King or Jokester? [Shock Value Ep.5]

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We tested FIVE different suspension setups without knowing which setup we were driving, all on the same exact truck, in the same terrain. We wanted to know what setup was the best with NO biases. We were very surprised by the results!
Fox, King, Elka, Bilstein and Icon were all tested in this full review series shoot out.
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  • @TheThrill44
    @TheThrill44 Жыл бұрын

    Can we have a follow up video explaining why you would or wouldn't purchase each shock? Which you felt was best on road, which was best off-road, etc? Thanks!

  • @fouUili684
    @fouUili684 Жыл бұрын

    As an owner of king shocks on my 15 tundra for 5 years with no sway bar, I’m proud of them and they are worth money. I might invest in those bilsteins as a second set for when my kings need rebuilding. Thank you for doing this.

  • @orionisfor7782
    @orionisfor7782 Жыл бұрын

    I actually learned the time these videos were released by the end of the series. Really cool series and a service to all the Tacoma owners out there. Reasonable to remember that a few things (custom valving, rear crossbar and hangers) probably make a huge difference. Adding more variables would also make a near impossible test setup. Thanks for this series it was really cool.

  • @Yotapuga

    @Yotapuga

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea hangers make a HUGE difference

  • @Poxyquotl

    @Poxyquotl

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean,, can't you adjust the stiffness of the suspension on most of these? Curious as to have they all would preform if they were really 'dialed in' for the best comparison.

  • @Yotapuga

    @Yotapuga

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Poxyquotl looks like they got the non adjustable 2.5 shocks to make it a better comparison of all of them straight from the manufacturer

  • @MrPiimpslap

    @MrPiimpslap

    Жыл бұрын

    ​​@@Poxyquotl They mentioned in the first video that 99% of shock buyers will never tune them, so they wanted to compare out of the box performance.

  • @Poxyquotl

    @Poxyquotl

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrPiimpslap shame you would spend 3k on a suspension and then not take advantage of its features

  • @ytrabbithole6893
    @ytrabbithole6893 Жыл бұрын

    Great series, like others have said it would be cool to compare the entry level shocks as well: 5100s, 6112, fox 2.0 etc and perhaps throw in a 2.5” shock to demonstrate how much of an upgrade from an entry level shock it is. Also not entry level at all, but curious how the OME BP51s would have compared in this.

  • @silentshredr

    @silentshredr

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree! This is where the majority of owners are

  • @spencerwarholik2904

    @spencerwarholik2904

    Жыл бұрын

    Also curious about how the 6112 compares to some of the other close in price options.

  • @TacoBruso
    @TacoBruso Жыл бұрын

    this series was excellent, thank you for putting it together. I would love to see another episode where you wrap it all together. I have bought from Overland Outfitters in the past and love their service. I'm actually considering changing my shocks and would appreciate seeing final conclusions or recommendations. Either way great series.

  • @BrandonBrooke453
    @BrandonBrooke453 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you guys for doing these series! I have learned lots of new things!! Please do more of these kinds of series

  • @freedomtyler8925
    @freedomtyler8925 Жыл бұрын

    This is the best video series I’ve ever watched very informative

  • @DADVNTRS
    @DADVNTRS Жыл бұрын

    Awesome series, was on edge if my seat each day waiting for these!

  • @zacharyhainline6220
    @zacharyhainline6220 Жыл бұрын

    I would love to see another entry in the series with the OME BP-51s. Not sure how that could be done blind but it's also a strong suspension contender.

  • @ADanNeedsAName

    @ADanNeedsAName

    Жыл бұрын

    I was wishing they included these as well.

