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King Charles meets his mother Joanna the Mad after 11 years (Carlos, rey emperador)
Charles and his sister Eleanor meets their imprisoned mother Joanna the Mad after more than 11 years. They also meet their youngest sister Catherine for the first time in their lives. The meeting between mother and son is successful and, as the legitimate Queen regnant of Spain, Joanna gives her support to Charles to become king.
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'Carlos, Rey Emperador' is a Spanish TV series about the life of Charles of Habsburg, Holy Roman Emperor and King of Spain, the most powerful man in his time.
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Despite all the circumstances, Joanna still loved her children at her own way. She was just broken by her husband and then cast aside by her father. At least Charles tried to give her the little attention he could, by visiting her with Isabella and letting his children go visit their grandmother sometimes.
@amygrowcott
7 жыл бұрын
Caty Fierce yes it's so sad what happened to Juana, though I think it's possible she might have inherited the mental illness that her grandmother had, which was probably some form of depression or schizophrenia. Some sources claim that Carlos was just as cruel to her as his father and grandfather, even saying that he denied her any visitors all the years she was confined, but could that be the Black Legend talking?
@Magdalenkaization
6 жыл бұрын
Which Juana's grandmother was ill?
@amygrowcott
6 жыл бұрын
Magdalenkaization her maternal grandmother Isabel of Portugal, the mother of Isabel I of Castile. Sadly, her condition worsened so much so that the last time Queen Isabel saw her mother, the old woman no longer recognised her daughter and actually, the same thing happened to Juana because in her later years, it got to the point where she no longer recognised the people who regularly visited her, including her grandson Felipe II. Mental illness clearly ran in the family because one of Juana’s granddaughters also suffered from mental health problems, but I can’t remember which one. It may have been her great-granddaughter, but I’m not sure...
@Magdalenkaization
6 жыл бұрын
In addition, Rudolf II Habsburg, the Holy Roman Emperor (great-grandson of Joanna the Mad) was known to have had a succession of affairs with women, some of whom claimed to have been impregnated by him. He had several illegitimate children with his mistress Catherina Strada. Their eldest son, Don Julius Caesar d'Austria, was likely born between 1584 and 1586 and received an education and opportunities for political and social prominence from his father. In 1607, Rudolf sent Julius to live at Český Krumlov in Bohemia (in the modern-day Czech Republic) castle, which Rudolf purchased from the last of the House of Rosenberg (Peter Vok/Wok von Rosenberg) after he fell into financial ruin. Julius lived at Český Krumlov when in 1608 he reportedly abused and murdered the daughter of a local barber, who had been living in the castle, and then disfigured her body. Rudolf condemned his son's act and suggested that he should be imprisoned for the rest of his life. However, Julius died in 1609 after showing signs of schizophrenia, refusing to bathe, and living in squalor; his death was apparently caused by an ulcer that ruptured
@amygrowcott
6 жыл бұрын
Yikes!! Yes Rudolf II also had mental health problems - he suffered from melancholia, which was common in the Hapsburg line. Carlos, himself, suffered from melancholia for the rest of his life after Isabel died. Unfortunately, as a ruler, Rudolf II was nothing like his grandfather Fernando and his great-uncle Carlos. He was certainly a patron of the arts, but his preoccupation with the arts resulted in multiple disastrous political failures. Good thing the Austrian Hapsburg branch eventually got the great Empress Maria Theresa, the only woman to rule the house as Holy Roman Empress.
The acting talent in this series is UNREAL. Carlos' youth and naivete not just outwardly but in the way he addresses his own mother, Eleanor's understandably complicated relationship with family members, where you can see just how much her upbringing in court influences her personality; and Queen Joanna's stately bearing especially when she looks at her son as she reminds him what is expected of him. Amazing. Not to mention how totally fiiine they all are. Accuracy aside, the visual aesthetic is also undeniable. This series is a great testament to Spanish history, which the world needs more of. The 19th century was not kind to Spain, but I hope the tide turns.
