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@schumikel8387

3 жыл бұрын

i wanted to know that there are times when you use the iching ... and when you get a reply...for example hexagram 1.4 ...it asks the induvidual to take a leap of faith..?? i was wondering what were your thoughts on this???

@HermeticallyHermeticThricGreat

2 жыл бұрын

Ask me how to end it with a smile 😁

The pendulum of the mind oscillates between sense and nonsense, not between right and wrong. -C. G. Jung

@TieMaxx

2 жыл бұрын

What does that mean?

@sinisterminister4201

2 жыл бұрын

@@TieMaxx Read; beyond good and evil.

@otto_jk

2 жыл бұрын

@@sinisterminister4201 why would you recommend a Nietzsche book when you quoted Jung

@sinisterminister4201

2 жыл бұрын

@@otto_jk Why not? If you study both Jung and Nietzsche you would understand.

As I understand the Absurdist Chasm neither human experience not the realty are absurd by themselves. The absurdity comes from the fundamental disconnect between human experience and reality. Fundamental human values give to us by evolution like love our concept of free will, moral responsibility and meaning stay in stark contrast to an universe that doesn't care. If you're not willing to take a leap of faith (like me) Camus’ Absurdism seems to me the only tool we have for navigating within this paradox until we can unify human experience with the fundamental nature of the universe.

@boamopuffs3917

3 жыл бұрын

i dont know if there can be a constant rejection of either suicide, it seems that any sustained human effort to view the world from a perch of isolated & objective perspective will inevitably sink the viewer back into the world of the subjective. although i could be entirely misunderstanding Camus due to having not finished tmos... it is very conceptual heavy & his words confuse me at times

@chrisbessey358

3 жыл бұрын

I’ve always blended the two and I have no qualms about doing so. In Jonathan Haidt’s The Righteous Mind, the social psychologist finds similarities between different religions and creates a matrix of virtues that intersect. Personally, I see these virtues as a sort of social and existential evolution. Values like truth, loyalty, integrity, justice, and kindness are useful for humans to function in a healthy society which breeds healthy individuals. Where there is the tension is the fact that these values ARE conducive to a healthy society and psyche. If life on earth is a giant social experiment throughout the ages, then morals seem to be the answer to a high-functioning society. But not merely the teaching of morality, but praxis, the right action based on right thinking (but I digress). And this realization that these maxims are correct to live by makes me wonder if it’s not true because it’s relevant, but it’s relevant because it’s true. 🧐 I think Kierkegaard might be right about this one, but Camus isn’t necessarily wrong.

@renaars

3 жыл бұрын

"unify human experience with the fundamental nature of the universe" - would like to understand what you mean by this. imho the human experience is part of the universe. true unification would mean death. human experience can not be absolutely real because it exists defying reality or hacking the environment. temporarily fighting entropy. which is a part of this universe.

@DastaneZindagi.

3 жыл бұрын

Camus though contradicted his ideas at the very last stage of his life leaving sartre as the only true existentialist writer. I am reading myth of sisyphus currently and the rebel is yet to be read But before reading sartre(as camus and sartre were close in their discussion of work and the debate of whether existence precede essence or vice versa) I can not say much. I think as he says once you realise the absurdism, life is only a perpectual choice and so realising that you are free to do one thing as you can do the other. The moment we take a leap of faith absurd ceases to be absurd and we kind of betray the total thing rejecting recognition and physical suicide. However no one can live their whole life everyday facing this revolt so whether you want or not as soon as you decide not to commit suicide you kind of take an unconscious leap of faith don't you??

@renaars

3 жыл бұрын

​@@DastaneZindagi. rebellion whatever that means should be the leap of faith. anything other than suicide, yes it seems :P

I just finished The Myth of Sisyphus early today, what a coincidence

@rusirumunasinghe7354

3 жыл бұрын

Google-senpai knows that’s why you got this recommended

@jhherkert

3 жыл бұрын

I wrote my college application essay on Camus. Myth of Sisyphus, Zarathustra, and Siddhartha are the three most impactful books I’ve ever read.

@nityetal3824

3 жыл бұрын

Finishing a Camus book is one thing, understanding him profoundly and accurately a whole other thing that not many had achieved

@adamcoil5841

3 жыл бұрын

One must imagine Sisyphus happy

@off6848

3 жыл бұрын

Adam Coil that would just be a fool. Tao would mean you roll down with the boulder

I appreciate you sharing your original answer to this problem. It's refreshing.

Excellent video and analysis! You brilliantly related the philosophies and I, considering myself to be somewhat of an absurdist and a lover of existential philosophy, have learned something important here. Thank you

Thank you for this video. More on existentialism please. Also the audio in you videos has improved. Nice work!

These videos are impeccable. The cross-references are unmatched by other channels.

