Kia dropping better designs than bmw, audi and mercedes… what a time to be alive

@ye7576.

2 ай бұрын

Prob cause they hired some of their designers but ye, most definitely better than the newer bmws

@ishmamnaveel2198

2 ай бұрын

Yeahh... I doubt that lol

@DodgerFloof

2 ай бұрын

@@ishmamnaveel2198 I mean... you can just look at it lol

@edrape7283

2 ай бұрын

its not better than audi's sedan tho

@user-jf8gd3lv7q

2 ай бұрын

@@ye7576. No, they arent't any better at all. You can cool down, dudes...You are talking bullshit! BMW design is just "different". You should have a certain taste and age to realize this. If BMW want to bring a real new design, they still deliver. Unlike these rip off clowns from Asia. Hyundai and Kia are quite annoying German car design rip off clowns. This is very obvious with every design the are bringing out these days. These Asians are just stealing designs from Porsche, from Audi, from BMW, from Mercedes-Benz. That's all about their design "language".

Kia & Hyundai definitely have a a fully developed design language. Now they are getting to the making operatic masterpieces era.

@Peanutdenver

2 ай бұрын

KIA hired away some top designers(two that I personally know of)from BMW and Mercedes several years ago. They were given free rein(relatively speaking)for redesign on many of their models. For at least the last 2-3 years KIA has been making some really good looking cars, now they just need to work on reliability issues.

@noblegeorge8030

2 ай бұрын

​@@Peanutdenver: Reliability is also sorted is what I believe!

@freshtowels3917

Ай бұрын

They've beenalong good looking cars since the 2011 optima came out. ​@@Peanutdenver

Wow! This is bad ass!! Japanese rivals need to take notes. Economy cars dont have to look boring!

@MrUser999999

2 ай бұрын

Imo most economy cars have had a glow up compared to their last 2 generations. Were living in a great time for design, cant say the same for reliability.

@racineurr.8924

2 ай бұрын

@@MrUser999999 Not convinced this K4 is an economy car. With the Rio gone, the Forte was the only affordable Kia. Seems this K4 is going upscale.

@MrUser999999

2 ай бұрын

@racineurr.8924 it will likely be priced similar to the civic, and elantra. Doubt it will be as expensive as a mazda, mainly for the reliability status kia has. As for economy car, I usually think mainstream or non premium brand(ie lexus, bmw, audi, etc) mid size sedans or smaller or compact suvs. Vehicles pushing for near 40mpg or better.

@AndrewTSq

2 ай бұрын

Lots of cool cars never leave Japan for some reason, they have lots of nice cars.

@AndrewTSq

2 ай бұрын

@@racineurr.8924 Yeah K4 probably starts at $40k here. Rio was $20k

Cyberpunk-esque design. The rear fender almost gives off the illusion of like a rear wheel cover, at least from the side view with that shadow. Cool car!

The sketches look fantastic, but I don’t like how they solved the C-D pillars on the street version. However I love the hatchback, the vertical cut on the pillar looks more harmonic and integrated on the overall design.

On the streets recently, I have seen so many cars that made my head turn, and they were all new KIAs!!!! Well done!

They need to start bringing this cars to Europe...enough with the SUV's !!!

@injin5557

2 ай бұрын

They won't sell

@brickhead_07

2 ай бұрын

@@injin5557They will. Skoda Superb and VW Passat sell very well! Hatchbacks like the Golf are best sellers in Europe. They should do a K4 wagon too.

@UltraJaff

2 ай бұрын

The hatchback is coming to europe

@mitchellbarnow1709

2 ай бұрын

I wish that the USA would give up our obsession with SUV’s and pickup trucks, but that won’t happen.

@carlosandleon

2 ай бұрын

@@brickhead_07not as sedans lol

Love what Kia is doing here, though the roofline really begs to be a lift back. I’m also really into the hatchback/wagon version.

There's a lot of Stinger on this design.

