When I remember looking into this a year or two ago, the primary reason that the single-use bottle should not be refilled is that they are not rated to do so, meaning that the inside will not withstand multiple fillings. In terms of rust. There is moisture inside all propane, those single use ones are filled at the factory with most, if not all of the moisture removed on the initial filling. But to continue to use it is a gamble on when you may get a leak. Plenty of people do it and have no issue and that's their choice. But when it comes to flammable or explosive items, I'd rather use the proper tools for the job. Great video

@om617yota8

5 ай бұрын

If you've ever taken apart a single use bottle, the steel is only slightly tougher than a spray paint can. I used to be pretty careless with how I handled them, but after taking one apart and seeing how little it would take to puncture one(drop one just wrong on a sharp rock) I'm a lot more careful. I've also had several valves fail and start leaking on the single use cylinders. They usually seal fine until used, but I've had plenty fail to re-seal after one use, and have to be kept attached to the appliance to keep from leaking all the fuel away. I've also had one of the single use bottles start leaking without any use, very thankful propane has a strong odorant added. Single use bottles are usually pretty safe, blowing up customers is bad for business, but they're also 100% an exercise in minimum acceptable viability, and what was considered acceptable was based on ONE use. The FK refillables really are on an entirely different level, built with the intent to be reused from the very beginning. Cylinder walls look like 12awg steel, they have a beefy machined brass connection and valves, and the refill vent built in. They're as tough as the 20lb BBQ tanks that are also meant to be reused, just smaller. Some of the comments Donald's gotten on this have made my eyes cross. After an honest examination of the single use bottles side by side with the refillable bottles, there's simply no legitimate discussion that the real refillable cylinders are the better choice.

@HSterlingCross

5 ай бұрын

The other issue with refilling the single use cans is, the valves aren't rated for multi-fill/use, and they'll randomly start leaking or won't seal properly after being refilled. I bought the cheap adapter and refilled a couple of my bottles years back and I think 2 out of ten or so bottles I refilled were leaking after removing them, but I was able to reseat the valve with an ice pick to get them to stop leaking. That was enough for me to say ehh, maybe this isn't the best idea. And that was back when a new 2-pack at Walmart was like $8, nowadays, at current prices, this setup totally makes sense.

About time, Donald! Those FK refillable bottles are great and the refill process is easy and fast. I have their "stand" but only used it once. A flat table top surface works just fine. Mr Heater has recently come out with their bottles that don't require that Allen wrench. Their tool is integrated.

Mr. Heater also makes a refill kit and refillable bottles, which they call Fuel Kegs. I like that theirs doesn't require a tool to open the purge valve on the bottle.

@williamfuller2389

5 ай бұрын

Sorry, didn't catch your comment before posting mine.

@DanitaReynolds

5 ай бұрын

I went to their website and I didn’t see the kit or bottles. I’m wondering if they are only available in Canada. I’m in Oregon, USA.

@maximusmock

5 ай бұрын

I bought one at Menards. Really like the tool less design. Although i prefer my Ignik 5lb tank.

@williamfuller2389

5 ай бұрын

@@DanitaReynolds They were supposed to launch their Fuel Keg last month but I only see them for sale at Menards, which I've never heard of down here in So Cal, and Tractor Supply. They've been out in limited numbers now for a couple of months.

@slowverlander

5 ай бұрын

Yes, I ordered mine from Menard's. I've heard of the name, but never seen a brick and mortar store in the PNW. @@williamfuller2389

Be sure to weigh the bottle empty on a kitchen scale and again when full. Never add more than 15 - 16 ounces of propane to the bottle when refilling, as you need to leave some room for expansion. Generally, the bottles will weigh about 32 ounces when full. Your particular bottle may vary. And I can certify that he did, indeed, stay warm on his weekend trip after this. It was good to see you again, Donald!

Forgot to mention aligning the notch on the bottle with the refill device and you should wear gloves. It may work differently with that after market device regarding the alignment notch. That simply prevents users from refilling those disposable bottles from using their refill system

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

Yeah the one I bought has no notch thing so there's nothing to align. And absolutely, I should have been wearing gloves! Thanks William! 🙂

@williamfuller2389

5 ай бұрын

@@softroadingthewest Have you located the Mr Heater Fuel Keg to compare the two? I like the "no-Allen Wrench" system they have.

