Konstantin Kisin on The Attempted Cancellation of Douglas Murray
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@vecernicek2
2 ай бұрын
Sorry, cannot help, already subscribed :)
@MelbourneMeMe
2 ай бұрын
Has Francis been at the gym or is it a new haircut? He looks a lot better here, much funnier too...
@iamkesha.
2 ай бұрын
Cancel those who want to cancel others.
@ConspiracyPundit
2 ай бұрын
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@PermaBear-bi9jk
2 ай бұрын
You’d have more credibility if you stopped deleting comments…Others have noticed this too on your other videos. The only ones left look paid for posters, not a good look…
Lets cancel the cancel culture! :-)
@markschattefor6997
2 ай бұрын
Lets bring education back to the standards of 50 years ago. People should be proud if they are plumber, bricklayer, elektrician , roofer, mechanic, etc etc etc. And people should be hired on their qualifications and not on their race/colour or being a woman ( or both).
@madmelwood3778
2 ай бұрын
Ooh yes please
@ArchADB
2 ай бұрын
Only a brown horse leaves a stable at noon
@MrTaytersDeep
2 ай бұрын
Then tell them it doesn't exist as it's happening
@Mr_Dopey
2 ай бұрын
Just remember Muslims don't assimilate, they infiltrate.
They're going to try to cancel Douglas Murray? Those poor bastards.
@ddruprup12ify
2 ай бұрын
Good Luck.
@PermaBear-bi9jk
2 ай бұрын
Poor him more like. Douglas only cares about $$$, that’s why he repeatedly appears on Murdoch networks to defend Israel’s repeatedly indefensible behaviour.
@republica13
2 ай бұрын
So why won't Murray debate Norman Finkelstein?
@unknownweirdo077
2 ай бұрын
Douglas Murray is like Ben Shapiro about denying genocide of Gazans people and keeps calling for war mongering.
@Sidera17
2 ай бұрын
@@unknownweirdo077 There's truth in this. It does trouble me greatly. I really like him as a public intellectual for his takes on a lot of Western and anti-Western stuff. His call-out of actual anti-Semitism post Oct 7th, and his coverage of what Israelis suffered in the attack was good, but there's this weird, gaping hole of acknowledgement about what is happening to Gazans as a result, and it deeply troubles me.
If you have to cancel or silence someone it means that you are afraid that their argument is stronger than yours.
@shaneashby5890
2 ай бұрын
I agree and well said.
@joedennehy386
2 ай бұрын
And of course in Douglas Murrays case is.
@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid
2 ай бұрын
Bingo
@CarolWoosey-ck2rg
2 ай бұрын
Absolutely right 🏴
@Imitatechrist
2 ай бұрын
It's ironic that Put'n opposes it [on the outside], yet does exactly the same.
Anyone attempting to cancel Douglas Murray will probably find themselves being canceled by Douglas Murray. Never seen a guy come up with such clever responses to idiocy.
@johns9969
2 ай бұрын
Well, Shapiro had a good streak on free speach, and that fell apart.
@irisharan3038
2 ай бұрын
His late great friend Christopher Hitchens was far better.
@UKParadiseLost
2 ай бұрын
@@irisharan3038 I don't know about FAR better, but Christopher Hitchens was a massive loss to the world.
@madmelwood3778
2 ай бұрын
and he would agree
@MrSyphon28
2 ай бұрын
HE IS A BEAST!
You will never cancel Douglas Murray. This great man speaks loud and proud, which means he owns his words. The world needs his honour
@peterjohnston4472
2 ай бұрын
Hes far too articulate for these useful idiots
You can't cancel a person who doesn't care about it.
@Zac_Frost
2 ай бұрын
You gotta play the game to be able to lose it.
@ScottDukesRealEstate
2 ай бұрын
I wish your point were true. The problem is MSM, our current Gov't in the US and other Gov'ts, to include social media cancel causing loss of income via censorship, political attacks, arrest, etc. Look what's happened and continues to happen to Trump like him or not. Even Kennedy opposing Biden for presidential run. The good news is there are other platforms accepting these people. Twitter/X is one and Rumble. Let's hope a FB competitor starts too. However, the gov't is a hard one to beat when they guard the hen house.
