Great information. Thank you for making this informational video!

Great video, very in depth comparison, appreciate the content!

Great vid G and pretty good results. Thanks for the effort 👍😁

G really good video. It’s nice to see the hrc coming in close to spec. Thanks for all your work testing and thanks for sharing brother 👊

@Outpost_76

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

I was glad to see those come through for you. Some brands do not live up to their reputation, these do.

Awsome stuff. Great job by Koenig , solid M390. Thanks for the testing and the video.

@Outpost_76

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

Man, I love the data sheet you put together. Thank you.

@Outpost_76

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome

@isthebeeflol

Жыл бұрын

I miss it lol

@katanasmith

2 ай бұрын

​@@Outpost_76I didn't find a data sheet. Hard to keep up with all your testing. Like to see results charted.

Impressive results!

This is one of my grail knives for sure. Just a beautiful knife, perfect size and that grind and blade shape is “chef’s 💋!”

Thanks for the testing. Maybe one day ....

Good shared insight, thank you.

@Outpost_76

Жыл бұрын

You're welcome

Wow that M390 did awesome, ik you were skeptical of how it would do when we talked about the factory edges, but it looks like König came through

Well done koening. Glad to see this. Still I dislike the model design when I tried one out. Great quality and would love a different design, cause I'm not buying one of these.

Excited to see how the Deka does in Magnacut

@Outpost_76

2 жыл бұрын

I've had the video done for over a month now. I just need to get it published, the move ate up all my time this past month.

We miss you. I hope you're back online soon!

Koenig does a solid job. The non flipper is up there with Shiro and the like. That's some pretty solid company to be in.

@Outpost_76

2 жыл бұрын

It did well and you'll be happy with it.

Looking forward to the Hogue Deka test. I’d like to see you compare it to the Bugout

@Outpost_76

Жыл бұрын

I may do a video about that. I definitely prefer one over the other.

@nomad636

Жыл бұрын

@@Outpost_76 just ordered a Deka Gen 2, and am on the fence about adding a bugout to the collection as well. It would be great to see your take comparing them.

Interesting. I would hope a knife as much as they go for would have a good ht, but we all know that so far price hasn't really been an across the board factor. I have a magnacut Bradford Guardian 3.5, but I don't know how that would compare being a thicker grind fixed blade. So far I'm still on the factory edge, but haven't got a ton of use on it, and what little use I do have was on wood, so a whole different medium so I can't really make any kind of judgement on it yet.

@lionknives3

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Timbo I have the guardian 3.5 with kydex sheath, I made a wider bevel so it's cutting way better now. Hope you are doing well. Greetings

Was it the flipper delete or the texturing that made the m390 feel better? Or was it both?

@Outpost_76

2 жыл бұрын

Both, the milled texture and no flipper pushing against your finger made all the difference.

I've got the exact same as your milled literally same knife except with flipper and with 20cv

Can you explain, or is there a video explaining metal fatigue? Also, have you tested or plan to test Herman knives?

@Outpost_76

2 жыл бұрын

The easiest explanation for fatigue is bending a paper clip until it breaks. That's what happens when yoi strop and edge many many times during continuous use without sharpening. I have not but if I get the opportunity I'll test Herman knives.

@Phiz787

2 жыл бұрын

@@Outpost_76 I guess I understand that, but why then would a factory edge perform poorly due to fatigue? Are the factory edges stropped heavily? Also, wouldn't the 2nd and 3rd resharpened edges perform better and better in terms of endurance just because the thickness bte is greater? Rather than because of a fatigue being sharpened away? Maybe I heard wrong but it seemed like the edge was performing better after resharpening because the metal was fresh. I would think it's geometry instead?

@Outpost_76

2 жыл бұрын

@@Phiz787 edges from the factory in most cases are sharpened and stropped using high speed belts and or wheels. This creates heat which causes fatigue. When that and the abrasive is combined you get metal fatigue and over heating to some degree. The geometry has little to no effect on how well a steel or knife is going to do on non binding materials like cardboard.

Any experience with m390 on the original Benchmade Ritter Grips?

@tacticalcenter8658

2 жыл бұрын

Benchmade m390 not that good at all.

Heard a guy in New Zealand who was using a new sharpening method that improved his M390 rope test from 600 cuts to 900 cuts. Something about using a 450 grit in 1 edge and a 2000 grit on the other.

@andrewfournier8817

Жыл бұрын

Pete at the Cedric and Ada KZread channel tests and demonstrates this

@drakenkorin38

Жыл бұрын

Saw the video where he did the cut test and talked about the method, but he'd said someone else actually did the sharpening, so there wasn't a demo.

@andrewfournier8817

Жыл бұрын

@@drakenkorin38 There is one where he does it. You found the wrong video

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

​@@andrewfournier8817tom hosang outdoors tested it, and it didn't improve. The guy in new Zealand tried different steels and it didn't always work.

I have a gen4B9 20cv really want a magnacut.

I can't wait to see the other Magnacut at different heat treating. By the way, I can't see the Magnacut in your spreadsheet?

@Outpost_76

2 жыл бұрын

There are 6 there with results. I'm going to do a video covering all the tabs of the spreadsheet.

Transparent knives has hardness tested 3 koenig's. Two in m390 and one in 20cv and they were all 62rc. 20cv was 61.9rc basically 62. Which is basically the same as your spyderco m390 at 62 and reates secondary hardening at 60rc. 400ft.

