Knife Disarms with Ron Balicki & Diana Inosanto | Many Lessons, One Takeaway!
I had the honor of having the legendary Ron Balicki and Diana Lee Inosanto teach me a few things about knife defense. I had one primary takeaway and a hell of a good time learning! -GN
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To those saying that isolating the thumb this way is too difficult in real life, it can be done at full speed against a resisting opponent but it takes a tremendous amount of practice. After working on these techniques for almost 15 years I can do this type of "palasut" or passing motion without any thought. Also keep in mind that this is only one tool in the Kali / Silat toolbox. If you fail to secure this disarm you flow immediately into something else. One key point that many do not grasp is that the Kali / Silat approach is not based on trying to immediately control the knife. Instead it's based on achieving a positional advantage. Once you have that, you attempt to control the knife arm, then the hand, then get your disarm. Positional advantage + strike > arm > hand > disarm.
@anthonybrogan390
3 жыл бұрын
You only have to get cut once for everything else to go flying out the window. Especially if your opponent does the sowing machine attack sticking you over and over again. As Danny Inosanto says a knife is often felt before it is seen
@boufaressaziz4508
2 жыл бұрын
No it snt your technique are rang
Who’s here after seeing her in The Mandalorian?
@sikomubanga6587
3 жыл бұрын
i did kkkkkkk
@ampdeck
3 жыл бұрын
@@sikomubanga6587 niceeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@harrisondahlstrom6367
3 жыл бұрын
The same episode starring Bruce Lee’s god daughter aired on Bruce Lee’s 80th birthday
@sltorres101
3 жыл бұрын
She also played Buffy's stunt double.
@arthurnolasco185
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, she was in mando?
Both are awesome and the way of explain is completely adorable.
That toe'd round kick to the hip flexor is devastating. Some Dutch systems use it, as does Savate. Incredibly debilitating. What a badass couple, much respect to all of you guys.
what an amazing evolution of this art in the USA. I was introduced to Guru Dan in 1983, at a Maryland seminar, and have been to many of them since. Amazing, down to earth and personable people who love sharing and teaching this awesome art. Great vid, brother
on another unrelated note: Diana seems like the coolest tita(filipino for auntie) ever.....unless you piss her off of course lol
@nowahutaohaver8561
3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the sumbong
I am truly "WOWED!" Thank you for the defensive info!
my thoughts on this is that in a real life or death situation with adrenaline going and an aggressive unpredictable opponent that is constantly moving the knife or more likely trying the sewing machine attack, i'm not sure that the coordination and fine motor skills and reactions would be good enough to isolate the thumb and if you haven't got the thumb then those techniques don't work. i have tried pressure testing knife defense and disarms and am not experienced in kali just know some of the basics a friend showed me(he is an instructor but has decades of martial arts experience as do i), but we did drill all these disarms a lot then tried pressure testing them, and i don't think either of us managed to get the other one's thumb and perform an actual disarm, once you have the thumb the disarm is easy however getting the thumb was almost impossible. what we found as well was that the way we would attack was not what was taught to be defended against as would not wave the knife around infront but would keep it back safely away from disarm range, then approach and use other hand to create an opportunity to stab, often by trying to pin arms across chest and then sewing machine. we decided i think if in a real knife fight what seemed to be most effective was to not go for disarms but just to grab them if the opportunity presented it's self, however trying to go for them resulted in extra stabs (so if someone had never held a knife then there would probably be more opportunity, as both of us have quite a bit of experience so react to disarm attempts and as we train together can often see what they will be going for). so what we found most effective was to jam the elbow of the knife hand whilst using your other arm to try to gain a dominant position (whether by striking or whatever techniques you already know) and to use that moment of control to disengage and run away. so basically only fighting them to get an opportunity to run away. it's like you can train wing chun 20 years every day but in a real fight no techniques come out only reactions and intent, you will never see anyone throw a bong - wu or a tan - da on the street or even in the ring the thing that does come out is the principles and structure (like dominating the center, upper body triangle, structure of a guard) so you will see the structure of well drilled techniques and their intent but will not see the actual technique, so all the intracesis(ok no idea how that should be spelt) and finger positioning disappear but the principles and structure will remain. so from my experience grabbing the thumb is expecting too much in a real life combat scenario but that is only my opinion
@jamesvergara5979
5 жыл бұрын
@The Tide Rises Your right. It is really hard to defend against a knife. SO the best way to fight someone with a knife is to bring a knife as well.