@eddieclutton2627
2 ай бұрын
Nor his supporters who feel the same.
@RonSill1986
Ай бұрын
It usually has the opposite effect
Anti black? I am a black woman who dearly love Douglas Murray and his work
@catscan2022
Ай бұрын
I've never heard him say anything that's anti black.
@dominicbrant1968
Ай бұрын
I find the man deeply annoying and I hate his style, but I have to accept he's mostly right - as much as I can understand what he says lol
@catscan2022
Ай бұрын
@@dominicbrant1968 couldn't agree more. He seems to me to be a total snob but I disagree with gagging orders
@Brandon-fv5sm
Ай бұрын
I was totally stunned to hear that too! I have never heard him say anything like that either!
@HeyCutie90
Ай бұрын
I love Douglas. He’s not saying anything that Black conservatives haven’t been saying for decades. It’s just that he’s a white guy so people have an easy way to discredit him.
Keep going Douglas!! Cancel culture needs to stop.
@greendragonspirit1646
2 ай бұрын
Murray supports the genocide of the Palestinians, he's a zionist!
@randomhuman2595
2 ай бұрын
Douglas hates cancel culture until it comes to cancelling pro Palestinian protestors
@ToriZealot
2 ай бұрын
LOL, are you Ben Shapiro?
@richardball1879
2 ай бұрын
'cept he's a racist lickspittle for Israeli war crimes.. The Hague awaits ..
@PermaBear-bi9jk
2 ай бұрын
Douglas is digging his own grave because bizarrely he’s viewing Gaza genocide through the culture war lens. He’s really showed his limitations…
I “strongly” agree with mostly everything Douglas Murray has to say! We need more people like him and Konstantine in the UK leading our country
Douglas Murray is a tower of intellect and facts. He couldn't care less about those ignoramuses throwing tantrums.
Douglas Murray is UN-CANCELLABLE! You know why? Because he speaks the ABSOLUTE TRUTH AND HE DOES IT WITH COURAGE, CONVICTION AND CHUTZPAH!
@bayreuth79
2 ай бұрын
What arrant nonsense. Murray is God, is he?
@manusha1349
2 ай бұрын
@@amunrah7483 I'm not sure who you are or why you would say that, but please delete your comment
@manusha1349
2 ай бұрын
@@amunrah7483 please remove your comment
@pauldaniels7543
2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@pauldaniels7543
2 ай бұрын
@@manusha1349 murry is a c#@t
No one cancels Douglas...and konstantin......never either of them ....
I am Aussie and I love Douglas Murray.
@metgirl5429
2 ай бұрын
Ditto 🕊
@PermaBear-bi9jk
2 ай бұрын
Because you’re a moron who was brainwashed my the Murdoch channels that Murray takes $$$ from.
@TGTDestiny
2 ай бұрын
Im surprised Sydney is trying to cancel him, i'd expect that shit here in Melbourne.
You can't cancel forces of nature, such as wind, fire, or Douglas Murray.
Douglas Murray is a great man. If you cancel him, I will play his message twice as loud and support him even more.
I love when the protestors list their reasons for wanting to cancel someone. It’s always so pathetic that it’s amusing.
Good luck trying to cancel Douglas Murray!!!
@brick6347
2 ай бұрын
Oh but they can. All he's got to do is say something that that offends the sensibilities of a completely stable and reasonable person in Scotland and he's going to prison.
@furq1399
2 ай бұрын
@@brick6347this could be interesting.... extradition to Scotland????
@greendragonspirit1646
2 ай бұрын
Murray is a Zionist, enough said!
@brick6347
2 ай бұрын
@@furq1399yup. That is indeed their new law! If he's in the UK, nicked. In theory the law applies to the whole world if a Scot reads it. I doubt they'd try and extradite from most countries, but I'm sure the EU & commonwealth countries like Australia, Canada, and New Zealand will play along. USA... 50:50, depends where you are. Can't imagine Florida doing it, California probably would.
@jamescoburn6789
2 ай бұрын
@@brick6347 This is incorrect. It is not covered by extradition. And you cannot extradite when that law is not on your books.