@arnauuu1
4 жыл бұрын
Are you Spanish?
@Rose-gs4iy
2 жыл бұрын
19th century Spain became blood-stained French. The Austrian Habsburgs deserves the throne but at least it's the Bourbons who are fucked up with the Leyenda Negra
Please, don't call Joanna the Mad, she's Joanna I of Castille.
I like the Spanish accent. Rising and falling intonation makes it more sound good, classic and superior.
@bensonfang1868
2 жыл бұрын
Wouldnt Charles not be too good at Spanish given that he was raised in the Netherlands and Germany?
@Rose-gs4iy
2 жыл бұрын
@@bensonfang1868 yes, his Spanish was terrible when he was young and needed some major adjustments and was not well received in Castile and Aragon. His brother Ferdinand easily adjusted when he became the HRE.
I love that accent. It is music to my ears.
@magnusvir117
3 жыл бұрын
That's the real Spanish accent.
@navy4735
2 жыл бұрын
lol same here cant get enough of it...gorgeous..lol.
@florenlopez6266
Жыл бұрын
Es español puro.
"Juana of Castile, the last queen of Spanish blood to inherit her country’s throne, is an enigmatic figure, shrouded in lurid myth. Was she the bereft widow of legend who was driven mad by her loss, or has history misjudged a woman who was ahead of her time?" ~C.W. Gortner's The Last Queen
@enriquepascual8767
5 жыл бұрын
Her sister, Catalina de Aragón that became Queen of England was another exceptional woman. The controversial book De Institutione feminae Christianae by Juan Luis Vives, which stated that women have the right to an education, was commissioned by her and dedicated to her. Such was the impression that Catherine caused on the people who, even her enemy Thomas Cromwell, said of her: "If it were not for her sex, she could have challenged all the heroes of history." The queen won a victory with the successful appeal for the lives of the rebels involved in Evil May Day, to those who defended for the sake of their families. Catalina also earned widespread admiration for initiating a broad program for the relief of the poor. The Queen was a patron of Renaissance humanism and friend of the great scholars Erasmus of Rotterdam and Thomas More. The world doesn't know yet how much owes to Spain.
@alondraperez-ramirez8363
5 жыл бұрын
@@enriquepascual8767 fun fact, Oliver Cromwell actually refused to attack St. Peterborough cathedral because he felt disturbing 'pious Queen Catherine's resting place would be an affront to God. So even centuries after her death, Katherine was still saving lives.
@awkwardvulture638
4 жыл бұрын
I would say that part of her issue was that unlike her mother Isabella Juana was less keen on the idea of defying the standards of female behavior at the time. Juana's father, husband and son are all still responsible for her condition but had she been a little more had strong she might've truly ruled as queen.
@blacktigerpaw1
4 жыл бұрын
@@enriquepascual8767 Spanish women were notorious for their defiance. Isabella of Castile really set the standard on how men were awed by these powerful women.
@enriquepascual8767
4 жыл бұрын
@@blacktigerpaw1, Hi, Isabel Barreto first Almirant woman in history XVI.th, I recall she also discovered with other military men the Turquesas Islands and other ones.
Joanna's children survived because she was not closely related to her husband Phillip I of Habsburg, unlike was awfully common at the time.
@RaulGonzalez-xt1kx
3 жыл бұрын
Eres su primo tercero Juana y Felipe eran familiares en tercer grado
@nenisguevaragomez8122
Жыл бұрын
@@RaulGonzalez-xt1kx pues eso reduce el riesgo de que la descendencia salga con problemas.
@nenisguevaragomez8122
Жыл бұрын
Después de todo en la realeza todos eran Parientes, la cuestión era , ¿En qué grado??
Juana actually was not mad but prisioner by his own father Fernando and later by his own son Carlos. She was learned and well educated, spoke Latin and wrote poetry.