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

@@williamfuller2389 No, but I'm not really interested in a deeper dive than this. I've got these now and they work so I don't want to buy more.😄 I believe there are already some videos comparing the Flame King and Mr Heater options floating around on KZread. Not needing an allen wrench seems like a smart evolution of the design!

The bottle toss over the shoulder made me laugh, haha. Always entertaining, even when it's not an adventure video! Keep 'em comin'.

Been using F-K refillables for years, they're great! No clue how many disposable cylinders they've saved me. Completely changed how I use portable propane appliances. I have the full kit, you're not missing a thing with the funky stand, your tailgate setup is much more practical. A couple points on safety. It's not air coming out of the vent valve, it's gaseous propane, and of course flammable. I was also glad to see you put on glasses and stand up, getting your face away from all the propane connections and the vent valve. Liquid propane under ambient pressure rapidly cools itself to -40 or so, a squirt of that from a slightly loose connection or the vent valve will be bad news if it gets in your eyes.

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

So when I got these new, they were clearly under positive pressure as air immediately started flowing out of them as soon as I opened the vent valve, even before I started filling...I just assumed they wouldn't ship these with propane in them. And when I'm refilling, the air/gas coming out doesn't _seem_ to smell of propane (as opposed to, say, when I turn on my stove without lighting it...noticeable propane odor). Thus my assumption I was dealing with air and not propane gas. But it does make sense that it would be propane gas coming out, just as if the canister were attached to a stove. In any case...definitely should not be performed near an open flame LOL. And I definitely should have had gloves on when I did this. 🤦‍♂ Thanks!

@om617yota8

5 ай бұрын

@@softroadingthewest No worries at all, sir. That first fill when new, yes that'll be some small amount of air. After that, definitely propane vapor.

I own the flame king set with the stand, and about 5 of the bottles (I ordered 4, the shipper messed up). I have yet to use them as I am trying to run my disposables out first, but looking forward to it. My van has a gasoline heater (Velit) so I don't need propane for that, but for cooking and heating hot water, I still need propane. Very glad Flame King makes these things as the disposables are getting stupid expensive and I hate generating the waste they do.

Thank you, Donald! I got a refiller spout at the overland expo and have been hesitant to use it on the disposable green bottles. Thank you so much!!

How have I never seen these before? Ordered and thank you for making this video!

Started using this last summer. It's fantastic!

This is a game changer! We are getting a buddy heater soon, and I did not want to constantly hunt for those green bottles, as its literally the only thing we have that will use them. Something like this will make it infinitely easier on the trips where we take the heater!

The trashing of the bottles is what has always concerned me the most. Thanks for this video, we think alike.

I did refill the standard bottles until I found the Flame Kings, I have 4 of them now. Great advise.

Outstanding ! Thank you for this information !!!

Great video. I'm putting this kit on my Amazon wish list.

One added advantage I see is you can fill these little bottles on the road if you were on an extended trip. Thanks for sharing!

Been slowly moving away from propane. Would love to ditch it entirely. Not all induction tops are the same and it is possible to cook with 100 ah of lithium and a 1000 watt inverter. We still carry our Partner Stove and 5lb tank, but have to refill less often. Which is becoming more of a hassle on the road. So many gas stations don’t have enough employees to cover the register and run the dispenser.

this vid actually helped a lot. I didn't know the colman ones were not refillable and also pretty much need to put it in the freezer or it will not refill. ordering a kit thanks

Thank you! So helpful!

Awesome, thanks for this. Just ordered them. I hate those disposable ones👌👍

Thank you, thank you!! I refill my own and Jason always tells me horror stories about filling them. This will be a no Brainerd and I love the small canisters for a short trip.

Thanks for the insight

Glad they are making refillable bottles. That is a better solution than refilling disposables. I like that they have the screw on thread protectors. Yes more expensive to start out, but in the long run more economical and safer. I personally don't like propane (water and low temp cold start issues). I love my Colman's, they can burn pump gas in a pinch and you can always pressurize the tank to the ambient air conditions. Thanks for the info! George.

Great idea!

cool man! i felt the same way. you've changed my thinking about that!

