[KOF XV] Character Comparison of The King of Fighters XV (2D vs 3D) Side by Side | VCDECIDE

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Side by Side Comparison between the characters of the new KOF XV (3D) and KOF 2002 UM (2D).
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- Technical data -
Full Game Name: The King of Fighters XV
Alternative Name: KOF XV/ KOF 15
Developer(s): SNK
Publisher(s): SNK
Release: 2016 (KOF XIV) 2022 (KOF XV)
Comparative Region: American Version
Genre: Fighting Game
Mode: Single-player or Multiplayer (Vs Local/ Online)
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  • @MegaShingo97
    @MegaShingo972 жыл бұрын

    1:02 I miss that pose for Ryo...

  • @turbotrup96
    @turbotrup962 жыл бұрын

    2:18 I'm surprised she is far more cutesy in the newest games, her old Sprite made her look more like a possessed zombie

  • @ace3093
    @ace30932 жыл бұрын

    I really like the new 3D characters but for me the 2D sprites still look way cooler. It was amazing what the original NeoGeo was able to do with 2D sprite work. Everything is so detailed and animated so smooth.

  • @wesleysoares1687

    @wesleysoares1687

    2 жыл бұрын

    They reached prime in KOF XIII.

  • @arseniy

    @arseniy

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like many 2d sprites better too. One of the problem with 3d models is how the clothing fabric is not very natural.

  • @karahitto

    @karahitto

    2 жыл бұрын

    Prime art direction

  • @comunissa

    @comunissa

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@arseniy It's true. The hair also looks bad. Also the physical change of some characters like Robert. The Robert of 97-98 were perfect, now his character is horrible. And Shermie went from being a sexy girl with the perfect body to an American, in an American dress, with American methacrylate on her buttocks.

  • @chloemoretzfan910

    @chloemoretzfan910

    2 жыл бұрын

    OK boomer

  • @nobyra
    @nobyra2 жыл бұрын

    2D still packs way more impact, clearer key poses/frames, defined movement, more interesting overall. Its not a 2D vs 3D problem, but an artistic problem. 90s SNK artists used put a lot of attention in the key frames and animation.

  • @juststatedtheobvious9633

    @juststatedtheobvious9633

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's also a budget issue. The difference between an expensive 2d fighting game in the 90's and the amount of talent/money needed to compete with top tier 3d models and animations is obscene. Especially since they can't go full anime, which would have saved them a lot of texture problems. Plus, the 90's games had the advantage of representing fashion trends when they were exciting, rather than guessing how to make them seem relevant 20 plus years later. Considering all the handicaps involved, this is surprisingly faithful adaptation. They just need to work on the clothing more. Beyond that, only the steroid abusers and Mai stand out as looking cheap and unrealistic.

  • @indradbachrie

    @indradbachrie

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup budget was also the problem...

  • @ColonDee.

    @ColonDee.

    Жыл бұрын

    The difference stands out even more in other animations than the idle stance, mainly the ones that are supposed to cause an impact.

  • @junkyyard2273

    @junkyyard2273

    Жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU for LEAVING OUT THE PROBLEM OF BUDGET and TIME. Because apparently some of you think we can just go back to the XIII era, despite the fact that SNK went bankrupt two times and is just currently having at least a proper rise

  • @peace4myheart
    @peace4myheart2 жыл бұрын

    There is just something so beautiful about pixelated 2D artwork. With that said, I think SNK did a pretty good job transitioning the characters from 2D to 3D.

  • @caincorn

    @caincorn

    2 жыл бұрын

    The pixelated look better because the style blend seamlessly with the characters’ exaggerated postures and movements, which in turn giving them more personality and individual uniqueness. It doesn’t translate well into 3D so they changed a lot of them to fit its style but normalization isn’t what you would want in a fighting game where character design and traits represent a huge chunk of its appeal. At least that’s what I think. I can never get use to the 3D style.

  • @davidespindola5793

    @davidespindola5793

    2 жыл бұрын

    No with Ryo and Kyo in 3D. 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎

  • @zeroXshinobi
    @zeroXshinobi2 жыл бұрын

    To me it seems like most characters (like Ryo, Kula and Robert) had better stances/idle animations during their 2D era. I do like the way Maxima looks though.

  • @ThreeEyedPea
    @ThreeEyedPea2 жыл бұрын

    I do love and still prefer the 2D sprites but I do think most of these characters transitioned very well to 3D. It's also more than a little understandable why they'd move away from 2D given how KOF XIII's sprites nearly bankrupted SNK a second time.

  • @krishrama

    @krishrama

    2 жыл бұрын

    hells yes!! KOF 13 it sure was beautiful to witnesss SNK prime. but the cost was heavy and sad fate tho. a true rival to SFIII aesthetic wise... maybe someday SNK will consider that style of graphic again. they definitely doing good nowdays. :D

  • @bilelsmith6333

    @bilelsmith6333

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @WTFHAX93

    @WTFHAX93

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is just pure dream scenario, but fighting game series like KOF or SF could potentially benefit from an artstyle similar to what ArcSys games like recent Guilty Gear titles or Dragon Ball FighterZ have right now. They use 3D models, but they are heavily stylized and actively deformed accordingly to emulate the 2D aesthetics very faithfully (especially in DBFZ's case).

