Trying to weather a minnesota winter with a tarp, sleeping bag, and hammock is suicidal.

@jarrettwalters6632

3 ай бұрын

That’s why I do believe that he wasn’t at that campsite very long. He probably would’ve built a real shelter and everything else I’m assuming.

@Aristos_Achaion

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. And suicide needn't be an explicitly, intentionally carried out act; it can be just looking for trouble while pretending you're not. Unfortunately, rough wilderness can be counted on for lending a hand in such murky cases.

@backwatersandbackroads

3 ай бұрын

I live in Minnesota, it's hard enough surviving a winter in a house, let alone a tarp and hammock

@thebeasters

3 ай бұрын

Yeah the was attacked. A bear

@carolinematusevich889

3 ай бұрын

He probably planned to dig into the hill for the winter, but in the meanwhile, slept inside his sleeping bag, within the hammock. And Ol' Smokey was in hyperphagia, and thought he'd take a nibble in his head. Sleeping out like he did in the Fall within Bear Country was dumb, but he wanted to live dangerously like that.

A few years ago in Saskatchewan, Canada....a man was drug out of his tent at night by a wolf. A neighboring camper heard the struggle and ran over to help. He ran at the wolf and full-force kicked it in the head and it ran off. You can't assume a wolf, cat, bear... isn't going to attack a sleeping person.

@theosiris20011021

3 ай бұрын

Whereabouts?

@gregbellisle9128

2 ай бұрын

​@ChesterNutteri thought the same but dismissed humans killing him. Why wouldnt they take anything, money knives other possessions?

@drd1924

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing this account..I own a few pet wolves and know and respect their abilities....They are very much a Jekyl / Hyde type of animal Seem very shy and cautious at times (and actually I believe this is a well thought out deception of their own to get you to underestimate them and drop your guard) And other times can be so bold you actually have to be prepared to defend your life to the point of death for them to respect you and back off. Now imagine a Wild one not socialized with humans. So many people think Wolves do not hunt attack or eat humans WRONG!

@jonahs4819

2 ай бұрын

@@gregbellisle9128 tbf some disturbed people kill for the sole purpose of killing. Why would a psycho like that take anything if the only thing he/she is craving is the murder itself?

@ghanaboyz

2 ай бұрын

Or just stumbled/fell, hit the head, got back into the hammok to recover some then bleeding out in the hammok. Sometimes the most mundane, ordinary, 'silly' explanation is the true explanation. Stupid things happens and sometimes the result is fatal. We tend to create myseries out of nothing simply because we don't know things for sure, that said, the most likely explanation tends to be the correct one. It is inheritedly dangerous to be out alone in adverse conditions. A gun does not help on freak accidents. Exposure kills and if bleeding out in the hammok effects of exposure accelerate. A freak accidentent may not involve any knifes... a sharp stick or stone in the ground can do the trick fine when putting your body weight on it, and this does not tore up your hammok or clothing. Leaving the hammok to pee, you may not care to put on your boots.

As a guy who shaves with a straight razor I would say killing himself shaving with a knife is a ridiculous theory. To shave you only touch lightly and smooth it across, the worse you would get is a very bad nick on your skin. No way could you rip your jugular without cranking the knife really hard. Straight razors and knives were used for centuries and I have never in history heard of a person kill themselves shaving. On a side note, when whittling wood with a knife, only ever a super sharp knife and use light pressure and push away treating it cautiously as if you EXPECT it to slip. I've seen near misses with people pushing hard on blunt knives trying to get it to cut and thats what causes a catastrophic slip.

@Im_With_Stupid

Ай бұрын

You're not wrong, but if something were to surprise them, let's say a bird flies into the side of their head, while they're shaving their neck I could very easily see them jerking the razor and opening an artery. The problem with the shaving theory to my mind is that cutting an artery is a hell of a bloody mess and the jugular vein in particular has a tendency to literally spray a massive volume of blood for several feet. If this is what happened they wouldn't be finding a little blood here and a little blood there. It would be everywhere and if it happened away from his campsite he'd have never made it back to leave traces of blood there unless it was just a few steps away, which it wouldn't have been because he'd have still been hemorrhaging all over the place and been in no condition to crawl back into his hammock. Plus, his boots were still there.

@nerdjournal

Күн бұрын

Well. You would actually be shocked to know more than a few people have died from shaving. However, it wasn't from cutting their jugular. Also, it was in the times before antibiotics. People have cut themselves and died from infections, and things like tetanus used to be a serious risk. Just an interesting tidbit. It doesn't refute or go against anything you said. I just thought I would insert some things from the strange collection of trivia facts stored in my head. lol

@DamienNeverwinter

Күн бұрын

@@nerdjournal I could definitely believe that. I've been told by several people as well, that a huge number of accidents outdoors involve hatchets being swung too hard. With a two handed axe you have your hands placed well apart on the haft and can control it well if it deflects. However, with hatchets (and machetes) since you only have one hand on the grip a deflection off a tough knot in the wood can fly dangerously astray -for example towards your lower leg

Minnesota is not the place I would choose to “live off the grid” during the friggin winter man.

@nelliesfarm8473

2 ай бұрын

Blood all over everything doesn't equate to freezing to death. Apparently he was an experienced outdoorsman.

@Cycology_Major

2 ай бұрын

@@nelliesfarm8473 Not MN experienced or he would’ve gone back to balmy upstate NY haha

@lizziesangi1602

2 ай бұрын

My sister lives there and moved there from the Catskill Mountains. We love the cold and snow. The winters I was there are different here, NYS. It's a dry cold which makes -25 warmer. At any rate, it's worth going up there in the summer to buy the winter outerwear onsale!

@sunnystormy4973

2 ай бұрын

-in minn here ... !-

@MT-tg4bt

2 ай бұрын

@@Cycology_Major balmy my arse, I've been in the north woods of NY my whole life and I think this last winter is the first I've witnessed when we didn't colder than 20 below zero.

He might have been "an experienced outdoorsman” but just taking off into an area you aren’t familiar with in Minnesota in October with a plan to spend the winter off grid is ridiculously foolhardy.

@deeboo1122

3 ай бұрын

Agreed

@inwyrdn3691

3 ай бұрын

Sadly true. I've lived in Michigan most of my life, and people who are familiar with New York or Pennsylvania are shocked when they decide to try more westward camping - Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, or the Dakotas. Beautiful land in the winter, but it's a lot to deal with, and I've spent my fair share of time camping in it.

@guaporeturns9472

3 ай бұрын

@@inwyrdn3691 I used to do the same thing he did when I lived up in Alaska. You gotta have a plan.. gotta think it through a bit. Dude thought he was gonna spend the winter in a tarp and didn’t even get any firewood put up for the winter? 🤦‍♂️ Absolutely ridiculous

@auntbarbara5576

3 ай бұрын

💯 agree There's more to this guy than we heard. 29 and apparently no job?? Takes off and wanders for weeks & months at a time? Who would do THIS for the winter? And in MN? And yes I saw that vodka bottle laying in his camp several times. This guy had problems.

@guaporeturns9472

3 ай бұрын

@crassgop 9 times out of ten a dude who has a plan will fare better than a dude who takes off with a tarp , a M92 and a bottle of vodka.

I'm his grandmother. At first I didn't think this was a correct account but after hearing the whole thing I realize it was more accurate than I first thought. The "big fot" theory is not likely but the rest of the facts are accurate. Thanks for reporting this.

@NicoleZXO

3 ай бұрын

So sorry for your loss! 🩷 I hate this. Were yall close or in contact when this happened..