It would be wonderful if you could do more videos on Camus since most of the channels that talk about Camus focus mostly on "The Myth of Sisyphus" book not "The Fall" or "The Outsider". Also, for Kierkegaard, it's mostly "Fear and Trembling" while there are a lot of unsaid in the other books of these two great philosophers. :) Thanks btw for the excellent video :)

@Joey-ez4pd

3 жыл бұрын

I have Either but haven't finished reading it

Keep up the good work man. Your content is very interesting. Salam

I’m new here but your videos are well done and informative ... that’s a good thing

After reading a lot of philosophy, I came to the realisation that, like life itself, it's the journey and not the destination. I really enjoyed this video as it added a few bricks to my Tower of Babel of Knowledge, which is still a few bricks short of...etc, etc....

A great analysis 🧐, thank you. Great content.

Brilliant analysis!

You're great man, many many thanks

Fantastic video. Keep up the great work! Will make sure to support you on Patreon as much as I can!

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

🙏🙏 thank you!

@boringname3657

3 жыл бұрын

@@ThoughtsonThinking That's what I do. Just make sure to continue making similar philosophy videos.

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

@@boringname3657 that's the plan! Cheers :)

Do video on objections to both existentialism and absurdism

Fantastic analysis.

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! 😊

I have a little comment about your video, it's not a criticism because I wouldn't want it to be different. But some of the paintings that you show are so strong and deep that my attention completely jumps to the painting and I stop paying attention to what you are saying and then I have to go back and listen again xD but this is not something that you should change in my opinion! I really love this video so much, your explanations are very clear, the quality of the voice is pretty amazing, you talk in a way that is comfy to listen to. So yeah, I just became a fan! (that painting at 9:46, I had to pause the video and starting thinking about that painting for some time) (also you could add the name of the paintings and/or the artists in the description, I'm sure a lot of people would be interested)

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

You are very kind! 💜 Will do so in the future, thanks :)

what i think is , to be an existentialist one has to believe that there is a subjective meaning which is to be attained . Even our thoughts are subject to our feelings by which i mean feelings can subdue the "rational" thoughts. And the rational thoughts are only an interpretation of reality and we can not escape the pure subjective nature of our being.

@jacob_massengale

3 жыл бұрын

The essence of existentialism is the recognition of our need to act without being properly informed. All recognize this problem but their solutions are different; not all existentialist answer that a sufficient subjective meaning can be found.

@jacob_massengale

3 жыл бұрын

@@Impaled_Onion-thatsmine I don't understand. Please say this another way.

@elnino257

2 жыл бұрын

Nah just decide there is meaning and go with it

This is a challenging presentation when you believe in the Divine and us as his creatures embed with meaning and purpose within our relationship to the Divine.

@aliciawatre7508

2 жыл бұрын

that was literally what it was about though. Camus presents an alternative to faith and the hopelessness that comes from the absence of faith. this is not an attack on faith, saying this as a believer myself. I'm curious, what brought you to the absurdist philosophy as a believer?

The leap of faith doesn't seem to be a solution to the absurd, it only seems to be an extension of it.

Glad to see the first chanel that does not butcher absurdism ❤️

great video

Beautiful

I hit subscribe too hard, now theres a hole in my screen

Great vedio!

As much as I love this, I'm confused. I need baby steps for this.

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

What's confusing? I guess it is if you don't know much about the philosophies

@Hotlux66_

2 жыл бұрын

@@ThoughtsonThinking no, he is right man. I studied philosophy at Stony Brook, and what you are doing is a diservise to you work and maybe this is why you dont have as many views as you should. You are using terms that should not be use in certain places and instead of using better terms or better explanations, you keep on using useless jargon. Nietzche would agree with me. N. Famously explain that philosophers have this tendency of using very basic ideas and make them sound so special by using all the jargon in existance, as if these ideas were inspired by gods. You could make people follow you more but be more specific and clear and stop choosing the hardest explanations.

@Hotlux66_

2 жыл бұрын

And if you use terms from other schools of thoughts, you should explain them.

@KeithR2002

Жыл бұрын

@@Hotlux66_ exactly what i think! sometimes i try to make sense of jargon when reading heidigger or kierkegaard but turns out the idea behind it not so complex , some which might have even already been thought on by us .

Please add subtitles

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

Done! 😊

Can u do spanish subtitles for this videos please?

have you ever thought that every (behavior) is at the same time admitting the absurdity (concept of disconnection with objective reality), and leap of faith against it. be careful

Does commenting help with the algorithm?

@user-ns5hd2jo4s

3 жыл бұрын

P.s. great video

@noyou8724

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, replies too

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-ns5hd2jo4s YES YES YES! Make philosophical discussion 👍

The act of suicide is to answer the most fundamental question to philosophy and that is whether or not life is worth living.

In this video comparing Kierkegaard, and Camu are right about the absurd two different ways of the many absurdities of being human.... I guess most philosophers find a lot of absurdities in humanity... isn’t that is why philosophers exist?

