Kidnapped and Forced to Make Action Films

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In 1978, two South Korean filmmakers--Director Shin Sang-ok and his star actress and ex-wife, Choi Eun-hee--were abducted and smuggled into North Korea in order to revolutionize the country's dying film industry.

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  • @AtrocityGuide
    @AtrocityGuide Жыл бұрын

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  • @Thenameless1

    @Thenameless1

    Жыл бұрын

    This is absolutely your best work so far.

  • @SuckerpunchHilstrand

    @SuckerpunchHilstrand

    Жыл бұрын

    MIssed you AG

  • @captnwebb4669

    @captnwebb4669

    Жыл бұрын

    Really great stuff, missed you :)

  • @executor31

    @executor31

    Жыл бұрын

    Welcome back , glad to see new vids

  • @protolanhan9824

    @protolanhan9824

    Жыл бұрын

    Video is great Thumbnail is bad

  • @SacredDaturana
    @SacredDaturana Жыл бұрын

    Having Pulgasari continue to devour iron after the enemy is defeated seems almost like a direct indictment of the Kim regime, gotta wonder how that subversive note slipped through.

  • @nonna_sof5889

    @nonna_sof5889

    Жыл бұрын

    I mean the Nazis let a film about the Titanic with a fictional German officer continually saying "maybe don't do this thing that's going to get us all killed" and getting ignored be made. By the time it was done Germany wasn't doing well and they at least had the self-awareness not to screen it at home, but still.

  • @Gloomdrake

    @Gloomdrake

    Жыл бұрын

    Based on Il's shallow readings of films, I don't think the Kim regime understands subtext

  • @frankmarano1118

    @frankmarano1118

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Gloomdrake yeah for real

  • @WeWereEatingRotisserieChicken

    @WeWereEatingRotisserieChicken

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Gloomdrake hum, if I got that right, it's not that Kim Jong-Il didn't catch subtext; rather he was inept in conveying how to do it to others.

  • @dustgraystone9448

    @dustgraystone9448

    Жыл бұрын

    It was too subtle.

  • @jonesy279
    @jonesy279 Жыл бұрын

    “My Wife and I were absolutely NOT kidnapped” is a phrase that only people who have been kidnapped would say.

  • @blueprint7

    @blueprint7

    Жыл бұрын

    So what would someone say to convince you they weren't kidnapped?

  • @TheXorph64

    @TheXorph64

    Жыл бұрын

    @@blueprint7 I think the only thing that might be truly convincing would be to simply never address whether you were/weren't kidnapped. Just go on living your life, not giving accusations of you having been kidnapped the time of day, as doing so shows a confident air of "that's an accusation so ridiculous it's not even worth responding to".

  • @Ten_Thousand_Locusts

    @Ten_Thousand_Locusts

    Жыл бұрын

    @@blueprint7 just reply: "lol right" and move on with your life.

  • @violenceisfun

    @violenceisfun

    11 ай бұрын

    And "I do NOT beat my wife" is what all wife beaters say.

  • @powercage

    @powercage

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@blueprint7say you were kidnapped, duh.

  • @emilybarclay8831
    @emilybarclay8831 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine being a child and having your parents both go missing one after another in identical fashion and then you hear they’ve betrayed their country and joined the enemy side, imagine what that does to a kid’s psyche

  • @NefariousSpineLizard

    @NefariousSpineLizard

    Жыл бұрын

    And you know they were tormented by other children for it.

  • @Nah_Bohdi

    @Nah_Bohdi

    Жыл бұрын

    I would become hostile to my home nation and defect in heart. The revolution is eternal.

  • @lasarousi

    @lasarousi

    Жыл бұрын

    Probably good things like questioning the nation that turned their backs to their parents or questioning why a flag is used like a weapon against other humans.

  • @baneblade__

    @baneblade__

    Жыл бұрын

    @@NefariousSpineLizard bullying in east asian countries is serious shit. I'd rather be bullied by a whole american school than a koran or japanese class

  • @ds4251

    @ds4251

    Жыл бұрын

    This is kind of why I want a sequel series to The Americans

  • @adamangeles9570
    @adamangeles9570 Жыл бұрын

    I think accented cinema has said it before but the fact that Pulgasari is an allegory of the "liberation of the north korean people through the regime" is amazing considering that the monster is never satiated after defeating the capitalist it keeps eating and eating, destroying the same people it swore to protect.

  • @Khenfu_Cake

    @Khenfu_Cake

    Жыл бұрын

    It's essentially a Kaiju Animal Farm.

  • @nathanhall4917

    @nathanhall4917

    Жыл бұрын

    It's amazing they got away with that.

  • @taionalmeida5337

    @taionalmeida5337

    Жыл бұрын

    That essay Of Accented Cinema was absolutelly Amazing. He, actually, gives three possible interpretations for why the end Of the movie is like is. That abstrat form is clearly a criticism Of people who after fighting the right side Of the things decided to be in the same position Of Power they overthrow tyrants. But who was the film talking about? Most probably the revolution on North Korea itself but in abstract you can blame anyone else. Otherway probably this movie would never be finished.

  • @lazydroidproductions1087

    @lazydroidproductions1087

    11 ай бұрын

    Well I would bet the plot was sold as that, but yeah. The monster consumes the iron they created it to protect. They did not give it to the outsiders but instead to a monster of their own creation and it takes far more than even the enemies they made it to fight would have taken

  • @foofoochacha

    @foofoochacha

    10 ай бұрын

    I guess you could say the ending has a lot of ..... irony ..... :D :D (I'll show myself out)

  • @GojiraRising
    @GojiraRising Жыл бұрын

    Years ago when I was a kid my cousin showed me a bootleg of Pulgasari because I love Godzilla/Kaiju and I didn't know the history of its behind the scenes and when we finished it i was like "Hey that was a pretty cool movie" then he casually tells me everything about how it came to be and I was like "oh".