  • @AlexM-np1cx

    @AlexM-np1cx

    Жыл бұрын

    They aren’t true 2.5” shocks

  • @lukekelly2590

    @lukekelly2590

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@AlexM-np1cxThat's the propoganda certain manufacturers like to tell you. Are you aware that Fox 2.5 and King 2.5 use different piston sizes? Piston size is why they say the BP-51 isn't a true 2.5 There are 2 factors. 1. Surface area for heat to dissipate. This is essentially the external dimensions of the shock. Which BP-51 qualifies as 2.5. 2. Valve area to provide damping. Once you move past the primitive King and Fox 2.5 coilovers designs like the rest of the world has, you realise that there is more damping available than just on the main piston. In the case of the BP-51 this is through the internal bypass valves and also through the compression adjuster mechanism valves. So you take the 51mm piston (which is much larger than a Fox 2.0 piston) valve area, and add the bypass valves area and add the adjuster mechanism valves area.

  • @youngjet63

    @youngjet63

    10 ай бұрын

    BPs suck from what I’ve read. Not worth comparing from what I’ve been reading…

  • @markparent3323
    @markparent3323 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks guys for doing a real world blind head to head comparison. This is the unbiased content I am always hoping to find so I can get educated on the next product I spend my hard earned money on. You guys rock! M.

  • @Mike-kr9ys
    @Mike-kr9ys Жыл бұрын

    Good test, well done. Thanks for doing this.

  • @freidrichnietzsche6643
    @freidrichnietzsche66433 ай бұрын

    Have kings on my 16 Silverado and wish I didn’t wait so long before mounting them! Awesome kit for sure.

  • @kuyaa93
    @kuyaa93 Жыл бұрын

    I actually have the same kings 2.5 set up and oh my gosh I love them coming from a Leveling kit its night n day!! difference pricy but very worth it to me 🙂

  • @victorbarraza6005
    @victorbarraza6005 Жыл бұрын

    Great video series, guys! So much useful info, especially to those are in the market for shocks. Keep them coming! Maybe do a series comparing 2” shocks/entry level?

  • @artofwar1776
    @artofwar1776 Жыл бұрын

    Such a great test series! Thank you!

  • @JD83734
    @JD83734 Жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see how a set of deavers in the rear would help this rig after seeing the rear buck in all the videos

  • @nickeisenbarth2011
    @nickeisenbarth2011 Жыл бұрын

    More of these test. Please. Loved this

  • @DBCoffroad
    @DBCoffroad Жыл бұрын

    You guys are awesome. Thank you for doing this!

  • @randolphbeltz6787
    @randolphbeltz6787 Жыл бұрын

    Good testing. It might have been more interesting if the stock shocks were also a trial.

  • @Moelester692

    @Moelester692

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah stock shocks should of been the control or base data

  • @1augustub1
    @1augustub1 Жыл бұрын

    Great series, I would have liked to have seen the stock Toyota set up compared too.

  • @roadrunneradventuresmx3053
    @roadrunneradventuresmx3053 Жыл бұрын

    Great series good job guys!

  • @Absolute_Unit135
    @Absolute_Unit135 Жыл бұрын

    It would be awesome to see you guys test the Ironman 4x4 foam cell pro shocks on the 3rd gen Tacoma. Really curious to see how you guys would compare them to these first 5 brands you’ve tested

  • @JPWineberg
    @JPWineberg Жыл бұрын

    Would love to see a list of best to worst knowing what you know now! Great series, can’t wait to see more!

  • @perchowski3021
    @perchowski3021 Жыл бұрын

    The shocks I've been waiting for to review!

  • @silvermonk13
    @silvermonk13 Жыл бұрын

    Love this video series. Just got confirmation that my Tacoma should be arriving today so I'm super excited to start modifying. Seems like I'm going to be going with the bilsteins though

  • @OscarOverlanding
    @OscarOverlanding Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!!! This is very helpful and super smart!!! I really dig both of your channels and really appreciate your knowledge and honesty. I curious about your thoughts on the Ironman Foam Cell Pro 3.0?

  • @robbergstrom943
    @robbergstrom943 Жыл бұрын

    awesome series. subscribed.

  • @erice4611
    @erice4611 Жыл бұрын

    You should test out the Ironman foam cell pros.

  • @AROD.
    @AROD. Жыл бұрын

    This series was bad ass !!!!