  • @rafacharkman

    @rafacharkman

    2 жыл бұрын

    if they had just kept the poses of the characters, it would have been much better accepted, since few characters were better than the original. 0:54 and 1:00 were the worst I think

  • @turbotrup96

    @turbotrup96

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why are sprites that expensive to make?

  • @TobiAnimados
    @TobiAnimados2 жыл бұрын

    1:37 seems the weight of the bazoombas is really affecting Mai's posture lately. 😁 I love so much more 2D animation over 3D, so for me 2D all the way. I think they did some characters too bulky and muscular so their heads look small in comparison, Terry, Ralph, Ryo, Clark, look so much better in 2D, they look more agile and with better proportions in 2D.

  • @rafacharkman

    @rafacharkman

    2 жыл бұрын

    some characters were very good, but most of them were weird in the pose.(00:01, 00:12, 00:38,00:41, 00:54...)

  • @EstebanBrenesV

    @EstebanBrenesV

    2 жыл бұрын

    it depends and on the bulky part let me remind you XIII whre ralf and clark were a mess of muscle, its not the 2D or 3D it depends on the edition of the game XIV looks bad now that XV is out but you could say the same thing about some design in other iterations, it depends

  • @chiarosuburekeni9325

    @chiarosuburekeni9325

    2 жыл бұрын

    What they did with Mai is stupid and juvenile. You can still see her in all her sexiness in the original stance, without making things look stupid and impractical

  • @StanNotSoSaint

    @StanNotSoSaint

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair Mai got this stance in XIII which was still 2D

  • @Mark-tq7bf

    @Mark-tq7bf

    2 жыл бұрын

    You know that Mai changed poses during 2D right? Also 2D era had more muscular guys. Look KOF XII/XIII is just fucking horrible

  • @CappuccinO80
    @CappuccinO802 жыл бұрын

    I hadn't noticed that when Mary puts her hair behind her ear it actually stays there 😮great detail! In general I really like the 3D models, except for Ralf and Clark's hated that they made them so buff. Ryo as well.

  • @SleepyRickyC92

    @SleepyRickyC92

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah the animation details for KOF 15 is really well done, at least from what I've seen. Character's head tracks you, and your head tracks the opponents, so if you are practicing your jumps and hops against a dummy in training you'll seem them nod their head up and down. It's pretty funny and neat. Also Mai's animations are really well done too. Any time she jumps she puts her fan in her mouth, and when she lands you can almost always see her take the fan out of her mouth except when animations get cancelled by buttons. Also if you use any fan attack in air she'll always take out the fan and put it back in her mouth. There's probably more neat little stuff they put in, but those are the main ones I noticed

  • @Reachland02

    @Reachland02

    2 жыл бұрын

    They tried to be like street fighter characters lol and I dont even like ugly sf characters

  • @nix294

    @nix294

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Reachland02 SF6 graphics going to be lit if it looked like the teaser

  • @ShinOrochi

    @ShinOrochi

    2 жыл бұрын

    Blame XII/XIII for turned Ralf, Clark, Terry and Ryo to be so ridiculously buff in XV lol.

  • @CappuccinO80

    @CappuccinO80

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShinOrochi I do blame XII and XIII 😆... at least there's mods now, so there's hope for a debuff version of them.

  • @netorodrigues4829
    @netorodrigues48292 жыл бұрын

    2:06 Ramon following the rhythm

  • @otsu3011
    @otsu30112 жыл бұрын

    They look great in 3D, but smoother in sprites / pixel art

  • @jorbu1423
    @jorbu14232 жыл бұрын

    Most of the characters look great on 3d well done SNK

  • @AndréFontes
    @AndréFontes2 жыл бұрын

    Lindo em 3D... mas sei lá. KOF sempre será melhor em pixel art!

  • @THOUGHTBRUSH336

    @THOUGHTBRUSH336

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tbm prefiro em 2d, mas os 3d parecem que tem mais personalidade

  • @AndréFontes

    @AndréFontes

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@THOUGHTBRUSH336 sou eu resistindo a ideia de que em 3D está sensacional...rs Poderia então ter a opção no game de escolher ativar o modo em pixel art. Lembro que quando eu jogava o Marvel vs Capcom 2 no Dreamcast, era uma experiência fantástica ver os gráficos dos cenários em 3D mas os personagens em pixel art (2D).

  • @THOUGHTBRUSH336

    @THOUGHTBRUSH336

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AndréFontes sim, joguei demais marvel vs capcom 2 no play2 jogo fantástico.

  • @Tsu23x

    @Tsu23x

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AndréFontes Já jogou o KOF ‘94 Re-bout? Tem cenários em 3D tb! Eu achei que o Marvel vs Capcom do Dreamcast ficou muito melhor, mas esse Re-bout é bonito tb.

  • @pietronunes1503

    @pietronunes1503

    2 жыл бұрын

    Com ou sem?