@angelinacarl4667

3 ай бұрын

So sorry for your families loss. I hope you have peace. God bless you andcomfort you. Hugs,prayers and heartfelt love and sadness for you all.

@RobinAngell3

3 ай бұрын

I'm sorry for your loss ... May he RIP . ❤

@vettevegas

3 ай бұрын

I think a Mtn Lion got him while sleeping. RIP.

@psywalker7973

3 ай бұрын

Sorry for your loss. R.I.P 😢

I was harassed by a pack of 6-8 wolves for about an hour in August of 2017 on the hustler river about 1 mile south of finger lake. That's roughly 8.5 miles north of where Jordan was. They were spread out in a semi circle around us, 100-200 yards away inside the tree line. It seemed like they were sizing us up. They left us alone once we had a fire going. Where we were is an area seldom traveled due to the difficulty level. Don't believe what people say about wolves, if they feel they have an advantage and they're hungry you have a problem on your hands.

@lonniemonroe2714

2 ай бұрын

During WW1 there was a truce called and the combatants joined forces to eliminate a huge pack of wolves. They were preying on wounded. German & maybe Russian troops before the Lennin coup.

@karenmohoff4850

2 ай бұрын

I feel your beliefs of wolves is the answer, I’m Assuming as he was sleeping.

@shelbyindianajones3226

2 ай бұрын

I love wolves but yeah, predator instinct. I see it in my cats and my husky. Food reigns supreme.

2 ай бұрын

This seems like a real possibility in this case. I don't even trust coyotes in a group of three or more. In 1998, a group of 4-5 coyotes shadowed my group of four deer hunters hiking into our starting position at 4:30 am in southeast Riverside County, CA for over a mile, barking snarling and keeping parallel to us, staying just out of sight. One on four seems like bad odds.

@billofrightsamend4

2 ай бұрын

Why would there be blood splatter in his tent/tarp? Would they gingerly remove his wounded body from his tent while he was going for his gun?

dude falls, smacks his head, sort of autopilots back to the hammock, maybe sleeps for a few, realizes he's bleeding bad and not getting better, tries to make for the car, collapses, dies, gets scavenged. it's fairly common for people with a head injury to try to get to somewhere they can sleep, a bad concussion can kill you that way.

@PavlovsBob

2 ай бұрын

That explanation fits the facts better than any other hypothesis.

@uberente

2 ай бұрын

@@PavlovsBob i've got a half-assed theory that a whole lot of these disappearances are caused by either 1) a head injury causing people to do completely unexpected things, or B) obscured holes in the ground.

@lexxist

2 ай бұрын

i think you’re a genius, this is spot on! i’ve seen what falling and hitting your head so bad you’re concussed/get a TBI does to a person immediately after. they’re absolutely not rational and need someone else to intervene immediately. it’s completely possible he got up in the middle of the night to drink, pee, etc, then hit his head and went back to his hammock. i imagine it’s a lot easier to get disoriented in the dark

@coltonmason8290

2 ай бұрын

The one issue with this theory is the blood spatter in the tent. Head injuries bleed pools but they don't spurt out blood like arterial spray. If it weren't for that one piece of evidence I'd agree with your theory.

@uberente

2 ай бұрын

@@coltonmason8290 a seizure in a pool of blood could account for splatter. also this splatter isn't really shown, so are we talking spray type stuff or just drops and smears from moving around in the tent? tough to say..

"I'm not homeless... I have a home. I just choose to have it outside." RIP Legend

@NP-xx8nt

3 ай бұрын

Nah that’s homeless.

@StalkedHuman

3 ай бұрын

Thats denial. He was homeless and died from shaving

@TheOttomann64

3 ай бұрын

I do the same, I sleep outdoors when the weather makes it possible. I live on a small island in Denmark, cold as f_ck...me and my dog sleep outside on the beach every summer. Outdoor life is great!!!

@penclaw

3 ай бұрын

​​​​@@TheOttomann64 beautiful summer coming, soon i will be homeless too.. can't stand living with anyone.

@bendy6626

3 ай бұрын

Well, he had a truck. If he wanted a shelter, he could have stayed there. So, it looks more like he just preferred camping. Even so, a nylon tent in MN doesn't seem like such a good idea.

Theory ! He slipped-Fell down-cracked his head hard-got severely concussed-bled while he tried to rest/recover.

@chickadee-

3 ай бұрын

Very plausible. I wonder why they didn't bring in the cadaver dogs at the very beginning? Could have provided a lot of answers....

@traceyaneefication

3 ай бұрын

definitely plausible

@randyp9491

3 ай бұрын

the bob saget theory

@Flanneryschickens

3 ай бұрын

Head wounds do bleed a lot so that would make sense

@bradhurd6097

3 ай бұрын

I agree, when I saw the Vodka bottle I knew for sure, been there done that. That stuff can take your life even in your sleep, even without a hit to the head.

I grew up in northern Minnesota and have gone winter camping many times, I can’t imagine doing it for more than a couple nights. The weather can be brutal, sub zero temperatures and lots of snow and wind.

@scottlanghorst1483

2 ай бұрын

How cold is it usually on October 9th?

@sunnystormy4973

2 ай бұрын

-minn here ... !-

@msgottaneedtoknow

2 ай бұрын

@@scottlanghorst1483 It is wet and windy in October here. It can get to below freezing in rare cases. But the wetness is what can do you in, regardless of the temperature. Most common is about 40° (Fahrenheit) to 55°. Sometimes much warmer or colder.

@northernsurvivalbackcountr4986

Ай бұрын

Especially in a tarp you cud do it but wud need a good shelter to survive winter

@corvusduluth

Ай бұрын

"Hot Tent", camp sheltered from prevailing wind.

It was a pleasure to hear how balanced and careful you presented this case. Thoughtfully done, and credible.

@mirrorblue100

2 ай бұрын

Well said.

Something else that stands out to me is that an experienced hiker would park his vehicle in front of a private gate when a parking lot for the trail he is camped near is only a little ways away

@audreymuzingo933

3 ай бұрын

My guess is that was not where he intended to leave it for the whole winter, but he knew he'd need to make multiple trips to carry all his stuff to the campsite, so he left it as close as he could possibly drive, with the intention of getting those garbage bags of stuff, then moving the truck to the parking lot, but he figured he could leave it at the gate for one night, but that was the night he ended up dying. What I find REALLY strange is that nobody opened up his truck to see what was in there all those months that he was missing before his bloody campsite was finally found.

@Aristos_Achaion

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. Did this guy really want to get out of that wilderness ever again? Not so sure.

@josephvanwie6706

3 ай бұрын

But if there were human involvement, his belongings would have been taken. He sent his family a pic of the Beaver dam, so why didn't he call 911? And a predator would have torn the camp up a bit at least. Plus no blood on his knives. Weird!

@scorbunny7737

3 ай бұрын

​@@josephvanwie6706his phone could have been out of his reach or maybe he had no cell service because of how remote his campsite was.

@alphooey

3 ай бұрын

For anyone who has lived or spent any time in country/rural areas, bocking a gate/access area is either a dick move. or something was happening - no idea what

The saddest thing is that Jordan who already experienced challenges in his own life will never go back to his family . Hope there is safe wilderness in Heaven for you Jordan 🤗✨

@williamneal7210

3 ай бұрын

Totally agreed...he was obviously loved by his family and I am sure he is sorely missed.