Douglas Murray is one of the Sharpest Guys we have alive right now. If we had life like He lives we would be the best place in the world ever. He is a Great man . God Speed
@urstube6901
2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately his rhetoric on Islam is far from intelligent , it’s utterly pathetic and makes him look stupid
@PermaBear-bi9jk
2 ай бұрын
If he’s so sharp why does he avoid debating the most knowledgeable people on Israel Palestine like George Galloway? He just sits on Murdoch channels regurgitating Zionist propaganda for $$$.
Douglas Murray speaks for the vast majority of us.
Douglas Murray is exactly the type of person who should be given a wide platform to express his views. He makes people think, he challenges the narrative, and he’s a patriot.
I do not understand why people think they have the right to prevent others from listening to someone. If they don’t want to go, that’s fine but who are they to stop others from seeing that person.
So glad the theatre didn't't give in, his show was great, and none of us were perturbed by the protest outside. Keep up the good work 👍🏿
Douglas Murray is the voice of reason and sense.
@molepup
2 ай бұрын
No, he's a voice that should allowed to be heard. He's also a career minded sensationalist who ramps up his rhetoric while his agent ramps up his fee. Don't for a minute think these people aren't working their up the ranks as much as anybody. I really like Douglas being in the mix, but he is one of many who should be allowed to talk.
The issue here they aren't cancelling an idea, but the truth.
@OddityDK
2 ай бұрын
So if they were canceling a “falsehood” it would be ok? Well guess what, from their point of view they are. The issue is exactly NOT they are canceling the truth, that’s irrelevant and a matter of perspective. Cancelling people is the issue, nothing else.
@JoaoSoares-rs6ec
2 ай бұрын
@@OddityDK a person challenging the narrative by telling the truth, see how it goes.
May as well try to cancel the Sun.
@Seekingsophia00
2 ай бұрын
Bill Gates is trying!
Douglas Murray is an English national treasure.
@eddieclutton2627
2 ай бұрын
Yes, but his truth belongs to the world
@kimmie411
2 ай бұрын
And he's actually Scottish
@eddieclutton2627
Ай бұрын
@@kimmie411 Really? Wow; sounds V. English. A great British treasure..
@vatsal7640
Ай бұрын
@@kimmie411no, he is English. But the surname is scottish.
How dare anyone try to cancel Douglas Murray!
@greendragonspirit1646
2 ай бұрын
He acts like a colonial master, but I don't think he should be cancelled because it's funny when someone proves him wrong .
@brandyhaywood6256
2 ай бұрын
@@greendragonspirit1646 I haven’t found anyone with the intellectual ability or knowledge to prove him wrong. If you study history then intellectually you have a massive advantage over the cult like members who just repeat the mantras about things they clearly don’t understand. Murray reigns supreme in intelligence and honesty concerning world affairs, and has been proved right numerous times. That’s why so many are afraid of him.
@greendragonspirit1646
2 ай бұрын
@brandyhaywood6256 just because he takes 30 minutes to make a 5 minute point doesn't mean he's intelligent, in my opinion his ego is bigger than his brain! Why doesn't he want to have a debate with Norman finklestein about the genocide against the Palestinians, I'll tell you why, it's because he knows he would lose and his huge ego wouldn't be able to cope.
@brandyhaywood6256
2 ай бұрын
@@greendragonspirit1646 I understand why you would say that but I don't agree. Finklestein is so angry I don't think he's able to have a sensible debate with anyone. I can't agree with you about Murray's ego. I just think he's a hardworking war correspondent - very similar to Christopher Hitchens - who I think has a photographic memory and does meticulous research. He has a great knowledge of history, just like Hitchens had. I wonder whether you have read his books and seen his debates in full? He speaks to truth - a very rare gift in today's society. The fact that not everyone agrees with him is fine, however if the reason for that is down to a soundbite or a biased journalist who is jealous of him, then that's just not sensible good reasoning and research.
@davecarson3D
2 ай бұрын
@@greendragonspirit1646blahblah
If they cancel him it will have the reverse effect, so good luck with that stupid action.
Wokery is an absolutist binary secular religion. There is black and white, no shades of gray or agreeing to disagree, nothing to learn: only “obey or you’re the enemy”.
@synaesthesia4183
2 ай бұрын
Its Marxism, its an intentional attack on the West!