  • @Pfizer980
    @Pfizer9802 жыл бұрын

    The 3D animation in this kof xv is clearly a lot more improved, but it still can't hide the stiffness especially in the facial expression during conversation. But it also happen with street fighter. I guess we still have room to improve in the future, I like Tekken's 3d though

  • @WTFHAX93

    @WTFHAX93

    2 жыл бұрын

    As a Tekken fan myself, I think Tekken's 3D has seen a considerable regression in their artstyle. In my opinion they peaked in Tekken 4. The attention to detail in some of the facial animations or body proportions have not translated well to later games, especially Tekken 7. In T4, characters were much leaner, which is specifically seen with Kazuya, Paul or Marduk. Their body build in that game is much more realistic, despite much smaller polygon count. Hell, Marduk already had his legs shortened and his upper body made bigger in T5. Tekken 7 has very stiff facial expressions, and the models overall have been homogenized quite heavily. Most of the girls have a very similar build, while most of the guys became blocky and super muscular (with the exception of Bob). Leaner guys like Marshall Law, Hwoarang, Lee, Eddy, or even Jin to some degree, were considerably buffed up compared to their previous appearances (compare T4's Marshall to T7's Marshall, the difference is astonishing).

  • @caincorn

    @caincorn

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea 15 is a great improvement from 14. On a side note they had the audacity to zoom in on some supers emphasizing their wooden expressions lol.

  • @realamericannegro977

    @realamericannegro977

    Жыл бұрын

    I give them another game to hit their stride. Maybe 2 or 3 more games to become powerhouses in graphics.

  • @NiGHTS1980
    @NiGHTS19802 жыл бұрын

    3D is clean and looks great. But the 2D sprites have an indefinable charm and beauty that never goes out of style.

  • @y_s4021
    @y_s40212 жыл бұрын

    3D has more information, but some of these sprites have way better animation. Feel bouncier, more human and more energetic. The 3D is kinda floaty.

  • @Gramasz

    @Gramasz

    2 жыл бұрын

    thats why arcsystemworks cut frames and didn't like the auto calc of 3D

  • @Rafesco

    @Rafesco

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ralph and Clark look more belivable in 2D

  • @ShinOrochi

    @ShinOrochi

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Rafesco So do you think their XII/XIII sprites (Which had the same size if not larger than their 3D counterpart) also look believable as well? Lol Although I do agreed the classic sprites look much better for those two.

  • @Rafesco

    @Rafesco

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ShinOrochi I forget about them, no they're hideous, don't know why SNK opted to use that design.

  • @MattG532
    @MattG5322 жыл бұрын

    I love this comparisons, you should make one with the rest of XV's cast using other games iterations like KOF XI for Elizabeth and Ash and KOF 2002 for Krohnen/K9999

  • @ni8anttana

    @ni8anttana

    Жыл бұрын

    also KOF 2003 for Chizuru!

  • @marcosadrian65
    @marcosadrian652 жыл бұрын

    It's a fact good pixel art looks always a lot better that any 3d model.

  • @SleepyRickyC92

    @SleepyRickyC92

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good pixels definitely shows the amount of work that went into them, and the effort and care is highly appreciated.

  • @_-Lx-_

    @_-Lx-_

    2 жыл бұрын

    Untrue, 2D and 3D are equals, it all depends on how well they're done. There's some absolutely gorgeous 2D art but there's also fantastic 3D art, look at Arcsys's games since Xrd. One is not better than the other, they both have amazing potential.

  • @junkyyard2273

    @junkyyard2273

    Жыл бұрын

    Also costs a lot more which is why SNK went bankrupt again 😅

  • @arturogabriel6863
    @arturogabriel68632 жыл бұрын

    KOF XV looks beautiful, I don't get how some people don't see that. I think I enjoy looking at it more than Street Fighter V

  • @chloemoretzfan910

    @chloemoretzfan910

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ssshhh, you will enrage boomers if you talk like you prefer the newer 3D graphics than the older 2D ones 😂

  • @SleepyRickyC92

    @SleepyRickyC92

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I'm also on the same camp that thinks KOF 15 models and graphics look really good (except for the fire and ice effects, those can still be improved). It's a better looking game than KOF14; character expressions and faces look much better. Also I can look at the character's model in game, and look at the portrait by the health bar, and see that they look almost if not the same. The same thing can not be said for sprite based games with official artworks or even ArcSys's GG Xrd and Strive. I like GG a lot, but both Xrd and Strive use a less detailed head model when you are just fighting and only uses a highly detailed hrad model during special cut-ins or win screens. Overall I'm just really satisfied with the graphics. It's obviously not going to look like MK11's graphics, cause Neatherrealm is going for that realism look which I don't think would fit KOF. If SNK is to have their 3D models have the most similar animations to their 2D counterparts, I think going for this kind of artstyle is the best way to do it.

  • @arturogabriel6863

    @arturogabriel6863

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chloemoretzfan910 Yeah lol, I love classic KOF and 2D sprites, but I can't understand how someone can say "2D SPRITES ARE BETTER" there is a CLEAR upgrade with XV in every way...

  • @edwardsolaire5672

    @edwardsolaire5672

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's not that. It's only that KOF '98 is the best of the series, a masterpiece. After that, KOF was dead, they tried to improve but failed. SNK needs to create another IP, or a new Fatal Fury maybe. We are seeing the same characters like Kyo, Iori or even Terry, but there's no improvement, they are the same, with the same interactions. The worst part for me, is that they remove your teammates in the background. That little detail made KOF very special from others fighting games. :'(

  • @arturogabriel6863

    @arturogabriel6863

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@edwardsolaire5672 I strongly strooongly disagree Kof 2002 UM is a masterpiece, Kof XI is amazing and unique, Kof XIII has the best sprite work and is an amazing fighting game, Kof XIV while a bit ugly, it was very successful, and XV wow, I haven't had as much fun in a fighting game for a while as I'm having now, so much personality, combo freedom, polished combat and visuals, I think you are in a nostalgia cell, but hey everyone has their preferences. Still saying that KOF is dead just doesn't make sense

  • @-RAZALAS-
    @-RAZALAS-2 жыл бұрын

    Due to the music, looks like some of them are dancing. 1:05 King and Yashiro, for instance.