@nickboogs7330

3 ай бұрын

the cryptid theory is the one I believe.the cut shaveing idea,and wolf death is rediculous.if he died soon after makeing camp,wolves just don't appear.it would have been more likely that a cryptid,yes cryptid took Jordan out.they are real,they are territorial,and yes they would be able to end a man sleeping in a few seconds.the logical and simple reason for his death is sasquatch.that is my belief.terrifying as it might seem to be.no animal could kill a man sleeping,and be able to take him out while sleeping so easily.grizzlies are not in minnesota.a black bear would not do it.plus they're not sizeable enough to take Jordan out while sleeping.to me the truth is easily seen.the sooner man excepts that cryptids are a big factor in suspicious deaths in the wild,the safer man can be when in the wild.a theory that would be excepted if the powers to be would tell us cryptids are real.haveing seen a sasquatch,I know what does go bump in the night.REST IN PIECE JORDAN.

I don't think it was a robbery. Rob him, then leave behind a gun, cash, a cellphone and those knives? More likely a animal attack.

Experienced in camping in New Mexico and in winter camping are two entirely different things.

@XxFusionsk8rxX

2 ай бұрын

Coming from the Appalachian Mtns and now living out west the past 4 years. I can't agree more

@_DB.COOPER

2 ай бұрын

Mountains in New Mexico get every bit as cold as those he was camping in. New Mexico has blizzards and people get snowed in every year! Smh…

@XxFusionsk8rxX

2 ай бұрын

@@_DB.COOPER I lived in Las Cruces the Organs had snow caps but that's it that far south, but I could see Santa Fe and such getting good snowfall for sure

@_DB.COOPER

2 ай бұрын

@@XxFusionsk8rxX Sierra Blanca, over 12,000 feet? Ski Resort? Alamogordo on occasion gets enough snow, cold and ice to close HWY 54 south all the way to El Paso! The Sacramentos where Cloudcroft is located has a ski resort also and gets feet of snow!

@XxFusionsk8rxX

2 ай бұрын

@_DB.COOPER occasionally but I've been in El paso for the past 2 years and Las Cruces 2 years before that, last I saw snow was that snow/ice storm that hit here. Deming got like 2-3inchs and Amarillo was frozen over which was pretty wild to see.

My Condolences to his family from the West of Ireland ❤

@dtaylor10chuckufarle

3 ай бұрын

☘

@keithmccaslyn2527

3 ай бұрын

Exactly !! Thank you,across the pond, possible relative:-) Agreed. Condolences!!

@dtaylor10chuckufarle

3 ай бұрын

@@keithmccaslyn2527 We Irishman are all around the world. Éire go Brách ☘

@hellooutthere8956

3 ай бұрын

How kind of you.

@davedriscoll1652

3 ай бұрын

God bless you and yours too, from iowa, i used to live in northern minnesota, in iowa for now.

I live within 80 miles of where Jordan went missing and the downplay of this case is extensive in the news. I learned more in the first 5 mins than in the past few years.

It’s astonishing what law enforcement and investigators leave up to the public to figure out. DIY investigations.

It's amazing that bears weren't mentioned once. We've spent a lot of time in the Boundary Waters and Quetico on the Canadian side and we ran into bears very often. Many times they would come into our camps at night. Also, any experienced outdoorsman knows that you don't keep food near your tent. You hang it to a tree branch. Everyone does that in bear country but this guy apparently kept food in his tent which is incredibly dumb. The first and most obvious thing that came to my mind was a bear but bears weren't mentioned once. The Boundary Waters is bear country! And, most ridiculous of all was the mention of bigfoot. That's insane.

That campsite doesn’t correlate with a history of ‘10 years living in the wilderness.’

@imxploring

3 ай бұрын

Yeah.... looks more like a homeless camp of a junkie in my experience unfortunately.

@chadfontaine2717

3 ай бұрын

It looked to me to be something you'd setup initially while the permeant camp was going to be built. I think his mom is right. Whatever went bad happened very soon after him getting out there.

@elizabethredding272

3 ай бұрын

Mayb he was killed the first nite or so

@Skelstoolbox

3 ай бұрын

it kinda does correlate with "10 years wilderness experience", as a back country bowhunter, I saw a ton of expensive gear there. And with correct, deep cold weather gear, he could have been fine. Maybe not for an entire winter with just those supplies, but like he said, it was october and he probably would have made weekly trips to a store.

@KWAHU93

3 ай бұрын

U know nothing rome wasn’t built in a day

Ive come across a moose that was brought down by wolves in winter. It was incredibly messy and obviously a brutal struggle because the evidence was fresh all over the snow. You could practically depict the event. I can’t imagine the tarp even surviving a wolf pack attack.

@RussellBond-dy5dl

3 ай бұрын

Not to mention the fact that there has never been a verified attack on a human by wolf's in the United States or Canada. If a animal got him it was probably a black bear and it was probably a scavenging not a predation.

@charlesblithfield6182

3 ай бұрын

@@RussellBond-dy5dl there is one death I know about personally. Over 20 years ago there was a pack of wolves in a, I think 15 hectare, fenced enclosure in the Haliburton forest here in Ontario. A new worker there entered the enclosure and was attacked and killed by the pack. This was an unnatural situation for the wolves and the actions taken by the worker probably accounts for the event.

@RussellBond-dy5dl

3 ай бұрын

@@charlesblithfield6182 Those were not wild wolf's they were in a (sanctuary) and had been around humans so much that they lost their natural fear of humans. I've lived in Alaska for 52 years and we have the largest population of wolf's outside of Siberia and no , that's not one death has been attributed to a wolf attack. I have a homestead on the Yukon river and see packs of 20 to 50 running the river ice during the winter.

@charlesblithfield6182

3 ай бұрын

@@RussellBond-dy5dl that’s what I was trying to say. This unfortunate event happened because the wolves were in an unnatural situation. I hope someone doesn’t try to repeat the idea.

@CrazyyinRed

3 ай бұрын

Wow im so jealous, would love to live there and see all that beauty out my front door. Living the dream. Well my dream anyway lol

Something with intelligence waited and snuck into that tent. Caught him completely unaware, attacked him while he slept and dragged him out. Very tragic. Thoughts and prayers for him and his family.

@sejj01

3 күн бұрын

Sounds like a cat

Rough camping through winter in the North Carolina Mountains is absolutely brutal…so I can only imagine how hard it would be in northern Minnesota.

I live in Minnesota. Family has a cabin in the boundary waters and I tell you if you don’t know what you’re doing you can get in trouble. So many bears, Moose, wolves and cats. Never go up there without a gun. At night you can’t see your hand in front of your face. You sure the hell don’t sleep in the winter out there with animals that are very hungry. Beautiful place!

@unexplainedwearenotalone3537

3 ай бұрын

hey man i feel you but the gun not always help you dont put you extings hand on gun there many many things live there gun is not hope help you why people think the only way stop anyone is gun so please dont be ignorance live only way gun home there live creatures entity what is gun help you there many story of witches or creature of dark forest many dont know the earth no need play or write you all know is not what you think earth is mysterious live many things around us just be open eyes mind and prepare with many things not only gun if you go step do on woods forest remember if is something faster of you the gun you cant do nothing is very slow some things attack behind or any other dark force gun is not hope my point is for all people before you do or go forest be rdy and use all what you can most is high flashlight sec spray pepper and many others taser and traps signals sound if someone walk around your area or spot.

@crazysilly2914

3 ай бұрын

maybe it was a bear attack? but a bear would have made an even bigger mess then wolves wold...