  • @hockeymon1
    @hockeymon1 Жыл бұрын

    It would be cool to see the shocks torn apart now and also see a comparison of the quality of materials. Maybe a future season 2 of shock value? Locked offroad, radflo, toytec, and any others I can't think of.

  • @chriswoods3271
    @chriswoods3271 Жыл бұрын

    Would be great if you posted a recap video comparing all of them and either in the video or the description touch on anything else done to the truck (including tire and wheel setup). Also if you posted links to the products in the descriptions

  • @nnannaokoroji8451
    @nnannaokoroji8451 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for producing such an informative video. To complete this video, it will be nice to see a review of the Old Man Emu shocks. I am actually leaning toward these for truck I am planning to build and ship to Africa. Why Old Man Emu? The reliability is second to none. Second, they are built for the outback which has a similar climate to Africa. Keep Up The Good Work!

  • @njkomp
    @njkomp Жыл бұрын

    I am a little disappointed in the review of the bolstein 8112, and fox 2.5’s those were my top two contenders.. lol

  • @AlexM-np1cx

    @AlexM-np1cx

    Жыл бұрын

    They said the 8112 were one of the best ones

  • @fouUili684

    @fouUili684

    Жыл бұрын

    They were the best at high speed off-road, no shock will be perfect at everything. Don’t forget you can also revalve all of them to ride better

  • @SirEmoSushi
    @SirEmoSushi Жыл бұрын

    Love this, more please

  • @patrick_jaq
    @patrick_jaq Жыл бұрын

    Will you guys have a recap video where you compile the comparisons and offer siggestions?

  • @vincefairleigh6899

    @vincefairleigh6899

    Жыл бұрын

    I second that, I had no idea the whole time what shock they were testing… these guys might be awesome for sure but this shock competition is a huge fail for me, the king are clearly junk for leaking on just one test run, and the material is going to rust if you live in the rust belt..

  • @lucasvogel8497
    @lucasvogel8497 Жыл бұрын

    great videos!

  • @citizenpark2782
    @citizenpark278211 ай бұрын

    I appreciate you and this video

  • @4xhoser
    @4xhoser Жыл бұрын

    Loved this series! 🤘🇨🇦 no Dobinson MRRs?

  • @PittsburghActive
    @PittsburghActive Жыл бұрын

    The series was great! Thanks! Sub!

  • @sausagegut
    @sausagegut Жыл бұрын

    You should do a video of a before and after a rebuild to show what a custom tuned shock should look over the high speed whoops. You can use my v8 4runner😂 I have kings 2.5 ext all around, TC upper and lower control arms and duro bumpstops

  • @brentthibault3467
    @brentthibault3467 Жыл бұрын

    I’ve got the 4 door bronco badlands with the Sasquatch package and was wondering; do you think there would be a dramatic difference upgrading from the bilstein shocks that come with the Sasquatch package?

  • @effinhaoli808
    @effinhaoli808 Жыл бұрын

    So the front needs a good replacement UCA like SPC Adjustable for several reasons, and the rear needs a new leaf pack preferably with hammer hangers…also removing sway bar at own risk obviously helps articulation ✌🏽

  • @benlewis168
    @benlewis168 Жыл бұрын

    Would love to see a vid with the dobinson MRR kit!

  • @vincefairleigh6899
    @vincefairleigh6899 Жыл бұрын

    I wish I knew what order they were tested, what was best?

  • @FDESLOSSY
    @FDESLOSSY Жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha let’s goooooo finally. Yes blue is better!!! If you turn the compression up you won’t have that bucking and if you tune them for the truck it feels almost like long travel.

  • @imperialtekk9443
    @imperialtekk9443 Жыл бұрын

    I'm curious what pound coil those kings have on them. I'm running 700lb coils on my kings but I also have armor and lots of it.