  • @maikayee246
    @maikayee2462 жыл бұрын

    Looking at whip’s 2D animation is mesmerizing.

  • @Luigivaldo

    @Luigivaldo

    2 жыл бұрын

    I really love how she swings her hand on this animation, so smooth!

  • @carlosaugusto9821

    @carlosaugusto9821

    2 жыл бұрын

    2d gods at work

  • @adam17
    @adam172 жыл бұрын

    Kind of wish Kula still had more of the ice aesthetic like she use to. Glistening white hair, pale skin, and ice just naturally falling around her. Like her presence is freezing the moisture in the air. The new design isn't bad, but the older one certainly made her more unique.

  • @Mark-tq7bf

    @Mark-tq7bf

    2 жыл бұрын

    Kula always had light blue hair. Not white. What drug are you taking?

  • @adam17

    @adam17

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mark-tq7bf All of them

  • @Nu_Merick
    @Nu_Merick2 жыл бұрын

    SNK really outdid themselves in 15. I'm glad that could adapt to 3d as well as they did despite 14 and I loved 14 and 13..

  • @stoneroccultdoom666
    @stoneroccultdoom6662 жыл бұрын

    2D Sprites brings me back to the old golden days in the arcade saloon of my town...:(

  • @davidolivier1983
    @davidolivier19832 жыл бұрын

    Both look really good. SNK did a great job in KOF XV with their 3d models.

  • @Urmrgay955
    @Urmrgay9552 жыл бұрын

    Surprisingly, some of the new 3d designs have way more personality than the older ones. They have more varied proportions and outfits, well done SNK.

  • @SleepyRickyC92

    @SleepyRickyC92

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think 2D allows the artist to have more freedom with posture but sacrifices realism in a way (eg. Look at how tiny Terry's waist is at 0:36). With 3D I assume the character model has some physics or bone rigging which keeps the anatomy in check unless we are talking about Arcsys games, cause those are kind of different: DBFZ and GG Xrd/Strive tends to manipulates their 3D models to have crazy proportions in order to make them look good at certain camera angles. It looks awesome in the intended angles, but looks super weird behind the scenes from unintended camera angles.

  • @edwardsolaire5672

    @edwardsolaire5672

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope. 2D is the true essence of King of Fighters.

  • @Urmrgay955

    @Urmrgay955

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@edwardsolaire5672 and? I still like the 3d more.

  • @edwardsolaire5672

    @edwardsolaire5672

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Urmrgay955 and? I still like the 2d more.

  • @Urmrgay955

    @Urmrgay955

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@edwardsolaire5672 good for you fam.

  • @salttrader4113
    @salttrader41132 жыл бұрын

    Would love to see 2d HD (kof xiii) vs kof xv 3d

  • @alexnasmen

    @alexnasmen

    2 жыл бұрын

    It would make more sense, considering KOF XV is based on KOF XIV, which seems to be based on the poses of KOF XIII.

  • @sebastiandiaz5416
    @sebastiandiaz54162 жыл бұрын

    I really liked the old design of king Her more androgynous- masculine appearance really fits her character. I mean, there's a reason developers decided to name her king and not queen.

  • @LaCasaDelCordero

    @LaCasaDelCordero

    2 жыл бұрын

    She was desinged like that to appear to be a male fighter, but later on the game you could discover the truth. Nowadays it has no more sense, because everyone knows who she is.

  • @sebastiandiaz5416

    @sebastiandiaz5416

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LaCasaDelCordero Even so, I think that a more masculine appearance would suit her character concept better and in terms of design it would be much more interesting to have more variety of bodies and physical builds among female characters

  • @adam17

    @adam17

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@sebastiandiaz5416 Agreed. I'd rather they lean toward more personalized and distinctive designs. The less generalized characters are, the more life and variety they can bring to the table.

  • @meganinten0078

    @meganinten0078

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LaCasaDelCordero I agree with you I prefer King's modern design too

  • @sebastiandiaz5416

    @sebastiandiaz5416

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@LaCasaDelCordero sorry for coming back again so late but i'm a hardhead.lmao I also think the reason her design changed was due to mere fanservice, giving her a model body with a small waist, wide hips and prominent breasts. I don't think they changed her (only) for not fulfilling her original purpose, because following that logic then they should also have removed the option to tear her clothes. It is sad to see how characters are oversexualized for no apparent reason, losing much of their variety and original appeal, it is somewhat boring

  • @valletas
    @valletas2 жыл бұрын

    I like how kula looks bored on the spritework but her 3d model looks happy and energetic

  • @ShinOrochi

    @ShinOrochi

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was mostly because her sprite was taken from NESTS era where she barely had any emotions. SNK never change her face and they kept her NESTS sprite on the mainline games until XIII.