@alradom2122
5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesvergara5979 kzread.info/dash/bejne/fauEu6-LdKvblNY.html
@BluntInnit
4 жыл бұрын
Another interesting point that was made at the end of the video is that once you have engaged and a fight has begun, no matter what happens, you cannot run until the fight is then finished. This is fairly true in any situation but more so when there is a weapon involved.
@ianlondon2888
3 жыл бұрын
You're sort of correct. Understand you may always be cut. Fine tuning you brain and muscles helps you survive in an engagement lasting long than 2 sec. The untrained person will die; they have no mental or reflex battery to rely on.
I like FILIPINO MARTIAL ARTS very EFFECTIVE. thank you guys for sharing this techniques.
She is awesome in the Mandalorian they are the real deal with the knife
Very informative. Thank you for giving out some very important details and giving honor to my ancestors' legacy.
From their explanation and emphasizing on running away, i can tell Mr. Ron and Mrs. Diana have experienced some violent encounter before. No fancy and flashy stuff, just do whatever you can to run away. Nice video paulo.
@damienholland8103
5 жыл бұрын
They taught us the same thing despite all the training we had on knife attacks. First priority: Run away if possible. If you have to fight use the most basic technique you can to control the knife arm. Forget trying to trap the hand (it moves very fast and is hard to see). 'Watch the elbow to get an idea where the knife is going.'
wow this was a pleasure to watch, this form of teaching is fantastic in my view, once repeated many times becomes second nature and flows naturally. I would love to attend your classes!
Love Mr Ron and Ms Diana instructors...very nice to see no ego and someone saying I’m a newb.
6:10 Hi guys! Son Tsi here from the viper kuen school. You probably haven’t heard of us. We are relatively new. I wanted to shed light on Dianna and Ron’s expert tutorial. I mean this very respectfully, and in no way do I think I’m superior to Ron. In no way. But.. with that said. The techniques where we “Try to take a knife?” I’m thinking we ought to scrap that modality. If you pause the camera on the part where Dianna sweeps his arm to the outside and uses a HUEN SAO then uses her open hand to push the knife away with the back of her arm. If you pause it on that take. You’ll notice, the minute you make contact with the opponents knife hand. He’ll likely JERK or PULL BACK. This we refer to as a FRENCH FRIED FINGER EFFECT. Look at when she puts her arm on RONS knife arm near his thumb. If he even turns the knife slightly, just by happenstance even, your going to get cut. The only reason I’m doing this comment, is because I’m working on a modality that does way better. Using BUI SAO to injure the eyes while grabbing in such a way as to twist the attacker around facing away from you. Injuring the eyes viciously. I’ll keep you posted because I’m not completely done with it yet. 🥊💥💯
This video deserves my highest written praise: Fist Bump.
Balicki seems smart and tough, but the chance of this working against a committed attacker is real slim. Something to keep in mind.
Amazing Sir Ron and his wife are really a good martial artist
@lamefart
3 жыл бұрын
Good is an understatement.
*How the hell can i run if the one's chasing me is doug marcaida?*
So beautifully clear. Thanks and respect!
Run or find a chair. Or look around find a stick broom stick sweep stick. A blunt object longer than stick. Even a rolled newspaper.
@GonzoTehGreat
4 жыл бұрын
If you have a coat or heavy jacket is it better to wear it or carry it to use as hand protection?