@thorsnightmare1123

3 ай бұрын

Okay man, I’m a MN guy myself. Been to the BWCA countless times. And I do carry up there fyi. But your description focuses on the animals which in my opinion is a bit over exaggerated.

@thorsnightmare1123

3 ай бұрын

Hungry animals in the winter. Cmon man, you make it sound like these animals are ravenous. Many go up there including families with small children and have zero issues with what you described. The elements are more to be taken seriously, but that’s anywhere remote.

@lagodifuoco313

3 ай бұрын

​@@crazysilly2914 than*

As a Wisconsin resident, a guy from New Mexico decides he's gonna live in the boonies basically on the the Canadian border is ill advised. Literally middle of nowhere

@scottmiller6270

3 ай бұрын

Yepper!

@ereegodofeternity9451

3 ай бұрын

Yeah just totally different climates

@thebeast9606

3 ай бұрын

​@thetruthful9480 Minnesota (my home state) ranks 3rd for coldest states (three Minnesota cities rankin the top 10 for coldest cities), NY ranks 13th. It can edge us out in terms of total snow fall, but our overall winters are much worse. If your point was he probably thought since he's faced "similar" weather, he'd be fine, and I'd agree with that line of thinking.

@SasquatchNinja

3 ай бұрын

Exactly what I thought. MN resident here. . . Coming from NM would be like transporting to a different world

@saucejohnson9862

3 ай бұрын

For real, the BWCA is so desolate, you're on your own if anything happens.

If you set out to survive a Minnesota winter in the woods all alone, you go in knowing there's a 50% chance you won't be coming back out.

Another viewer pointed out something I think is the best postulation on his death. He most likely slipped or tripped on something and busted his head open while also giving himself a concussion. He then decided to lay down in his hammock for a while and rest, waking up in a pool of his own blood. He decided he must try to get to his truck but was so out of sorts that he forgot his boots. He either slipped near the site or became severly light headed and passed out in the cold weather, dying of exposure or hypothermia. His life remains are found later and scavenged by wolves, which is indicated by the scat and paw prints. This explains why no knives were bloodied and his pistol unfired as he was not attacked so didn't mount any sort of defense. This also explains why his hammock and his shelter were still in good condition instead of ripped apart by animals. There is no way a pack of wolves gets a grown man out of a hammock without destroying it. No animal can. It would require three or four adult men to move a dead body out of a hammock and all of them, cougar, wolf, bear and human would require the tarp be torn or cut in order to lift him out of that hammock as it of the make with the formed sides and back rest so it doesn't flip or roll over.

@bergeracvandamme

2 ай бұрын

What about the blood spatter, though? Blood only spatters when it's fresh and is hit with a high velocity impact.

@Mart7155

2 ай бұрын

Y que tal si le dieron un impacto con un objeto desde afuera de la tienda? El confundido se paro salio hacia afuera quizás cayó y perdió el conocimiento y luego pudo morir por hipotermia.. ahora no sé quien podría haberle dado un golpe desde afuera, total las tiendas son flexibles, no necesariamente tienen que romperse si golpeas desde afuera. Pero quien o que podría haberlo golpeado, no lo sé.

@robertfegan6773

Ай бұрын

Racoon attack and it went for the throat. He backed up panicking and tripped over his boots and gun. Mr Racoon then clawed his eyeballs leaving him being.. Seriously this was a predator male bear attack that while he was sleeping. Unfortunately they will eat you alive then drag the main torso to feed in peace or cover up for later

@randyphillips6506

Ай бұрын

⁠​⁠@@bergeracvandammeWhoah okay dexter

There's 2 critters people are forgetting that run around them woods. Bobcats and bears. Potentially cougars too. I'd lean more towards a cat. It's getting to be winter, they get hungry and smell food. They see him sleeping in the hammock, go into the lean to, bite him on the neck and drag him away. Happens in Africa with lions. Explains the blood, neck was pierced and he sprayed blood from an artietal bleed.

@ohnonotagain8935

3 ай бұрын

I was thinking bear or lion(puma/cougar/mt lion) bit his face or head while he was sleeping and ended him quick.

@mikehunt4797

3 ай бұрын

Bobcats r like 30 pounds. 😂 what you smoking?

@buckberthod5007

3 ай бұрын

@mikehunt4797 So you're going to give bobcat a hug because it's only 30lbs? Granted bobcat is a little improbable, why I lean more towards cougar, but not impossible. The details with his attack are more constant with a Cat attack

@mikehunt4797

3 ай бұрын

@buckberthod5007 wouldn't have to worry it would run as soon as it saw a human. I live in the bushes of Canada seen many bear,bobcat,coyote,moose,cougar,lynx. They all literally want nothing to do with humans especially tiny bobcats. You must live in the city. Did a cougar get him? Very possible but if he had a handgun he could of easily killed it even a knife would do the job. If it got him in his sleep then so be it. I would never camp in thr woods in his shltty set up. He had zero protection from predators while he slept. He should of set up tripwire s around his camp for night security.

@buckberthod5007

3 ай бұрын

@mikehunt4797 Ever hear the term assumptions make an a$$ out of you and me? I've spent near 30 years living in the Ozark Mts in Arkansas, I've been camping in the Rockys for weeks on end, the Smokeys, Appalachia etc. I've seen starving bobcats go after 300lbs hogs and take them down. I've had bobcats tail me through the woods. It ain't common, but it does happen. Just because they're small statute don't mean they ain't deadly. Also you must not have watched the video because he had a 9mm Berreta in the hammock next to him, with spare mags, and had 7 knives in the truck plus a couple on him. He was a knife aficionado. Which hence why again leads me to believe a cat might have been involved. They're sneaky animals. I've been stalked by a cougar once in my life (the 4legged kind) and I didn't even know she was behind till she jumped onto the trail from 15 yards away. I sent 2 .357s over its head and it took off. The 3rd would have been between its eyes. Cats ain't nothing to screw with. Out in nature we ain't shit to em but food

I once held my machete between my arm and side and when i bent down it slid and cut my arm open in a 3 inch gash which exposed tissue and a vein , if that had been an artery and i sliced it open that would have been very bad .

@therealturtleton

3 ай бұрын

@crassgop lol same here ..I'm gonna get hurt regardless so I take steps to minimize it

@highdesertsun3154

3 ай бұрын

My uncle was gutting an elk and slipped the knife between the bones in his forearm. Thank goodness all my uncles hunted together.

@Shastavalleyoutdoorsman

3 ай бұрын

I honestly dislike machetes because they are very easy to injure yourself with. Very few things you couldn't do with a mora and a saw. I do love Kukris. But even those take a ton of practice.

@therealturtleton

3 ай бұрын

@@Shastavalleyoutdoorsman they are wicked dangerous but work so well to clear brush while bushwacking

@therealturtleton

3 ай бұрын

@@highdesertsun3154 😬yikes

There's plenty of mountain lions and bears to blame.

Touque covered in blood, tarp (A frame of "house) has blood spatter, (from a velocity blow) pillow has blood on it , sleeping bag has blood on / it it = head injury incurred while sleeping. Boots off = bedtime. Pants not covered in blood means no femoral artery was cut, plus the femoral artery is DEEP in the leg. A little whittling knife (found in the truck, not in the tent) would not cut the femoral artery unless driven in, but again, it was in the truck! No signs of blood. Facial arteries would not cause a person to bleed out if any pressure was put on them after being cut, but again, knives were in the truck, not the tent, so no shaving took place. Wolves do not cause blood SPATTER. Wolves cause blood streaks, drops, or small pools as the person lays bleeding out, yes, but SPATTER means velocity like a bat, gun, or other forceful strike. No time for Jordan to use the gun he had means someone/ something was able to get close, end him quickly, without a struggle and with a lot of force, due to blood spatter. This is MURDER, whether by sasquatch or human. (Although the human did not take a phone, gopro, or money, perhaps they just felt territorially threatened by having another male in the area). Cops need to re-open this case and actually investigate it. Get a forensic anthropologist in there to look at markings on bones (teeth marks vs knife marks, for example) and get a blood spatter analyst to look at the A framed tarp.