@cioccolateriaveneziana
2 ай бұрын
Just like every religion... Also the cancelling part. Just like any other religion.
@digitalnomad9985
2 ай бұрын
@@cioccolateriaveneziana Protestantism created the modern libertarian west. We (Protestants) ended slavery; implemented religious freedom, political freedom, academic freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press FIRST, and thus caused the academic, scientific, technological, and material progress that followed; and most of the rest of the world hasn't caught up with it yet. John 8:32 "You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free. "Religion" is such a broad term that virtually no generalizations can be applied to the "whole". If you want questions of fact to be settled by force (the ultimate recourse of the obscurantist), you really can't beat atheism, and its derivatives (including wokeism), it has a singularly abysmal track record. From the Jacobin Reign of Terror in the French Revolution, through the Soviet Union, the Third Reich, Communist China, and the Pol Pot regime; the result of a society based on atheism has invariably been bloodbath after bloodbath. The USSR alone murdered more of its own civilians than have ever been killed in all the inquisitions, pogroms, and purely religious wars in recorded history, and they only lasted: what? 80 or so years?
@matthewbazeley2984
2 ай бұрын
@@digitalnomad9985 ah the atheist atrocities fallacy. . Hitler was a Christian, Pol pot was a Buddhist and Stalins communism was a state religion built around him.
@Phaevryn
2 ай бұрын
That's how narcissists operate.
KZread's algorithm can find the subtlest sign of wrong think in my comments and delete them. But robots with thong avatars and the same stock comment ad nauseum can post as much as they like. Seems totally legit.
@JamesCairney
2 ай бұрын
The comments don't get deleted due to "wrong think" they get deleted to reinforce the addiction to social media by introducing "uncertainty". A study conducted on rats addicted to cocaine showed that if an "uncertainty" was introduced as to whether or not they would get their "fix" this caused the addiction to deepen. What happens when a post of yours vanishes for no reason? Do you try harder to get your next post seen? Addiction reinforcement.
@brick6347
2 ай бұрын
My solution is I just use Rvmble more and more frequently and not worry about it. And I do think you have a point, but KZread definitely has a list of naughty words.
@brick6347
2 ай бұрын
@@JamesCairney maybe. But my first reply got deleted! I can even tell you which word did it... oh wait, I can't. I grumbled that I spending more time grumbling than watching youtube. If you catch my drift? I think you have a fair point, and I hadn't considered it to be fair. But the algo definitely has verboten words, or combinations thereof. And there's some sort of rudimentary AI that polices them.
@shaneashby5890
2 ай бұрын
Just the other day, when I logged into KZread, a note instantly came up on my screen saying that if I didn’t stop giving my conservative opinion, then they would delete my Google account. And I’m now officially shadow-banned, and now 90% of my comments are deleted by the algorithm. Free speech doesn’t exist on this platform.
@soulfuzz368
2 ай бұрын
The creepy part is the humans that are almost identical to the bots, not the other way around.
I think it was Sir Winston Churchill who said, "The biggest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter".
@julianshepherd2038
2 ай бұрын
He said that democracy was the worst system, apart from all the others. Jog on Fa boy
@Parawingdelta2
2 ай бұрын
@julianshepherd2038 Not sure of the relevance of the last bit (re "Jog on") unless, it was a derisive remark directed at me, but there seems to be a lot of support lately for a theocracy. Either way, I think either of the quotes could have some legitimacy.
@redmed10
Ай бұрын
@@Parawingdelta2so you support a theocracy? Good grief. They haven't worked very well in the past and in the present. Give me democracy any time. Winston Churchill was a mixed bag.
I hope Douglas is doing well in 🇦🇺
Great Britain 🇬🇧 loves and needs Douglas Murray
Good bloody luck! Douglas is unstoppable
*The security of property and the freedom of speech always go together; and in those wretched countries where a man cannot call his tongue his own, he can scarce call anything his own. Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech* .” ― Benjamin Franklin “ *Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves, and, under a just God, cannot long retain it* .” - Abraham Lincoln
@jennytaylor262
2 ай бұрын
Outstanding quotes. Thank you.