@KL-ki8db
Жыл бұрын
I think she is mentally ill but was probably exaggerated. There is suspicion that she suffers from what now call depression and bipolar disorder.
@yuriyamazaki9094
7 ай бұрын
yes she was one highly intelligent and highly educated woman
Her sister, Catalina de Aragón that became Queen of England was another exceptional woman. The controversial book De Institutione feminae Christianae by Juan Luis Vives, which stated that women have the right to an education, was commissioned by her and dedicated to her. Such was the impression that Catherine caused on the people who, even her enemy Thomas Cromwell, said of her: "If it were not for her sex, she could have challenged all the heroes of history." The queen won a victory with the successful appeal for the lives of the rebels involved in Evil May Day, to those who defended for the sake of their families. Catalina also earned widespread admiration for initiating a broad program for the relief of the poor. The Queen was a patron of Renaissance humanism and friend of the great scholars Erasmus of Rotterdam and Thomas More. The world doesn't know yet how much owes to Spain.
@romeosantos9006
2 жыл бұрын
Among her sisters, Catherine was really the only one who was like the great Isabella. If Joanna had the emotional stability, she too could have become a capable ruler. Definitely, she was tenacious in her own way and here, displayed exceptional wisdom. Perhaps her sons Charles and Ferdinand compensated for her weakness by becoming great rulers like their grandfather Ferdinand and grandmother Isabella.
@KL-ki8db
Жыл бұрын
@@romeosantos9006 I would also say that it didn't help Juana's mental state that Isabella was reported to abuse and put Juana under torture for the reasoning that Juana was questioning the Catholic faith. Catalina was fortunate to be away in England to avoid witnessing that horrific ordeal.
@neilmcbeath954
Жыл бұрын
To this day, Catherine of Aragon is honoured by visitors to her tomb in Peterborough Cathedral.
@astrofabio68
11 ай бұрын
@@KL-ki8db what?????????? Isabella torture her daughter?? What are you saying? When are your sources of that craziness argument. Joanna live all the time , except a couple of months in Castile in Flanders...you are a loyal subscriber to black legend , no doubt!
To be honest I think she was more broken because she was used by so many and her children were taken from her So I feel she was more broken then mad
@Merry19ss
Жыл бұрын
Exacto le quitaron a sus hijos y también murieron algunos ,quien no se quiebra ,más un infeliz de Esposo que la quebró emocionalmente . Juana de Castilla era como su madre la Gran Reina Isabel de Trastamara. Todos pertenecían a la Dinastia Trastamara ❤️
@astrofabio68
11 ай бұрын
@@Merry19ss la única que le "fue quitada " fue Catalina, que ya estaba en edad casadera, a esa edad todos los príncipes o princesas se iban del lado de sus padres. y recordemos que Juana decidió abandonar a Fernando, recién nacido en Castilla, para seguir al pito de su marido a Flandes y luego dejar a Carlos y Leonor con su tía Margarita en Flander para vovler a Castilla , como madre fue un desastre!
Joanna was blessed to have the best bloodline in europe at this time. As the eldest daughter of Queen Isabella. Joanna was sole ruler of the kingdom of Castile. Even her father, ferdinand of Aragon, was not royalty to the castillians. It is Joanna who held the reins of that country. And for that, her father, ferdinand of aragon, her husband, philip of burgundy, and now her son, Charles, kept her prisoner like a bird in a cage. So they can control Castile.
@Lily1127channel
6 жыл бұрын
*Eldest surviving daughter Poor Princess Isabella left too early :/
@TiaReshade
4 жыл бұрын
@@fawadahmedshaikh718 Her sister Isabella AND her daughter Eleanor 🙅🏽♀️
@alondraperez-ramirez8363
4 жыл бұрын
Blessed or cursed? All the wealth she possessed (much of which was taken by her son to pay for the Emperor title) never brought her a moment's happiness. The power of her blood ensured the pivotal male figures in her life used or discarded her to suit their purposes. Better for her to be have been born a stablehand's daughter, tend to the horses and marry an honest man who would love her.