Thanks Donald.

I have always seen those as a terrific idea.

Great info.

I just picked up two and the filling adaptor. 🙌

I know someone who needs this and it’s me.

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

Haha...I can't believe I dragged my feet on this for so long. 🤦‍♂

Brilliant thanks for sharing

Great find...........I to HATE throwing away the empty cans.

As odd as it sounds my grass trimmer runs on the disposable propane bottles. Id look into getting this for that purpose as it’s the only use I have for those bottles. But one bottle lasts me approximately 4 years of trimming my small lawn. And since I got a 4 pack of bottles 8 years ago and still have 8 years of propane left I guess I have some time.

Be careful because it's super easy to overfill those because the little bottles don't have a bleeder valve... when there's temperature changes the are likely to spit out the extra gas when overfilled.

@rossipremier

5 ай бұрын

The flame king bottles do have a bleeder, you leave it open during filling and as soon as gas comes out of it you stop filling. That's how I've always refilled my flame king bottles, it uses a tiny Allen key.

@CraigG21

5 ай бұрын

Perhaps this original comment was talking about the single use bottles?

Nice vid and i agree on why the heck not do it sooner! i just refilled 14 flame king bottles and im so pleased with myself .. You still need to wear some leather gloves when u refil. i just got some cheep leather ones for under 8 aussie bucks from the hardware shop. Also to upgrade even more have you looked into the larger composite gas bottles made with carbon and fibreglass.. they are sooooo light and you can see thru them how much gas u have inside!

I have been using these 1 lb refillable bottles for several years now. I normally carry 4 of them for cooking and my Coleman lantern. As people mention, so much easier than carrying the disposables and dealing with partially filled bottles. The 1 lb refillables just take up so much less room than a larger 7/10 lb bottle. Actually one of my friends found these. We were on a trip and his 7 lb tank valve failed. Frozen? He would crack it open but no propane. Having all of your eggs in one basket on a long trip..

thank you for this info. I'm like you I didnt want to refill the disposablebottles as they are made for one time use and I don't want to take the chance on them. you just dont know when they will fail. I remember the Caldecott Tunnel fire in April of 82.from a propaine truck getting in a wreck. A gaint blow torch, now a one LB bottle wont do that but you could loose you truck. to me not worth it and now I know that I can get one made to refill. thanks

dont lose that allen wrench!

@williamfuller2389

5 ай бұрын

Big improvement Mr Heater made with their bottles.

I've filled the throw away ones, but that is a much safer option. 🔥

Thanks!

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

So glad to see these available now. I wonder how many of those single use Colmans are in land fills. Thanks for sharing.

@user-qe5hx3br3w

2 ай бұрын

Well they sell over 40 million a year so a big percentage go to landfill.

I’ve found that by chilling the refill bottle prior to filling, I get more liquid propane before it starts boiling off. I just put them in the freezer for an hour or so before filling.

@williamfuller2389

5 ай бұрын

Sounds like you're circumventing their Over Fill safety features built into the bottle. Propane pressure is greatly effected by ambient temperature swings. They built those safety features for a reason.

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

I know freezing is a technique people talk about when refilling disposables, but Flame King specifically states that under no circumstances should you pre-freeze their cylinders. They have engineered these to be filled to a safe, ideal volume. Squeezing in a couple more ounces is risky and honestly kinda pointless given how fast & easy it is to simply refill these when they're empty.

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I struggled with spending the money on this setup myself. The selling point, for me, was/is the the fact that these can be legally transported, whereas the normal bottles can not. I don't regret my decision.

I've been refelling my green coleman tanks for about 9 years, no problem with the harbor freight adapter

@williamfuller2389

5 ай бұрын

Not likely someone who experienced safety issues that refills those single-use bottles would, or could post their mishaps. They're simply not engineered and built to safely refill repeatedly like the FK and now Mr Heater bottles are. Thicker casing, better valve systems are just some of the upgrades that make those refillable bottles safer.