@chrislong2204

2 ай бұрын

And test for touch dna on his bedding and clothing, particularly his watch cap.

@topoint

2 ай бұрын

Where is the hair, teeth, scull and finger/toe nails. They only found bones. If I was family Id be up there collecting any evidence I could. Forensics has failed on this investigation.

@pirrracy

2 ай бұрын

You wasted a lot of time for such drivel.

@deloreslopez1212

2 ай бұрын

I agree with you

@forrest8976

2 ай бұрын

@@pirrracyI don’t see a waste of time with this information that this intelligent individual has offered. “Drivel”? A human being showing concern for another is what I sense. If this was an attack by another human being the authorities would have likely been able to locate prints of either animal or bi pedal. I agree there was blunt force trauma to the head. His body was then predated on by the animals that live in the area. Attacked by a human? I don’t imagine another human would be in the area, although possible. Sasquatch are extremely territorial. They remain elusive for good reason. Encroaching into their territory has screamed danger in many cases of encounters through time. A rock or a large blunt piece of wood could have been used by the Forest people in this case.

Those Jack Links commercials were a warning. Don't mess with Sasquatch.

@shirk_slayer

3 ай бұрын

In the whirlwind of life's chaotic parade, Where shadows lurk and mayhem is displayed, Each twisted tale whispers havoc, oh what a sight, In the realm of tumultuous wonders, where the wild takes flight. In the icy grip of the heart's savage dance, Find solace in chaos, give fury a chance. For greatness fades in love's dark tune, Where moonbeams hide and stars cower 'neath the moon. As time's clock goes tickety-tock, amidst the frenzied spree, It's not the numbers that rampage, but the frenzied glee. With each strike, each blow, life's frenzy finds its way, In each nonsensical clash, oh how we sway! Amidst the furious madness, where rage leaps and bounds, Stand tall in the tumultuous chorus, where the untamed resounds. For within the frenzied whirl, where fury rages and prance, Lies the wisdom of chaos, in the wild's frantic dance. In the whisper of shadows, where fears falter and fade, Remember, dear friend, it's the frenzy that leads the parade. For fear holds no sway when we revel in the fight, And darkness flees before the gleam of the untamed light. With every stumble upon the path of frenzy's sway, A journey unfolds, where tumult holds sway. In the bumbling of barbarians, in the warriors' savage show, Embrace chaos anew, and let the wilderness flow. In the depths of destruction, where shadows sway and sway, Only the bold can rampage, oh what a display! For in life's grand design, where the wild roams, Lies the furious frenzy of existence, where chaos looms. Within the halls of havoc, where chaos hollers and cheer, The tapestry of mayhem is woven, oh so clear. In the land of tumult, where the primal rules supreme, Resides the promise of chaos, in each tumultuous dream. Through chaos and calamity, amidst the frenzied throng, Success is but a whisper, failure a discordant song. It is the fury to the frenzy, the rage to sublime, That shapes our chaotic journey, in the untamed's prime. In a world of wrath and warfare, where the wild holds sway, To remain steadfastly frenzied is the grandest display. In a realm where mayhem seeks to dance, oh what a sight, The greatest triumph lies in the untamed's fierce fight. In life's grand doodle, where ferocity is the norm, The true essence of existence begins to form. In the relentless rampage of the chaotic riff, Where the untamed leaps and whirls, there lies life's true gift.

@patrickwatrin5093

3 ай бұрын

Wow that's awesome

@patrickwatrin5093

3 ай бұрын

Is it your poem?

@shirk_slayer

3 ай бұрын

@patrickwatrin5093 yeah, do you like it. I don't know why I just got inspired and this was the closest place to type while watching the video. Lol

@toweypat

3 ай бұрын

Seriously. Don't mess with any large wild animal.

My guess is that he injured himself somehow and was bleeding on the hammock, clothes, etc. He died from blood loss. Various animals scavenged the remains, scattering the bones. It's a mysterious case, but that's because the wild animals destroyed the evidence. All that's left is some bones and bone fragments.

@boardskins

3 ай бұрын

The most possible conclusion

@jorgefloyd6989

3 ай бұрын

I am so glad you're not a detective. Case close.😂

@DougShoeBushcraft

3 ай бұрын

@@jorgefloyd6989 huh?

@TheDoctorofOdoIsland

3 ай бұрын

The idea that injured himself outside of his hammock, took off his boots and climbed back into the hammock, then died of blood loss and was pulled out of the hammock and eaten by scavengers makes no sense for the same reason the idea that he was attacked by wolves in his sleep doesn't make any sense- they would have torn the hammock down trying to get at the body. The only plausible sequence of events is that something happened to him while he was sleeping that caused him to bleed inside the hammock, then he voluntarily got out of the hammock, left his boots behind (either in a panic or because he was compelled to leave them) and walked away from the tent before dying.

@DougShoeBushcraft

3 ай бұрын

@@TheDoctorofOdoIsland I disagree. Bleeding to death could have been a lengthy process- Hours or even days. He could have thought that he had stopped the bleeding, didn't feel well, and laid in the hammock for a while. Then he could have noticed that he was bleeding again, and got out of the hammock in order to cut more bandage strips, etc.

I see your starting to get recognition! It's about time, I've been watching this channel for a long time.

Another well presented video, this is definitely the best channel for the most information on all these types of cases.

Your delivery is like a young Rod Serling. Well done and Bravo! May this young man RIP

Another great Saturday with Missing Enigma

@betzybrethour334

3 ай бұрын

I know my favourite KZreadr

Excellent work ; thanks for sharing

I was in college in Minneapolis the spring semester of 2019. Out of the 5 years I lived on and off in MN, those were probably the coldest and most treacherous winter months I experienced. I remember that February getting minor frostbite in my fingers just by going out to start my car without gloves and not being able to. My fingers turned blue and the outer layer of skin peeled off by the next morning. It was probably -40 with the windchill. Nature is rough up there, especially in the wintertime.

@Cycology_Major

2 ай бұрын

The “wintertime” is like 8 months long 🥶

Could he not have perhaps got a head injury, a fall or a branch collapse. That caused him to bleed and gave him concussion and lie down and somehow expire from it.

@highdesertsun3154

3 ай бұрын

I was thinking this too

@Ron4885

3 ай бұрын

@@highdesertsun3154 As was I. It seems a reasonable event.

@Aristos_Achaion

3 ай бұрын

The bottle of booze that appears in the pics--not sure if empty or full--could have definitely helped with that.

@josephvanwie6706

3 ай бұрын

You would think that a branch heavy enough to hit his head and cause bleeding and concussion would show evidence in his cap. Plus, he wasn't wearing his boots so he wouldn't be walking around to get hit.

@polkadots716

3 ай бұрын

@@josephvanwie6706 Maybe he put the cap on after suffering a head injury to help staunch the bleeding; he later went to bed, but the smell of blood attracted predators. He may have heard the animal(s) approaching and got up to get his gun when he was attacked.