  • @matthewirizarry8467
    @matthewirizarry84672 жыл бұрын

    They really hit it out of the park with 15. 14 was so dead looking.

  • @guilhermeneves9185
    @guilhermeneves91852 жыл бұрын

    1:02 i still prefer this idle animation over the new one. but mostly are awesome or even better 2:34 the sandals ....

  • @samusbdog8025

    @samusbdog8025

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol for real

  • @carlosaugusto9821

    @carlosaugusto9821

    2 жыл бұрын

    The 13-15 pose is a reference to his classic pose from AoF and KoF 94-95.

  • @guilhermeneves9185

    @guilhermeneves9185

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@carlosaugusto9821 you're right i totally forgot about that '-' but i still prefer the kof idle animation though lol

  • @adam17

    @adam17

    2 жыл бұрын

    Idk which way you're taking the sandals lol But sandals on a boxer makes no sense. A fighting style totally dependent of footing, pivots, speed etc. I would say it hurts my head but for some reason it breaks my heart even more ha

  • @uf_calibur75
    @uf_calibur752 жыл бұрын

    As much as I like 2D sprites, going 3D what's the best way to go, 15 looks beautiful this doesn't do it justice this video.

  • @edwardsolaire5672

    @edwardsolaire5672

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well, no 3D model can look good compared to a precious pixel art.

  • @uf_calibur75

    @uf_calibur75

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@edwardsolaire5672 that's highly debatable

  • @insertbadassname604
    @insertbadassname6042 жыл бұрын

    Man the 3d transition was not kind to the big bodied characters. They animate like they’re in Mascot Suits.

  • @Bluzlbee
    @Bluzlbee2 жыл бұрын

    everyone except Ryo, got a good 3D job

  • @JmTKokish
    @JmTKokish2 жыл бұрын

    Yes the 60 fps. But I'm still amazed how snk made those tiny pixels looks more animated than any sprites at their time.

  • @BeheadedPrisoner
    @BeheadedPrisoner2 жыл бұрын

    2:18 ok, something's missing.

  • @dezinfectant
    @dezinfectant2 жыл бұрын

    I almost forget how cool the 2d animation was

  • @blackflame90
    @blackflame902 жыл бұрын

    What about krohnen and k99999

  • @oscarviniciuslima
    @oscarviniciuslima2 жыл бұрын

    Os gráficos 3D são legais, ok, mas The King of Fighters em 2D é espetacular!

  • @lgoisgois7335

    @lgoisgois7335

    Жыл бұрын

    o 2d parece que os personagens são vivos...voce sente a personalidade do personagem... no 3d ficou meio artificial, ficou tipo robô, mas confesso que fiquei feliz com a evolução...os caras estão melhorando a cada kof.

  • @YagamiEditss

    @YagamiEditss

    Жыл бұрын

    Eu particularmente gosto mais da do 13 doq do 14

  • @SleepyRickyC92
    @SleepyRickyC922 жыл бұрын

    2D is classic and awesome, but 3D has its benefits. You can do dynamic lighting with 3D models which you can't with 2D (you can simulate shadows with pixels, but can't really do dynamic shadows, not in the way a 3D model does it at least from what I know). I think the transition to 3D is just a natural shift for the industry. Arguably cheaper to produce too. Now that KOF15 is out I think SNK did a great job with the models. edit: there is a weird thing going on for 3D though. I didn't notice it much in game but I should point it out here. A little hard to explain so I'll try to explain it using a brawler like streets of rage 4 for example. In a brawler you can walk up and down the tiles, so you can move more into the background or come towards the foreground, which gives the game's field a depth. KOF is a 2D fighting game, so everyone technically is standing on the same tile/ same depth. However if you compare Heidern's models at 0:30 to Terry's models at 0:36, you can see how Heidern's posture allows him to stand at the same depth for 2D and 3D, but because Terry's posture has him facing the opponent more, his 3D model steps a little into the background. As a result Terry's forward foot for his 3D model is in a different spot (much higher/into the background) than the 2D sprite's forward foot. Terry's 2D sprite has a similar posture to the 3D, but he is much more flat and not really stepping into the background. This is likely due to anatomical reasons. SNK probably can't keep the feet in the same spot without warping Terry's anatomy. Just an interesting observation The above observation is much less noticeable for character's whose posture has their feet pointed towards the camera, or if their feet are really close together.

  • @greensun1334
    @greensun1334 Жыл бұрын

    2D sprites look always better, at least in fighting games. They're much more charismatic but also more expensive, given the fact that the creation of the KoF13 sprites almost bankrupted SNK/Playmore a second time, I can understand their choice of moving to 3D figures.

  • @samusbdog8025
    @samusbdog80252 жыл бұрын

    2:37 she will never change

  • @neotemplario1530
    @neotemplario15302 жыл бұрын

    O 3D é impressionante, incrível, mas o 2D também tem o seu charme.

  • @lgoisgois7335

    @lgoisgois7335

    Жыл бұрын

    o 2d é bonito até hoje...os persoangens tem muita vida e personalidade... o 3d ta melhorando...cada kof melhora mais...mas os personagens ainda estão meio robotizados...daí acho que vai envelhecer rápido.daqui a 10 anos vai ficar feio e o kof 2d ainda será bonito...