@nowahutaohaver8561
3 жыл бұрын
Or a tsinelas
I respect the work of the masters and the philosophy of sifu Dan. I am sure that no kind of disarmament would work against them! There is little to do but nothing against an expert, but it is right to study them. Greetings and good training
Ron Balicki ... Gracias por compartir su conocimiento...un saludo.
ive trained briefly in balintawak escrima and even though i enjoyed it, i will still never put my complete faith in any self defense system against knives. never. you are going to get cut and even worse, this is fact. but what i liked about this was when ron demonstrated the ‘point of no return’ - the closest distance where you can’t run away anymore because the attacker will just stab you in the back when you turn your body. therefore, these knife demonstrations/techniques are SOLELY for those ‘point of no return’ situations where you HAVE to commit and engage in stopping the attackers knife hand. just hope that youre not damaged enough afterwards so you can get to a hospital and survive.
I've been in martial arts since I was a teenager and have practiced a handful of styles and I fully admit there was a time when I thought/believed [a lot] of this kind of technique from karate all the way to escrima arts would be effective if learned properly. As I've grown in martial arts, combat sports and "self defense". my honest opinion regarding knife disarms are [for the most part] a waste of time and have an almost zero chance of ever being pulled off in a real world situation. main reason being is the overly complex fine motor movement and number of movements required to even learn it in a controlled and relax environment. More so to the point it has been scientifically verified that when real stress and adrenaline dump happens in true fear of bodily harm or death that fine motor control is basically gone and you're left with gross motor control. I keep this in mind and apply this critique to many of the long standing traditional martial arts and yes, ultimately, this is just my opinion and I give it honestly and without malice. respect to all practioners 🙏🏽
@senseiSinclair
4 жыл бұрын
They do work in eskrima/arnis/kali. If they didn't, many of the masters in the Philippines would be dead. They use to fight off pirates, invaders and each other in duels. or when attacked. The Philippines has some serious crime and violence there. Just don't get to fancy. That stuff is for fun and understanding concepts, not specific situations per say.
@redpillpusher
4 жыл бұрын
@@senseiSinclair with all due respect I'm going to express skepticism. if that stuff is just for "fun" then they shouldn't be teaching it as real world application in the video he actually says he teaches this stuff to law enforcement.
@senseiSinclair
4 жыл бұрын
@@redpillpusher The real applications comes though the progressive stress testing and resistence as you get a better understanding. In our class the teacher even includes sparring, weapons vs weapons, empty hands vs weapons, and empty hands vs empty hands. To only do drills is not enough to apply when it counts. That is what my teachers expresses. I can't speak for others. But i understand your skepticism. i just feel you are missing some important elements from what was traditionally done.
@TheLochs
4 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. I've studied martial arts for 40 years. I have rank in many styles and have traveled the world to study martial styles. Simplicity is the key. Overly flowery moves look great and get you students, but never work in a real world situation. One need to look no further than western boxing. Boxers train their whole lives on simple effective strikes/Defense /Footwork/Angles. And even they cant pull it off every time against an opponent. Now think of a part time Martial artist who goes to the dojo 5x a week. Is he really going to pull off some Yip Man style Gung Fu move? Hell No, not in a million years. Even if giving the benefit of the doubt and you get a highly skilled individual who trains Gung Fu all his life, it still won't work for the above OPs reasons. Ive debated this for years and people don't like to hear it but Its the truth. And sometimes its a hard pill to swallow.
@chrisdunnettmusic
4 жыл бұрын
In Kali we NEVER "look" for the disarm. You are correct yet incorrect. They can and do work r and should be trained so you have that option. However, that is never the first choice. If it's there we take it, if not (given that running is not an option) you do whatever needs to be done. Like any technique, disarms are a tool. Granted, not the easiest to do in most situations and I agree, stress and adrenaline should be factored in but like any tool, there is a time and place for it.
Mr Ron&mrs Diana good job
Love these flows. 😎🙏🏼👍🏼 Amazing work!!
LOVED this! very good stuff...in stress situations with completely different set of rules (even sweat can make any grabbing difficult) as he said initially, running is the best option
Man what an awesome vid.
My edc blade is a karambit. Any ideas on that?a video with different blades would be neat.
you have to just use a figure 4 kimura or have some kind of leather cloth that you can wrap around the blade, or gloves that are strong to shield from the blade
Amazon sells sleeves that are inexpensive, kevlar, like a cut resistant sock going over the forearm. I have a Taylor sew pockets and sheaths into places on my clothes for my tools....discreet carry.