Knives are used for 1000s of things other than whittling and shaving. He could have been cutting a rope to hang the hammock or tarp, for example.

@hildahilpert5018

3 ай бұрын

Oh that,s true.Cut myself at girl scout camp once.I was sawing some wood, forgot why think we were making something.Oh it bled, but I have all fingers.Could have been attacked by a bear or other animal.

@Laura-Kitty

3 ай бұрын

A photo from the scene had shown a huge jug of vodka that was nearly empty, so possibly he'd drank too much while using a razor-sharp hunting knife. Booze & knife use wouldn't be the safest combo.

@DougShoeBushcraft

3 ай бұрын

@@Laura-Kitty Yes. Very good point. A half gallon of vodka doesn't mix will with sharp tools and a gun. I tell people not to bring alcohol into the woods (hiking, remote camping etc) and especially if you are alone.

@tillitsdone

3 ай бұрын

@@Laura-Kitty That was rotgut vodka, so we know Bigfoot didn't drink it.

@cdd4248

3 ай бұрын

​@@tillitsdoneLOL! With no disrespect meant to the seriousness of the case - that was the first thought I had too when I saw the vodka. I thought, ugh that is awful Vodka! LOL

Thank you for posting this video! This was well presented and very helpful to us outdoors enthusiasts. The points you made are of the utmost importance when spending time in remote areas. I also appreciate the respectful way you were mindful of this man’s family and friend’s feelings regarding this case.

Found your channel through Lore Lodge, subbed good stuff.

Suppose he gets up to take a piss. He trips, hitting his head very hard on a tree or rock. This can be very devastating...as a trauma nurse I've seen the results of this many times. He could easily have had both external and internal bleeding, against his brain (called a subdural hematoma, or SDH). He might have got back in his hammock, but he would then becoming increasingly confused and uncomfortable. And at that point, he could have done anything. But most likely, got up, staggered around, and then died either from the SDH itself or exposure. Either that, or Bigfoot heard that ukelele and said OH HELL NO

@MikesFitnessGoals

3 ай бұрын

Somewhere in northern Minnesota there’s a bigfoot who can’t get Camptown Races out of his simian head. 🤣

@paulderksen5852

2 ай бұрын

It's really not funny at all to joke about this kinda thing, think if it was your loved one who this happened too, like grow tf up 😡🤬🤔🙄😕

@543Molly

2 ай бұрын

This comment is SO heartless and tacky. YOU’RE a nurse? WOW. I guess compassion wasn’t a prerequisite huh?

I hate waiting for the next video to come out, but oh boy is it worth it. This channel is a gem. Thank you 🙏

Just because the chances of a wolf attack are low is no reason to dismiss the possibility.

I live in Minnesota and have winter camped in a tent multiple times. I would never attempt that with the gear he had. RIP

Another very interesting video. These mysteries are as intoxicating as they are heartbreaking and I respect the way that you go about telling their stories. The Missing Enigma separates itself from the crowd through professionalism, due diligence and sincerity, not to mention skipping all of the self-promotion that other channels seem to hold as a top priority. Hats off to you. Fan for life.

"It was that damn samsquanch!" - Bubbles.

@abundantYOUniverse

3 ай бұрын

My cats!

@carcosa_swamp

3 ай бұрын

those hairy bastards are lurking everywhere

@amarshmuseconcepta6197

3 ай бұрын

😆

@andrewstevenson118

3 ай бұрын

It's not rocket appliance to know that. What comes around is all around.

@AmericanMephistopheles

3 ай бұрын

Bigfoot is real and he stole my catalytic converter.

I like your delivery of the facts. Good job. I do hope that something will show up to reveal what happened to poor Jordan. 😢

DOGMAN, A squatch didn't do this.

@juliusb790

Ай бұрын

thats my thought possibly the warewolf type. thought comes due to the downplay

RIP Jordan Grider. You died living, instead of living, dying.

@benjalucian1515

3 ай бұрын

Where did he get the money for his truck and provisioning himself if he wasn't working? I'm all for people living off the grid, but not when they're mooching off others.

@thing_under_the_stairs

3 ай бұрын

@@benjalucian1515 Some people have generous and caring families who understand when one of their kids doesn't fit the mold and can't do the expected grind. It seems like his family understood him and his needs.

@bklmsoul

3 ай бұрын

@@thing_under_the_stairs Well said

@annmcclure8378

3 ай бұрын

@@benjalucian1515 I agree with you, but we don't know that, do we? Awfully quick to judge someone, imo. Maybe it was an old truck, he inherited money, who knows?

@benjalucian1515

3 ай бұрын

@@annmcclure8378 Be interested to find out. Even inheriting a truck still means you need income to maintain it and keep it street legal.

Loved this style of show, bro!!!! Straight to the case. No raints. Strictly facts of the case. Keep it up bro love the channel.

This is a really sad story, but also very informative of why it’s always good to be prepared. You can never have a catalog of too much information and no information is ever really useless when it comes to backpacking hiking surviving in the wild.

Bears are pretty outdoorsy also, and the one thing they do in October is eat everything they can find before they hibernate…

the last time I was this early, I was headless in the nahani valley 💀

@chimpgaming8290

3 ай бұрын

Omg vulpes

@villagelightsmith4375

3 ай бұрын

R.M.Patterson wrote a good story. [The Dangerous River] The book "Paradise Below Zero" is another good read. As is "The Beast In The Garden," a study of the interaction of people and Mt Lions in Boulder Colorado. "The Lions of Tsavo" is a no holds barred, clear eyed view from Africa.

@jp6614

2 ай бұрын

Any gold like the Watson Brothers found?

"Took a ukulele with him..." oh yeah...Bigfoot got 'im. Bigfoot: Throws his newspaper across his living room- "What the h is that NOISE !"

@frankthetank8050

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂👌🏾 :”Get that African sht out of my haunted forest!!”

@Master...deBater

3 ай бұрын

Yeah... there's a reason Bigfoot doesn't live in Hawaii!!!

@jacs196405

3 ай бұрын

@@Master...deBaterthy do now! Reports are there also!

@nyc9993

3 ай бұрын

​@@whitedevil1349 Bigfoot said than grab your 🎸 guitar and starta travelin........

@daninuesca3801

3 ай бұрын

​@@jacs196405I live on Maui.. wth?.

This case is always intrigued me. Much like Mr Grider, I've spent the past 10 years living in the woods, (in hammocks identical to his setup) but always stay within earshot of a road. Never go too deep into any woods, stay on the periphery of a town or city. This guy had everything he needed, and was very well experienced, do not think you can outmaneuver the depths and unknowns of the woods.

I don't see how they thought him having so few supplies was shocking. I mean his truck was relatively near by

I live near the BWCA. It’s a national treasure imo. It’s very remote and dark as dark at night and can be extremely inhospitable in the winter, even for animals who are accustomed to the terrain. I would not go inside the BWCA without a guide or someone who is very experienced in navigating the area. I think he was attacked by a group of animals.

@sf9145

3 ай бұрын

Agreed.

@jarjarbooty600

3 ай бұрын

Exactly. I’m still an amateur woodsmen and my fourth ever trip was there. I was with my friend but it was nothing I was prepared for. It was also in October and it got very cold and dark. Everything has a super familiar look so very easy to get lost.

@bruderschweigen6889

3 ай бұрын

Unless he was attacked by a wolf fought it off went back to his tent took off his boots and laid in the hammock to die. I don't think that's very likely and other than wolves what group of animals would kill a grown man who was armed? I think the accidental injury makes fad more sense knowing he was to remote to get help he went to die in his tent then scavenged by animals.