  • @jeffcgh

    @jeffcgh

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s insane that a country with a history like this made such an interesting movie

  • @glidershower

    @glidershower

    Жыл бұрын

    @Lucas Portasio Forrealz. I was irritated at one documentary one guy made of his travel to Norkoland, for him at the end to come out saying "Oh yeah, there's a sense of pride and respect I grew for this place". _Yeah, no shit, genius, having their songs and other natiocrap stuff blared errywhere 24/7 for an entire week is going to have that effect on even foreigners._ Mind you, this was after he had already left the place.

  • @fcktherich6913

    @fcktherich6913

    Жыл бұрын

    @Lucas Portasio yeah keep in mind that the US government helps produce most war movies (top gun), video games (war video games) and even chips in for tv shows (like all the Tom Clancy stuff) notice in all these games and movies the "good guys" do tons of questionable/outright war crimes but it's ok because they're the good guys. Also check out the CIA operation mockingbird and the concept of the Overton window. Americans are surrounded by propaganda in every aspect of our lives

  • @Dominicn123

    @Dominicn123

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol I think that’s why the world is so fascinated with NK! All of the oddball weirdo tales thatve come out from them, they’re dirt poor, likely in the whole world too, but they’ve always managed to pull all of these ridiculous hijinks like an immature child to try and bring in funds whether that be cohnterfeiting money, drug sales overseas (for real lol), kidnapping of many foreigners to teach languages to citizens, lots of abductions actually lol and other crazy tales that are all so interesting BUT One thing i want to stress, is that if you’re looking to further look into North Korean things, please avoid that one popular North Korean girl on KZread, like the one that has “voice of North Korea” on her channel name, for all your NK news, she has been proven to be extremely fake, exaggerates all of her stories, and she has profited greatly from that!! From constantly changing her story about her survivor more than 10 times ON RECORD, she constantly suckers big venues like google and other outlets to pay her a lot to lecture and other things, she constantly steals NK content and stories from other big KZreadr channels covering the country and makes videos about them as if it was her original content, and has been exposed many times for all of those types of bs, I was once a fan but began noticing a lot of inconsistent things and after looking into her more, realized how fake she was

  • @ARC1300

    @ARC1300

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s no North Korean production. But it is worth looking up the history of the production of the wizard of OZ. Lead paint related death, the treatment of Judy Garland , the munchkins……ooooh boy. While you’re at it, look at all it took to make gone with the wind.

  • @AfutureV
    @AfutureV Жыл бұрын

    It is always saddening to hear stories of people who do nothing wrong and yet are perceived as traitors by two opposing sides. It is especially infuriating because it does not make sense and lacks all empathy.

  • @mlgcactus1035

    @mlgcactus1035

    Жыл бұрын

    The 70s where like an alien planet

  • @nickmagrick7702

    @nickmagrick7702

    Жыл бұрын

    it makes perfect sense though. Every one is invested in their own self survival and comfort. Its rare for the people who truly are not. No one wants to take a risk and allow someone near them that even has the possibility of being able to hurt you. Like most people would be afraid to be bit by dogs too much to help any who are actually wounded. The nations are also playing their own games where they want to preserve their self image, not wanting to look weak and not inviting the possibility of being humiliated on a national stage. These people just don't matter in those big schemes. And the people invested in those large scale schemes involving millions of people, what do they care about these 2? They mean nothing. And thats how they are going to rationalize it to themselves. All the while thinking they are heroes serving the duty of protecting the millions of other people.

  • @datadoggieein

    @datadoggieein

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mlgcactus1035 “The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.”

  • @gavingreenhorn

    @gavingreenhorn

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree completely. The surviving US solder's story is most infuriating. He went through such an ordeal and immediately after that his own government puts him through another. And for what, for being left, helpless and forgotten in an alien country, cut out from the rest of the world and doing what he must do to survive? I hope US government admitted their mistake and cleared this man's name.

  • @nachgeben

    @nachgeben

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gavingreenhorn I can't say if they did that, but when trapped behind enemy lines, brainwashing and creating sleeper agents is a very real thing. North Korea has an entire unit of abducted Japanese fit to that very purpose. No one even knew until they made the mistake of taking a 14-year-old girl. You need to make sure a returned person under such conditions isn't hiding something after potentially severe abusive brainwashing.

  • @mikehawk4388
    @mikehawk4388 Жыл бұрын

    The way Kim was laughing so casually while explaining his plot to kidnap Shin & Choi, right to their faces, is one of the most chilling recordings I've ever heard.

  • @treehann

    @treehann

    Жыл бұрын

    I could barely believe it! I guess being so insulated makes even a country’s leader prone to weakness like that.

  • @CrustyUgg

    @CrustyUgg

    Жыл бұрын

    Well he's completely unable to realize how ridiculous his way of thinking is

  • @philj9594

    @philj9594

    Жыл бұрын

    @@treehann After Kim Il Sung, North Korea became brainwashed at the very top of the chain. He lacked the proper context to understand that what he was doing was wrong. In their eyes it's the rest of the world that is wrong and anything they do to harm us is for the greater good. I hold out hope that the cycle will be broken soon. Kim Jong-un has shown a glimpse of this already happening with having a more open mind when dealing with foreign powers and his fascination with western things such as basketball. I believe he already has a feeling that maybe things should be different and hopefully that idea gets passed down to future leaders until a real change occurs.

