after 20k on pretty related bike few personal comments absolutely true for low, very low gears - not also for climbing.... there a days when you are so happy having them, like being just tired eye c t light is quite neet, but by far not the best at actual market. I went through some of b&m products (also eye c) and now sticking to battery solution and usb power bank in pocket. Get another one, this one is average at best handles are famous for becoming sticky crap after short time... my alternative: wearing gloves for more grip & comfort two way of handling chips in paint: install thick foil in critical areas (cost only few $) or just ignore them this specific kickstand is crap, especially on back, few other of this supplier a bit better. go for another supplier acknowledge that frame, frame size fitting you and saddle + drive train are crucial. Any other component will / shall be exchanged to own need or preference otherwise: nice and detailed review, cheers!

Great honest review! I also have a Koga World traveler but then the signature. So I was able to customize it to my liking. I ride my bike for almost 10k and last may from the Netherlands via Germany, the Alps to Rome Italy mostly on gravel roads and my bike still looks brand new without any damage on paint or materials. And believe me, I’am clumsy as hell 😂 Okay my version costs 3500 Euros but did you buy the starter version with lower specs? Compliments for your channel. Immediately opt-in ✅

You're really charming! And funny to notice that my guess about where you are from was right, no non-native speakers ever pronounce "Schwalbe" right. I was thinking about getting the world traveller, but have second thoughts after this. Thanks for a very balanced and in-depth review!

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

Thank you ☺️ yeah there are probably cheaper alternatives…..

This is such a good bike review. I have watched many and it has to be one of the best. The camera work is excellent filming what you are talking about. Your observations and thoughts are very clear and considered. Shame the bike wasn't for you. The Koga World Traveller is a very well regarded bike for cycle touring. Hopefully you have now found another bicycle which you are more happy with.

The " world traveller KOGA " BIKE is my favourite ❗️😎❗️👍❗️😎❗️in the man - Version ! ❗️😎❗️👍❗️😎❗️

great review ! thats a really nice bike, best wishes from wales

@cristianpop3830

Жыл бұрын

Posesor de bicicletă Koga este o bicicletă foarte bună depinde și de ce echipare vrei merită toți banii , foarte mulțumit de koga mea koga e-xite s

That ring lock is genius! It's called "Bäckerschloss" for a reason: You can easily lock your bike if you don't venture far away and nobody can just ride away. You also can buy a chain or a rope that fits into the lock opposite the key lock to lock the bike to a lamp post or something else. One more benefit: You cannot forget the lock - it's always there.

@biking_beyond

7 күн бұрын

Interesting to hear a positive review, however I just can not understand how anyone could possibly like a „lock“ like this 😅 securing a 3000€ bike with a mechanism that allows thiefs to just lift the back of the bike and comfortably carry/ push the bike on the front wheel is not acceptable for me 🙈🫣

I loved your honest review thank you best wishes from Ireland

If your next bike lacks water bottle mounts, Velo Orange makes clamp on water bottle mounts that work well. There are other add on clamps from other manufacturers too.

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

The problem is not to find a nice mount, but rather to find the space on the frame for a mount 😁

@AKay1956

Жыл бұрын

I understand. I added two water bottle cages behind my saddle using a dual water bottle mount made by Minoura. I see a lot of bikes with bottle holders on the handlebars too. I enjoy your videos.

So very relatable! I have a Signature Worldtraveller and also had to opt for the mixed frame because the diamond frame was not available in my size. Still regret it to this day!

@pedroclaro7822

Жыл бұрын

Why do u regret it?

@1jeanke

Жыл бұрын

@@pedroclaro7822 Because the geometry is different from a diamond frame. The head tube is longer so my handlebars are higher than my saddle. For me, this results in saddle pain and sore shoulders. I cannot solve it with fine adjustment, my handlebars are already in the lowest position and my leg length is what it is. After more than half a year of searching I still can't get this figured out. I am going to try 1 more new saddle (nr. 5!). If that doesn't improve the problem, I'm going to strip the bike for parts and have a custom frame built.