@jarjarbooty600

3 ай бұрын

@@bruderschweigen6889 I mean if he was attacked under that tarp and in the hammock it would be destroyed and there’s not a mark on it.

@jarjarbooty600

3 ай бұрын

@@bruderschweigen6889 sorry I just re read what you said lol. I agree with you.

"It certainly gives me interesting material for a video title." You never disappoint.

@glamdolly30

3 ай бұрын

Otherwise known as 'clickbait'!

@klospike

3 ай бұрын

Hello Karmafrog :-) I loved watching your videos about the lost hikers! I hope you have a good life! By!

@frankvilla9401

3 ай бұрын

pleasantly surprised to see you here! love the beach boy vids!

@karmafrog1

3 ай бұрын

@@klospike Aw thank you!!!!! My life is pretty interesting, thanks!

@karmafrog1

3 ай бұрын

@@frankvilla9401 Wow thank you! Nick graciously helped on one of the videos on my channel and I've since been hooked on his intelligent content and wry commentary.

Wow, I really enjoyed this one thx for sharing it with us. 😊

I enjoyed your narration and investigative insights on this tragic mystery.

There are bears (black bears) in BWCA. Rather than wolves I'd think it could have been a bear. A bear could have grabbed him while he was sleeping, leaving the blood in the hammock, and simply pulled him out and finished him off outside the tent. That wouldn't necessarily have torn up the hammock. Black bear attacks are also rare, but not unknown.

@bendy6626

3 ай бұрын

Can't rule out multiple predators over time, either. Maybe bear caused a fatal wound, then wolves moved in. The fact that there was wolf tracks and scat strongly supports the wolf hypothesis.

@deerichardz

3 ай бұрын

IMO, the fella injured himself, tried to stop whatever bleeding he could, went to lay down, fell asleep. From there, he could have had a seizure, or sufferred from severe blood loss. A bear, or even a wolf, could have started to scavenge the remains from there.

@lockedinstreetracing6005

3 ай бұрын

Yeap and if your asleep a black bear would take a shot at you I live around them most of the time they won't bother you hardly ever actually but there are certain times they will and there stupid black bears are not like brown bears a grizzley is smart where a black bear is well special needs 😂

@victory8928

3 ай бұрын

Scavengers and predators will stay around carcasses if they are big enough it is likely that whatever scavenged his remains stay around leaving the scar and causing the mess could have been multiple from wolves to bears maybe even a wolverine or the like as well when bigger predators weren’t around

@victory8928

3 ай бұрын

Given that it was October it could have been a bear trying to bulk up for hibernation if it was a bear which would explain the death.

14:46 in the middle of the picture is a razor/barber knife. If you are used to work with such knife you won't cut your throat.

@groglas

3 ай бұрын

I noticed that too, and I agree, the video also speculates that perhaps he was out of practice after visiting family for a couple of months, but I believe that is unlikely, maybe if it'd been a couple of decades. Additionally his beard doesn't appear to grow far enough down his neck to where such an accidental cut would need to happen, judging by the picture shown, which is admittedly of poor quality but still.

@josephvanwie6706

3 ай бұрын

Plus no blood on any blades and who lays in a hammock and shaves?

@DEATH-THE-GOAT

3 ай бұрын

@@groglas I shave with a knife. Even as a newbie I wouldn't cut my throat, it's ridiculous to even suggest such a thing.

At 7.52 you can see why this poor soul would be so vulnerable. Sad.

A real mystery and I feel so sorry for the lad. Brilliantly narrated and story told with compassion for all involved. Rest In Peace, Jordan.

There are many comments on him trekking into Minnesota unprepared… But, he didn’t freeze to death. His campsite was inadequate but we don’t know what his plans were since he died before anything more could be done.

Excellent video, great content...and the comments are great, too! So many good ideas and arguments. Thanks!

I really appreciate how much research you do

You are very professional speaker! 100% info and zero "water"! ❤

(This is kind of long) I was a Forestry and Wildlife Conservation major in College, and we took a month long trip to the BWCA in N. Minnesota. We were from out of State. We camped at an old logging camp with cabins, way out in the middle of nowhere. The first night, myself and a couple of others decided for only GOD knows why. To go walking in the woods, at night with no flashlights. No one knew where we went, as we weren't supposed to leave camp. You know unruly college kids. We didn't have cell phones in the early 90s. It was early fall, I want to say also in October, and bitter cold that night. The moon was bright. We got no more than, if even 1/4 mile from the cabins when we all heard what sounded like something really big pacing us to our right. It sounded extremely big and on two feet. But no way. SO..We stopped. It stopped. No one dared to say Sasquatch. I'm sure most of us didn't believe in them anyway. We decided it was a moose or elk or some big game animal like that. We didn't have a clue what animals lived in that region. Given the logging camp was only opened once a yr. for Forestry majors to stay at. (day trips for hands on learning) we figured it was just some big animal that noticed something new in the area. We quickly turned around and made our way back to the cabin. It was such a non incident, we didn't even talk about it amongst ourselves. That was the first night. A few days on, we visited an outriggers, and they distinctly warned us of bear and I want to say mt. lion or lynx I believe. That might have been when we went to Northern New Mexico and camped in the Rockies. IDK..was awhile back. I remember the bear warning most of all. That kind of shook those of us who took off walking in the forest alone that first night. We DID talk about it that night after visiting an outriggers. It was a single animal, and big. NONE of us were from an area that had large predators. We were highly stupid to take off wandering and so we remained good Forestry students after that and remained in our cabins at night. So after all that good for nothing story. Anyone remember the lady in Germany was camping, with a bunch of others, and she kept dreaming something was messing with her head. She didn't wake up, nor the others, but just kept dreaming something was messing with her head. Apparently, if I recall the story right. She finally DID wake and it was a damn fox chewing on her head. It snuck into camp and grabbed her by her head and I guess it tried to drag her away but obviously it couldn't, so it just chewed on her head. Why couldn't something like that have happened to this man? Something, I'm going with a bear, just sneak in while he's sleeping and bite down and drag him out. No time to do much, and wouldn't tear anything up, other than what he was wearing? I can't stress how often diff. people and places warned us of bears. We were warned of bear so much, it has to be a bear bulking up for winter that initially got him. Others scattered his remains after the bear had it's share?

@davidsadler7047

3 ай бұрын

At least 2 people were killed by bears this way in Yosemite not that long ago. Dragged by the head from their tent and killed.

@semtech30

3 ай бұрын

Not to often you will hear a Bear walking heavy. It is rather stealthy. Only if twigs or brush are snapped under it's weight.

@thebeasters

3 ай бұрын

This is called living, the young people now literally don't even drink or go to parties or socialize, hell they don't even have malls, and God forbid they go outside Not being the old grumpy guy like they used to say at us, I'm just saying I feel bad for them Some of that could be done on their own, some of it is just the way everything is now We are from nature, we are one with it, it's truly peaceful.

@Mike-es2yg

3 ай бұрын

YES, I remember this! Crazy

@Thunderous333

3 ай бұрын

​@@thebeastersI don't think I could find a comment so ridiculously unaligned with the original message if I tried. This guy relayed a whole ass story to you and you just made a bot response about kids these days and we're one with nature. LMFAO tell that to the headless valley, the cannibal Oregon trail, and plenty of other horrible deadly ways nature fucks you over. I love nature, but I also know I love modern tech and meds and heating and food. Next time read the damn comment your replying to instead of jabbering on like some old fart in a retiring home.

