’s so many other things she has done. Like her art “advice” advice isn’t even advice it’s just her turning others art into her art style, art advice is when you give lighting advice or angle correction not changer their whole head anatomy 💀 and she ain’t even doing the anatomy right. If she doesn’t even know how anatomy works she shouldn’t be giving tutorials and criticizing people who do know how anatomy works 🫡

im a brown person. i've always been so insecure about my race and skin colour. i've been critisized for my looks, how my lips and chin kinda stick out. my curls in my hair. i never liked her. she's got wasted talent. i feel she focuses too much on only drawing "pretty" people (EA people, to her) and when she does see art of a darker skinned character, she feels the urge to fix it because of her racist thoughts. i'm not a gorilla. i'm not something that needs fixing. i am a human being.

@stripedpolkadots8692

11 ай бұрын

You are never an issue when people say things like this, they are the ones with skill issues, knowledge issues, and social issues.

@Down_foal

11 ай бұрын

I'm afraid that she will never feel responsible or guilty for everything she does...

@artemis3876

11 ай бұрын

Black features are beautiful! Be proud because you're beautiful and unique!❤

@sm1purplmurderedme583

6 ай бұрын

lol EA ppl don’t even look like this just the very few who get surgery

I defended her with my life before but seeing this now... 😭 Bro why did she say that :((

@dumpie4155

11 ай бұрын

SAME 😭

@ingambsr

11 ай бұрын

Lmao I never liked her at first place since I always saw these red flags, I mean just LOOK at her art, any art. And of course I don’t care what she drew, I only hated her because she was teaching wrong shit to youngsters and them always praising her and actually using her method.

@mariamalkteeb1298

11 ай бұрын

Same here I'm regretting my life choices now💀💀💀

@Aeiouaaaaaaaaa

11 ай бұрын

Honestly I’m just glad people are starting to realize how terrible her advice is

@parasol3561

11 ай бұрын

I’m guessing she said that because she ignorant and young. All she needs to do is just apologize and try to move on, and not repeat the previous mistakes.

I think Kooleen needs to get her ukelele out now 😐

@bensophin

11 ай бұрын

“toxic gossip train”🎼🎶🎵🎤🎧🥁🎹🎸🎤🤸‍♀️😨🥰😍🤸🏻‍♂️💃🏻

@noisui

11 ай бұрын

kooleen ballinger fr

@aliceheartscharuca

11 ай бұрын

pretty sure it’ll be an animatic

@kiiroi.o

11 ай бұрын

@@noisui hahhaha yess

@SP4C1AL

11 ай бұрын

"the only thing i haven't drawn is an ugly person, not a racist, just a loser😖"

she has now apologized (with a terrible apology, one of her excuses being “i don’t consume much western media 🥺🥺🥺🥺”) and her fans are babying her and defending her in any way possible. what a world we live in….

@noagodel1175

11 ай бұрын

I'm sorry what- 💀 Are you sure you saw CORRECTLY her apologize cuz I DON'T THINK SO 💀💀

@NathasyaStellaHermanus

10 ай бұрын

@@noagodel1175 Nah, we're pretty sure we saw them correctly, and hilariously Kooleen wrote the apology on the note app

@mysterymischief4946

10 ай бұрын

Oh god a racist probably white or East Asian kooleen Stan 😐😐💀 shiver me Timbers 🥶🥶

@murmirr

10 ай бұрын

shes literally like 20 years old. a grown woman. she needs to get over herself.

The fact that kooleen is ignoring the whole situation and pretend she don’t know about the drama is crazy…

When I first found Kooleen it took me a week to find her annoying and unhelpful, I love to draw diversely and so her tutorials on the same copy paste people with a strong case of same face syndrome were extremely unhelpful. She refuses to accept that there are different types of art and different types of styles (I am already against the 'better' artists fixing others art thing so the changing of the face, the most important part of a person really made me mad) Though within the same week of discovering Kooleen I was also introduced to Rin, at first I thought they would be very similar until the more I watched of Rin the better the advice was. Rin's advice is not only helpful but diverse (including with stylized art and more realistic art) so after I decided to drop Kooleen which honestly is a much better decision to me. I am a proud little blind mole.

I remember a teacher telling us to be careful about tutorials because we might be learning that person's mistakes. Btw, i recommend jackie droujko if you want an art review! she respects the art style and focuses on anatomy and technical points

@Down_foal

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for your recommendation, I'll definitely check her channel. Wait, she was the one who did fantastic job on "Bang bang - animation"?

im literally asian (south east asian just like kooleen is) and according to her tutorials im anatomically incorrect 💀

Kooleen kinda icked me when I used to stumble on her videos when she called some drawings ugly or said that she doesn’t draw “ugly people” and all that obsession with making all the characters hot (conventionally attractive) didn’t really sit right with me so I didn’t watch her. I feel like you can have a lot of variety in your characters and they can be hot just not in one way that she seems to do all the time (lean, muscular, fitting the beauty standards and stuff). Turns out the situation is even worse than I thought :(

One of my biggest mistakes as a beginner was following her tutorials 🤦‍♀️ I had to unlearn so many things just to improve my art

@ingambsr

11 ай бұрын

Please look at artist who draws lots of diverse stuff when you’re deciding to learn! They literally have more experience. Next time you see a artist with same face syndrome in each of their drawing please remember to run ☺️ like Kooleen and samdoesart, im not insulting their art it’s just that they are NOT FIT to teach.