@Lily1127channel
4 жыл бұрын
@@alondraperez-ramirez8363 Stablehands' daughters didn't marry for love either. They married who their fathers told them to, according to their interests (stablehands had their own interests too).
@astrofabio68
4 жыл бұрын
@@Lily1127channel that was common in all the royal houses of Europe, not only Spain..stop spread black legend, Joanna was a Psychotic, period
WOW. the acting is amazing...beautifully done....loved the entire series..5 stars.
Gran escena, la reina Juana delega en su hijo Carlos la gobernanza de los reinos, una sabía pero también dolorosa decisión
@SampyKhe
Жыл бұрын
En la realidad, no en la ficción, Juana siguió siendo la reina titular del reino hasta su muerte. Todos los documentos importantes tenían que seguir llevando su firma, por eso Carlos trasladó la corte a Valladolid, q está al lado de Tordesillas.
@maritzanarvaez5099
Жыл бұрын
Lo más triste es que la abandonaron con esos tiranos que la trataban mal
Watching this after watching your translation of Isabel makes this scene especially sad. Thank you so much for uploading these Lili!
What happened to this woman is one of the biggest atrocities in Spain royals history. To be treated like that by her own husband, her father and grandson. Imprisoned most of her life, her children, her kingdom taken away from her.
@anacasanova7350
Жыл бұрын
Estaba apartada, no encarcelada. Todos los documentos reales de Carlos están firmados como Juana I Reina de Castilla. Era la reina legal hasta los 70 años en que murió.
@nenisguevaragomez8122
Жыл бұрын
@@anacasanova7350murió tres años antes que su hijo.
@santangelogaia19
Жыл бұрын
Her son... Not grandson 😅😅
@cynmori619
3 ай бұрын
Pero se le ve cómo una madre cariñosa , muy a diferencia de una de una reina inglesa que hace poco falleció.
She doesn't seem "mad"
@annstillwell730
4 жыл бұрын
They think she was actually clinically depressed or manic depressive. Few think she was batshit crazy but in the men of her time used madness as an excuse to claim her power.
@johnnotrealname8168
3 жыл бұрын
@@annstillwell730 From what I have read she would not have been able Edit: "to rule alone given the environment and her brief record", she was very intelligent early on but of course the Mental Health problems everyone else mentions, though that would not have been an impediment to her rule as many other competent Monarchs suffered through it. Ultimately it was Edit2: "a" series of unfortunate events, and indeed meddling from her father. There was a crisis in the Kingdom of Castile and her response seems lackluster, though Edit3: "Cisneros" could not even help much. She was also fanatically in love with her husband, the show gets this part right to be honest, which caused some neglect with regard to her children.
@richardsequeirateixeira
3 жыл бұрын
@@annstillwell730 yeah and they also use women’s issues to discredit or portray them as insane. Imagine, postpartum depression is an issue that is well documented, imagine back then.
@annstillwell730
4 ай бұрын
They think she was bipolar but it was convenient for the men in her life to label her mad to take her power. Her father was the worst of the lot. She was locked up along so long that she did go mad at the end especially as they married off Catalina and she was left totally along. The biggest argument against her total madness for me is that they left her youngest daughter with her whom she raised and educated if she were crazy and a danger I doubt they would have done that.
Se le esta dando el valor que España merece pues son sus hijos en América los que estan descubriendo la verdad , la hispanidad crece y crece cada día mas.....viva la hispanidad!
Great! I love all of your uploads from Carlos. Thanks so much.
@Lily1127channel
7 жыл бұрын
You are welcome :) More scenes to come
You're all aware that Charles didn't look very handsome. Right?