@pedroclaro7822

Жыл бұрын

That sucks. I am considering buying one off a fella who’s 20cm taller than the recommended height for the bicycle- maybe that’s why it fit him… He’s selling it for 250 because there’s no market for touring bikes in m country and I think it’s a total steal, except it doesn’t have all stock parts, and the frame is putting me off. Seems comfortable but granny style as the OPoster said xD It’s not the world traveler model, it’s just ‘traveler’, which seems to be advertised as an adventure bike as well. Still from retail 1,700 to 200something… I think I don’t mind the cons if it fits I think you could try a few things though - shortest cranks. Would allow you raise saddle height. Clipless pedals might help too since they end up raising your feet from the center of the pedals by 2cm - an adjustable stem. I’ve seen a few tourers with them, despite the added breaking points. - I’ve also seen a road bike to tourer conversion with one of these (though it was to raise the handlebars, it seems like it would work well for the opposite). Look up FMFXTR bicycle double stem riser. I think it’s marketer towards folder, but no reason why it won’t fit elsewhere

I am a frame builder. I have installed many under down tube water bottle fitting. I do not know if you are headed back to your home in Germany. When you get back, you could someone to drill and install a pair of lower placed riv-nuts under your down-tube, so you could mount a second cage.

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

Wow a frame builder! Thanks for your comment. There were wholes on the down tube facing up and facing down, but the down facing ones I could not use (the wheel would touch the bottle), but on the upper tube I would have needed some… anyways I am selling the bike 😁😬so no drilling for now 😄

@antoniocruz8083

Жыл бұрын

I've attached bottle cages with plastic zip-ties to any part of the frame including the fork. They have not budget 1mm even with 1lt bottles. I cut them off once the tour ends. No need to choose a bike according to bottle holding points.

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

I Attatched some too, the zip ties broke and the tiny movement of the cage made deep scratches in the coating, even though I had placed about 3 layers of protection tape around it 🤪

Yours and Alex's bikes looked like they were durable. Also, easy to understand your misgivings about the extra water bottle and kickstand. As you ride though, it looks like a good fit for your nonetheless. However, we all have our own preferences, and no better way to know for sure, than to experience the ride. Very helpful review.

Nice little channel you have there. I enjoyed watching your videos. The bike you have is overpriced actually. I’m riding a 999,00 EUR Cube Trekking bike that has the exact same derailleur and gearing. You may want to look at the Kona Sutra. It’s one of the best bikes for long distance traveling that money can buy. Safe travels, I can’t wait to see which bike you buy next! Schöne Grüße aus Bonn, RK

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

Hey, ich hab etwa 5 Monate versucht verschiedene Cube Bikes zu bekommen, in meiner Größe zu Corona Zeiten leider absolut utopisch gewesen 😩

@rheinking2754

Жыл бұрын

@@biking_beyond Auch ich war während der Pandemie auf der Suche nach einem neuen Fahrrad und konnte das gewünschte Modell nicht in meiner Größe finden. Aber ich bin froh, dass das passiert ist, denn die 2022er Modelle boten einige interessante Upgrades, über die ich mich gefreut habe, als ich letzten März endlich ein neues Fahrrad gekauft habe. Ich werde nicht versuchen, wie ein Botschafter für die Sache zu klingen, aber ich habe ein Cube Reaction Hybrid SL gekauft, das ich zu einem SUV umgebaut habe. Wie die meisten Leute in deinem Alter wirst du dich wahrscheinlich immer noch weigern, ein E-Bike in Betracht zu ziehen, aber ich kann dir sagen, dass es so viel entspannender ist, wenn man sich keine Sorgen machen muss, wenn es richtig bergauf geht. Ich habe dich abonniert und dir für mehrere Videos den Daumen nach oben gegeben. Viel Glück mit deinem Kanal! Es war interessant zu hören, wie du in einigen der älteren Videos Deutsch sprichst. Ich bin ursprünglich aus Amerika und fand dein Englisch sehr gut. MFG, RK

Thanks for the honest review. Guess I stick with my solid Stevens Gavere gravel bike and bikepacking then. 🙂

Does the frame flex under load? For example, when you are standing on the pedals to pedal up a hill, do the disk brakes rub? Any creaking noises from the bottom bracket? Thanks.

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

Not when you stick to the total weight allowed 😅

Which bike or brand are you considering purchasing? I do own a Santos for 10 years now but in my opinion also heavily overpriced when considering buying one in 2023.

Very honest review! Thx. It was interesting to hear and I recommend to send it to Koga for improvements in the future ;-)

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

Haha they probably don’t give a s*** 😂😁

Great review, thanks! Do you wish you had chosen a Rohloff hub?

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

No! Too expensive for what I need/want :)

Yeah those worn grips are demoralizing to use, extreme tackiness especially in the rain, I don't use them without gloves anymore.