@user-ci2dw1pc4d

11 ай бұрын

​@@ingambsryou can take advice from sam, but from personal experience i think you can only apply his patreon tutorials since other than that you wont learn much

@Vamptre

11 ай бұрын

@@user-ci2dw1pc4d For Sam atleast he shows other artists that have extremely different artstyles from his so even if you cant learn from him you can learn from the other people he mentions

@cheesycheese8451

11 ай бұрын

ethan becker is a really great artist! however i don't think he has many free tutorials

@ingambsr

11 ай бұрын

@@cheesycheese8451 honestly, watching his "free" vids in yt alone is more better than watching Kooleen's tutorials. 😭

Honestly I'm not surprised that so many young artists that follow these tutorials end up with something similar to her style. When she's so incredibly unspecific, you'd kind of have to copy the image + therefore her style exactly to get any benefit out of it, lol.

@D4yxO

11 ай бұрын

Also she doesn’t even draw other body types. It’s buff males and skinny females only. Doesn’t draw different faces, different skin tones, nothing. If you told me all the people she drew were the same person with their hair dyed I’d believe it 100%

@elvingearmasterirma7241

11 ай бұрын

​@@D4yxO After learning about her art I dont feel bad about my own art anymore At least my characters can be distinguished via their different _jawlines_

@UniChimma

11 ай бұрын

I followed one of her tutorials and when my art was finished I realized it was no longer my style, it was kooleen’s

Reading the comments, I can see people are having their Twitter moment and misunderstanding what the "drama" is all about, so I'd like to shed some light and whether it reaches the darkness is up to the you. I'd like to note that I'm not familiar with Kooleen (nor Rin), but I think the facts present hold up on their own. A lot of people - Kooleen supporters - are taking it as an attack on Kooleen's style or artistic freedom (i.e., forcing her to draw diverse characters), which is not the truth of the situation. (Though engaging in a little diversity doesn't hurt.) She can draw whatever she wants for herself. The issue arises from the fact that she's making tutorials for _others_ to follow, and that the advice she's given, at least when it comes to faces, is anatomically inaccurate at best and racially insensitive at worst, and has for sure had a negative affect on folks both artistically and mentally. In her facial tutorial she presents us with two figures, one she deems correct and the other she calls "gorilla looking"😒, therefore wrong. "There's no wrong way to do art" is a phrase that I'm sure we artists have heard a thousands times over, but it rings pretty true. By saying the face on the right is wrong, she's cutting off an avenue from learners who look up to her to improve their art by exploring different, very real facial structures. Objectively, that is a normal face - one of many normal faces you can find on real people of any color if you just look outside. She's also cutting off an avenue for anyone with this face shape to feel anything but insecure, which you can see some express in the comments below. Maybe she doesn't like to draw flat faces, and she doesn't have to, but perpetuating that they're wrong to draw is not baller. And despite deeming the "gorilla looking" one wrong, it's actually closer to what a standard skull looks like. The skull typically runs on a fairly straight line down from the forehead and does not slope inward. And while doing all of this, she claims she doesn't draw ugly people which certainly is kind of alarming as many people with this face type are POC. Can POC be ugly? Yes. Can POC with flat faces be ugly? Certainly. But having a flat face doesn't make one ugly by default. So this begs the question, what makes a good, general art tutorial? There's a wide range of styles and techniques so a teacher should try to be fairly broad, unless they're specifically gearing to a particular style, and not bash other ways of doing things. They should be objective and based in reality, using knowledge of actual human anatomy and physiology as a guide so that learners can take that knowledge and mold it to fit their needs - their style. The job of the teacher (sometimes literally) is to provide the learner clay. (Someone that does a great job at this is Sinix, who I recommend whole-heartedly. Whether it be rendering skin or drawing thighs, he's got you covered.) The same should be applied to critique as well. And while I've been inform that Kooleen has hashtags to indicate whether you want her to roast your art or critique it, and that the person who did the painting of the black woman with gold wanted to be roasted, but it seems she was giving critique anyway? What distinguishes the two? (And why would you want your art roasted anyway? Masochism? Self depreciation?) Anyway, if the painting were to be objectively critiqued and not liquefied to fit Kooleen's specific taste, the eyes and brow could stand to be moved forward. The eyes should also appear more like a triangle as the eyelids taper together. Both things that Kooleen did and I'll give her credit for because that was the right move. Everything else... no. *TL;DR You can draw whatever you want, however you want, for yourself, but as someone with a platform made to "educate", you should be weary of bashing other techniques and features, especially when the guidelines you abide by and present for others to follow are not anatomically correct to begin with.* That is all.

Calling someone with a healthy bone structure (not a mouth breather, basically) a gorilla is insane