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

I'm glad it has worked out with no mishaps for you. Clearly lots of people do this and most get by just fine. But there are nonetheless many documented cases of fires and explosions determined to be caused by a refilled disposable, including fatalities. It has also been very well established by those who advocate refilling the disposables that you should only refill them a handful of times before eventually throwing them away. Which means eventually you still have to buy more overpriced disposables to refill in the future...are you sure you're actually saving money? I mean, it doesn't matter to me what you do, I have no affiliation and nothing to gain. And looking at the odds, you'll probably continue to be just fine. But personally, for the minuscule investment, I prefer not to risk the lives of my kids or take a chance with burning down my rig.

One other thing that I would like to see, is them coming up with the M, SR or jet boil dual containers to be refillable

Looks better than the 1st "refillable" life hacks

The small canisters can be recycled.

Just FYI -- if you're still challenged with where to mount your traction boards -- I just heard about "Go-treads" fold - up traction boards. Two of them fold up into a cube like package with their own carrying bag. Might be easier to store and contain. Also can be used as levelling blocks when folded or partially folded up. Cheers!...from North Vancouver

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

I know those are a better-than-nothing option for some and MUCH easier to transport, but I've used them in an actual recovery side-by-side with the Maxtrax and they just weren't anywhere near as effective. Maxtrax also work in other ways that foldable solutions cannot, such as bridging ruts or ramping up otherwise unclimbable rock steps. I would rebuild my entire rear swingout before abandoning my Maxtrax. 😆 Fortunately, following that video, a promising solution has emerged, which hopefully I'll be able to share in the next month or so. 🙂

I bought a system like this recently made by fuel keg. they are a little different but same idea. Biggest difference i see the fuel keg has a tab you twist to open it rather than an allen key.

@softroadingthewest

3 ай бұрын

Yeah that is a nice touch for sure.

My town has a hazardous waste recycling center that gives away propane canisters that have some gas left. I've picked up a few years supply of 1/3-1/2 full canisters for free. Some campgrounds have recycling bins for them, and I've scavenged a few almost full cylinders from those as well.

Ignik small tank with the adapter is the way to go

I bought 4 of them last summer. Very handy for my propane lantern. For a while, they were hard to find. I'm guessing Flame King had a supply chain issue. The refillable bottles work fantastic but why not use a 20lb - 1lb converter for this application? Another alternative is buying a 5lb bottle. Either way, congratulations on your discovery.

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

That is a viable solution for some, but personally I don't have room in my very small camper space for even a 5-lb bottle & hose in addition to the heater itself. And while I do carry a 5lb bottle on my truck, I use it for cooking and prefer to just leave it connected to my stove while at camp instead of swapping it around between devices. There are also many people who camp casually in their cars who don't have a way to properly transport a larger bottle outdoors where it's supposed to be, but who do have a 20-lb tank at home connected to their backyard grill they could use to refill these 1-pounders that will likely work with their stove, etc. Part of the reason I bought these was to simply make more people aware they could get away from the disposable canisters. 🙂

For some reason I thought you already used these. I know here the pre filled 20 lb tanks are convenient. Most grocery stores and gas stations have them. But it's about half as much to refill the tank directly.

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

I own my 20-lb tank (it's not a consignment/exchange thing) and it's easy enough to get it (or the 5-lb tank that rides on my truck) refilled at my local propane shop. They're good guys and I like supporting this local business. Half the time they don't even charge me for filling the 5-pounder because ringing up the sale is more hassle than it's worth. 😆 And I'm just dumb for having dragged my feet so long on these refillable 1-lb cylinders. 🤦‍♂

Gloves......and a screwdriver style allen wrench for the bleeder. That propane will freeze skin......

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

Yep, my bad, I should have had gloves on for this! 🤦‍♂

Just buy a 20 pound adapter for your heater it's a lot easier

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

That is a viable solution for some, but personally I don't have room in my very small camper space for larger bottle & hose in addition to the heater itself. And while I do carry a 5lb bottle on my truck, I use it for cooking and prefer to just leave it connected to my stove while at camp instead of swapping it around between devices. There are also many people who camp casually in their cars who don't have a way to properly transport a larger bottle outdoors where it's supposed to be, but who do have a 20-lb tank at home connected to their backyard grill. Part of the reason I bought these was to simply make more people aware they could get away from the disposable canisters. 🙂

I've been refilling disposables for a while now...The official Flame King video makes mention of the notch in both the bottle stem and refill valve that need to be lined up. What's the deal with that? I saw you mentioned you purchased an off brand nozzle...just curious if you know what the deal is with the notches.