I've been to bwca in October, 13 years ago, not a place to go unprepared. I was fortunate to be there with an experienced woodsman, a good friend. It was an awesome experience, but only because of my friends expertise. I would not want to do it alone like my friend has done many times. Vast, stunningly beautiful area, we covered 25 miles of canoeing and 5 miles of portaging. Took 4 days. I thought we did something rather significant. When we got back to the outfitters i once again surveyed our map, then looked up to compare it to a wall mural map which showed our little map, and 30+ other maps just like ours that were adjoining and all part of the larger bwca area. We had barely scratched the surface. It is a true wilderness, to be respected,and treasured. So glad to have done it. Not sure i could do it again.

A detailed, balanced take that doesn't jump to unfounded conclusions. Good work.

Good story man,, well done!!

Camping in Minnesota?!--I can't think of a worse way to spend the winter.

It's a good day when the missing enigma uploads. Best channel to ever cover such topics. Love from England

Your attention to detail is much appreciated. Saves time. 👍

The woods, the desert, the ocean, the mountains...they are all ready to quickly take out the naive, the unprepared, the arrogant, etc.

@marcmenard9121

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Man's no match for nature

@polarbearsrus6980

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Don't mess with Mother Nature.😳

Im convinced that he succumbed to blood loss or infection on the ground near the tent. He wouldn’t have his bones scattered and clothes shredded if otherwise. Coyotes and then buzzards. The giveaway for me was the half used aid kit and the half bottle of cheap vodka in the tent. He may have found a dryer half dead tree far from camp he may have mis-swing while holding logs to spilt into firewood it happens all the time and not uncommon for someone to lose a finger doing that. With temperatures dropping so quickly he may have been unable to start that truck if the battery was old. We have no evidence to say that the truck was recently serviced or had a new battery put in. He may have returned to camp and dressed the wound but his tent and clothes would have been covered in bacteria from working so much prior and eating in the hammock. These type of infections usually lead to swelling and an intense burning sensation. Its possible that blood infections killed him. I know the amount of blood may not seem like a lot but from the pools they photographed it seemed he was bleeding alot. When we shoot a deer with a gun or bow sometimes there will be a small red pool of blood right where the projectile impacted the animal. It will look like a water balloon filled with blood was dropped on the ground. Then there will be drops of blood falling along where the animal traveled. Finally when you find the body it will have a larger puddle of blood under it. They show 3 separate locations where large pools of blood. The police work was not really thorough. They only dna tested the bones not the blood stains. Jordans blood? Animal blood? The blood of an attacker? Who fucking knows because the cops decided it wasn’t worth testing. They also never listed so many items in the report but i guess the guy who said blood didnt need to be tested for dna also probably said that knives are not a relevant piece of evidence in a scene with large amounts of blood and no obvious other weapons. Also its easier for cadaver dogs to smell through snow than it is through wet ground, water traps scent particles that the dog would need to smell in order to find him. Snow on the ground is made from lots of tiny ice crystals with air between them. The smells will stick to the outside of the ice crystal they dont become lost until you guessed it THE SNOW MELTS. I hate hearing about these lackadaisical police investigators who’s work ethic more closely resembles your average minimum wage fast food teenage employee and not a public servant earning an average salary of $90,000 usd.

Great delivery on the whole story.

I grew up in Southern New Mexico and knew a Grider family. Wondering if Jordan was related to them. This is my first time catching your videos. Well done!

O baby! I was just about to look u up, and BOOM! U put out a new video.. thank u 💞 this is one of the best channels left on YT

@lucassmith1886

3 ай бұрын

Yes! Him, Bob Gymlan, Bedtime Stories and Wartime Stories, Archie's Archive, Beyond Creepy, Scary Interesting, Disturban and Disturban History are some others along similar lines if you haven't checked them out I highly recommend it!

I think this is a slightly different format from when I'd watched you some time ago. I like it! Thanks as always for another very intriguing case. Your presentation of the facts is very informative and engaging.

Very perplexing!! Kim, new to your show!

"shredded sleeping bag" sounds like a bears favorite cereal... Wow am i stoned. Carry on.lol

I love this channel- I completely follow along with your theories. Well thought out and no exaggeration and drama. Just facts and investigation.

🙌🏻My favorite channel to see post a new video! Love your style, nice work🤜🏻🤛🏻

I think people are overthinking the "accidental cut" theory. Like okay, he probably wasn't shaving and there was no whittled wood around. But what about just *dropping* the thing? Just one little fumble of a super-sharp knife that just happens to fall in a particularly bad spot. The way I see it, he could have been in the hammock, decides to take a look at a knife for whatever reason, pulls it out, and accidentally drops it on himself. He's already holding the sheath because he *just* pulled it out, so he swipes the knife clean on something and puts it back into the sheath. It wouldn't take any additional time to do that; plus if he'd just cut himself, he might have thought it was a good idea not to leave the knife unsheathed while he ran around trying to save himself (and risk a second accident). Just a freak accident.

my friend fell off his bike when we were riding home after a little club tour. He hit his head pretty hard. I said let's go to the hospital just to be sure. But he said everything was fine and he wanted to come home. Because his girlfriend was already waiting. He didn't actually have any major injuries, nothing. The next day I got a call from his girlfriend, which I didn't expect. She woke up in the morning and he was lying next to her in bed as normal. When they tried to wake him up, they noticed that he was unresponsive and extremely cold. Unfortunately he died in his sleep from a brain hemorrhage and never woke up again. Head injuries cannot be ignored. REST IN PEACE. My friend. That's how I could imagine it in this case too. And later a bear, wolf, whatever pulled him out of the hammock. Or maybe he wasn't lying in it at all but on the ground in his tent? In any case, very sad, the only consolation was that he was able to die at home. R.I.P.

I’d like to add something. I have no idea what happened, but as far as knives being sheafed, you really don’t know what you will do in an emergency. At 19 I had a hand accident in my dad’s basement with a table saw, and despite my injury and all the blood, I was told later that I turned around and unplugged the saw from the wall because the rule was to never leave a powered tool plugged in because I had young siblings. I had no memory I did this, but the evidence was there from the blood and the fact the saw was unplugged. So lesson here is sometimes people are capable of doing things that don’t seem that important to the emergency event at the time, but were important in other situations. If he had an accident with a knife, he could have easily put it back where it belonged because that just might have been what he always did. He may not have been in panic mode.

Im new to your channel im in to missing 411 paranormal big foot etc but u got me with this title im thinking the case had big foot evidence it still was very very interesting tho

Amazing content as always! Thank you!

Great video, as always. Thanks for your efforts

If wolves, bones should have had teeth marks

I love listening to "Uncle Billys Bedtime Stories" right before I go to bed!

You always have an interesting one for us, Nick. Another excellent video to add to your impressive collection of work.

@Mike-es2yg

3 ай бұрын

His name is Nick? Looks like a Terry, or a Frank....

I am so happy your channel was recommended to me, I just love it!🙏🏻💕

That area in Minnesota has had its fair share of Sasquatch encounters/sightings

@TG-jy8uz

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Are u serious?

@DrShred24

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@@TG-jy8uz deadly

@RichardGofourth

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that's what it sounds like to me Bigfoot

@fabiobrondi8199

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You've probably have seen the Bigfoot Encounter on Christmas 2014 in Northern Minnesota: kzread.info/dash/bejne/gJl905WIl5O-gtI.html