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

Or with an alternative moisture source: sweat 🫣😂

@alexmorgan3435

7 ай бұрын

I don't like Ergon grips because of just this. I bought some look-a-like Ergon grips on Amazon which are ergonomically very similar to Ergon, but these grips do not have a hand grip surface that becomes sticky and horrid to put your hands on, plus they were a lot cheaper. Unfortunately I just looked for them again and they are now unavailable. :@(

Love your channel could you please do a video on how you do your bike computer map routing each day including the hardware and software you use, plus changing the Bike computer. 😊

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

We already sold it 🙈 I wasn’t a fan…maybe Alex could do a review!

@kylekoehn5111

Жыл бұрын

@@biking_beyond What are you replacing it with?

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

Just a smartphone probably!

@kylekoehn5111

Жыл бұрын

@@biking_beyond That's boring, lol.

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

That’s just what’s most practical 😝

Am o bicicletă electrica Koga e-xite s de 4 ani Bosch cx 55000 km foarte mulțumit de ea fără probleme întreținerea revizia servisare profesională te tine pe viață

Open mind, great review.

Somebody sponsered by them gives a glowing review, interesting to hear that the world traveller is not perfect. Personally I have the Kona Sutra SE, my only complaint being that with bar end shifters , it is very difficult to get a suitable mirror. Is the World traveller not alot less comfortable than a steel frame bike?

@biking_beyond

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment, what do you mean by less comfortable?

By the way, how did you remove the lock from your World traveller?, I could do with the mud clearance back for an upcoming trip

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

You could just remove some screws and take it off 😉

Which bike would then be right for you? Did you buy it? Is it then better than Koga? Kim Hansen, Denmark

@biking_beyond

8 ай бұрын

Hi Kim, I recently bought a cube, it serves a slightly different purpose but so far I am really happy with it it! It is the cube kathmandu pro 2023 😊

Wont step across frame help men even, if they have to climb off many times?! What alternative brands had you researched before?

Good review 🙂

Nice review. The paint chipping is unforgiving and should be warranted by Koga. The stand also should not break with such a new bike. (I work at a Koga dealership and i must say that it is not a very common issue). The grips get sticky because of the sweat of your hands. Some people have that some don't. A pear of gloves should prevent that The lock is actually pretty decent. It also has a hole that you can stick a chain lock into. That way you only need 1 key and the bike is double locked. That the saddle cover came loose is unfortunate. That it does not sit good is just a personal thing. There is not a sadle in the world that suits every person. The lack of bodle cages can be easely fixed by make some extra holes on the top tube. Also the front forks have 4 additional holes for 2 boddle cages. Don't forget that it's a relatifly cheap travel bike. You do get the nice frame and it pedals very light and is very stiff. (You cant compare the frame with a Cube or an other cheap brand, its way better)

Nice review, very expensive bike and some things are poor quality. Good to know. Did you already check the 2023/2024 models?

@biking_beyond

2 ай бұрын

Nope, I didn’t! Would be interesting 🤔

@standupray

2 ай бұрын

@@biking_beyond worth a try. Feels very strong but there for also heavy.

Hallo nur ein Tipp. Du fährst mit beladenem fahrrad in den bergen mit einer ritzelkassette 11-34, in den bergen fahre ich mit einem 11-42, kannst du sogar bis zu einem 11-46. Dann fährst du fast überall bergauf. Grüße aus den Niederlanden.

Good to be honest, obviously parts of the bike just aren't built for purpose. Koga should reimburse you, their World Traveller didn't match normal expectations. Powder coating on the frame should be very durable. Take care.

I have a Thorn Nomad, which is steel, the Manufacturer (U.K. St John Street Cycles)of this bike do not recommend frame mounted kick stands, I use a Click Stand, which I order from the USA, there are some good European manufacturers of travel bikes also look at Oxford Bike Works and Stainforth, both U.K.

I got a koga signature in 2008 (26" wheels). The head tube cracked after 16,000 miles and koga replaced the frame in 2018 to a "grand tourer" for free (700c wheels) I still have the original stands (I've replaced the rubber on the back a few times as it can be pulled off by mud) I fitted drop handlebars with gevenalle friction shifters with TRP hylex brakes and leather bar tape. The front fork design is awful with how the rack fits and also the mud guard is awfully designed. The world tourer fork looks much better. (I would have preferred that but wasn't given the option on the life time warranty) The paint seems very tough. Sounds like you've got a bad batch or koga have got worse in 5 years. I've done about 7,000 miles on this frame. I'm sorry your one doesn't seem to be a good standard. If I was in Germany I'd get a tout terrain blue ridge GT .My touring buddy has one (in a small frame). Awesome. You could always get the frame and transfer the koga components over. (It can be upgraded to rohloff hub at a later date) I really love the front kick stand on my koga, but tout terrain have their steering lock. Brooks saddles are fabulous. I (in my opinion) find the ring lock is perfect if you are going into a bakery. No one can carry off a heavily laden tourer, especially if you've got your eye on it through the bakery window. (I worry more about the bags) the lock is very quick to use and ring lock for the back wheel also has a hole the other side of the key that you can insert a plug in wire or chain lock, so you can then lock the frame to an immovable object as well as the front wheel. I find the grand tourer very comfortable. Love your channel.