Why use the small tanks at all? just use an adapter so you can connect to a larger bottle. I have a 5lb bottle that was spendy but very handy.

@williamfuller2389

5 ай бұрын

Just try using a bulk tank with an adapter hose to a lantern or some other appliance you want to move around. I've used my FK refillable for years for those applications, bulk tanks with the less mobile appliances.

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

That is a viable solution for some, but personally I don't have room in my very small camper space for larger bottle & hose in addition to the heater itself. And while I do carry a 5lb bottle on my truck, I use it for cooking and prefer to just leave it connected to my stove while at camp instead of swapping it around between devices. There are also many people who camp casually in their cars who don't have a way to properly transport a larger bottle outside where it's supposed to be, but who do have a 20-lb tank at home connected to their backyard grill. Part of the reason I bought these was to simply make more people aware they could get away from the disposable canisters. 🙂

Do you get any condensation with the buddy heater inside of the camper?

@softroadingthewest

3 ай бұрын

Oh yes, that for me is the biggest downside to the buddy heater. It's not too too bad when I'm camped on the desert side of the state...I'll get some condensation but not really a problematic amount, but cold nights in western Oregon where the humidity is already high, yeah, every exposed aluminum surface can become quite wet. I don't run the heater overnight, just while I'm getting ready for bed in the evening and getting dressed in the morning, but on cold wet nights, it's easy to see how much more quickly condensation starts to appear when the heater is running.

A smaller propane tank is a much better solution in my opinion. Then wehen you go to get one of those refilled, you get 100% refill (actually only 80% by law) but still, the max you can get. Not to mention much safer.

Donald, There is no Air involved; the propane is liquid under pressure and a gas when not under pressure, or filling the space above the liquid in the bottle.. The bottles, regardless of size will contain liquid with gas above it. You have to invert your supply so the liquid will flow down hill to what you are filling, which has gas (not air), the gas has to be vented to allow the liquid to fill the bottle, disposable or refillable. I refilled the disposable ones for years, but only refill them 3-4 times before replacing. The disposable has 2 Schrader valves, the one in the center of the main connection is just like the ones on your tires, it keeps the contents from escaping. The 2nd valve is to the side of the main one and is opposite to the main one; it allow the contents to escape if overpressured. You have to push the center valve to manual release, but you have to pull on the side valve to manually release. The side valve on the disposable bottle is lower than the main valve, this is to create "head room" for the gas to exist. Fill till the vent vents liquid and you're full.

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

Gotcha. When I got these new, they were under positive pressure - air immediately started flowing out of them as soon as I opened the vent valve, even before I started filling...I just assumed they wouldn't ship these with propane in them, but maybe they do? And when I'm refilling, the air/gas coming out doesn't seem to smell of propane (as opposed to, say, when I turn on my stove without lighting it...noticeable propane odor). Thus my assumption I was dealing with air and not propane gas. But it does make perfect sense that it would be propane gas coming out, just as if the canister were attached to a stove. In any case...definitely should not be performed near an open flame LOL. And I definitely should have had gloves on when I did this. 🤦‍♂ Thanks!

@stevesag

5 ай бұрын

@@softroadingthewest Yes, the first time usage will have air from manufacturing; my bad for not picking that up. In that case the theoretical best practice is to purge the tank, which is essentially putting a little bit of propane in then venting everything to get the air out, In practice that is rarely done. The point I was trying to make is that the gas is what we burn, not the liquid; and the gas in the tank, other than first use, is propane gas, not air.

Those one-time use green bottles are expensive and a waste of resources. (They also should be illegal.)

@OriginalClam

5 ай бұрын

word

Can you use this at a station?

@softroadingthewest

3 ай бұрын

You mean like at a gas station where they refill propane tanks? It would be the wrong fitting...the filler nozzle at the station would be a "female" fitting that threads onto the "male" 20-lb tanks, and the adapter in this video also screws onto that same "male" spout of the 20-lb tank. So you wouldn't be able to connect this adapter to the filler nozzle at the gas station and fill 1-lb tanks.