  • @NWPURSUIT

    @NWPURSUIT

    Жыл бұрын

    I asked them they said all of them had 600lb coils

  • @Nodotaimza
    @Nodotaimza Жыл бұрын

    Can we please see a video from one of you on the falcon adjustables on the jeeps please 🎉

  • @bschuske
    @bschuske9 ай бұрын

    I have Fox 2.5 resi with an add a leaf in therear. Thier sick

  • @max7143
    @max7143 Жыл бұрын

    Solid review of all the brands. Would of liked to see the BP52’s.

  • @OverlandOutfitters

    @OverlandOutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    We did all the testing, then all the interviews in the shop, and then revealed all the shocks after. The magic of editing

  • @max7143

    @max7143

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OverlandOutfitters oh ok, I thought you revealed the shocks after each session. I’ll edit my post. 👍🏻

  • @tacotrucks882
    @tacotrucks882 Жыл бұрын

    I want to take my 2023 TRD PRO through course, I bet she handles the best!

  • @mtbgeoff
    @mtbgeoff Жыл бұрын

    I know you said you couldn’t get icons with remote reservoirs. How would that affect the tests? Also, would adjustable dampening on any of these change the results?

  • @AlexM-np1cx

    @AlexM-np1cx

    Жыл бұрын

    Remote resi would mostly affect how long you can run without overheating the shocks

  • @ronlewis6766
    @ronlewis6766 Жыл бұрын

    Only thing that might make these reviews more helpful is to include the price as tested.

  • @imperialtekk9443

    @imperialtekk9443

    Жыл бұрын

    And the what pound coils each shock is has on them.

  • @jurelle
    @jurelle Жыл бұрын

    I'm sad at how much better Kings was off the shelf than Fox but honestly not surprised King is taking more time to add the valving the stock suspension needs (Its very King of them🥁) versus Fox just adding whatever tune they think is best. Would've been nice to see the Fox shocks with the DSC adjusters though versus the ones without like you guys ran. I loved this series so much, thank you guys!🤘

  • @NWPURSUIT

    @NWPURSUIT

    Жыл бұрын

    Would be nice to see the fox performance elite series

  • @airakklein

    @airakklein

    Жыл бұрын

    They needed a level playing field, and not all the shocks offer a high and low speed adjuster setup.

  • @levitate8918
    @levitate8918 Жыл бұрын

    You guys should test a set of radflos!

  • @DUNEATV
    @DUNEATV Жыл бұрын

    What is the size of those tires?

  • @hudsonms
    @hudsonms Жыл бұрын

    From the footage, looks like it needs to be dialed in a little better. Lacking some Low speed compression, and the front looks like it dives too much. Needs some rebound adjustments, maybe more in the front.

  • @speedegg6170
    @speedegg6170 Жыл бұрын

    DAMN. So if I were to buy unadjusted shocks it should be 4 or 5 (Bilsteins or Fox). A tad disappointed that the rear Fox shafts showed some oil residue after that test. If anything, maybe I should start looking at adjustable shocks. 🤔

  • @OverlandOutfitters

    @OverlandOutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    Fifth test was king not fox. Test one was fox

  • @speedegg6170

    @speedegg6170

    Жыл бұрын

    Whoops. I meant KING. King Shocks. Dammit, Freudian Slip I was thinking about Fox. Meant to say KING. King of Shocks. LoL.

  • @speedegg6170

    @speedegg6170

    Жыл бұрын

    @@OverlandOutfitters And EXCELLENT series. Thanks for doing this.

  • @omalleyc068
    @omalleyc068 Жыл бұрын

    Will ori's be tried in the future?

  • @victorrial1890
    @victorrial1890 Жыл бұрын

    Is there any type of lift with those struts or stock height, and what is the wheel set up?

  • @justinvanbibber6234

    @justinvanbibber6234

    Жыл бұрын

    285/70r17 KO2s over method 703

  • @Yoman1971
    @Yoman1971 Жыл бұрын

    Hi all! Nice initiative on the blind testing. Do to my area of off road we do no have speed off-roading as is more of a tropical Island in the Caribbean and is more of mud and sticky clay. Like your thought on the equipment tested if any at all would work for my type of off roading. Thank you in advance. 👍🏻

  • @vegasrider05
    @vegasrider05 Жыл бұрын

    Fox tuned from AccuTune!!!!! Can't beat it.