@etatauri

2 ай бұрын

I see it. Its like a Stinger and EV9 had a baby.

@killerbee792

Ай бұрын

This definitely a baby K5 lol Stinger the grandpa since it shares some similarities

I switched from Ford in 2019 to Hyundai and am so pleased with my car after 77k trouble free miles.

No mention of the veloster style door handles for the rear doors? I found it to be an interesting decision for a sedan

This looks epic and I suspect they will do a full GT version later on that’s more horsepower. I kinda wish they did more with a hybrid standard, but maybe later on. When the hatchback comes into market I honesty don’t care how much money I have I desperately want it 😂

The hatchback version is truly awesome.👍🏾👏🏾👊🏾

Overall it’s cool, but that back pillar loses me.

the screen for HVAC is secondary there are buttons just below hazard for temp, mode and fan speed. but the design is nice

With your Florida accent I couldn’t figure out what a Forta was. Then I realized it was a KIA ForTAY. Great video as always. I’m always impressed at how quickly you get them out.

@j_k_rz

2 ай бұрын

Right!! So true.. I was trying to figure out which model was he talking about that was below the K5 😂😂😂

@davids1816

2 ай бұрын

@@j_k_rz I thought he was Swedish for some reason.

@DodgerFloof

2 ай бұрын

@@davids1816 he is swedish

@davids1816

2 ай бұрын

@@DodgerFloof so that comment about his accent is a bit inaccurate. I really enjoy him because I absolutely disagree with the majority of his opinions about styling. So he challenges my ideas a lot. There are some very cool styling critiques online these days - it's a good time to love cars.

@j_k_rz

2 ай бұрын

@@DodgerFloof ohhh.. really? I had no idea

Front looks very familiar with current Forte.

Looking good! The design in general reminds me of a Polestar car.

Waiting for your thoughts on the Genesis Neolun Concept (GV90 Concept)

I’m not a huge fan of manufacturers adding in the black fender trim pieces, I’ve seen it becoming more popular with more companies. I think with it makes the car look bigger than it actually is. Reminds me of a mix between a Crossover and a sedan which doesn’t make any sense to me. I think if the pieces weren’t there or the trim was the same color, it would make the car and wheels fit the styling imo.

what were the aftermarket wheels you put on the K4?

@ebe2023

2 ай бұрын

Looks like something off the new EV chargers

@wr8thbeatz322

2 ай бұрын

@@ebe2023 it does!

Such a great review...agree, Kia / Hyundai / Genesis are some standouts among all automakers with respect to design and technology..

How is adding straight vertical lines a good thing?

@HeortirtheWoodwarden

Ай бұрын

It looks badass and futuristic.

you should fo a redesign of the old forte

roofline reminds me a lot of the Stinger

I can feel the energy of kia designer flow into this car. They really having fun with this car. Amazing

Looks really good, although the fitment and wheel area leave a bit to be desired for me. The black plastic cladding has a similar effect as on the WRX, and ends up making the wheels look more diminutive and with more wheel gap than without cladding. Still a great design overall, though.

Oddly, this may be the first time I disagree on a design. I don’t like it. Kia should keep the complete tiger nose. The one exterior design on the hood creases sweeping to the side mirrors is nice 5:15 . I do agree on the wheels can transform a car. Keep up the great content ❤

Crushing their designs :D Great design - crush it :D

You’d think redesigning the engine would have been the priority considering its history. Nice design

Maybe the hatch will come with a manual transmission option similar to Honda's hatch Civic?

One thing I've noticed about these new Hyundais and Kias is that they always seemed to have moved the placements of their rear licence plates from the trunklids down to the bumper.

I'd love to see this design as the EV4, especially that wagon

Had it been a liftback(to compete for versatility with small suvs) and have the option for a 2.0 turbo(or higher) and or a hybrid option it would be the best commuter car for the masses.