  • @KotoCrash

    @KotoCrash

    Жыл бұрын

    Theres definitely an air of "It was all for the best huh? You love it here right?"

  • @LimeyLassen

    @LimeyLassen

    10 ай бұрын

    I really goes to show how the man was a maniac who treated people around him like dolls.

  • @Rexdrinkredbull
    @Rexdrinkredbull Жыл бұрын

    This is seriously some "indomitable human spirit" stuff; throughout the cruel, grueling conditions they were put under, they were able to cover their tracks and make sure that, when they escaped, people would know what really happened. They were really playing the long game, from the tape recorder in the purse to them emptying the account the night before - humans are able to do amazing things even under stress. I hope that they are both resting easy.

  • @nickmagrick7702

    @nickmagrick7702

    Жыл бұрын

    and just think, they've not even had the worst of it. They have some of the luckiest stories of all the prisoners in that country. Others are more commonly beaten, humiliated, called enemies by all sides, brainwashed and tortured on a daily basis, starved, raped, had loved ones killed in front of them, or what might be worse having convinced loved ones that their own family is evil. You could say this is what a success story in North Korea looks like.

  • @nickmagrick7702

    @nickmagrick7702

    Жыл бұрын

    @Soviet Punk lol, which part? Never thought id see someone try to defend North Korea, id like to hear this

  • @-----------g-

    @-----------g-

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nickmagrick7702 🤣 🤣 🤣

  • @SwiftNimblefoot

    @SwiftNimblefoot

    Жыл бұрын

    @Soviet Punk Communism is responsible for some of the worst things in the history of Earth, so yeah you bet this is anti-communist. So am I. I grew up in a communist country and I do not wish that upon anyone.

  • @nickmagrick7702

    @nickmagrick7702

    Жыл бұрын

    @Soviet Punk funny thing is the only one here who mentioned communism was you. We were all talking about N.Korea

  • @Cosplaybuddygiraffes
    @Cosplaybuddygiraffes Жыл бұрын

    There’s something so incredibly bittersweet about the huge crowds of North Korean citizens gathered at Shin and Choi’s movie sets. Those people saw idols and heroes, they loved the duo and their art. In a stifling environment of non-stop worship, something as earnest and cheesy as drama films can really be home away from home. It’s the truest example of art being capable of having meaningful impact. But for Shin and Choi, this was forced upon them. Yes, there’s a strange irony in their North Korean films giving them more success and pleasure, but it would also be the venture that doomed them from ever hitting it big again. The works that dazzled others and gave them a newfound love for the art of filmmaking would be what their idols got casted away for.

  • @Blacknight8850
    @Blacknight8850 Жыл бұрын

    It's so sad that South Korea never really accepted them back. I know from the National Geographic series on North Korea that at least one of their kids accepted them back, but I find myself thinking about Shin Sang-ok's second family in particular, and how they must have thought that he not only deserted the country but also seemingly eloped with his first wife, too. So much lasting damage to their lives from this one mad whim of Kim Jong-Il...

  • @NefariousSpineLizard

    @NefariousSpineLizard

    Жыл бұрын

    It's so terrible. They probably sent the kids off to camps or executed them.. such a sad place to be a kid.

  • @Mateus_Carvalho

    @Mateus_Carvalho

    Жыл бұрын

    Worst part is this is just an example of a far bigger picture, one that we're likely never to know the scale of. They kidnapped a fuckload of people, y'know.

  • @matthew_natividad

    @matthew_natividad

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Mateus_Carvalho the others being the actual Godzilla suit actor

  • @hellokittybebop

    @hellokittybebop

    11 ай бұрын

    South koreas government hates North koreans that's why they killed 200,000 of them before the koream war ever started

  • @marcusdonahue7124
    @marcusdonahue7124 Жыл бұрын

    "Because I made you with the last of my true heart, please, save humanity in my place." He was hoping they would see the metaphor of an artist's creation triumphing over oppression; Even in his propaganda, there can exist a message about the redemption of humanity through the mutual understanding of art. It's glaring that Shin had more faith and confidence in the average North Korean than their great leader.

  • @BlazeHeartPanther

    @BlazeHeartPanther

    Жыл бұрын

    Kathleen Kennedy must of felt the same way with Star Wars when The Force Awakens begins with "This should begin to set things right" but had the opposite effect XD

  • @Persephone01

    @Persephone01

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah for their leader only saw thier people as tools :( Which is just insane how crazy the brainwashing is. He saw them like a tool to use and placed them in a trapped container much like the items he touched in the museum. Hopefully one day, the people can see the world beyond their dystopian nightmare.

  • @MisterDutch93
    @MisterDutch93 Жыл бұрын

    I feel extremely sorry for all those people that were kidnapped and forced to live in a foreign, hostile country against their will. That reeducation program sounds brutal and inhumane. Just imagine being forced to live in a prison state while having to leave behind all your family and friends, having your former country believe you defected willingly and being forced to marry and have kids with a total stranger you can’t even speak with because of a language barrier. This sounds like actual Hell. And even after their escape from the DPRK, they were treated as traitors and liars. It’s absolutely tragic.