@francoisdaureville323
2 жыл бұрын
This guy isnt handsome Either hes average and you think is easy to get somebody with the habsburg chin?? Not very much
All her children taken away from her - Eleanor, Charles, Isabella, Ferdinand, Mary and finally, Catherine. How sad.
@Merry19ss
Жыл бұрын
Se quebró emocionalmente,además que la tacharon como loca ,ella no era loca ella muy inteligente simplemente le quisieron quitar su Imperio
@astrofabio68
11 ай бұрын
@@Merry19ss era como mínimo bipolar...y no le quitaron ningún hijo, en Flandes dejos a Carlos y Leonor para venir con su maridito adorado a Castilla a ser jurada heredera. Luego, cuando Felipe se vuelve a Flandes sin ella, que estaba embarazada de Fernando, hizo hasta lo imposible por irse tras el aún en avanzado estado de gestación,. Se maltrató a sí misma, se expuso al frío , insulto a su madre que quería protegerla en ese momento y que quería que estuviera en Castilla un tiempo aprendiendo a gobernar, lo mismo con su padre, al final parió a Fernando y sin más lo dejo abandonado en Castilla con sus abuelos. Pero de donde sacan que "le arrebataron los hijos, pobre Juanita?" Su única obsesión era el degenerado de su marido. ni sus hijos, ni sus padres, ni sus reinos, nada era para ella más importante que tener sexo con su marido. Fin del drama y la "enfermedad de Juana"
I’ve always wondered, why was Catherine allowed to stay with Joanna? Why wasn’t she raised along with her siblings? I would think that Joanna’s sister in law Margaret of Austria would have sent for the young Catherine at some point. I know I read somewhere that Joanna was allowed to keep Catherine since she was born a few months after Philip’s death.
@Lily1127channel
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is a very interesting question. I always see a contradiction here: if Joanna was really so mentally ill that she had to be deprived of her rights to rule and had to be locked up, why was she allowed to raise a child (a royal princess!) on her own? Why did they allow this child to have to endure being raised in captivity, deprived of her freedom, a royal upbringing, and being locked up with a person who is severely ill mentally? That's such a cruel thing to do to a child. Even if not sending her to Margaret, Catherine could have stayed with her brother Ferdinand in their grandpa's care and grown up together, that would have been such a logical solution. But if Joanna was not so ill and she could safely keep the child with her, why was it necessary in the first place to lock her up?
@scottibrown3274
4 жыл бұрын
Lili1127 I think it’s a question that has answers to it, but we’ll never know which answer is the correct one. Or none of the answers are right and the correct answer is something that will always be a mystery to us.
@Mel16Ish
4 жыл бұрын
A princess who would need to have the proper education due to the obligations she would have to assume as queen of a foreign country. A princess that seems to be forgotten, yes it is way too odd... Unless history it is NOT as it was told. Maybe, she wasn't locked after all... Who Knows?
@Lily1127channel
3 жыл бұрын
@Luna Garcia Not "locked in a tower", for sure. Only locked in a castle, with occasional permission to attend mass in the church next door. Still a captivity, with no chance to get out of that castle permanently, no chance to change your place, no chance to travel anywhere. Not having the freedom to leave your place, to go where you want. That equals captivity.
@Lily1127channel
3 жыл бұрын
@Luna Garcia Yeah, but who said tower? When there is talk about Joanna's captivity, it's always said that she was locked up in the Palace of Tordesillas. Neither tower nor nunnery. I don't understand. What does having children have to do with Joanna's captivity? It was not a choice of either remarrying or retiring, with her choosing retiring. She had 6 children, as you said, 2 boys, all living and healthy, she didn't need more children from a new marriage. Joanna's place was neither in a nunnery/retirement/captivity nor in a new marriage giving birth. Her place was on the throne ruling like her mother, but for certain reasons, that didn't happen. And, if one reads about the circumstances of Joanna's capture and transfer to the Palace of Tordesillas, it seems kinda certain that her captivity was not her own idea and her will.... Her sister Maria did not die while giving birth, she died 6 months after her last childbirth (although possibly of the consequences the births had on her health).