There are some small questionable oddities in the details to my eye, but overall I think it looks sharp. I have a feeling there's going to be a huge jump in price between the outgoing Forte (pronounced For-tay) and the new K4. Kia seems to be pushing this car to be larger and more upscale. Manufacturers in general seem to be discontinuing their most affordable models and pushing existing models upmarket with higher prices.

Love this. Keep the good work🤙🏾

Putting the right wheels on a vehicle changes, they look and the stance and also the appearance of a vehicle so much you are so right. 😊New wheels are like if you got raggedy to teeth, you have a beautiful face and then when you smiling your raggedy teeth it kills the whole vibe, but when you got a nice face, and then when you smile, and you have these beautiful teeth is the same thing is like enhances your look.

The side profile is very Alfetta GT

Why is “FortUH” attacking my brain. I’m so excited for the hatch. Agree about the power train. If if had a hybrid and something tuned to about 210-225 hp.

I do love the fact that my forte gt has a guage cluster housing but one thing that drives me nuts is that the steering wheel is slightly off center to the right. If you drive a forte pay attention it will probably make you mad too 😂

this new coupé- suv is a new orientation to attract the customers! it s pretty original concept made by many brands as peugeot,renault,lucid air.......etc. a cool design there is no boubt even better then the BMW! new suv. i m sur about that. but the question: my question remain the same ; putting prototypes into production isn t a risky STRATEGY?

Like the first 3/4 of car but not the rear. The rear looks better on the wagon

No exposed exhaust on the turbo😢

Makes my ‘23 Accord Sport Hybrid look like a plebeian car. Toyota and Honda needs to step up big time and refrain from using bland and cheap design, starting off with Honda’s dollar-store style cheap, flimsy plastics inside and out on their entire new lineup.

I’m glad I got the 2023 Forte Gt. This one looks cool but it loses the very quick shifting DCT, the 201 hp engine and the great sounding dual exhaust on the back.

I wondered about the 2.0L as I like "naturally aspired" but they did say the iVT was tweaked, so I have high hopes it will be okay still. The 8 speed modern but traditional transmission is due to disinformation that is so reality taken on the dual clutch by competitors. So the dual clutch the wrench in this market has always been that you have to realize how MANUAL transmissions work as that is that a dual clutch is - the computer (pretty sure it is NOT the HAL9000) does a far better job of it then a human can (it is because too humans are FAR less fuel efficient shifters). In short (too late) the dual clutch is almost always better and more enjoyable in the hands of someone who understands it - but a big dis-pleaser in the hands of the those who think it is an "smooth and refined automatic".

Something like Volkswagen ID3 and ID4 is how i feared the future would look. This is how i hoped the future would look. 👌

More hatchbacks, please! Sure when we have more photos and info, you'll share more thoughts on it. Looking forward to it!

I want one right now😭❤️

Absolutely stunning design all around.. BUT, the abrupt stop of the side of the greenhouse threw me off ngl, just seems odd since the rest of the design has, despite the strong angles and lines, a really nice flow to it. Again, absolutely stunning, just that one thing threw me off, would have changed it a bit.

Very similar language to Polestar! What I have seen KIA-HYUNDAI doing is normalizing the designs from upper segment cars and eliminating that edge to enter direct competition. That said, both companies are very brave and innovative and likes of VW and Ford will be crushed by them in future.

intriguing

Korean brands becoming better than Germans.

Now I want to see the EV 4

Front lighting signature is very Cadillac

Certain views give me 1967 Charger vibes. Squint you’ll see it 😉 Side note, you should start a wheel recommendation business / part of the channel. Get people to send pics of their cars and give 2-3 options of what would look good ;) cheers

I really wonder how this car looks with the roof fully blacked out

nice kia~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ love it

Don’t like the piano black wheel arches. They make the wheel gap look bigger, also the one door opener on front doors looks out of place. They should of concealed like the rear door. Overall looks nice.

The rear windshield ruins the whole look for me.