  • @sisyphusvasilias3943

    @sisyphusvasilias3943

    Жыл бұрын

    Terrible... but Id rather that than be a Muslim Student in Germany, abducted from the street by the CIA and thrown in Guatanemo Bay Jail for the next 20yrs without charge, any access to courts and not allowed to communicate to your family. There are still 100> people held it GITMO without charge after 20 yrs.

  • @Bell.-

    @Bell.-

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sisyphusvasilias3943 It's always important to teach others of things like this, but I'm not sure comparing two tragic things is the way to go about it.

  • @selmevias1383

    @selmevias1383

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sisyphusvasilias3943 Are you sincerely making a hierarchy of suffering to peddle your political bullshit?

  • @Lunabyes

    @Lunabyes

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sisyphusvasilias3943 How is comparing the two in any way helpful or productive? Teaching others about it is one thing, but comparing equally traumatic experiences gets us absolutely nowhere. This isn't the trauma olympics, mate. People in both situations have faced unimaginable horrors and trauma that most of us couldn't fathom. This is not a competition of who's got it worse.

  • @SnicketySlice

    @SnicketySlice

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sisyphusvasilias3943 leftist whataboutery.

  • @ashannaredwolf8485
    @ashannaredwolf8485 Жыл бұрын

    Amid the sobriety of this, it was a breath of fresh air to see that Shin achieved some success with the 3 Ninjas franchise. I adored those movies as a kid, and I remember the first one at least being extremely popular for some time. Thank you for sharing Shin and Choi's heart-breaking story.

  • @molotera8789

    @molotera8789

    Жыл бұрын

    3 Ninjas is such a good film, classic cheesy kung fu action, breaks me to learn a kidnapped director was involved in them

  • @ittirutak1058
    @ittirutak1058 Жыл бұрын

    it's weird that they were questioned about being imprisoned. these days it is really easy to understand how north korea treats people. it must've been so frustrating having to explain to people that you were a prisoner

  • @joshuarichardson6529

    @joshuarichardson6529

    Жыл бұрын

    Even worse, to finally get to freedom, and learn that American producers were willing to offer even less creative freedom than a brutal dictator did.

  • @Lazypackmule

    @Lazypackmule

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshuarichardson6529 Well, that much is understandable In a land of plenty where your skills are mundane, you have to prove yourself and bend to the whims of those in charge- but when you're the only fish in a tiny and desperate pond, the ones in charge can't afford to risk ruining what you have to offer

  • @hotlinekrapfen

    @hotlinekrapfen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Lazypackmule what a dumb metaphor lmao

  • @LikaLaruku
    @LikaLaruku Жыл бұрын

    "Any item he touched was made a holy artifact & placed in a museum under glass." Holy shit, no other dictator on earth after a pharaoh had an ego this big.

  • @miam2772
    @miam2772 Жыл бұрын

    Hearing that they couldn’t make a Hollywood movie about their experience is sad, but in light of increasing openness and diversity to international media, I think it could be made into a movie or limited series now. The horrors of North Korea, a time piece of the 80s, a show about show business, along with the Korean drama craze in general would be a recipe for success

  • @cherrymetoo
    @cherrymetoo Жыл бұрын

    Can't imagine the horror of being held captive in a country like North Korea, I'd definitely dread every moment of my life. Even the retelling of their escape made me anxious.

  • @sisyphusvasilias3943

    @sisyphusvasilias3943

    Жыл бұрын

    Compare their treatment to the 100+ people illegally abducted from the streets in cities around the world and thrown in GITMO to be tortured without trial or even without charges. 20yrs later they're still there. Some are not even officially acknowledged and we only know they are there b/c of a few soldiers who blew the whistle on their torture. .... All Julian Assange did was publish emails like all Newspapers do, he's never even been charged with a crime but has spent nearly 20yrs incarcerated. No country rivals USA for brutality, cruelty and inflicting suffering on innocent people.

  • @designatedred
    @designatedred Жыл бұрын

    Never in my life did I ever expect "3 Ninjas" to be brought up in association with this. Holy crap. I'm completely stunned.

  • @EpsilonKnight2

    @EpsilonKnight2

    Жыл бұрын

    I felt the same way. Looking through a critical eye those movies are pretty goofy and bad but they still gave me a few good laughs and smiles as a kid. I'm sad they never got much bigger than that in the USA considering how much suffering they went through.

  • @Thenameless1
    @Thenameless1 Жыл бұрын

    55:28 I'm having trouble telling whether or not this fadeout was supposed to be comedic or not but it genuinely made me laugh.

  • @AfutureV

    @AfutureV

    Жыл бұрын

    This channel tends to have a few subtle comedic moments that I really enjoy.

  • @treehann

    @treehann

    Жыл бұрын

    Hah I’m glad someone else pointed that out, it made me lol too

  • @BlazeHeartPanther

    @BlazeHeartPanther

    Жыл бұрын

    Kim Jong-Il: (Triggered)

  • @syntext
    @syntext Жыл бұрын

    Please never stop telling these stories, they need to be heard and your ability to tell them is absolutely gripping. Thank you for highlighting Shin and Choi's struggle in such a respectful way.

  • @novelezra
    @novelezra Жыл бұрын

    Recording those meetings on cassette must have taken such an incredible sense of foresight; something you would expect from a film director. Being a film director is all about planning not only what you are doing at that moment but how that moment will become part of a greater whole. Clearly he knew that escaping would be one thing; being believed would be an entirely different thing altogether. Wonderful video as always. With every video you grow stronger like a monster eating metal.