I was born and raised in Central America and more than 500 years we continue using "Vos". Nací y crecí en Centro America y más de 500 años después continuamos usando el "vos".
Esta es la Gran Dinastía TRASTAMARA casa Mayor, Hamburgo Casa menor de la Trastamara ❤️
I always hated how Charles treated Cisneros. He was so prominent in Isabella and Ferdinand's reign and Charles completely snubbed him.
@Lily1127channel
3 жыл бұрын
Well he was also very controversial because of his involvement in the Inquisition, and he was also an enemy of Joanna and played a part in the process that ended her reign and led to her captivity in Tordesillas. What Charles could hear about Cisneros in Flanders from the Flemish and not Ferdinand-fans, maybe not the best things.
@SampyKhe
3 жыл бұрын
Cisneros was responsable, along with Ferdinand of the confinement of Joanna. Neither Ferdinand of Cisneros wanted a foreign king to rule in Spain.
@Lily1127channel
3 жыл бұрын
@@SampyKhe Yeah but in the end Joanna's confinement had nothing to do with a foreign king ruling Spain. They locked her up only after Philip's death, when Joanna should have ruled alone according to the law.
@Lily1127channel
3 жыл бұрын
@Luna Garcia It would have been very complicated to force Joanna into a new marriage without her own consent. Not with her already having heirs and being a queen regnant, even if only nominal. She could say no at the altar and she could refuse to sign the contract if she didn't want the marriage. It was possible for a widowed queen regnant to rule alone, without a husband, it happened before in Spain. If she had a son and heir, it wasn't necessary to remarry. There was absolutely nothing that indicated that the Church or Cisneros or any Spanish lord would force her into a new marriage. Even if she received proposals from others in Europe, the Spanish didn't favour the idea of a remarriage at all. She had no reason to fear that she would be forced to remarry. Elizabeth's case was completely different because her advisors were right in a way, she should have had children and heirs logically, like any monarch should (and because the succession line was a complete mess after her, with unwanted Scots and Catholics and a lot of problems). Neither Ferdinand nor Cisneros wanted Joanna to remarry, bringing another foreigner into the country. Henry VII's envoys tried to reach Joanna after Philip's death to negotiate about a possible marriage between them, but after Ferdinand returned to Spain, he cut it short and refused them or anyone else to approach with marriage idea for Joanna. So, there was no need for Joanna to fear that she could be forced into a new marriage 😀 No, Joanna did not choose her captivity as a lesser evil to having more children. She didn't choose it at all.
@themechanictangerine4337
3 жыл бұрын
@Luna Garcia that would certain discourage any man from trying to court her 🤣
I wish I could get this series w english subtitles! So far I cant
I wish I could see more scenes of this show translated in english
Le quitaron a sus hijos y también murieron algunos ,quien no se quiebra ,más un infeliz de Esposo que la quebró emocionalmente . Juana de Castilla era como su madre la Gran Reina Isabel de Trastamara. Todos pertenecían a la Dinastia Trastamara ❤️
Carlos debió cuide mejor a su madre.
@enriquepascual8767
5 жыл бұрын
Así es, el supo, consintió y ordenó su encierro y total aislamiento, los custodios eran los Marqueses de Denia, creo recordar, auténticos trepas malvados.
He (Charles) didn't learn Spanish until after he'd arrived in Spain!
Acaso Catarina, debería ser más pequeña? ... Sino me equivoco Carlos tenia como 17 y ella era como 5 años ó más pequeña ... Debería ser una niña ó preadolescente
@Lily1127channel
4 жыл бұрын
No. Cuando Carlos tenía 17 ella 10. (Carlos nació en 1500 y Catalina en 1507). Sí la actriz tiene más que 10 años, claro. Ella interpreta Catalina desde 10 hasta 50, ya una viuda y abuela.
why are all the videos of this show blocked?