  • @tboe-cr8pz

    @tboe-cr8pz

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes you can, Kings tuned from accutune!

  • @mlb82gaming32
    @mlb82gaming32 Жыл бұрын

    The shocks on The table were different then the ones on the truck? So the oil they see is irrelevant?

  • @OverlandOutfitters

    @OverlandOutfitters

    Жыл бұрын

    The shocks on the table were the same ones we used on the truck

  • @stevenpeterson7234
    @stevenpeterson7234 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome videos guys!! I think I'll keep my live axle, much better all around then IFS any day!!

  • @tbrick9344
    @tbrick9344 Жыл бұрын

    Which Method wheels are on that Tacoma?

  • @YaBoyJeezy714

    @YaBoyJeezy714

    Жыл бұрын

    Looks like 703

  • @BigDogsGottaEat1
    @BigDogsGottaEat1 Жыл бұрын

    Great series. I would also like to see how Radflow, ADS and Bilstein 6112’s compare as well. Been hearing really good things about the ADS suspension lately.

  • @silaslai5913
    @silaslai5913 Жыл бұрын

    Y didn't said test tire psi Trucks while how many lb in back What your test

  • @1stGenMillie
    @1stGenMillie Жыл бұрын

    What’s the tire and wheel specs? Ty

  • @justinvanbibber6234

    @justinvanbibber6234

    Жыл бұрын

    285/70r17 KO2s on Method 703s

  • @lancef5636
    @lancef5636 Жыл бұрын

    The last set you knew they were Kings.

  • @bquade70
    @bquade70 Жыл бұрын

    Next up.... More affordable shock comparison!

  • @arkdave
    @arkdave11 ай бұрын

    test ironmanfoamcell pro n bp51 sir

  • @frankvielma4102
    @frankvielma4102 Жыл бұрын

    What wheels are those?

  • @justinvanbibber6234

    @justinvanbibber6234

    Жыл бұрын

    Method 703 in gloss titanium

  • @frankvielma4102

    @frankvielma4102

    Жыл бұрын

    @@justinvanbibber6234 thanks

  • @jasonkimble8926
    @jasonkimble8926 Жыл бұрын

    Eibach , should be in

  • @elpescador4963
    @elpescador49638 ай бұрын

    Yeah yeah yeah is all I heard 🤣🤣🤣

  • @GhettoFabulous670
    @GhettoFabulous670 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Looks like I'm getting kings now. Eibachs ain't it man...

  • @JamesBerkey

    @JamesBerkey

    Жыл бұрын

    If I learnt anything, Get the bilseins and spend the rest on gas

  • @sleeks9939

    @sleeks9939

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish they tested the Bilstein 8112 or the Dobinsion other then that this was a great series.

  • @sleeks9939

    @sleeks9939

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JamesBerkey and a sway bar 😂

  • @JamesBerkey

    @JamesBerkey

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sleeks9939 which ones did they test in Shock Value Ep.4? the 8100's?

  • @javin028

    @javin028

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sleeks9939 they did test 8112s in video 4. 8112 front, 8100 rear. The 8100 in the video is the “smooth body” version. The bypass version isn’t mentioned, but performs even better.

  • @chrisking6695
    @chrisking66954 ай бұрын

    Funny that you’re saying Icon is better for off road than King

  • @OverlandOutfitters

    @OverlandOutfitters

    4 ай бұрын

    When did we say that?!?

  • @Yakplanet_tv
    @Yakplanet_tv Жыл бұрын

    Can you test the bilstien rear and kings front or vice versa

  • @jasoncostello3471
    @jasoncostello347111 ай бұрын

    Sportsbra's 🤣

  • @nickgood8166
    @nickgood816610 ай бұрын

    Loose the word 'ones' after 'these'!

  • @nastysoda9212
    @nastysoda9212 Жыл бұрын

    kings are outdated

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