  • @jaymzx2587
    @jaymzx25872 жыл бұрын

    Mai’s seems like a natural evolution.

  • @hardkoregamer1981
    @hardkoregamer1981 Жыл бұрын

    I prefer the art direction of kof 12 and 13 it felt like more of a natural progression into 3D while keeping the charm of the 2D ones.

  • @somemadcaaant
    @somemadcaaant2 жыл бұрын

    Them pixel animations are still so pretty

  • @israelgonzalezabrego3551
    @israelgonzalezabrego35512 жыл бұрын

    Miss SNK 2D pixel art SO MUCH

  • @lumlee2414
    @lumlee24142 жыл бұрын

    Ryo's stance totally changed

  • @moseslalmuanpuia8988
    @moseslalmuanpuia89882 жыл бұрын

    I admire and like new unreal engine technologies. But I miss the old school 2d sprite fighting games. I wish they could alternate between them,

  • @davidhill8565

    @davidhill8565

    Жыл бұрын

    A similar thing has happened in JRPG circles, specifically Dragon Quest XI. In Dragon Quest XI, there’s 3D mode and 2D mode. That presentation concept could come to fighting games as well, such as King of Fighters, which is toggling between today’s Unreal Engine 3D graphics and Neo Geo style 2D graphics.

  • @anmoldembla4743
    @anmoldembla47432 жыл бұрын

    Don't know about others but I love the 3D models. maybe because I am not a 90s person and don't have that nostaligia thing with 2D pixels

  • @tomytymo6724
    @tomytymo67242 жыл бұрын

    Where is Krohnen?

  • @ChaosAngelZero
    @ChaosAngelZero2 жыл бұрын

    It'd be awesome to have one of these comparison videos between KOFXIII and KOFXV.

  • @carlosaugusto9821
    @carlosaugusto98212 жыл бұрын

    Suggestion: special effects comparison - one power move of KoF 15 (lets say Terry's Power Wave) vs Power Wave in KoF 02um. Maybe in two full screens instead of typical side to side comparison. Sugestão: comparação de efeitos especiais - um poder KoF 15 (ex: Power Wave) vs Power Wave no KoF 02um. Talvez funcione em duas telas cheias em vez da típica comparação lado a lado.

  • @omerunl

    @omerunl

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think 2d ones look much better, especialy Joe's look awful almost looks like it belongs to some other game.

  • @MaskedGuyCh
    @MaskedGuyCh2 жыл бұрын

    00:54 Wow, this guy had so much personality in 2D, and the animation for his stance is beautiful. Look at his jacket, necklace, hair, and hands all moving so smoothly. His 3D stance seems to have lost all that personality...

  • @polar6066

    @polar6066

    2 жыл бұрын

    i disagree LOL

  • @lucastonoli3256

    @lucastonoli3256

    2 жыл бұрын

    That animation is a nightmare for the flow of other animations and that, with the more fluid 3D animations, would look fucking awful after every move. Tekken handles this best on characters like Eddy, but Tekken is very particular when it comes to animations and how those wind up before coming out, it wouldn't work on KoF or other more traditional fighting games.

  • @MaskedGuyCh

    @MaskedGuyCh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lucastonoli3256 Not a good excuse. Take Rashid and Ken in SFV for example, they both have those energetic idle stances, and all their moves flow nicely.

  • @lucastonoli3256

    @lucastonoli3256

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MaskedGuyCh Rashid is close to old Robert sprite and it does look fucking awful when transitioning to moves, SFV is filled with odd sudden animations and ugly stances, there are videos dedicated to this issue if you look around that explain very well what was done wrong.

  • @MaskedGuyCh

    @MaskedGuyCh

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lucastonoli3256 I'm sure those videos exist for KOF15 too, which also has a ton of sudden animations, just as with any fighting game with special cancels. I don't play SFV or care about it, but I can admit when it does something good, and the animations for Rashid are definitely good, they are smooth and flow nicely. KOF15 also has many good things going for it, but it clearly has room for improvement.

  • @MegaRayland
    @MegaRayland2 жыл бұрын

    I get some of these characters weren’t in it but it would have been better to compare using the sprites from KoF XIII. That was the pinnacle of 2D work in the series.

  • @chloemoretzfan910
    @chloemoretzfan9102 жыл бұрын

    Glad they changed the old Athena's weird idle dance stance. It looks like she's dancing in an unbalanced body and about to fall. Her newer stance is much greater with great dance moves which look smooth...

  • @SpacedCobraIII

    @SpacedCobraIII

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be fair, the one on display in this video is maybe her worst. All the of the ones before 2002 are better and don't have that wacky movement.

  • @ruilopes1505
    @ruilopes15052 жыл бұрын

    THANK YOU, REALLY! This said like everyone here i prefer the 2D but its because of Nostalgia, i mean i grew up with Pixel Art, its my childhood and adolencense, it my inner child and all our inner childs. Still for the newbies, its the Future and i am glad SNK still has a future and can tap into the new kids inner child!

  • @xenarorf13
    @xenarorf132 жыл бұрын

    Me sigue agradando más el diseño 2D

  • @warriorsofpotentia77
    @warriorsofpotentia772 жыл бұрын

    The 2D Sprites are still hella impressive against the 3D ones. The 3D adds a few icing on the cake elements such as luminous gear and what not but the 2D sprites are hawt!