@Merry19ss
Жыл бұрын
De qué país eres ?
that accent and castellano you like so much is thé spanish spoken by family for 500years as thé Jews who were expelled from Spain !
@tita_piranna
Жыл бұрын
Sí, los djudeoespañoles aún mantienen nuestra lengua tal y como se hablaba en aquel entonces. Es testamento a la historia y un orgullo de este idioma que aún tras siglos de evolución, un judío sefardí y un español puedan entablar conversación con apenas minucias de mala comprensión.
Donde se puede ver la serie completa ????
Do you have a place where your blocked videos can be seen
@Lily1127channel
Жыл бұрын
Yes, actually, I made this Dailymotion link with them: www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x6yg4a
@calliefinck6275
Жыл бұрын
Could you please download the scene where Joanna dies
Juana de castilla*
Omg!!! Merli!!!!
Pobre Juana solo se aprovecharon de ella y los infames marqueses de Denia la maltrataban, Catalina solo se salvo porque carlos la envio a casarse con el rey de Portugal
Juana fue reina hasta su muerte.....Carlos usurpó el trono....
Viva España cojones!
What name of movie?
@Lily1127channel
5 жыл бұрын
Carlos, rey emperador. It's a Spanish TV series.
@brandyh9098
5 жыл бұрын
@@Lily1127channel thanks
Catherine or Mary, her sisters, were so far better qualities to rule, no this obsessed and depressive woman....Catherine live a very hard life also, even she suffer hunger in England after Arthur died Henry VII doesn´t her allow back to Spain and her father doesn´t send money, she lost all their child except Princess Mary, she suffer the same humiliation than Joanna by her husband and worse, because Catherine hasn't real power ...and she never become a psychotic or depressive woman. Joanna can recover her power and freedom when the Comuners rebellion but he choose stay imprisoned , and the castilian men and women who trust in their queen, were betrayed by her, and they lost their heads...yes! an example of a woman, mother and Queen, the mirror of her mother! Stop idealize Joanna
@nenisguevaragomez8122
Жыл бұрын
You sound so harsh and you show no compassion, be careful when you go through a very bad period.
@borealislinnaea
Жыл бұрын
I agree that the other two would have been better as monarchs. But the thing with the Communeros is that Juana did not trust them. She was not in a position to check whether their accusations against her son were true or not. When she resisted their offers, they seemed to intend to use her as a puppet. So she chose the safer option - her family.
@astrofabio68
11 ай бұрын
@@nenisguevaragomez8122 all my life was a bad period, if you don't know me, don’t make an opinion, I suffer abuse of my stepfather, I was abandoned by my mother, no family, my biological father depressive, no uncles or aunts, no grandparents, no home, and I survive fighting against difficulties..... That is Katherine of Aragon did, Joanna just choose to suffer and think in dead
@astrofabio68
11 ай бұрын
@@borealislinnaea sure, if you are the regnant queen can demand a trial, proofs, to make an investigation
@nenisguevaragomez8122
11 ай бұрын
@@astrofabio68 I am sorry , but that's your opinion. I hope your life is getting better and better.
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@melmel.42
6 жыл бұрын
Diana Leon Ortega 😄
@anakarenquirozaguilar5591
5 жыл бұрын
Katina
Yo no me creo que le diera tales consejos. Juana no estaba si estaba en la Tierra o en Venus
@Lily1127channel
3 жыл бұрын
No, en verdad Juana tenía muchos momentos claros y se podía tener conversaciones inteligentes con ella en aquellos momentos. Cómo este momento en la serie. Por esta mezcla de periodos claros y obscuros opinan muchos expertos hoy en día que el problema mental de Juana era bipolaridad.
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Hi mom
Pero en fin sus hijos deja con ella sola.