  • @sudhakar7889

    @sudhakar7889

    Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely

  • @khfan4life365
    @khfan4life3656 ай бұрын

    I admire Shin and Choi for keeping their heads while being attacked from all ends. It’s a real shame that people thought they genuinely defected. Seeing as South Korea is more familiar with the North’s tactics, you’d think they’d see through the lies.

  • @disk3001
    @disk3001 Жыл бұрын

    "the mother (actress) should've been starved for a few weeks for that scene, she is too fat" just goes to show how Kim Jong-il saw his own people, nothing more than prompt and equipment for him to play with. The way he said that as if it was the most normal thing to say in a conversation, like talking about a filming mistake on a set. He probably saw foreigners more as people than the people serving him, so morbid pretty wild story and amazing job as always!

  • @RT710.
    @RT710. Жыл бұрын

    The wait is ALWAYS worth it to see another Atrocity Guide video!!! Her content puts me into a whole new headspace every time. Thank you so much for your work!!

  • @JuanR322
    @JuanR322 Жыл бұрын

    its so sad and infuriating to hear what these people had to go through but at least nice to hear that they manage to find peace after escaping. May they rest in peace

  • @alexkarassavidis3023
    @alexkarassavidis3023 Жыл бұрын

    What an unbelievable story. It's a shame the film they hoped to make about their experience didn't take off. Seems like truly untapped greatness in a possible film.

  • @Norweeg
    @Norweeg Жыл бұрын

    I’ve heard about this story but never knew the details. A one hour video from your channel seems like the perfect way to spend my evening and learn about it!

  • @glidershower
    @glidershower Жыл бұрын

    Those final words about Kim Il are hauntingly honest: _That he's human, just like the rest of us._ So often do we vilify the monsters of the past that we lose insight on the very monsters we are seeing being created in front of our eyes. That any leader with enough charisma, a high enough budget, or just enough shadow government power, can be as prone to the excesses as the Kims are known for, and perhaps even worse. *Seeing the current political panorama, truer foreshadowing words have never been spoken.*

  • @isaiahromero9861

    @isaiahromero9861

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, that's a hard truth to swallow but it's true. Humanizing horrible people is hard but it makes it a lot easier to understand the root of the problem and helps to work towards solutions

  • @RemoWilliams1227

    @RemoWilliams1227

    Жыл бұрын

    You ain't lyin

  • @flamestoyershadowkill6400

    @flamestoyershadowkill6400

    Жыл бұрын

    a majority of evil people just do it for their greater good in order to justify their actions in their heads.

  • @willissudweeks1050

    @willissudweeks1050

    Жыл бұрын

    The only one who didn’t think he was human was himself lol

  • @willissudweeks1050

    @willissudweeks1050

    Жыл бұрын

    @@flamestoyershadowkill6400 Ya but if you’re a psychopath then you think very foul things are good.

  • @Redem10
    @Redem10 Жыл бұрын

    Imagine having such a life story that "Making the North Korean Godzilla" - is largely secondary to the whole thing

  • @sehtuk3953
    @sehtuk3953 Жыл бұрын

    The US' treatment of Charles is just infuriating. He was accused of helping the enemy (teaching English to North Koreans) and sentanced to prison time and was pretty much only let off cause of the information he could give the US about North Korea. This entire situation is utterly disgusting. I hope all the kidnapped people are able to rest in peace.

  • @CorneliusTalmadge

    @CorneliusTalmadge

    Жыл бұрын

    He defected willingly and took US army equipment with him and then received preferential treatment from the North Koreans in return for that equipment. He was sentenced to a month during which time they actually trained him in areas of modern life that had been denied to him by the DPRK e.g. how to use a computer and then they released him early for good behaviour. I'd say America's treatment of him was pretty fair given the circumstances. Had things have been the other way around, the North Koreans would have likely tortured and imprisoned him indefinitely or worse.

  • @lego007guym8

    @lego007guym8

    Жыл бұрын

    Looking up what happened, the military did it just to save public face

  • @arrow1414

    @arrow1414

    Жыл бұрын

    He wasn't kidnapped or even taken as a POW. He went over to the enemy willingly. He and the others were traitors.

  • @youtubegarbage7876

    @youtubegarbage7876

    10 ай бұрын

    First time in history that the US is the bad guy...

  • @valierebrianne9643

    @valierebrianne9643

    4 ай бұрын

    @@CorneliusTalmadge He served all of 25 days. It's baffling how everyone keeps saying the US treated him badly. He made a choice to defect (He wasn't kidnapped like the South Koreans were!), and he got a slap on the wrist. I don't necessarily think they should've punished him more, but people are acting like this is some miscarriage of justice.

  • @mrspreminger
    @mrspreminger Жыл бұрын

    Holy crap this is probably one of the most insane stories I have ever heard of. The fact that Kim Jong-il thought it was perfectly acceptable to just rip people away from their lives and families for his own gain is evil beyond comprehension

  • @numetalslug
    @numetalslug Жыл бұрын

    nowadays it feels like so many youtubers wouldnt even go through the effort to double check that they pronounce choi correctly, let alone would even get to mention the flower girl being incorporated into nk currency. im sure the comments are always full of love but im always blown away by the pacing, scripting, visual editing, and professionalism of your videos. thank u,

  • @OriginalPineapplesFoster
    @OriginalPineapplesFoster Жыл бұрын

    Once again, you've taken a story that many know the gist of and fleshed out the details so that we can fully appreciate the humans involved. Beautifully done. 👍🍍

  • @werewolfsbane
    @werewolfsbane Жыл бұрын

    this deserves millions of views. you make these so incredibly professionally and respectfully while also making an entertaining and gripping storyline. this is one of my favorite documentaries now, you just keep releasing banger after banger

  • @metumortis6323
    @metumortis6323 Жыл бұрын

    What heartbreaking story. I remember hearing a short version of it but I never knew the details. At least it had a happier ending than I expected

  • @Gymnopedie55
    @Gymnopedie55 Жыл бұрын

    A comment aside from the characters of the story told here... Amazing editing and use of footage. Filling a densely told tale with repeated stock images or iconic clips over and over is a staple of so many who try this same thing. Great job job with both the narrative itself and the visuals.