  • @SimonM7TV
    @SimonM7TV2 жыл бұрын

    There is of course an inherent difference in vibe between sprite work and 3D but visually I think they look fine. (Miss Benimaru's midriff though 👀) Mostly I just think it's unfortunate that they made some of the poses less iconic. Ryo's wide arms, Andy's leaning forward with the arm furthest to the camera out in front of the "back" arm, things like that. It does make them look less like themselves in terms of silhouettes, and I can't really see any reason to change them like that. 🤷‍♂

  • @devilbringer1102

    @devilbringer1102

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ryo is now using his classic art of fighting pose

  • @SimonM7TV

    @SimonM7TV

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@devilbringer1102 Ah, my lack of familiarity with pre dreamcast KOF99 is showing 😊 Is that a more beloved silhouette for him? I firmly associate him with the wide arm stance.

  • @paulosantiago7457
    @paulosantiago74572 жыл бұрын

    A impressão que eu tenho, desde KoF XIV, é que a SNK poderia se dar mais liberdade com a movimentação dos modelos, isso tanto nas posturas quanto nos golpes e movimento em geral. O jogo já está bom, mas tem potencial pra muito mais!

  • @christian03y
    @christian03y2 жыл бұрын

    I think it's better to compare them to their XII/XIII counterparts, isn't it? Because some of these characters stance has changed since then, like Mai, Yuri, Benimaru

  • @mechanicalpants

    @mechanicalpants

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah that would make a really interesting video

  • @brjuggernaut8022
    @brjuggernaut80222 жыл бұрын

    me desculpe o 3D, mas KoF em 2D é lindo demais. Garou, FF2, KoF99, KF98 e muitos outros, são jogos lindíssimos

  • @SIMPLEPERFECT1998PH
    @SIMPLEPERFECT1998PH2 жыл бұрын

    THE YEARS HAVE PASSED AND THE TECHNOLOGY HAVE CHANGED BUT THE 2D IS STILL BETTER, CLASSIC REIGNS SUPREME

  • @toceeno874

    @toceeno874

    2 жыл бұрын

    both good

  • @datbitchkeepingitreal6712

    @datbitchkeepingitreal6712

    2 жыл бұрын

    Both are good take off the nostalgia glasses the SNK team finally master the 3D models took them quite awhile since PS2 days KOF15 looks beautiful especially mai & angel

  • @braldoca

    @braldoca

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@datbitchkeepingitreal6712 the 3d looks good but the 2d pixel art is way better

  • @carlosaugusto9821

    @carlosaugusto9821

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@braldoca After all they were 2d gods. But currently they are still inexperienced with modern 3d. Anyways they just need time. Like, FF1 wasnt a technical masterpiece in 91 either... It needed time too. SNK cant overcome their limitations from night to day. They truly didnt care much about investing in 3d graphics, and are just suffering the consequences - now they are behind all other fg companies.

  • @nightwolf9375
    @nightwolf9375 Жыл бұрын

    Great 2d sprites will always remain timeless.

  • @vinebatistak
    @vinebatistak2 жыл бұрын

    Robert hair was cool,

  • @_-Lx-_
    @_-Lx-_2 жыл бұрын

    Definitely a huge step up from 14, 13 is still absolutely gorgeous but 15 is pretty good too in a different but similar way.

  • @tailedgates9
    @tailedgates92 жыл бұрын

    2D will always has a better chance of standing the test of time compared to 3D but SNK I'd such a good transitioning some of the characters.

  • @undertaker9991
    @undertaker99912 жыл бұрын

    They came a long way.

  • @Majin-Ura-kyopb-gameplays
    @Majin-Ura-kyopb-gameplays2 жыл бұрын

    *É EU ANALISANDO AQUI, NEM UM KOF SERÁ MELHOR QUE OS 97,98 e 2002 NÉ 😂 2D SÃO MAIS PERFEITOS*

  • @IkaroYan

    @IkaroYan

    2 жыл бұрын

    13 muito melhor que esses

  • @kue5053

    @kue5053

    2 жыл бұрын

    Viúva de gráfico

  • @gamblerfls
    @gamblerfls2 жыл бұрын

    SNK did a really good job transitioning these characters to 3D, they have total respect for their own previous 2D works. In KOF XIV it was weird at start, but in KOF XV it's everything just looking good from the get-go.

  • @ryukenchi

    @ryukenchi

    2 жыл бұрын

    no

  • @gv82089

    @gv82089

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ryukenchi yes

  • @antemode
    @antemode2 жыл бұрын

    Funny how a few pixels have more soul than a gazillion polygons

  • @DanSpardaYagami
    @DanSpardaYagami2 жыл бұрын

    Excuse me, but what do you do to extract the 3D models from the game?

  • @felixpao84

    @felixpao84

    2 жыл бұрын

    In PC Version

  • @SkyboundLight
    @SkyboundLight2 жыл бұрын

    love how king is just kinda vibing in 3d

  • @Genojo
    @Genojo2 жыл бұрын

    I think they should consider cell shade for future instances so that way they can improve how the characters look in 3d, like guilty gear has done.