Excellent video! Thanks Ron and Diana, and Aperture!
I wish I could take a private lesson with Diana and Ron.
This will works perfectly in the jason burn movies.
No bullshit here .great teachers with a wealth of down to earth blocks .Thank you sir
Superb superb superb tq for the knife flow
LOVE IT!!
Thank you for sharing OSS!!!
Amazing training. “This isn’t Hollywood your gonna get cut”
much respect from nyc ,bronx ,guro ron is awesome ,gn you are doing great work ,
@julianmarinmoya8734
6 жыл бұрын
nelson0922 o o
Very nicely done.
nifty. only thing missing is her dad, and maybe Doug Marcaida :D
2 masters of kali! Fantastic video!!!!
@optic_assassin46yes47
6 жыл бұрын
Kevin Morley Isn't Ron a JKD guy?
@Kev80ification
6 жыл бұрын
He an expert in both systems.
Nice video. I learned some techniques from you guys. Keep it up.
@martinescalante1429
4 жыл бұрын
kali is awesome to learn, anywhere in the U.S. 2 sticks is not illegal..lol
Lesson number one in knife fight is or should I call it sayonachi
Respect.
Ron and Diana are awesome-learned a lot from their videos. Guro Dan is obviously a legend as well. Good stuff.
@vfc7349
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for referring to teacher or instructor as "Guro". I dont speak Tagalog but i always see people using the word "Guru", which is proper for eastern indian grammar. The way that you used it is proper when speaking of FMA...GURO.
The trouble with these self-defence methods is that the majority of the time they don’t work in real situations and give naive people the idea that they can protect themselves. Maybe better than not having any experience at all but still dangerous if instead of avoiding and escalating situation or running away from a situation you feel confident and stay then try to fight. An experienced martial artist gets into a situation at a bar, most altercations happen that way; the experienced martial artist has had enough of this thug threatening him and his wife so he puts his glass down to prepare himself to defend or attack the guy, the thug just shoves the glass in his face, he doesn’t put his glass down, different way of thinking. Its split seconds that make the difference, by the time most people realise they are going to be involved in bother it’s over. Most people who get stabbed don't even know that the person has knife and the don't realise they have been cut until they see their entrails hanging down past their knees; basically people with knives don't flash them about or even signal that they intend to attack you.
I like it when you go closer to the camera,thanks.
Good advice telling folks to RUN as the first option to being faced with a blade in the street.......Running may bruise the ego but is a 'profitable enterprise'....For instance with Wong Jack Man we learned that experience showed that the best way of dealing with BRUCE LEE in a no rules fight was to RUN AWAY.....TERRIBLY FAST.....lol
I liked the beginning and retention/stopping the knife pull, 2 on 1 control etc...and then they did the knife pass and wrist stuff. Shoulda quit while they were ahead. Any kind of fine motor skill takeaway when it comes to knife in a stress situation is no bueno in my book.
@JoeMac1983
4 жыл бұрын
100%. Beginning was extremely practical. The rest of it is "art" with no street value for anyone who doesn't practice this hours a day for years before needing to use it.
@zenslakr
4 жыл бұрын
Anyone trained by the Inosanto crew is well aware of the loss of fine motor skill in an adrenalin dump. They have been talking about that for 20 years. That is why they use their forearm to redirect instead of trying to grab from the get go. You slide up using feel instead of coordination. People at high risk of a knife attack do train this stuff for years.
Guro Balicki is awesome! 🙏🏻
DIANA IS BEAUTIFUL!!
outstanding drill!!
Simplistic and informative. Great video for beginners such as myself. I got a lot out of this. Thank you both.
Redirecting energy can also be used to the opponents advantage. The opponent can build off the redirecting energy. This must be looked in to. Very great video regardless. Any information can help
Here's what I think re: the knife? "Chase the world...and the world will run away from you? Run away from this world....and IT will chase YOU ! R.J.
7:31 so it’s a thumb submission... I didn’t know that.?