  • @LinRuiEn
    @LinRuiEn Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for telling this story to a larger audience. Shin and Choi made art in a place it seems no art could even survive. It's so sad they were cast out when all they did was work with the circumstances they were sadly forced into.

  • @xandermin
    @xandermin Жыл бұрын

    You presented this story with the nuance & compassion it deserves 💛

  • @federationred1481
    @federationred1481 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video from Atrocity guide. I now know why your videos are so enjoyable, they remind me of those late night documentaries that used to play on the late 2000s in public access South Africa. Speaking of old things in public access South African TV... I had no idea the guy who directed my childhood favorite movie 3 ninjas had such an eventful life. I got the same feeling I got seeing Nasubi in "428 Shibuya scramble". Thank you for your videos they are always a delight

  • @AtticusGrim
    @AtticusGrim Жыл бұрын

    That's wild that the dude who made 3 Ninjas went through all that. Director Shin could have comfortably said he had an entire generation of fans in the US, too.

  • @Manticorn
    @Manticorn Жыл бұрын

    I hope this doesn't sound insensitive, but I'm glad that North Koreans, for a little while, got good films. Everyone deserves a rich culture.

  • @MisterDutch93

    @MisterDutch93

    Жыл бұрын

    Choi and Shin definitely gave something good to the people of North Korea, even if it was given under duress. They were blessed with escapism from their harsh daily lives. It’s a shame everything returned back to blatant propaganda films after they left. No matter what their governments said, or the critics panning their films, these two people did good in life.

  • @MrTomEdo

    @MrTomEdo

    Жыл бұрын

    It's a tragedy that North Koreans have only escapism left in the misery brought by their regime.

  • @nickmagrick7702
    @nickmagrick7702 Жыл бұрын

    36:28 ironic that a nation obsessed with cultivating its independence was continuously forced to kidnap whatever talent they lacked.

  • @addie1080
    @addie1080 Жыл бұрын

    this is haunting, I cant imagine how difficult this was for their kids

  • @Loominaty
    @Loominaty Жыл бұрын

    Please, miss? Can we have a new video? I miss your kind of entertainment.

  • @perfectapple
    @perfectapple Жыл бұрын

    So harrowing wife and I paused around 23 minutes and will watch the rest tomorrow. Great work, listening to the recording was where we realized this was gonna keep us up of we didn't pause lol

  • @corninyourpoop

    @corninyourpoop

    Жыл бұрын

    Huh? How when this was posted a few min ago.

  • @toddo2006

    @toddo2006

    Жыл бұрын

    @@corninyourpoop for channel patrons I'm assuming

  • @lowkeydorkie

    @lowkeydorkie

    Жыл бұрын

    @@corninyourpoop patreon early access

  • @laughingseagull000

    @laughingseagull000

    Жыл бұрын

    @@corninyourpoop Patreon maybe?

  • @Weebslayer13

    @Weebslayer13

    Жыл бұрын

    @@corninyourpoop probably got early access from patreon or something of the likes

  • @kildogery
    @kildogery Жыл бұрын

    Netflix needs to help you produce a feature length documentary on this story.

  • @jaythatguyyouknow5135
    @jaythatguyyouknow5135 Жыл бұрын

    As a person that’s somewhat a history buff, I have known about the fact these two were taken, forced to make movies and eventually was able to escape. You really filled in the gaps on all this and i really appreciate how much work you put into this. There is only one thing I can criticize, that’s the way you portray the American defectors you mentioned. I’m sure you didn’t dig as deep into them since they were mentioned on passing but you should check out their story’s. The one guy had 2 sons and they were both recently in a propaganda video made by NK.

  • @lara4life656

    @lara4life656

    11 ай бұрын

    Do you think the sons have a choice to NOT be in a propaganda video? THEIR FATHER WAS A POW NEVER RELEASED, TRYING TO NOT DIE OR STAY IMPRISONED! These men were lied to they were going home only to be kept by the regime. How would you like to be kidnapped and then have your countrymen call you a traitor?!

  • @CM-ne9ej
    @CM-ne9ej Жыл бұрын

    There's something incredibly badass about being forced to make propaganda movies and then going "well, if we're gonna do it they'll be good movies..."

  • @I_am_Irisarc
    @I_am_Irisarc Жыл бұрын

    Great documentary. At some time in the past I had heard about how a number of talented actors and other related to the movie business we're kidnapped by North Korea, but I had no idea about what really happened. Seeing the way they were forced to live and work under such horrible conditions and how they managed to escape was fascinating.

  • @shontivafeva511
    @shontivafeva511 Жыл бұрын

    I watched Galgameth about 2 years ago as part of a bad movie night with friends. I'm am blown away that it is a western remake of Pulgasari!

  • @SlapstickGenius23

    @SlapstickGenius23

    Жыл бұрын

    Pulgasari had a South Korean predecessor, which was a 1962 Toku flick. Both are based on a Korean folk tale.