Did the m390 come with no flipper or did you have that done?

@Outpost_76

Жыл бұрын

It's a non flipper Arius

Nice review I do have a non flipper with m390 but recently bought a flipper with CPM 20 CV, I have nott receieved it yet, what do you think it would be?

@Outpost_76

Жыл бұрын

It would have to be tested to find out. Even consistent companies can have higher or lower examples.

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

What brand? I assume it would be no more than 60rc meaning it won't hit over 230ft cut and possibly less.

I'm waiting to see how the Hogue does, curious if they really are going to hit that 61-63 HRC as advertised.

@tacticalcenter8658

2 жыл бұрын

When did they advertise that? News to me.

@johnscarborough4746

2 жыл бұрын

@@tacticalcenter8658 Check the official website.

@nandayane

2 жыл бұрын

I just ordered one of those, black coating bleh but it was in dtock.

@theknifeconnection9571

Жыл бұрын

Now it’s 62-64. And I believe mine is between that based on shapening. But that’s just a belief not a garuntee

@johnscarborough4746

Жыл бұрын

@@theknifeconnection9571 Yeah they got called out early on about it being a little softer than optimum and as they have always done they addressed it

This shows just how superior MagnaCut is. The fact you won't see chips like on m390 or take forever to sharpen those chips out. The all around great qualities of MagnaCut make it such a winner.

@theknifeconnection9571

Жыл бұрын

This is kinda crappy on both for such an expensive knife

@drakenkorin38

Жыл бұрын

Benchmade is using inferior heat treatment on their M390 on the bugout. 58-61 RHC instead of 61-62. Makes it easier to sharpen but lessens edge retention.

@goawaybaizuo

Жыл бұрын

@drakenkorin38 wouldn't expect anything less from a company that dontates to political campaigns of politicians whose sole shtick is stripping American citizens of their rights

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

M390 doesnt chip for me. You probably have a burnt edge or misusing it. Plus m390 archives higher edge retention even when magnacut is one rc harder.

@tacticalcenter8658

9 ай бұрын

Jim Skelton tied a 62rc m390 knife to his car and dragged it without any chips.

Great comparison thank you Sir. I own both and I am extremely happy with MC and M390 to the point that I have hard time choosing a flipper for the day 😂😂😂

@m.k.k.4931

3 ай бұрын

I know my Kershaw link m390 is hard to beat

Maybe someone should show this to “another brand” who claims 59-61 hrc is perfectly fine for m390/20cv/204p.

@johnsellers1272

2 жыл бұрын

Don't you dare drag that clown in here 😤

@ricksmith7232

2 жыл бұрын

Microtech? I’ve been wanting an ultratech but they’re pricey if they do run their “super steels” soft probably to save money during manufacturing

@ricoviq1185

2 жыл бұрын

@@ricksmith7232 he’s probably talking about the horse brand.

So we want magnacut at 63+? The m390 did well. Be nice to get these results with a sub $500 knife 😏

@williamhenderson5834

2 жыл бұрын

The bento box paramilitary 2 in m390 did about as good if I’m not mistaken spyderco does a pretty decent heat treat on m390 nowadays. I think 62.5-63.5 is the butter one on magnacut

@m.k.k.4931

3 ай бұрын

Kershaw link in m390 is 🔥 if u can find them

Holy shite, $1000 on eBay for one of these???!!!! bonkers

personally.......i say....screw that magnacut.....m390 ....better .... with these 2 examples....tempest can run his Mag.....to out cut both of these....leads me to think....heat treat....makes ALL the difference....your videos are the best...by far....NO ONE is better than your videos.....oh.....thinner geometry....mattered TOO....yes

@goawaybaizuo

Жыл бұрын

.... not sure how you perceive m390 as "better"... considering magnacut has more than double the toughness... more stain resistant.... much easier to sharpen.... and has equivalent edge retention.

@kriskielley729

Жыл бұрын

What’s with all the … …. … Morse code?

@theknifeconnection9571

Жыл бұрын

@@kriskielley729yeah kinda hard to understand his madness

@byjynydjshsnny2430

11 ай бұрын

​@@goawaybaizuono edge retention of magnacut is significantly worse

@goawaybaizuo

11 ай бұрын

@@byjynydjshsnny2430 that's patently false. I'd believe it on low RC/bad heat treated magnacut. However, magnacut in the 63-65rc range is fantastic at keeping an edge. At least better than the M390 I've used. Admittedly, I've never had super high RC custom m390. Magnacut is definitely more heat treat dependent than m390. Soft Chinese m390 isn't absolutely awful, but bad magnacut is.

Spending over 150 on a knife seems crazy no matter how much money one has.

@seedeebun

2 жыл бұрын

Depends who you ask, I could easily sell my magnacut textured aruis for about $1100. I paid 700 for it.

@dkperu8558

2 жыл бұрын

Crazy world. 1100 dollar for a knife that titanium scales will be scratched up after 1 use.

@seedeebun

2 жыл бұрын

@@dkperu8558 Save up and you might be able to enjoy one some day.

@dkperu8558

2 жыл бұрын

Believe me I can afford it easily. I am just not a mindless consumer.

@johnsellers1272

2 жыл бұрын

@@dkperu8558 to each their own. I enjoy both of them, and definitely don't mind the cost.