I won't lie to you, I laughed at the soy comment the second time as well. He said it clearer, I genuinely didn't hear it when Konstantin said it the first time!
Dang, Bradley Cooper is a great interviewer. I would not have expected that.
One thing that should be cancelled and thats Islam........ and everyone that follows it.
@unknownweirdo077
2 ай бұрын
Well somebody believes 9/11 was real or Lybia, Syria, Iraq and Afganistan was about liberating countries.
The fragile ones try to cancel anyone who speaks the truth and have a lot of followers. It just means you're on the right side of history if they try to silence you.
@dandare1001
2 ай бұрын
Not necessarily, but yes, that is often the case.
Douglas Murray is brilliant. Anyone trying to prevent him from speaking is allowing their own idiocy to run around in the streets stark naked.
If it’s woke….don’t fix it.Fight it but do not ignore it.
@cioccolateriaveneziana
2 ай бұрын
Maybe ignoring is the right answer. If they want you to apologize, don't. If they want you to withdraw some statement, stand your ground. Wokeism only works on people who go by its rules, so let's not.
@shaneashby5890
2 ай бұрын
Concede nothing to the woke mob absolutely nothing.
Omnipresent Greetingz cuzinz 👍
Douglas is GOAT ❤
@metgirl5429
2 ай бұрын
What is a GOAT ?
@1967hashem
2 ай бұрын
@@metgirl5429 A goat is an animal. I don't agree that Douglas is a goat.
@davidkirby8836
Ай бұрын
Being the goat often means the greatest of all time usually heard in sports eg Messi is the goat. I hope this helps.
@1967hashem
Ай бұрын
@@davidkirby8836 Thanks for that. I think Americans always like to shorten words haha.
Douglas Murray ferments the truth
Konstantin is not alone. I too have deep cancel envy. The only one trying to cancel me is KZread. Surely they can do better than that? 😥
Don’t always agree with him but always enjoy listening to his intelligent conversations.
Cancel Douglas Murray?! Just cancel objectivity, while your at it!
If you are being cancelled, you are doing something good.
A cancellation is always an admission of a mistake, someone made plans which now must be cancelled. The criticism of cancel culture is that the people making the decision to cancel bare none of the costs for the cancellation.
I just love Douglas Murray and Konstantin Kisin! They tell it like it is!
@user-pz4xe2ks3v
2 ай бұрын
I love Putin too. He just does what he says! Doesn’t just yap about it!
@apuestasfutbol
2 ай бұрын
@@user-pz4xe2ks3v😂😂😂😂😂
We cannot have people, more intelligent than ourselves, opposing our arguements & beliefs. We must close them down. ( it's only right ). Says what kind of person ?.
@dandare1001
2 ай бұрын
A Nazi? A hard-line communist? A dictator?
Letters, screeds, news hype, magazine articles against in some publications, multiplied online, blogs, vlogs, KZread, TikTok, marches, protest, disruptive marches, disruptive protests, use of government agencies, permitting, citing safety and security concerns, death threats, crowd sourced death threats, and on, and on with an ever unceasing threat and use of violence and arson. All so you can’t hear a writer talk about his books. Now you tell me, which is a threat to liberty, and the free discourse of ideas in an exceedingly complex world.
I saw him in Perth, met and spoke with him. He is uncancellable. He is everything and more. Legend.
We need more exposure to ideas like Douglas Murray not less. Why have university students and faculty developed such distorted ideas on everything from gender to politics in Israel. From freedom of ideas we’ve come to - believe only what we want you to believe or we’ll shut down your platform. And this is all done using virtue signalling as their flag…
Konstantin is brilliant and such a pleasure to listen to.
Douglas Murray is someone I agree with about many things, but lately I find I disagree with him on some subjects. That being said, he has every right to express himself freely, as does every one of us. We also have the right to disagree with him. That's the beauty of free speech 🙃
I like KK. Maybe he will be cancelled like Douglas some day?🤷♀️
I'm waiting for the day when Douglas Murray will be called straight inside 😂
Murray keeps showing up on my KZread how the hell has he been cancelled?
No one should not be able to speak. Period. If you don’t agree show up and debate or just ignore it.
Douglas Murray publicly says what many of us think but don’t have a public forum to speak. The truth is the truth still even if no one wants to hear it.