Would love to do knife training
an important lesson leaned here !..you have to be taken to the pain or you will never understand the tech behind it !.
same disarms from the lamenco video very consistent through the years
i like this style💙💙💙
SUBSCRIBED. The Husband & wife that knife train & pray together , stay together
Locking the thumb digit is correct, but never ever touch the blade, instead slam to back of palm on the knuckles trying to break the wrist.. The hand will open and knife will drop.. follow up with open hand strike to the voice box & then snep the eye ball with speed... They will grasp the eye and choke, then break the knee joint. real street fighting .. I have doe it 11 times as a nightclub security. also disarmed 4 handguns & 2 rifle types.. In my life I been taking martial arts from age of 8 year sold till now 57.. doing this techniques must be done 500 times and brushed up 20 times a day.. speed, technique & perfection is key...
Met guru Ron at NRAAM, so personable.
" Diana " acts like a big shot a little bit ..lol too funny
WOW, thank you for sharing. So many little things in this vid, that are often over looked in other vid.
I don't agree with the 1st technique that you showed as far as grabbing his hands when he was reaching for his blade because you're gonna get punched in the face and then you're just gonna pull the knife at that point and step you anyway Yes this is just my opinion but I've been around the block a few times And that would not work the 2nd technique that you showed I bow to you sir It made sense It was a all around decent technique I have been studying many years Like I said I've been around the block quite a few times in conclusion have a great day thank you so much for your knowledge
I got into a fight with a guy and his friend grabbed me, threatened me with a knife, and I couldn't get away because he cornered me.
@notprovided1131
4 жыл бұрын
@@thyssenheinel6507 Thank you for your advice.
These two masters did not change 😊 they look young and healthy 😊
Very nice. Thank you for your knowledge
What if its a double bladed knife
If they manage to do it at the speed of a real attack, they will have an admirer in me and my total respect, just as they are teaching it, I can only say that their technique is only hypothetical and never proven.
In the traditional calm setting it’s fine, in real world violence not in a million years, nothing works, only luck and just survival
love to ya bro..I love that initial cali style strike to the fore arm and the big loop pushing the the knife hand towards him, but I am way to ignorant to do much more.If I get that arm pushed down and chased around in a circle and catch it with one hand I will grab it with both hands any way I can get a hold of it. the wing chun fellow said "control the weapon at all costs".I am not letting go to grab the thumb base I am not trying to knock that knife out of his hand, while I try to hold on with one hand. I will be kicking shins stomping feet trying to stab the guy with his own hand, biting beating that hand on anything handy, twisting that arm out of the socket.You are correct about "don't let them pull the weapon, and grabbing those hands." I am not nearly so polite as you are the second they reach for that weapon I grab those hands and head butt them as fast as I can, and push. them back wards as fast as I can, as far as I can.Hope fully when they fall I will be on top of them driving the other guys elbows in the ground with all my weight on my hands.I really love the video but I am not that skilled.
I can’t even see! is all the way down there! If they come a little more closer to the camera!
Geez... wouldn't he be so nice, Ron Balicki would scare the shit outta you...
The knife is a sneaky weapon so to speak, to show the weapon is for intimidation most times the person using it will target the weaker and better to give up your belongings than taking a chance on trying to use any of these moves. You will get cut just depends on how badly it will happen to you
Now let's see some pressure testing
"The best defense against a knife is a gun" What the fuck? Anyone ever heard of a flamethrower?
remember lesson #15.
Lmao. These negative commentors are brainless. This video is a lesson: to learn and understand body/weapon mechanics. A spar is where you apply the lesson's concept of the body/weapon mechanics. That's the whole point of training or studying: learn to apply, then apply to learn.
@redpillpusher
5 жыл бұрын
but that's the million dollar question right: is what you're training in and/or studying actually [applicable] ...in other words will these techniques learned in this manner actually be "applicable" when the time comes? one thing that I feel needs to be seriously addressed is the nature of what you call "body/weapon mechanics" realize that these are subjective to the style and these may or may not be practical ..this is what needs to be discerned.