  • @bassram3337

    @bassram3337

    Жыл бұрын

    They said they will never go the Cel shading way since the KoF series was never an anime like game but it tends more to have a realistic approach

  • @nightwolf9375

    @nightwolf9375

    Жыл бұрын

    @@bassram3337 honestly I would like to see how they would do if they ever went the BlazBlue route, basically having really detailed 3d backgrounds with modernized 2.5d pixel sprites. Blazblue Central Fiction is one of the most beautiful fighting games that I’ve recently played, and it mends both styles pretty well; even when compared to GG imo.

  • @KikyouLove
    @KikyouLove2 жыл бұрын

    Ok you did kof xv dirty with this vid

  • @lulych3328
    @lulych33282 жыл бұрын

    Shermie is top-tier

  • @KevTheGalaxybender
    @KevTheGalaxybender2 жыл бұрын

    Their 2D sprites, even the old ones look so much better. Kof 25 just looks like a shined up version of 14. Bring back 13 sprites. With that being said, would love to see Shermie and Chris in 13's art style

  • @vantiljunior2748
    @vantiljunior27482 жыл бұрын

    SNK aways gave a lot of attention to details in his pixel art work. Just look they clothes!

  • @flow104
    @flow1042 жыл бұрын

    Say whatever you want, doesnt matter what enhanced 3D animation, but nothing can beat kim kap hwan 2D pants animation

  • @buntm3829
    @buntm38292 жыл бұрын

    Loved how they still put their original formation on the latest game

  • @KubanKevin
    @KubanKevin2 жыл бұрын

    So far, only SNK did the 3D right. XV moves and flows almost as perfectly as sprites do. I can't put my finger on it, but something about SF IV and V's movement feels off. This game did it almost completely perfectly.

  • @stone301

    @stone301

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only thing missing in kof15 is the energy and exaggerated movements. 1:08 look at king’s feet in the 2D one. It’s not just the dynamism of movement but the energetic tempo

  • @sayki3002
    @sayki30022 жыл бұрын

    Shermie and Leona ....Perfection🔥

  • @mevsimpossible2
    @mevsimpossible22 жыл бұрын

    I like 2D art and the old Robert and Athena more

  • @russellbuzarang6390
    @russellbuzarang63902 жыл бұрын

    They should've kept some muscles in Blue Mary's arms

  • @salttrader4113
    @salttrader41132 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing this!

  • @mohdumar4176
    @mohdumar41762 жыл бұрын

    I never forget such amay days 2d is forever

  • @carlosaugusto9821
    @carlosaugusto98212 жыл бұрын

    Suggestions: KoF 15 portraits vs the same chars in KoF 13 portraits. Or Evolution of KoF portrait art: KoF 99-15. Sugestões: retratos de KoF 15 vs os mesmos chars em retratos de KoF 13. Ou Evolução da arte de retrato de KoF: KoF 99-15.

  • @AggressivelyMediocre
    @AggressivelyMediocre2 жыл бұрын

    Animation of the sprites is so much crisper.

  • @romiarkan450
    @romiarkan4502 жыл бұрын

    SNK have always given us the classic Leona outfit as bonus since going 3D but never the classic Ralf and Clark ones.

  • @cuchulainnsarafan2479
    @cuchulainnsarafan24792 жыл бұрын

    Me alegra ver que en kof XV snk hiciera una buena representacion de sus personajes en 3d, ya se que todos amamos los sprites en 2d pero es necesario modernizarse en el apartado visual en especial para Snk que estuvo fuera del mercado mucho tiempo

  • @pilotosecreto
    @pilotosecreto2 жыл бұрын

    Como todo PC Gamer, o RGB LED do Maxima deu um Upgrade Monstro, agora ele roda Cyberpunk 2077 sem reclamar de dor...rs Brincadeiras a parte, tem posição que consegui ver estranheza agora lado a lado como o Andy Bogard, que ta literalmente torcendo o quadril no 3D, no 2D a posição dele parece mais relaxada e funcional... Okay tambem que essa comparação foi do XV vs o 2002UM, mas alguns personagens deviam ser melhor comparados com o KOF Xlll como Mai e Leona... ...mas é só uma constatação, ok?

  • @carlosaugusto9821

    @carlosaugusto9821

    2 жыл бұрын

    Acho que os sprites clássicos foram escolhidos só pra não ficar tão desigual e humilhante pra KoF 15

  • @losnyappy
    @losnyappy2 жыл бұрын

    It would be great to see this vs KOF XIII Sprites comparison

  • @1v4n01
    @1v4n012 жыл бұрын

    2D sempre foi melhor, e sempre vai ser...olha o capricho até hoje e muito mais bonito...

  • @krisvalderrama9043
    @krisvalderrama90432 жыл бұрын

    terry's muscles are more obvious now

  • @Shendue
    @Shendue2 жыл бұрын

    Looks like the girls stopped hitting the gym and gave their gym subscription to the guys.

  • @af7242
    @af72422 жыл бұрын

    amazing comparison, it would be cool if you do it with KOF XIII vs KOF XV comparison

  • @PedroAndrade25
    @PedroAndrade252 жыл бұрын

    Funny how some characters like Kula and Angel were much better animated in 2D.

  • @suciodan5817
    @suciodan58172 жыл бұрын

    I would have liked SNK to use the EX Blue Mary desing from Real Bout Special.

  • @nikito370
    @nikito3702 жыл бұрын

    Ramon beat the matches, and matches the beat ;)

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