Can't wait to see what they do with the K5 redesign. Ik they updated it but it's still the same car

"Forte"...for-tay

Have you seen the k3 from the mexican market? Tell us what do you think

12:20 💯 on this. Why create a screen where the driver can't even see it nor use it? I don't like this trend at all. It was on the EV9 and that was one reason why I didn't get it. They have space down there so why not just put the climate controls there so that the passenger could use it easily? I just don't get it and will not get a Kia with that screen. I recently picked up the EV6 GT and even that dual screen climate control setup takes time to get use to it. I would rather had them put separate controls on the bottom as again there is space there.

Very surprised by the overall positive feedback on the styling. The lonesome roundish door handle in the middle of the side profile, looks out of place. I really like the interior design, but I feel like the exterior design will be laughable in a couple years. Same vibes as the Elantra.

Kia Boyz salivating

I've never been a fan of concealed rear door handles. It breaks up the symmetry and looks like something is missing and not finished. The expanse of sheet metal and the obvious shape and shut lines of the door makes it look odd. The front and rear don't blend or match and is just not cohesive. IMO.

To me, it almost looks like a mini Cadillac, in its design.

I would describe it as a mini Stinger with Telluride accents. This with the 2.5 turbo and AWD would be about as fun as an ICE car gets.

@racineurr.8924

2 ай бұрын

So it doesn't have a style of its own. You buy this K4 to have a reminder ofr stinger and Telluride. Nice.

@davids1816

2 ай бұрын

@@racineurr.8924 I guess... cars like this have a pretty limited use case. They are slow and a bit sloppy because of the price point. They are kinda cramped for more than a single person or newlyweds. Something like a Chevy Trax is much more practical since it is station wagon shaped but not so bulky that it handles far worse. So I have trouble to find a thing about it that's easy to recommend. I guess the goal here is to look sleek, be cheap, and have big screens. I'm sure some people will buy it and be very happy. The hatch has a lot more to offer in exchange for the style.

Cadillac should copy it.

doesn’t taillights look like a scythe?

I think this needs to be a station wagon. it's just * almost there * for me.

god this is beautiful is this real, or a concept?

Might as well get the new Polestar bro

please come japanese car market, kia&hyundai !

I'd much rather the concept images

The back is lets say "inspired" by an Audi A7.

That’s so close to Audi A7 design.

The longer you see these 2 cars in the same frame, the better the old one starts looking.

I wish they would stop with the cvts

Polestar vibes

This might be the car I'm excited about in 2025. I love most things about the interior, but reaching around for the vent controls is a step backward.

side angle and tail lights very polestar

Looks a little like a simplified Polestar.

Car designers hate handles. You know who don’t hate them? Actual customers.

gt-line is not a gt. so its an upgrade. I wonder how much faster the gt will be. will probably look even better too.

0:05 "Crushing" Sorry, those proportions are awful.. The hidden door handle doesn't work at all. Also, the C pillar is a mess.

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The lever is so outdated. This doesnot look very modern, id sugest something like porsche or even MB (on sterring column).

Audi A7 in the back.

Oh Audi A7 looks nice. Front looks nice on the Kia, interiour looks bad, and the rear headlights destroys the rear, making it look as a Volvo EC30 or what they are called :/

I think it looks weird

Please sell it to South Korea, Kia... Especially the 5dr model...

I can't wait to steal this as well (this is a joke) but yeah Kias rep went to the shtter after people kept stealing them.

Another Kia reborn identity design 😂

It hurts everytime he say fort instead of forté lol

Let’s go KIA✨🤍

I honestly feel like Hyundai is over designing their vehicles now. Kia has always been more conservative. But this car feels moderately over designed. I still prefer the current Forte.

Will probably start out at $50,000😵‍💫

@SanthoshKumar-ye3sh

2 ай бұрын

It's falls under midsize sedan category,Elantra,Civic,Sentra,Jetta..

Looks over bodied and under wheel based.