@gneminerift7485
5 жыл бұрын
@@redpillpusher i agree dont get me wrong - we live the 21st century. If a person is unable to take and learn any single move without discussing it or breaking it down to its core then it's the persons fault not the art as bogus as that sounds. Each person should be able to realize that much: to learn or master a concept, then review it thoroughly, break it down, and enhance it to make it their own. Reverse engineering a technique or an art to suit a variety of circumstances or to suit your capabilities because everyone is different.
@jamesvergara5979
5 жыл бұрын
@@redpillpusher These moves actually work. The thing is our US Special Forces will not permit people to upload videos on youtube on how to disarm a knife using Kali because those are secret moves the public should not know. This is why you don't see too many good knife disarm videos posted on youtube about it. One of my friends who is in Special Forces posted a video on how to disarm a knife the way he was taught and it was removed on KZread. This video is just a basic understanding of body mechanics. If you take the full course of Kali knife training, it would take you years to learn. Your right, there is no one move to disarm a knife. There are many moves and you have to keep practicing it until you memorize it.
@ajproductions2268
5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesvergara5979 you're right bro. Here in PH kali/eskrima teachers they only show a couple of disarming and other technique. You'll doubt and think about the effectivity of it at first, but here's the catch. They'll let you understand everything and that what they taught you is only a lock for you to be open.
@ajcastellon5903
4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesvergara5979 I just dislike the fact the in all this knife training no one ever talks about getting cut. Yes you could pull of these moves but in an instant you'll be cut. Doesn't mean you can't perform an attack or defense it's just that within that you'll probably definitely be cut especially if you dont have a weapon. So everyone prancing around talking about how all this is, is for body mechanics and blah blah. I've been attacked a couple times and hurt with bladed objects. I've also been shot. Yes unless it's immediately debilitating or life ending you'll still have a lot of fight in you. But all this sterile training omits one important thing, you'll still probably get hurt but hopefully not too bad especially in a life or death situation. So yes it can work but faced with a weapon like that it's pretty easy to get hurt yourself but this kind of training could give you an edge...
But who attacks that way
Where can I go to train with them lol
If you run you better have better cardio cause when the person or people catch you will now are fighting out of breath. Situational awareness is very important. Handling extreme adrenaline dump is very important. Cardio is very important. Without those 3 your awsome techniches have no use in my opinion
Talking knives living Heads flowered
@gerhardmayer6289
Жыл бұрын
Harribo
The blocking maneuver would never work. At the beginning,the woman blocks and then states that you have to press forward in order to avoid a cut across the body when you redirect. You are not going to avoid the cut. Having a blade cross your mass is just dumb unless the blade is crossing far away, say at a distance of a sword length. . How I've loved eastern martial arts but HEMA is as close as it gets to effective fencing and dealing with a blade.
At 6:44 if you switch your lead leg you won't get your femoral artery cut.
Vs knife..no better than kali escrima and particularly pekiti tersia by Guro Tuhon.T.Gaje.
Against a real attack? Ha, Ha, Ha. You guys kill me.
i feel a little sorry for him, two masters not gonna let him quite easily unless he master it. his face was like " please master let me go home"
i m not sure i could pull off these little nuances in the grip - if i was adrenalised.
in real life situation we should already saw some signs that its gonna be life or death before it hapens ten steps ahead we should always be the one who gives the first strike ...if u wanna survive a real life or death situation no fear ones u decide to engage
dati naglalaro ako ng video game n Metal Gear peacewalker tapos may martial arts system dun tawag CQC (cloase quartes combat) eto pala un!!!!sobrang galing, mas makatotohana at mas epektibo talaga to.sana matutunan ko rin to. SALAMAT AT MABUHAY ANG KALI.
You are going to be as good as Frank Castle after this training bro :) FMA is an amazing art
How wonderful. ...☺
My master
Why shoes on Mat.? o.O
I love it, but can you guys please give credit to Aikido. Majority of the elements are here
@drisszyani3497
3 жыл бұрын
Kali uses knife also and not only aïkido
@samiibrahim3082
3 жыл бұрын
This predates Aikido and its mother art Daito Ryu.