  • @marshaltito7232
    @marshaltito7232 Жыл бұрын

    There's a lesson here about trauma, both personal and collective. How hate and destruction and death only feed a cycle that will bring pain and suffering to people not yet even born. If humanity has an original sin this is it. What an absolute tragedy all around. But what a beautiful video, thank you for telling this tale with such grace and tact.

  • @sgtpepper91
    @sgtpepper91 Жыл бұрын

    "And as it grows, so does its disdain for imperialism" got me laughing out loud

  • @zaed11295
    @zaed11295 Жыл бұрын

    A new Atrocity guide upload?! AND IT'S AN HOUR LONG?! This is gonna be good

  • @octozozzle6140
    @octozozzle6140 Жыл бұрын

    This honestly made me tear up a little bit. While it's horrible that all of these people were brought to a foreign country against their will, it makes me really sad to hear that North Korean films were never really successful overseas despite all of the sacrifices that were made. It makes me wonder what would've happened if their films ended up being an international hit. I also feel sorry for the North Koreans, who finally got to watch a film that wasn't just propaganda for the first time in their life, loved it, and that got ripped away from them once Shin and Choi escaped.

  • @carrionsongs
    @carrionsongs Жыл бұрын

    WAKE UP BABE NEW ATROCITY GUIDE VID DROPPED!!!! i cant tell you how excited i was to see this! your work and videos are always so interesting i cant take my attention off it, i would probably watch anything you narrated lol what a horrible experience for shin and choi, they accomplished so much under such horrible duress but made the best of it, as much as they could :(

  • @ComradeCage
    @ComradeCage Жыл бұрын

    Oh AG, this....this is gonna be a crazy watch, I can already tell. Thanks for sharing! I'm very, very excited to watch this today!

  • @RodoChaska
    @RodoChaska Жыл бұрын

    It is official, your channel is a Kaiju channel now

  • @russellst.martin4255
    @russellst.martin4255 Жыл бұрын

    The fact that this dude went on to make 3 Ninjas might be even crazier than Arthur Cockstud himself.

  • @Trygon
    @Trygon Жыл бұрын

    There could not have been a bigger swerve than learning my favorite schlock from childhood came from these two.

  • @ringkunmori
    @ringkunmori Жыл бұрын

    Finally, the topic of obsession that will become my personality for the month has arrived.

  • @arklados3596
    @arklados3596 Жыл бұрын

    Always a good day when Atrocity Guide uploads.

  • @kolibri5523
    @kolibri5523 Жыл бұрын

    That was amazing, as always. Congrats AG on another incredible professional documentary on a topic barely covered by other youtubers. The NK film industry is an interesting topic and those stories of abductions are truely saddening, but overall this is facinating how much a country totally absent from the international scene wanted to shine through this media their own way. Keep on the amazing work!

  • @notavailable6460
    @notavailable6460 Жыл бұрын

    Miss you... ❤️

  • @Epex
    @Epex Жыл бұрын

    Oh wow, they made 3 ninjas? That was a childhood favorite of mine that nobody ever seems to talk about

  • @emmastrange5557

    @emmastrange5557

    Жыл бұрын

    The sequels

  • @bluediamonddirector
    @bluediamonddirector Жыл бұрын

    I first heard about the film because of my love for Godzilla and Kaiju films. Then I heard the story of how it was made and I was stunned. Glad to see you cover it.

  • @lainiwakura1776
    @lainiwakura1776 Жыл бұрын

    It's so sad how people are treated by their own governments when NK kidnaps them and makes them make say they were not kidnapped under duress. My brothers and I loved the 3 Ninjas movies though and at least his last set of movies made a bunch of us 90s kids happy.

  • @avelynn5976

    @avelynn5976

    10 ай бұрын

    @@sovietpunk5447 nah, they absolutely were kidnapped. the dprk has been doing it for decades.

  • @dimitrilitovsk2372
    @dimitrilitovsk2372 Жыл бұрын

    All cultures can have very creative and widespread positive effect but their unwillingness to allow for cultural expansion makes it difficult to learn and grow. Like listen, I love Asia but all I know about Korea is about the Korean war and about recent events that are publicized. Anyway just remember that in WW2 the Japanese government tried to erase their culture, and started teaching Korean students Japanese to try and lose their culture. This also reminds me of the Asian woman in Japan I think called "rose" and she spoke propaganda over the radio, but bc English is so different from Japanese, some people over watching her work didn't understand that she was encouraging to the American forces, and she was only making light of things to entertain the soldiers. It's interesting how sometimes the little things make or break us. Stay well and great video!

  • @Peringon
    @Peringon Жыл бұрын

    Me at the beginning: "Ah, yes. I've heard of this. It's truly one of the most fascinating cases of abduction by the North Korean state" Me at the end: "Wait a fucking minute, Shin is the guy who created 3 Ninjas?!!" O.o Life is truly full of weird surprises.

  • @Nelkhael1

    @Nelkhael1

    Жыл бұрын

    Same! I thought he was the guy who did Pulgasari. Now he is the guy who did 3 Ninjas to me.

  • @BRUXXUS
    @BRUXXUS Жыл бұрын

    Wow, I was JUST wondering if I'd missed any videos from this channel a day ago! What a treat. This is one of the few channels I drop everything for when there's a new upload.

  • @jeffcgh
    @jeffcgh Жыл бұрын

    It’s insane that a country with a history like this made such an interesting movie

  • @SamuxRadioactivity
    @SamuxRadioactivity Жыл бұрын

    absolutely fine work, Atrocity Guide. always grateful for the care and research you put into your content.