@cv6473

3 ай бұрын

@@softroadingthewest yeah that's what a I meant. Dang it. Is there an adapter?

@softroadingthewest

3 ай бұрын

I don't know if that exists, but honestly I doubt you would get a gas station attendant to refill 1-lb tanks anyway. :-)

Mr Heater Fuel Keg is way better than the Flame King brand. Has tooless leader valve. Flame king requires a tool.

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

Their built-in valve knob is definitely a nice touch for sure, though ultimately the "tool" the Flame King requires is just an allen wrench which I already have multiple duplicates of in both my in-truck tool kit and in my garage...it's not THAT hard to keep track of, and also extremely easy to replace if one somehow lost all their allen wrenches of that size. :-) Aside from the valve knob, what else makes them way better? I mean, I have no brand loyalty or anything...I'm genuinely curious. I had read of some stock/supply issues with the Fuel Keg; also my understanding was that Fuel Keg was a relatively new product whereas the Flame King has a pretty well established track record. But I honestly didn't give it a whole lot of thought...Flame King was available on Amazon (Fuel Keg isn't) so I just pulled the trigger on those, and they work fine. What else am I missing out on? Personally I don't think it matters _that_ much which brand someone chooses, both are a better choice than purchasing or refilling disposable cylinders. :-)

I've seen something similar on a channel out of Australia. What needs to be asked is why no one came up with this sooner

Or you could go all electric?

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

I've experimented with electric, but any heater capable of making a dent in the true cold of winter camping generally runs at 1,000+ watts and chews through battery storage much faster than I can keep my power stations charged during a trip. And I'm fortunate to have two hefty Jackery units riding with me, a 1000 and a 1500, which is a lot more storage than the average budget camper would invest in. A Mr Heater Buddy and some refillable canisters makes for an affordable and effective approach to adding a little comfort to winter camping. 🙂

1 lb propane tanks for 3 or $4 last year what the heck happened

The disposable Coleman 1 lb bottles are refillable hoss👈

@OriginalClam

5 ай бұрын

did you not make it 1 minute into the video there hoss?

@williamfuller2389

5 ай бұрын

Not likely someone who experienced safety issues that refills those single-use bottles would, or could post their mishaps. They're simply not engineered and built to safely refill repeatedly like the FK and now Mr Heater bottles are. Thicker casing, better valve systems are just some of the upgrades that make those refillable bottles safer.

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

Yes hoss it is possible to refill the disposable canisters...I acknowledged that in the video But as I mentioned in the video (which I'm thinking perhaps you didn't actually watch before commenting?) it can be dangerous to do so - there are many documented cases of fires and explosions determined to be caused by a refilled disposable, including fatalities. And while there is no law against refilling the disposables, it IS against federal law to transport a refilled disposable propane cylinder. If you're putting refilled disposables in your truck and driving to your campsite, you're committing a federal offense punishable by hefty fines and even jail time. It has also been very well established by those who advocate refilling the disposables that you should only refill them a handful of times before eventually throwing them away. Which means eventually you still have to buy more overpriced disposables to refill in the future...are you *sure* you're actually saving money? I mean, you do what you want, hoss. Makes NO difference to me. Keep buying and refilling disposables. You'll _probably_ be just fine. Personally, for the minuscule investment, I prefer not to risk the lives of my kids or take a chance with burning down my rig.

@williamfuller2389

5 ай бұрын

@@softroadingthewest Amen, Donald. Not interested in playing Propane Roulette myself.

Please consider wearing gloves when you could be exposed to liquid propane. I don't bother when using the tank right side up on my BBQ, but that's propane GAS. Upside down, you are now dealing with propane LIQUID which is a whole different beast. If you have your hand in front of that vent jet when it starts spraying liquid, the result can be an instant and severe frostbite. Similarly, please only have the 20 lb tank upside down while filling your reusable bottles, do not store the 20 lb tank upside down between uses; if the tank ever warms up to the point it needs to spew out the emergency vent, that vent is now on the bottom, pushing out liquid instead of gas.

@softroadingthewest

5 ай бұрын

Agreed, I should have had gloves on, my bad. My 20-lb bottle normally lives on my backyard gas grill, it doesn't stay upside-down, but yeah that's a great point about the emergency pressure relief. Thanks! 🙂