@off6848

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t say so. People like Plotinus were trying to get to the real fundamentals of being and nature it wasn’t all about alienation and individual crisis

Yeah well thats just like your opinion man

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

That's philosophy for yah 😊👍

So Camus reconciles inward within the realm of the self and Kierkegaard looks outward in a way that goes beyond a reasonably perceptible domain? Camus definitely has the stronger position imo. A subjective truth makes way more sense when organizing the self as oppose to that which exists beyond the senses.

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

Yes thats about right, I personally agree with absurdism but the only way to find that subjective meaning and purpose in absurdism is to take a personal leap of faith for oneself not towards a transcendental abstraction (as I conclude at the end) but towards your own passional nature as a human being.

@ReconNarwhal

3 жыл бұрын

Thoughts on Thinking Thanks for the clarification. I was a little confused on the message behind your closing thoughts initially.

5:00 you put to "do"'s in there.

source of first sentence please? (when one speaks to the world but response is never heard...)

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

That's my own writing 😂

While I certainly can respect Absurdism I found it felt to me that it was just a step or two away from Nihilism and I am much more comfortable with Nihilism.

@unchartedrocks1

3 жыл бұрын

Finally some1 who doesn't see nihilism as a bad thing. U should check out Laughing at Nothing or The Nihilist both written by John Marmysz.

@noheroespublishing1907

3 жыл бұрын

@@unchartedrocks1 Thanks for the recommendation. Nihilism has a shitty reputation for seemingly no reason, I think it describes life exactly as it is, in shorthand, a series of distractions until death.

@unchartedrocks1

3 жыл бұрын

@@noheroespublishing1907 many connect nihilism 2 chaos which is why is leaves a sour taste in many people's mouth but that is merely a misunderstanding & misleading view of the philosophy. That & the fact that many deeply want 2 hold on 2 something whether that is religion, God, love, a revolution, ambition, anything that keeps them feeling as if they have a bigger meaning than they actually believe. It isnt until the moment that 1 accepts that their significance is less by stretching it beyond the universe that they take in the realization that their meaning they gave life is just that...their meaning & that meaning can only be theirs. They can share it with others but by the end of the day that existential meaning still doesnt mean anything 2 the universe which will do away with all whenever it pleases.

@noheroespublishing1907

3 жыл бұрын

@@unchartedrocks1 Couldn't agree more.

@off6848

3 жыл бұрын

unchartedrocks1 hmm I mean i agree with all of that but still have faith in God for practicality I notice I suffer bad consequences when I don’t consider faith in my actions and I have had enough of swimming against Tao

10:22 "comes a priori a faith made for oneself, which hopes for there to be something worth living for *in the subjective truth that they find dear*" I feel like this implies that a leap of faith AND its consequences are tailored by the person himself to suit his own needs. What I see people describing in several places is that some of the consequences or obligations of the leap of faith may go against every atom in your body and you may find them unethical or non justifiable or ugly, but your original commitment to the leap itself is what keeps you going. Does that make sense ?

Add subtitle indonesia

If we cannot know things beyond what we observe with our five senses, then how do we know that we cannot know such things? Point to such a fact within empirical experience. Camus is just restating the problem of the one and the many without giving an answer to it.

Ask me how to end it with a smile

The Myth of Sisyphus is not a book, its an essay.

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

😂 okay

I'm more like Camus.. skeptical, agnostic... Find Jung more interesting than Camus but unlike Jung I can't say I know God exists. I hope consciousness survives death, but not sure.

@dannyvanhecke

3 жыл бұрын

@@thotslayer9914, Descartes was a cool philosopher for his time but only read one book of him, in my teens and 20's I enjoyed Camus, Hume and Nietzsche more.

@dannyvanhecke

3 жыл бұрын

@@thotslayer9914 Leibniz, yep he sure must have been intelligent, knew a lot about maths, history, etc too but seemed a bit naive in his ideas about God imo. Find Spinoza more interesting when it comes to ideas about God (pantheism).

@dannyvanhecke

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, upanishads, taoism, etc is pretty cool.

@dannyvanhecke

3 жыл бұрын

@@thotslayer9914 yeah, i sure like buddhism too.

@suatustel746

3 жыл бұрын

Conscientious needs to be upgrade as far as space traveller concern, you'll have to adopt unexpected pitfalls in order to build your defence mechanism, so every land scape demands peculiar adaptities.

You talk of the absurd but when mentioning suicide it sounds as if you look down upon it. You say giving up? I say giving in.

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

Why should anyone give in? I see it as acquiescing in the face of tragedy one must live through it with diligence and smile in it's face :)

@kiwis.4228

3 жыл бұрын

Thoughts on Thinking different perspectives

@ThoughtsonThinking

3 жыл бұрын

@@kiwis.4228 exactly 😂

The virgin kierkegaard vs the chad camus

great video