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

Looked into ToutTerrain bikes as well! But they didn’t fit me, my size and the ones that were available didn’t fit my budget 😂

@damianhill6704

Жыл бұрын

@@biking_beyond I feel sorry for you about frame sizing. It sounds pretty bad to be the "Tyrion Lannister" of the cycle touring world. Good luck finding your perfect bicycle.

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

Haha the Tyrion Lannister is really funny 😂

ABUS locks can be breached as well

26er wheels?

Lack of mounts for water bottles, pumps...whatever plagues all new bikes in my opinion. Surly is the only bike company that puts plenty of mounts on. You can find nylon bottle holders that velcro to your handlebars and gooseneck. Be glad you live where you can safely ride a bike. The USA has very large trucks used as commuter vehicles, violent drivers (people in general too) and riding a bike on or near the road is a dangerous activity. We mostly have to ride mountain bikes in the western USA on the dirt away from the roads.

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

After this trip I see Germany from a different perspective if it comes to bikes! Soooo bike friendly compared to every other country we have been to (except France! France was amazing!) reeeeeeally appreciate the bike paths in Germany! ☺️

Beautiful , just beautiful .......oh the bike is nice too

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I am a bit nervous. I purchased a Koga WorldTraveller, but so far I am not impressed with the response from Koga and their dealers. 7+ days for a response to an email is normal.

@itsnobbie1212

6 ай бұрын

I had to wait more than 2 weeks for a simple question about the new frame sizes; they seem to be understaffed ~

How can I buy this bike? We can't buy this bike in our country. If I send you money, can you buy it for me?

@biking_beyond

Ай бұрын

No sorry, I’m not a retailer;)

At 52 I did a 9,000 mile bicycle tour around the perimeter of the USA. I used a $500 bicycle. I am glad for your video. In my world the Koga is a lot of money for nothing.

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

Nice!

@cristianpop3830

Жыл бұрын

Foarte greșit koga este o bicicletă Foarte bună atenție la detalii echipare ,o bicicletă koga 3 - 4 000 euro și merită toți banii răspuns din România

👏👏👏👏 🚴🇧🇷

Die Griffen werden von Schweiß und Sonnebrandöl gelöst. Nach den Eincremen reinige ich meiner Händen erst.

Yeah cooles review. Ich würde allerdings niemals im Leben zweieinhalb Tausend fürn Fahrrad ausgeben. Ich fahr mit meinem auch quer durch Europa und das hab ich für zweihundert gebraucht gekauft, neu war es etwa fünfhundert. Bin allerdings Bastler und Schrauber und hab natürlich noch ein paar Sachen verändert, vielleicht nochmal dreihundert dazu. Aber 2500 ?!?! WOFÜR? Ja wenn der Rahmen aus Gold wär vielleicht 🤣😂😁

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

Coole Sache!!! Ich war bevor ich das Rad gekauft habe absolut unerfahren und habe es mir nicht selbst zugetraut. Ich verkaufe meines gerade und würde es jetzt so wie du machen ☺️👍🏻

we have the same bike mijn wife and i we like the bike de paint is bad . the waterbothels you put on youre front vork i have make it zo mijn bike have 4 and under bij the pedels shaft i have make a holder vor mijn stove petrol . i hope you have some help whit it i like youre viideo s greetings Fred

@fredegthuijsen4095

Жыл бұрын

now you can have 3 bothels water on youre bike

@fredegthuijsen4095

Жыл бұрын

no have 4 for water and 1 for the petrol

@fredegthuijsen4095

Жыл бұрын

2 on the vork 2 on the frame and the petrol onder the frame

Koga fait-il les cadres ??? c'est douteux.

I suggest you take a serious look at the Surly Disc Trucker. Especially since you seem to think you are small.

@biking_beyond

Жыл бұрын

Im Short 🤭

@rickputnam8816

Жыл бұрын

@@biking_beyond And you're adorable at the same time.

@bengt_axle

Жыл бұрын

Steel Surly Ogre too. See Jenny on Rolling existence channel.

Happy cyclist