CIS is awesome! Great videos and guests.
We are right here KK - we are here. Huge fan of Douglas - he and JP - LOL.
University tests have shown that continued cancelling on a soy diet is not sustainable.
How is Murray anti-black? 😅
@Patrick3183
2 ай бұрын
I’m anti black too
Konstantin, Douglas, and Tommy should run for office.
Love the part where he says "just make a better argument than Douglas Murray". So basically no then.
@greencloud2225
2 ай бұрын
Haha I’ve never seen any one succeed yet!
Douglas is only getting more popular.
super helpful
Douglas Murray is too erudite, too intelligent, and too interesting to be cancelled.
Douglas Murray is invincible to cancellation
Plenty of people have been known to Ram down doors effectively and in a Siege on a soy diet because before the industrial revolution peasants diets were very low on meat(exception of mongols). Wheat, rice, soy etc made up the bulk of humanities diet before the industrial revolution. Thats history 101.
They did the same to Ayan
Cancelling from the community is what was done to Spinoza. So no cancelling from the community. Absolutely not!
More chance of cancelling Clarkson.
@madmelwood3778
2 ай бұрын
And they have failed to so that repeatedly
Good luck trying to cancel Douglas 😂😂
Douglas Murray is a legend!
@SuqAdiq
2 ай бұрын
is he ??
Remember we must sit on Douglas Murray's shoulder and repeat "your just a man, your just a man" necessary to keep the ego in check. I'm sure he would agree. We don't want to lose his brilliant mind 💪👍
Douglas speaks for us all- the wokes are running scared - we need Douglas in our government 🏴
They tried to cancel Oscar Wilde. So much for that idea.😮
I believe it's the ultimate proof how important Douglas is! Keep going DM!!!!! 🙌
Douglas Murray can put anyone in their place without raising his voice or even an eyebrow. He’s a joy to watch when when the right ones unravel before your eyes.
The CIS font is exactly the same as the Co-op Insurance Society i used to work for 20 years ago
The only way to beat “cancel culture” is to refuse to be cancelled. Simple. Don’t apologize, don’t capitulate, don’t question your beliefs.
Konstantin. Look at you! You look like a combination of Jordan Peterson and Henry Cavil. The Übermensch embodied. What better advertisement for conservatism. Keep crushing it mate.
It is very concerning that those who speak the truth and speak factually, the government, main stream media, and certain social media want to shut them down and cancel them. There is supposed to be a democracy and freedom of speech in this country so why is there a culture of dictatorship of what is permitted to be said?
Agree with everything Douglas says, believes in.
well...good luck cancelling Douglas Murray
A lot of people didn't get the "I don't remember when Russia struggled with democracy" joke.
You can only be canceled if you bow down to those intent on the cancelation. I'm sure someone's been trying to cancel Mr Murray, for one reason or another, for a number of years, and yet.....still here. More people are standing up for those to whom the system tries to gaslight....be brave people, stand firm, and God Bless.
@kevinwhelan9607
2 ай бұрын
You said it❤
Good luck trying to go into battle with Douglas Murray. He is a formidable warrior.
Let’s just cancel the cancel culture, they are beyond the pale.
why all the bots?
@ChorltonandtheWheelies
2 ай бұрын
@lallalucas4145. Thank you for being on "bot alert"!! It's so annoying to see all the porn boys - surely there are enough spaces on the Internet for porn without them encroaching on our spaces? Thanks for calling them out 😊✌
They can't cancel the truth . And Murray is the truth. Case closed
Sometimes cancel culture cancels the people who ought to be cancelled. Murray Douglas playing Netanyahu’s attack dog is one of those rare examples.
What’s the difference between cancel culture and simply not buying a ticket to the entertainment?
Douglas Murray is the Dave Chappelle of politics. He is uncancellable. You can't cancel the smartest man in the room.
@dandare1001
2 ай бұрын
He's only the smartest man in the room when he's alone in the bathroom, or sharing it with you.
@o00nemesis00o
2 ай бұрын
Dandare1001, you already proved that’s not true.
trying to can Douglas Murray is like trying to outwit Jordan Peterson
Imagine stopping someone from talking, speaks a lot for how fragile they are.