  • @disorderedfm6502
    @disorderedfm6502 Жыл бұрын

    That 3 Ninja's reveal is pretty wild for someone who grew up with those movies.

  • @sebastianwillows
    @sebastianwillows Жыл бұрын

    Wow- this was really something else. The quality has shot up drastically on this series! Incredible work :)

  • @soggysadboi
    @soggysadboi Жыл бұрын

    Wow, I've read a lot about this topic in the past and only recently discovered this channel -- what a treat, absolutely loved it

  • @johny_mo8318
    @johny_mo8318 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for putting together this excellent documentary. I felt so much for Shin and Choi, two humble people who did what they loved, stuck inside a forever war.

  • @treehann
    @treehann Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely incredible. Thanks for making this, i think it’s your best so far. I feel so bad for those two.

  • @austindahu
    @austindahu Жыл бұрын

    This is a masterful deep diving documentary. Deserves way more eyes, what a tragic and intriguing story.

  • @ariesdemiurge
    @ariesdemiurge Жыл бұрын

    I was rather terrified when Kenpachiro Satsuma was mentioned. Then a part of me remembered he was also Goji for the 90's and calmed down abit. Then to make sure those weren't just temporary leaves, I found out neither him nor the SFX studio were kidnapped, just duped into landing in North Korea instead of China, but were allowed to leave. Then I breathed the biggest sigh of relief. Also slight confusion cuz you'd think that the guy who thinks the first step to film collaboration is kidnapping your partners-to-be and putting them in prison camps would immediately kidnap the current generation's Godzilla to play their next kaiju. Honestly I wouldn't have been surprised if Kim Jong Il forced Haruo Nakajima out of retirement, solely because it would be the OG from the '54 film playing his shiny new monster.

  • @kunduo
    @kunduo Жыл бұрын

    The quality of these videos is worth the wait

  • @shanesullivan460
    @shanesullivan4608 ай бұрын

    "He was involved in the production of the Three Ninjas films" is not something I ever expected in this story.

  • @SkeletorOmega2
    @SkeletorOmega2 Жыл бұрын

    please upload again!

  • @samr.1073
    @samr.1073 Жыл бұрын

    Come back, Atrocity Guide !

  • @TheDolphinTuna
    @TheDolphinTuna Жыл бұрын

    Utterly fascinating. This might be your best video yet, AG- and that’s already a high bar!

  • @NormDeMoss
    @NormDeMoss Жыл бұрын

    Overjoyed to see you're back again! My heart skipped a beat when I saw the new post on the subreddit!

  • @thekiwiclipper1113
    @thekiwiclipper1113 Жыл бұрын

    All your videos are amazing, but I think this is the best one yet. I’m so grateful for your great videos on obscure stuff.

  • @Ankudamurderer
    @Ankudamurderer Жыл бұрын

    It's really sad thinking about artists that were basically imprisoned for so many years, having free reign but not being able to make what they really want to make. Then when they get out for a better life not having the respect or freedom to do what they wanted to do either.

  • @VS-kf5qw
    @VS-kf5qw Жыл бұрын

    What really struck me about the ending that not only did SK eclipse NK's aspirations for Korean cinematic prestige ... but that they even managed to do a better job at criticizing capitalism. A real historical irony that.

  • @Froschvampir
    @Froschvampir Жыл бұрын

    This is one of the best indie documentaries I've seen on KZread. Absolutely stunning work, very interesting topic, great narration and choice of source material.

  • @RickSolid1
    @RickSolid1 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing job AG! I’m going to rewatch this several times and probably do several web searches for articles related to this insanity.

  • @briandee554
    @briandee554 Жыл бұрын

    What a documentary… there’s something greatly unknowable about Shin. Even tho he’s glad to be free, the last minutes seemed to me he missed the fame and recognition he got in NK a bit as well…

  • @rivetsquid8887
    @rivetsquid8887 Жыл бұрын

    I knew what it was gonna be about from the title, but you're back and with an hour of detailed coverage on it? Yessss please

  • @philinegro
    @philinegro Жыл бұрын

    Love the video AG! Thank you for all the time effort and love you put in!

  • @PaperWill
    @PaperWill Жыл бұрын

    Absolutely fantastic video. I’ve been working on something similar for awhile, and I’ll absolutely be citing this as a terrific source for people who want to know more about these two.

  • @ando_ow
    @ando_ow Жыл бұрын

    I respect how this documentary is realized & how many footage it has. Great work

  • @authornathanday6983
    @authornathanday698310 ай бұрын

    With the success of Argo and Parasite in the not-so-distant past, now is still an ideal time for their story to be made into film. Incredible yet tragic. I think they've earned that honor. Great vid, yet again!

  • @j.s.7894
    @j.s.7894 Жыл бұрын

    Oh boyyyy, always so stoked to see you upload!!!! can’t wait to watch this after work

  • @bonzibuddy4483
    @bonzibuddy4483 Жыл бұрын

    Still one of the best documentarians on youtube and going strong. Even when I'm already familiar with the subject matter every video is worth watching.

  • @12Tecpatl
    @12Tecpatl Жыл бұрын

    Incredible video, the wait is always worth it, thank you for including multiple testimonies and nuance. What a wild and heartbreaking story

  • @dhorinfireheart99
    @dhorinfireheart99 Жыл бұрын

    Genuinely chilling and sad. Thank you for such a fantastic video 💖

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